All the people who belong to that 'majority' aren't all the same, they obviously differ in their views

Or just minorities in general.

@Advocatus Diaboli I would certainly say gaining power just because people want you in power is not a legitimate source

What

@Fuju I’ve seen more people flip out due to someone mentioning someone’s natural pronouns to their preferred pronouns.

How else can you ensure the mutual trust between the leadership and the people?

If you want what's best for your health, a candyman is worse than a doctor. Yet you like the candyman more, he offers you colorful treats and sweets. The doctor is scary and will hurt you

you will vote for the candyman

not the doctor

And the gender freaks are only a small portion of the population.

but your health will decrease

Yeah

And then you'll learn from your mistakes and vote for the doctor

ha

yeah

certainly shown in practice

right?

"learn from your mistakes" is not a good justification for an electoral system.

that too.

i would be willing to let go of that talking point

if people actually learned from their mistakes

but they dont

being voted in does not mean you are the best

@Fuju See Obama and Ronald Reagan.

But it does mean that most of the people trust you

Well by minority I meant the people who actually think and not the sheep who watch CNN to tell them who to vote for

What

Wdym @Dwarf

One of the major reasons why I hate Communism is the State Atheism.

^

There was a freedom of religion under Stalin

Learning from your mistakes isn’t a good example of pro-electoral politics.

Obama did a lot of bad than good but people didn’t learn that.

“Religion is an Opiate Of the Masses” - Karl Marx

Reagan did a bit of bad too.

Secularism and freedom of religion are two different things @Advocatus Diaboli

Ikr

So Secularism is State Atheism?

@Advocatus Diaboli ok and? most people trust fraudsters

or hustlers

What

you dont know if someone is a fraudster until it's too late

Ok @Adoring Fan , which political system is the best in your opinion?

@Advocatus Diaboli my favoured system is national socialism

Right

Talk about failed systems

?

NS worked though

Nazism

>the communist telling the natsoc about failed systems

^

The difference between Fascism and Nazism is that Nazism is racist, Fascism isnt

natsoc only "failed" because your jewish run cabal in the US and USSR decided it would team up

communism failed from the start

@Rhodesiaboo partly, there is also an economic aspect to it

german socialism vs corporatism

Also Fascism Survived in Spain until the 70s and that was only because Franco’s Heir decided to bring democracy back

fascism failed because it was killed off. It would have survived if it won. Communism is not self sustaining.

The USSR industrialized itself in 10 years using almost no foreign credits

>no foreign credit

>15 countries in one

BWAHAHAHAHA

So what?

alright, lets unite the world, no foreign creidt lmao

Why not

And Nazi Germany had huge debts to the West

jew detected

I'm no Jew

a spiritual one, for sure

Nazi economy was based on cheating

Like MEFO

lol

Iron Guard is the best.

Codreanu was a good lad

cheating wah wah. Yet people actualy prospered

BTW we shouldn't forget about Nazi pillaging

Kristallnacht

yes

that was a good thing

so was long knives

death to strasser and the boy lover rohm

Gay

yes, rohm was gay

Kristallnacht good
Long knives bad

and the communist has no say about pillaging when you brutally murdered the royalty

But all their stuff was used for public prosperity, not to make capitalists like Krupp even richer than before

How is Kristallnacht relevant to Krupp?

Confiscating Jews' property and huge military spending

the pogrom wasnt initiated for public prosperity. It was a revolt, simple as that. Reaping of the rewards of the pogrom is irrelevant to me

Pogroms are anti-Jewish violence

and?

🤦

it's not inherently anti-jewish either

ah yes

face palm

you got me

>2018
>evil joos

Not an argument.

Oh come on

What

Its not

>oh come on

The current date is never an argument.

Jews aren't worse than any other nation

I MEAN**COME** ***OOONNN***

@Advocatus Diaboli is your wife's 6 year old son literally shaking rn?

wtf

What do you mean?

proof that the left cant meme ^

I'm not the only left in the world

i wish you were.

now then on the topic of "evil joos"

@Advocatus Diaboli become nazbol

that is not an argument

Jews aren't worse than any other nation

YOU have to prove they are

nation?

kicked out of nations 359 times throughout europe

in charge of a degenerate media

and banking system

created the 1965 immigration act

created a system of psychology responsible for equating playing with your child as an act of sexual repression

created a system of anthropology which streamlined the postmodernist view that all races are equal

and/or that race does not exist

streamlined the creation of communism, the system that killed off more people than any other ideology in the world

Yeah, the whole nation is responsible for all this, right

Jews are pretty much if bond villains became a race.

Capitalism killed way more people than communism did

well, if the whole nation is not responsible, explain why the CPUSA kicked out communist goys that were against israel

How is this relevant

because jews have a hivemind mentality

Did we even say we are capitalists lo

nothing matters more to them than to preserve their group interests

and no we are not capitalists

but to this Shlomo

Fascism is capitalism

everything right of stalin is capitalism

see?

lmao

nothing matters more to them than to advance their group interests through subversion

Private property of the means of production wasn't abolished

That doesn't mean it's capitalism.

prussian socialism =/= capitalism

Why not?

Private property = capitalism

...

here we see the subversive communist attempting to degenerate the use of language to put himself on a pedestal

no private property existing is a mere symptom of capitalism

a system where you own a house but payu 99% income tax is not capitalism

Nope, it's the base of capitalist mode of production

Taxes dont matter

this guy

Capitalists believe it is good for a nation to have a people whose goal in life is to make money.

what is your definitive understanding of capitalism, tankie?

This guy is so far left he literally thinks if you believe in private property you're a capitalist.

Because it's true

I'm a corporatist and a distributist.

So?

@Advocatus Diaboli define capitalism

i'll humor you

considering you believe that a pogrom is anti jewish violence

i dont see your definitions as being wholly correct

Capitalism is an economic system with private property of the means of production where wage labour is used to produce goods and services

define private property then because no system today has total private property

using your definition only anarcho-capitalism abides

your understanding of capitalism is a system that has any private property at all

which is completely untrue

and has never been treated as such by anyone except for marx and his followers.

Private property is a right of individual to manage things he owns in a way he considers the most beneficial

@Advocatus Diaboli ok, so then by your definition of capitalism there is no system in the world that is capitalistic. Because every system has **some** public ownership

again, if your definition of capitalism is that there just **is** private ownership at all, then I do not accept your definition and think it is ludicrous

Please put in mind that personal property =/= private property

Lol wtf

@Advocatus Diaboli and there is public property in every system too, if you want me to abide by your differentiation

natural monopolies, for instance

national railways

fucking streetlights

and roads

sewage systems

Teddy Roosevelt will always be one of my favorite presidents

If there's a single corporation, no matter how small it is, and it's not run by the state nor it's a cooperative, then it's capitalism

Because the only purpose of private property is making profit

What do you mean by private property

@Advocatus Diaboli like I said, that is not capitalism

What is the purpose of profit though?

that's an absolutist take i've never heard of

that is your view of capitalism

it's a very uneducated and broad view

What is capitalism then?

Is it profit to fund something, or profit because you just want to be rich?

@Advocatus Diaboli answer me

What is private property to you

Capitalism exists on a spectrum.

@GucciToiletSalesman Scroll up a bit, there's my answer

K

Wait

Capitalism is not a political ideology, it's an economic system

By your definition every system EVER has been capitalistic

So is hunting grounds considered for profit?

What

there has never been a system where a man did not make something and sell it to someone for profit.

Because most hunting grounds are either state owned or private property

and there never will be one

USSR

wrong

1929-1956

you dont think there were people who created objects and sold them?

you think that was outside the realm of possibility?

they existed

they existed for profit

therefore

capitalism

so

stalin was a capitalist pig

kill him

You forgot about the second part of my definition

Waged labour

no, like you said

"If there's a single corporation, no matter how small it is, and it's not run by the state nor it's a cooperative, then it's capitalism(edited)
Because the only purpose of private property is making profit"

the communist loves to abuse definitions

this goy isn't falling for it.

and soviet russia had a currency and a wage system anyway lmao

before and after stalin

But it wasn't waged labour because the means of production were owned by the workers

look above your own quoted definition

if x then y

x = corporation existing

y = capitalism

x existed in communism

therefore it was capitalism

Corporations didn't exist in the USSR during 1929-1956

and the wage was the profit the man makes from selling his object

this kind of discussion belongs in the regular politicord but alright lol

!rank

legally, one man undertaking the role of a company may be a company himself

you think of corporations as being divergent from humanity, soulless beings, yet you are wrong

one man can undertake the role of a corporation

and in my example the man does so

if you stockpile some wood, carve out duck toys out of them and sell them to your friends, you''re a corporation working for profit

Look, I can't precisely translate the term to English. In my language there's a term for a company where owners theirselves don't participate in the process of production. English word 'corporation' is just a rough equivalent.

Where you form anyhow

a russo obviously

Ukraine

Huh

same thing

Ukraine huh

bloody separatist!

Interesting

@Advocatus Diaboli that doesn't matter

private property isn't just made in the form of a corporation