Hi

Hey

hey

Hey

Hej

socialism works, change my mind

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Anyway, the one idea I wish to have in a debate? How to handle drama and multiple incidents in a discord server.

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@Doctor Anon question

will my libtard role like undo my senior citizen advantage

@L0GAN what

@L0GAN ur left wing

im talking about the ruels thing

it says senior citizens get an advantage in punishments

but will my role undo that advantage?

No

Just makes it easier to round you up when the camps are finished

https://youtu.be/QgydTdThoeA?t=240

Seen it

10/10 would do it again

heh

hi dooby ❤

HAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHA

@Doctor Anon oh god what did you say to him

I literally tweeted one word

"Blind."

@सासोलॊपै

why did he get pissed

no idea lmao

@Deleted User Oh Hiya Leaf

@Da_Fish can you be a little more discerning about who you partner with

The Chads is a cancerous shitposting server

The Chads seems pretty cool imo

I've been there for less than 10 hours but so far it looks good to me

What do y'all think women's role should be in society? What should a general woman do with her life?

Stay at home

make food

take care of kids

@Deleted User its sn inside joke kind of thing, my nane was pizza face and i changed it to mr.p, and then i added "that fascist"

Just posted a comment outlining the arguments against abortion on r/askwomen (on a question specifically asking for women against abortion), currently watching the clock to see how long it takes me to get banned. I'm not even against abortion in all cases, but especially with the birth control available today, I find it extremely hard to justify, and I don't see how people can deny that it's fundamentally murder

@O. paxarbolis keep me updated

a women’s role should be whatever they want it to be

I already got banned from mgtow, probably for a comment suggesting that the sub was sexist (which isn't even necessarily a bad thing, in my view). I know the sub isn't fundamentally sexist, but the content that gets upvoted supports a sexist narrative. Again, I'm super fucking sexist myself oftentimes, but those guys are in denial. They just need to embrace it.

Or maybe it's because they figured out I'm a gril and don't want those in their little safe space, which I can understand

Sexism is a good thing, the be honest.

how so

It's realistic

And practical

When implemented right

It's just human nature, there is a fundemental differance between man and woman. This differance manifests itself in the roles of men and women.

Sexism is basically acknowledging those differences and acting accordingly

Like only letting men in the military

Preferring women as early childhood educators

i mean if someone is able to do something and wants to do it then why shouldn’t they be allowed to

I still like to give people the benefit of the doubt sometimes and acknowledge individual differences within the sexes, but most often it turns out my instincts were right

Sexism is, in the end, first and foremost derived from values. If you value equality then it would be a bad thing, however, if your values are derived from God and tradition, you see no problem in it.

I value truth

Values do not come from logic, and what is logical depends on our values.

So, how do you find out what your values are if not from observation and evidence?

If you think of MGTOW as a boycott until things improve, it's smart. If you think it's a permanent thing then you're delusional.

You can still argue for your own values, after all, most people don't realize values are not derived from logic. Values really come from your family, your culture and, hopefully, God.

my values aren't really from any of those that i can think of personally

If you value equality, you will see the differances of man and woman as a bad thing. If you value inequality, you will see it as a good thing. Both of these perspectives are equally logical, they both recognize the truth of the differance. However, they view it in different ways.

@ham addition Ideaologies can also have a value system.

that's true

i take my personal values more from my ideology than family, culture, or religion

but honestly it's mostly bc i don't believe my culture has any values in particular tied to it and i'm not religious

I derive my values from tradition. Why? Because I want to. You can list a bunch of things that you think are good with doing that, but, in the end, what you think is good is based on your values.

yeah

anyway about the original question

what would you mean by sexism

Well, I have reappropriated the word "sexism".

I don't mean that I hate women by it, but most of the things that are now seen as sexist, I see as good.

what sort of things would you mean by that

Not allowing women as rulers, for example.

how would that be an issue though

What do you mean?

women being rulers

That is not their role, it is not appropriate for them to be rulers.

i mean, some countries' arguably greatest leaders have been women

e.g. elizabeth i/victoria, catherine the great, maria theresa, indira gandhi, margaret thatcher, cleopatra, etc

you might disagree with a few of them, i know i certainly don't agree with thatcher, but you can't deny at least that they were good leaders

Take note on how most of those examples were monarchs.

They were born and bread to rule. Of course they would be atleast somewhat compitent even if they were women.

This does not change the fact that governance is not appropriate for women.

why isn't it appropriate for them though

what is it about being a woman that somehow makes you inherently worse in the exact same role as a man

It's not that they are worse as rulers, although most are, it is that it isn't approptiate.

And this comes from values

alright, then why is it not appropriate

and from my point of view i haven't seen female rulers doing any worse of a job than male ones so i'm not sure where you're getting that from

It isn't appropriate because my values say so. It doesn't make any sense trying to explain it after that.

It is so because it is.

well you're right about it not making any sense because i am thoroughly confuzzled

Like how peadophilia is wrong because it is. Not because children can't consent, they can, but because it simply is.

are you comparing women being rulers to pedophilia

i don't think those are remotely comparable

It is the same principle. Peadophilia is bad, so is female rulers (not to the same degree of course). Why are these two things bad? Well, they just are.

also i didn't notice where you said that children can consent at first but yikes

and there's an actual reason for pedophilia being bad, that being that children can't consent and express that they don't want sex

Most of the times doing such acts hurts the child, but not always. Yet, I still believe it is wrong.

whereas there is not an equivalent for women being rulers

that is like comparing murder and jaywalking

I'm definetly not saying the two are in any way equally bad.

Obviously, peadophilia is worse.

But why is it bad?

Children can consent. But I think it is still horrible.

It is a very dangerous mindset to have, because the only thing you have to do to make you belive peadophilia is moral is to convince you children can consent.

I, however, will still think it is horrible.

alright but all you've actually provided to say that women being rulers is bad is that it goes against your values without any other reasoning

nobody is hurt or disadvantaged by it, so what is the issue

Alright

To truely argue for my case we have to delve deep into the value systems we both hold.

your values don't just come out of nowhere, you have to decide on why you hold them yourself

the rationale behind child labor laws and laws against pedophilia is that children are not capable of completely understanding the situation

Of course, it is a little bit more complicated then just deciding what morals to have because we humans have a built-in sense of morality, although that can be eroded. We have a whole feild to discuss such things, Ethics.

In any case, why would it make sense just to decide what is moral or not based on weather it hurts other people?

well this has been a fun time but i would like to play rollercoaster tycoon 2 now so bye

Alright

Good bye

Pedophilia is fucking abhorrent, I object to it on emotional grounds primarily and I will defend that to death

Yes, exactly.

👆

I'm normally all about logic and science and sheiz, but if a study comes out saying that pedophilia is actually good for children I will literally become a denier of science in order to keep any children I have safe from that crap

Well I mean, it is logical

You can't decide what is good or what is bad using science

That’s why Philosophy is still important 😃

@सासोलॊपै if that is the way you feel about that server then I will treat you too with the contempt you deserve

@Deleted User you were right it's just shitposts oof

Yup

Sadly the good NatSoc servers are very paranoid

And my reputation as a shitposter prevents me from getting vetted

otter...i've seen you in philosophy and politics

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Yes; I am notorious

But i am only here to put @εïз irma εïз in her place

She needs a good spanking

That's repulsive.

@Deleted User wtf are you going on about

But for real, this Trump bitch is going on and on arguing with me about why denying reality isn't weak (my claim being that it was). I mean, im fine with trump, but... defensive much? I feel like she gets told she denies reality a lot in order for her to have such an aversive reaction to my comment. Typically by liberals, probably, which she's probably assuming i am based on what I'm subscribed to.

Who’s “this trump bitch “

oh

Someone from this dumbfuck site called Reddit

reddit wow

@ᗪㄖㄖ乃ㄚᐯ I like your name.

thanks fam

Seconded

I took screenshots. Can post imgur link if anyone gives a shit

@Da_Fish no I wasn't banned, thread got downvoted into oblivion

link the thread

@O. paxarbolis

does this work? https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/9cb5m1/how_would_you_describe_a_weak_man/e59dhom

wait, did you mean the abortion one? I'll just post that too

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/9c8ual/why_dont_you_support_abortion/

@Da_Fish

liberals tend to scricice any semblence of self thought in exchange for expert opinions, if an expert came out tommorow saying the earth was flat 90% of liberals would immediately be enfatuated with the idea

there are experts that say global warming isn't man-made and we don't listen to them

Often times this even spans into morals. If an expert tells the left that its okay to kill white straight heterosexual men adn it is their ide aof a scientifically good world, chances are you will legitmately provoke murders. its scary.

Im talking about the milquetoast liberals, but the idea that there is one expert rather than another is rather moot when liberals tend to first have authorities elevate the expert.

hence why punch a nazi has become a somewhat accepted sentiment.

im pretty sure that would not happen whatsoever

"The trouble with the expert is never that he is not a man; it is always that wherever he is not an expert he is too much of an ordinary man. Wherever he is not exceptionally learned he is quite casually ignorant. This is the great fallacy in the case of what is called the impartiality of men of science. If scientific men had no idea beyond their scientific work it might be all very well — that is to say, all very well for everybody except them. But the truth is that, beyond their scientific ideas, they have not the absence of ideas but the presence of the most vulgar and sentimental ideas that happen to be common to their social clique. If a biologist had no views on art and morals it might be all very well. The truth is that the biologist has all the wrong views of art and morals that happen to be going about in the smart set of his time."

Unrelated:

isn't that shitposting?

Quoting Chesterson puts balance to the universe.

no but ok

Are you some kind of *expert* on shitposting or something?

i was talking about hitler in a party dress when i said that

not your quote

The quote balances the dead crossdressing Hitler.

It's the juxtaposition of a nonsensical screenshot of a video game and William Blake that balances the universe.

It's pretty esoteric.

Someone spray painted “punch all nazis” on a huge street sign next to my school when trump was elected, and it took a year to get taken off

probably not worth the money to get it cleaned

That's not very inclusive to Nazis.

oh no 😢

Tolerance is for the weak and a byproduct of slave morality.

Tried the chads server from partners because I got sold by the art then got banned pretty fast. Guess you have to follow a strict line.

@Omniconsumerproducts what did you do

Chad server is full of beta virgins

Said that some asian girls could be more attractive than white girls and when asked if jews are a threat to the west, said some jews act in their collective interest that would not be good for host populations.

I said Hitler was controlled opposition

THat got you a ban or promotion?

I was threatened with a ban

I am happy to be challenged on what I said, but flat out banning me seemed pretty beta.

!rank @Omniconsumerproducts

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I mean, you cant really revisit anything about WW2 in the current climate. Id hear out both sides. Whats oof!

I just dinged 6 😛

What

Now I’m applying it just to see the mess

That emoji makes me cringe

😛

*this is why we need age limits*

There needs to be a bot that just erases emojis that you set it to

i can set that emoji as a "bad word"

and itll delete

Oh nice

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You pulled up my level, and in back alley i was notified of my rise to 6. Im not sure I need to care about it or not!

I mean is it actually worth caring about?

Special treatment by the judges

Basically

@Omniconsumerproducts Eh.
Level 10 is Senior Citizen
Level 20 is Honored Citizen

it gives you perms for links and images in this channel

that's basically it

idk what benefits to add to the roles

ideas anyone?

use of any emoji, no matter how cringe

./s

/s ?

sarcastic or not serious

but im not down with the etiquette yet.

Send 10$ to every honored citizen once a week sounds reasonable

i have $0

Who pays? the top of the pyramid or the bottom?

The top, until I get there then the bottom

tax the poor and the rich to encourage a larger middle class

Tax everyone equally so the poor dont feel cheated and the rich are encouraged to stay in your country

flat tax best tax

gn all!

gn

I had never heard the word Praetor until recently and that’s a rad as fuck word. Pronunciation wise

its the position below consul

What does a consul do

@Griselda owners of the server

No like the actual title

they were in charge of rome

Thanks

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^members

I haven't taken the political compass thing in a long while

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

^is this the generally accepted site for it?

Yes

@Griselda

wow I've moved since I last took it

Send it

@Griselda send it

hold up

it won't let me send it in this chat

try now @Griselda

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there it is

meh

too libertarian