They harm it regardless of their intentions

And how do they harm it?

By existing?

Welfare consumption, foreign and domestic aid, not working and supporting the market

But welfare and aid are because governments and cultures CHOOSE to pursue welfare and aid.

Those are leftist economic choices, not intrinsic to the poor.

@MinecraftMemer in attempt to lift them out of poorness so they can contribute to the economy

If we do nothing, they won't harm the economy.

They'll just remain poor.

It lowers the social health

So the issue isn't welfare?

Which is proven to reduce morale

Welfare is an issue because it doesn't sufficiently lift people out of poverty

Therefore it's a misallocation of money and resources

So then why have welfare in the first place?

It's a waste

@MinecraftMemer because it's good for re-election

So you're suggesting elections are the problems?

I prefer job fairs over welfare

Elections are a problem yes

Temporarily anyways

Democracy is dangerous to competent statecraft because it forces every political decision to be lowered to a level of stupidity that the masses can understand.

If welfare is intrinsic to democracies, then it would be logical to have a different style of government.

In that case, we would have monarchies.

I disagree

Monarchies are almost never concerned about their nation

I would say quite the opposite.

Nationalism is incompatible with monarchies

Nationalism did not exist during the age of monarchs

This is history

Monarchies are probably the MOST concerned for the long term welfare of citizens.

You need a strong, but empathetic, temporary dictatorship

Why not a permanent monarch?

Or an oligarchy of 3-4

Have you ever read Hans-Hermann Hoppe?

Because monarchies are prone to hereditary corruption

My ideal monarchy would be a non hereditary internally elected one

Hereditary rule is precisely why monarchies is so effective and efficient.

With heavy requirements

Hereditary rule is disgusting

What do you think would happen in America with a parliament

It encourages monarchs (unlike democrats, who only worry about elections) to invest in the future of the country.

@WEBENGi we have a parliament dipshit

It's called Congress

They're not that different

Just different titles

And the upper chamber is elected as well

Hereditary rule is the only insurance that rulers will care about the future.

There are distinct differences.

@MinecraftMemer it's also prone to low IQ leaders

And inbreeding

@WEBENGi not so major they are unrecognizable ftomt each other

And in that case, they would have their nation (i.e. property) lose value.

And we would be dominated by smart, competent leaders.

Monarchies are just a no go for me anymore

I used to be a monarchist

Owned /mg/ Monarchist General

But the idea behind them, that nations are private property for an single individual, is much better than democracies.

Dictatorship is superior

Dictators are not concerned about the nation after they die like hereditary monarchs are.

Most are

They want the next dictator to keep the nation alive

Is there a solid incentive like hereditary monarchies?

Look at N.Korea

North Korea is a de facto hereditary monarchy.

It's technically elected

The only reason it is weak is because of communist, rather than capitalist economic policies.

Historically, Monarchies have focused on foreign affairs over domestic affairs

This is fact

Is focusing on foreign affairs intrinsic to monarchy, or is that just a trend?

I'm confused.

It's tied to Monarchies

Historically

And why is that?

Because for a monarchy to expand it's power, which is always, and I mean *always* it's primary goal, it needs to meddle in foreign affairs, be it by invasion or marrying they next royals daughter.

Look at the Habsburgs

The only way to stop a monarchy from doing this

Why can't they expand their powers like, say, the Finnish or Danish did, through industrialization and modernization?

Would be a consititunal monarchy

Also, why is this intrinsic to monarchies and not dictatorships?

Monarchies have in effect more power than dictatorshipsx at least mentally

Over the people

Why do monarchies have more power? It seems to me the only difference is the hereditary aspect of monarchy.

Right to rule

Divine right

Anyways I need to head to church for Thanksgiving, nice chat tho

So if the legitimacy of monarchy was divine rule, wouldn't that be a spiritual, rather than a political question of whether monarchies are the best system.

Bye

Have fun at church!

you expected me to debate on a subject I know jack shit about

yeah ok bud

hahahahahah

guys....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=aI3voZCASp0

look at this fucking autism

this is legit the best thing ever to me

this is NOT satire....

11 THOUSAND dislikes to less than 400 likes ahahahahahah

@Terrorist-Rex Why is it that asian women are either submissive af or revolutionary?

@Da_Fish I never thought much about it like that

I was mostly thinking how odd it is this Asian woman, westernized and brainwashed AF actually thinks she's the voice for asians in General (Not this particular video but some of her others)

She's the vast VAST minority of how the worlds average Asian woman thinks. Asians in the old world do not give two fucking shits about Oppressed Minorities, LBJQPBJ or whatever rights

hey

Thot

that has to be satire

or at least partially joking

my mind is not going to recognize it as anything else

No, it's legit

Third Generation Chinese woman from San Fran

San Fran can pump them out this crazy I'm telling you

@Da_Fish
That revolutionary shit is literally submissiveness......
To the cali/la system of 'thought crime'

attention all non-americans
Fuck you.
I challenege you to a football tournament.
If we win you have to call it soccer

@The Big Oof y no #religion?

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We already call it soccer.

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Shut up

Understood

Ok

we're about to remove all legal distinction between men and women in the US
Virginia just has to ratify the ERA to the constitution

rip america

fuckin liberals

lol wut

Oi then

More time for men to get days off.

@Bogatyr Bogumir There's an "equality amendment" that's been in the process of being ratified for like 50 years now

You need 39 states to approve it for it to pass

Virigina will be 38th I believe

Cheers everyone

What is this equality amendment sounds stupid

what amendment

make sex equal in the law, but then fucking delegalize feminists xD

This would be a good deal to me

Honestly. I have no idea what your amendment is about, I might want to read about it though

i mean im not for equal rights as the sexes are funduementally different. Women often themselves dont want equal rights but rather strong men

feminists basically try to constantly impose the ultamate machismo man in the form of guberment

literally, they say they hate male violence and all but use the most powerful form of violence to lock people up fro criticizing them, this is ltierally top patriarchy since the man would beat the shit out of anyone who speaks ill of his women

or woman

hi

hello there

Speak faggots

Modern Feminism is destroying the world.

Prove me wrong.

Well actually you're wrong

Lol

All feminism is and has destroyed the world

Including "1st wave" feminism

But especially the modern one.
Modern Feminism is just an even more retarded Feminist wave, which forces the women to leave and destroy their families, become lesbians, destroy capitalism and turn their husbands into slaves after murdering them.
If any of you find at least one of these cool, I'm just out.

I mean there is one way to stop feminism

by instituting actual patriarchy

No

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@Bogatyr Bogumir

Your word is my command

***perfection***

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arigato

Das ist da moste schones Frauen ich hab immer gesehen

(Yes i do speak some german)

(my vocab sucks ass tho

@Doctor Anon shut the fuck up

@el pebble shut the fuck up

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@The Big Oof shut the

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@The Big Oof fuck up

@el pebble the fuck you say infidel

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Did you just attempt to insult Daddy Anon?

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why? is that your fetish?

gay

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Booo

lets debate

Let me guess Taweed is unironically worshipping a pedo and a cabal of other fuck up people

Tawhid means monotheism

And David Wood was poor in that arguement

argument*

Trinity sound like not being monotheistic

Trinity isn't monotheism

aye

The [Christian] concept of the Trinity

Is not polytheistic

It's monotheistic

You don't understand the Trinity fully if you think it's polytheistic

@Deleted User @هيثم عبدالرحمن

@Doctor Anon @Deleted User do i need to instruct on trinity

@el pebble you think Trinity is polytheistic?

why ping me

no im the one who explained to you why it isnt polytheist

i wasnt in the conversation

@هيثم عبدالرحمن

Trinity is monotheistic

@el pebble nO?

it is tripersonal with a single indivisible essence

I learned that in another server

/pol/ Christian General

Not you

I don't remember this

Weird

Huh alrighty then

Teacher

what the fuck is this

Congregationalism is the only true christianity

Christianity was made in caves, so we will return

congregationalism is silly

@el pebble fabricated

@el pebble what "christianity" do you follow

Wait

i will not answer your question

He's a (((catholic)))

^

(((Catholicism)))

(((Francis)))

(((Israel is out greatest ally)))

This is the concept of the Trinity

what the fuck is that

There is no "one true form of christianity" each sect has it's faults and ultimatley it is faith, not doctrine, that saves.

father son and spirit

Doctrine is a large part of faith

connected to god?

hmMm

While I would agree most doctrinal things don't matter, God tells us how to follow him

(((Paganism)))

@Da_Fish Church Doctrine is important tho

I'm not Catholic