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If Mexico is not invaded, the crisis will continue until 2100
Install a puppet government to ensure stability
@ham addition over 100 politicians were murdered last Mexican election, most cities are ruled by drug gangs, the government is incompetent, the government said it will continue to allow people to go to the u.s border illegally
10% of Mexicans are in the US.
Mexican government is corrupt and controlled by drug cartels, and this explain the lack of response of the mexican government
They dont give a fuck about the migrant crisis
Its actually good for them
I want my mother fucking wall I'll gladly pay some shekels for it
consider: try helping them with foreign aid and cooperating with the government rather than just fucking invading
@ham addition foreign aid Dosen't work
Aid? Send money to them? Lol
They will use the money for corruption
It's either they take our tips and advise on how to to fix shit, which they refused, or invade them to install a stable government
The US army need to invade them to fix their country
because that worked so well with iraq and afghanistan didnโt it
Otherwise It will take 100 years to solve
Do what Israel did but with Mexicans imo
Pay mexicans in the U.S to leave (the legal ones)
@ham addition that wasn't a full scale invasion
Middle east is a different thing
That was a few troops and minimal funding
Weak as fuck """""invasion"""""
yeah youโre right, the middle east is different in that mexico is gigantic and the 11th most populated country on earth
And the Middle east is not a single country
And it's right next to us meaning supply lines aren't an issue
and what makes you think that the us government would do a better job as well
Mexico is too incompetent to collaborate
@ham addition better than what mexico is doing
Invasion would be ill-advised. Why do you want to build a wall because it's fiscally responsible and at the same time invade a country when the problem can be solved domestically?
inb4 muh neocon
do you think that the drug trade for example is just going to suddenly stop and cartels wonโt exist anymore just because america controls it now
US government is competent
At least more than the mexicans
@ฮตรฏะท irma ฮตรฏะท it's for in the case the Mexican government actively seeks to undermine U.S borders
America need to execute them
Martial law
[x] doubt
Like Pinochet did
@ham addition no, but it will if we publicly execute them
Publicly execute cartels in Mexico
Pinochet solved the drug problem in a few days
Pinochet ๐
im gonna leave now
America need to do the same in mexico
have a nice time getting off to your fantasies of invading mexico
AMERICA ! FUCK YEAH!!
You can't destroy the Savage cartels by acting by the rules of war
Come in the field to save the motherfucking day yeahhhh
@Walter hard to tell if you're serious or a troll
Just excited
So, the bad hombres need to be gassed
Adam is acting as if we haven't sent the army or DEA into another country to kill cartels
We did multiple times and it worked
Yes, look to colombia
Now imagine the entire fucken military doing it in Mexico
Colombia is better now
Yes
Would be awesome
The first appearance of the space force could be in the mexican desert
Cant wait the next Season of Narcos
@Walter narcos went to shit after Pablo died
No point watching past it
Narcos producers are suffering in Mรฉxico now
One producer was killed
I thought the same, but i am still loving it
1205 AD - Pope Innocent III states Jews are doomed to perpetual servitude and subjugation due to crucifixion of Jesus
Do you think they need to be arrested too?
I can help with automod
u can configure dyno to filter certain words and give it a message cooldown
and too many violations and the user gets muted or banned
mhm
GOT OVER 600 PINGS wew
your lucky @King Leopold II i got over 4,000
5k pings...
I cleared more than two thousand five hundred pings in nine words
Monogamy should be rejected temporarily until population demographics change. What do you reckon?
that seems like a violation of personal privacy
y not immigration?
I dont understand how you mean, sorry!
you want to fix the aging crisis in the workforce right?
just increase the # of white births
seems like a worse solution to me
and stop unequal resource flow from productive -> unproductive
If anybody asks you, tell them that your idol is King Oedipus of Thebes
you can just say oedipus he's kind of famous and also no
Oedipus accidentally fulfilled a prophecy that he would end up killing his father and marrying his mother, thereby bringing disaster to his city and family.
Shit, that guy really fucked up.
and then freud got to him
Das rayciss
Because race is real and whites should start taking their own side for once. Thats the heart of it for me.
i'm confused
What do you mean
Oedipus is a cool dude
he killed only one person which is pretty good for Ancient Greek play characters
there's a reason oedipus rex is a tragedy
i don't see anything wrong with killing the dude who tried to kill you
idk a lot of my research is about high-skilled immigration
then just increase high skilled
immigration
wrong
Dear god, over 4k pinga
eb-1 and eb-2
we got raided
First time I've had 4k discord pings :}
what i'm advocating for is keeping low-skilled/family/diversity caps the same while raising high-skilled immigration
which is different
doesn't seem smart in the face of an aging crisis but i don't know much about low-skilled so i won't really get into the debate
what
how about do the opposite
outlawing birth control definitely violates privacy
^
so it just doesn't matter?
wow
also what rights does legal birth control violate specifically?
baby die is bad
yeah
>condoms affect the mind
either way i don't care cause personal freedom
depends the one I guess
i just don't see how birth control is the government's business
why not just make sure they dont before they are allowed to sell
@Deleted User do you have a source
Having sex for pleasure is degenerate change my mind
biology
hahahahahhaa
sex is a good source of pleasure
humans strive for pleasure
Sex's primary purpose is to procreate, secondary is pleasure
ok cool
have 3-4 kids
and have pleasure
as well
Ideal is 2 kids @Da_Fish
why though
3 shortens life span
3 kids is too much trust me on this one
Hi is this a religious server
2 is the optimal for maximum lifespan
Need 4 at least to save the west
@Deleted User Only Christians allowed
Cool
Im catholic
guess i'm getting kicked
@Deleted User prove it
>Catholics
cite a source
come on who doesnt like catholics
@Deleted User are you v2 Catholic?
I'm a congregationalist puritan
um well
I dislike Catholics
not really
V2 Catholics are retarded and should be excommunicated
but im not a sede either
Im like in between
@Deleted User you can't excuse yourself from having to cite evidence
Catholics are full of degenerates
@Deleted User the pope is fallible
not all hormones automatically effect the mind
at least i'd need to see a source on that
The Catholic Church is in the great apostasy and no one should follow it
@Doctor Anon i agree
Become a Puritan Congregationalist
Sex for pleasure is degenerate... lol thats gonna be a hard sell mate.
correlation <:unequal:473954748517842954> causation
I was about to say how did we get from Birth control and horomones to depression?
i'm glad that happened cause i saw you use a huffpo source
which i find amusing
ik ik
i wasn't attacking the source
i just registered my amusement
I wanted 4 kids, I dont care if I lose a few years of lifespan
i just like having the source because it tends to be more nuanced than the person citing it
"Meanwhile birth control has been proven to affect the mind and the divorce rates have skyrocketed since it was introduced" I can agree more with the first part than the divorce rate part.
divorce rates I think will be affected by other major factors alongside birth control. But its easier to bail with no kids involved if thats the link.
ik it's just when it seems like bs and they don't have a source there's an inclination to dismiss the argument
even if it's a legit argument in actuality
I take into account sources
Are formal debates arranged here?
hah of course its not
its a conversation on a discord that can spring up on any topic at any time so you gotta give some slack
Nuclear family best family
Birth control big no no encourages degenerate behavior
but im just asking if such formal / serious debates can happen here, giving people time to prepare a case
Or if you want it legal, jack up the prices
@Omniconsumerproducts formal debates <#452955229227319306> or VC
Doctor, you talk nonsense. Lets say I work and have 4 kids, I cant afford 5, but now I gotta move to only anal because you have banned birth control
lol
If you can't afford another kid
Don't take the risk
Fucking degenerate
I mean there's always adoption
If you don't want a flat ban, then jack up the prices of birth control
Debate on libertarians and friends happening rn feel free to join
@crippling depression shut up shill
Pills as birth control I'd flat out ban
Dont take the risk? Im not letting you take away my sexual gratification without a better argument than its degenerate.
And Jack up prices of condoms
@Omniconsumerproducts I have to say the way you are approaching this debate is wrong. Because catholic dogma has never changed and it will always be the same, however you want to do things that are pleasurable even if it goes against catholic dogma and that means you are disobeying. Now I have no idea if you are catholic or not but doing things for pleasure can be very bad because that means you have no self control nor discipline.
@Omniconsumerproducts Fuck your sexual gratification, sex is meant for reproducing, go masturbate
I dont think so, if I have sex 4 times in my life, once for each kid and thats all Im getting? I dont think so mate.
Sex's primary purpose is to reproduce
@Doctor Anon da fish said you guys would not @ everyone for my group. But he did say I could advertise my debate today
Also, I love the discussion happening here
It's secondary purpose is pleasure
Yea of course it is, added benefit is its also fun.
@Omniconsumerproducts I'm fine with married couples having sex for pleasure and using birth control
Just not unmarried couples
I can control myself to responsibly enjoy both. I dont see why the irresponsible should cause me to lose out.
The amount of sex a woman has before marriage directly coorelates with marriage faluire
^
@Omniconsumerproducts I understand where you are coming from, but when you say that it really looks bad on you. You want to use your significant other for pleasure and kids. The way you talk about sex is like you only like it for pleasure
And I'm atheist, but respect some traditions of Christianity. Sex is enjoyable, its a serious business though because you can fuck up your life if you make bad mistakes.
So why not assume the morals which prevent life fuckery
Mm That's good that you think that way for an atheist @Omniconsumerproducts
isn't that the typical atheist view
>4000 pings
"The amount of sex a woman has before marriage directly coorelates with marriage faluire" Thats true, but its not taught youth. People should learn the facts and then if they choose to ignore them, they pay the price and serve as an example to others, as it was in the past.
what the fuck
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@Omniconsumerproducts Schools should encourage sex only in marriage
Marriage is outdated imo
Kys athiest nihilist
Im hardly a nihilist
I just reject dogma
The family is the absolute foundation of a society
Not the individual
I dont disagree with that, but I can choose my own private vows with women and its no business of anyone else.
@Omniconsumerproducts in marriage what you do is no buisneess of the state at that point
Especially not religion or the state.
But before marriage it's degenerate and should be discouraged
''Pills as birth control I'd flat out ban'' why, they are extremely effective if used as reccomended
@Milk condoms work, and sex is meant to be for reproducing primarily
>pills
yeah, let the women fuck up their hormones unnaturally
Depends on what the objective is. Mine is to raise healthy children to raise the standard of our society higher with every new generation.
Not burden free sex
To raise healthy moral children, you need a stable family
Well I'm glad that y'all aren't degens
The most statistically stable and happy families are those with women that have the least amount of sexual partners before marriage @Omniconsumerproducts
well that just says that they are whores and whores usually aren't good people
there isn't a direct correlation
I agree stability, the traditional family though... I dont see why I cant have multiple wives, especially with so many white cucks jacking off in their basements, theres a surplus of women! And of course, another stat I agree with Doctor Anon.
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