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2018-06-02 11:12:24 UTC

@Deleted User get back in the kitchen

2018-06-02 11:12:27 UTC

and some bernanos letters abd pamphlets for the AF

2018-06-02 11:12:50 UTC

also i've read classical liberals and libertarians like Hayek, Friedman or Ayn Rand

2018-06-02 11:12:52 UTC

all bullshit

2018-06-02 11:12:59 UTC

and i've read it before lenin or marx

2018-06-02 11:13:26 UTC

or Mao, or Clouscard, Gramsci or any other marxist i've read

2018-06-02 11:13:40 UTC

Stalin, Hoxha etc.

2018-06-02 11:13:49 UTC

I swear to god

2018-06-02 11:13:49 UTC

What books did Stalin write?

2018-06-02 11:13:53 UTC

I want to read them

2018-06-02 11:13:55 UTC

The principle of leninism

2018-06-02 11:14:00 UTC

the foundations of leninism

2018-06-02 11:14:00 UTC

@Deleted User if it wasn't for Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin etc. you wouldn't be here talking about politics.

2018-06-02 11:14:03 UTC

anarchism and socialism

2018-06-02 11:14:18 UTC

Is that โ€œfascism is unstoppableโ€ persons pfp real?

2018-06-02 11:14:24 UTC

the economics problems of the USSR

2018-06-02 11:14:26 UTC

it better not be her

2018-06-02 11:14:31 UTC

all good reads

2018-06-02 11:14:42 UTC

but the most easy to read is Lenin, he's straight forward and a great writer

2018-06-02 11:14:44 UTC

Cause if that is her sheโ€™s 110% a trap

2018-06-02 11:14:53 UTC

Marx and Engels too

2018-06-02 11:14:57 UTC
2018-06-02 11:15:40 UTC

Is Dialectical and Historical Materialism any good?

2018-06-02 11:15:53 UTC

Mao's little red book needs context and cannot be read as such, you'll nead to find some actual books he wrote like on practice and contradictions or on guerilla warfare

2018-06-02 11:15:54 UTC

@Deleted User what do you mean it is unstoppable, Italy, Germany, Hungary, etc.

2018-06-02 11:16:10 UTC

it's the best @Aemon

2018-06-02 11:16:21 UTC

On Guerrilla Warfare by Che and Mao are both good

2018-06-02 11:16:23 UTC

the best way to understand history and economy

2018-06-02 11:16:42 UTC

I'll read that one then

2018-06-02 11:16:49 UTC

It's not too long as well.

2018-06-02 11:16:52 UTC

read the manifesto, it's made for people to learn about it fast @Aemon

2018-06-02 11:17:04 UTC

The communist manifesto?

2018-06-02 11:17:06 UTC

it takes 30min to read and says it all before diving in more complicated reads

2018-06-02 11:17:07 UTC

yeah

2018-06-02 11:17:12 UTC

and the state and revolution by lenin

2018-06-02 11:17:14 UTC

great read

2018-06-02 11:17:24 UTC

I already read it but I might do it again since that was ages ago.

2018-06-02 11:17:24 UTC

the two best ways to begin with communist theory

2018-06-02 11:17:41 UTC

yeah the manifesto is like the shortest thing ive ever read, simple read ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

2018-06-02 11:17:47 UTC

@Sexy Marxist Boi pretty sure they had little to no influence in the west, where I live.

2018-06-02 11:18:13 UTC

@Deleted User lol then you've never got out of your bedroom

2018-06-02 11:18:30 UTC

or you have never read any form of historyy

2018-06-02 11:18:43 UTC

@Deleted User the Russian Revolution influenced the world. It forced capitalists to compromise with the working class and women

2018-06-02 11:18:49 UTC

One thing I find weird is that communism arose in rural Russia rather than an industrialized nation like Marx predicted.

2018-06-02 11:19:03 UTC

false

2018-06-02 11:19:09 UTC

it came from the proletariat of Petrograd

2018-06-02 11:19:13 UTC

but it's true for China

2018-06-02 11:19:15 UTC

Hi faggota

2018-06-02 11:19:17 UTC

it came from peasants

2018-06-02 11:19:27 UTC

Give me socdem

2018-06-02 11:19:33 UTC

Mao's theory is based around feodal and rural countries that haven't got any form of industrialization

2018-06-02 11:19:33 UTC

@Aemon industrialization was started in Russia before the revolution

2018-06-02 11:19:39 UTC

Just wasnโ€™t widespread yet

2018-06-02 11:19:50 UTC

@Hekay you can get roles in the party join channel

2018-06-02 11:19:52 UTC

Can someone give me socdem u stupid commies

2018-06-02 11:19:59 UTC

Thabjs

2018-06-02 11:20:03 UTC

๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

2018-06-02 11:20:08 UTC

@Aemon the revolutions tend to happen in 3rd world countries. Mao understood this better than anyone.

2018-06-02 11:20:29 UTC

Im a former socialist

2018-06-02 11:20:32 UTC

And it sucks

2018-06-02 11:20:35 UTC

I also know why

2018-06-02 11:21:25 UTC

Woops

2018-06-02 11:21:34 UTC

I accedently click fascist

2018-06-02 11:21:51 UTC

Socdem is shit

2018-06-02 11:22:00 UTC

traitors

2018-06-02 11:22:04 UTC

they killed rosa

2018-06-02 11:22:11 UTC

@Sexy Marxist Boi Yes, and that's totally why I have to be a Marxist. Valid point. I'm a woman.

2018-06-02 11:22:15 UTC

Socdem aka authertarian mixed econemy is the best

2018-06-02 11:22:30 UTC

All the best economic acheivements are due to social democracy

2018-06-02 11:22:32 UTC

so you are kinda SwCC

2018-06-02 11:22:41 UTC

Dengist

2018-06-02 11:23:34 UTC

Why did you go fascist then?

2018-06-02 11:23:44 UTC

@Deleted User no. I'm saying it's contradictory that you hate them whenever it was them that actually gave women rights or at least advocated them.

2018-06-02 11:23:46 UTC

Accidently clicked it

2018-06-02 11:23:46 UTC

demsoc is gross

2018-06-02 11:23:54 UTC

Socdem isnt demsoc

2018-06-02 11:23:58 UTC

Dumbass

2018-06-02 11:24:01 UTC

demsoc =/= socdem

2018-06-02 11:24:08 UTC

socdem is gross

2018-06-02 11:24:11 UTC

Women are only truly liberated through communism

2018-06-02 11:24:20 UTC

Fascists are even dumber than socialists

2018-06-02 11:24:20 UTC

^^^^

2018-06-02 11:24:21 UTC
2018-06-02 11:24:39 UTC

@Sexy Marxist Boi That's just as idiotic as a capitalist telling you that you can only have this debate because you own a phone or computer (produced by capitalists)

2018-06-02 11:24:39 UTC

Women gained more rights under socialism than ever

2018-06-02 11:24:50 UTC

@Deleted User its not because you are a woman, women are great and should be able to do everything a guy can but its just you are supporting an ideology which tells women you are only good for breeding like cattle

2018-06-02 11:24:54 UTC

Fascism will just subdue women to their dominated role

2018-06-02 11:25:12 UTC

Maybe because marxists don't live in the forest dummy?

2018-06-02 11:25:14 UTC

@Deleted User so Adam Smith made my computer then?

2018-06-02 11:25:16 UTC

we aint anprim

2018-06-02 11:25:23 UTC

Well woman are inherently worse than man

2018-06-02 11:25:33 UTC

we live under capitalism doesn't mean we can't be against it idiot

2018-06-02 11:25:35 UTC

@Hekay true lol

2018-06-02 11:25:51 UTC

its like black people supporting the KKK or jews supporting National Socialism thats why it can be seen as a bit odd

2018-06-02 11:25:58 UTC

Woman are minipulative and are selectively breeded upon their looka

2018-06-02 11:26:00 UTC

@DeadRavagerGames No, fascism just sees men and women as unequal. We have different purposes in life. Women are still just as appreciated as men

2018-06-02 11:26:07 UTC

@Hekay incel

2018-06-02 11:26:16 UTC

Yeah im an incel

2018-06-02 11:26:25 UTC

@Sexy Marxist Boi I'm saying it's an idiotic argument. Try something else.

2018-06-02 11:26:25 UTC

Women are appreciated for their role for breeding

2018-06-02 11:26:34 UTC

@Deleted User you would be appreciated if you could cook a good meal.

2018-06-02 11:26:48 UTC

Good thing I can.

2018-06-02 11:27:05 UTC

@Hekay straight virgin, what a shame

2018-06-02 11:27:16 UTC

Otherwise she wouldnโ€™t be of much use under the fascist system except for breeding

2018-06-02 11:27:18 UTC

check my post in propoganda

2018-06-02 11:27:23 UTC

@Sexy Marxist Boi why are you a marxist if you are an incel bitch

2018-06-02 11:27:25 UTC

Children should be sent to daycares and never meet their parents

2018-06-02 11:27:44 UTC

@Hekay you are a pol potist

2018-06-02 11:27:45 UTC

some fascists were "progressive" with regards to women

2018-06-02 11:27:55 UTC

@Aemon lol never ever

2018-06-02 11:28:02 UTC

look at the post then

2018-06-02 11:28:08 UTC

@Deleted User my phone was made by an employee not a CEO bastard.

2018-06-02 11:28:08 UTC

@Aemon YOURE NOT EVEN A FASHIT U DONT KNOW WHAT FASCISM IS U DUMBASS

2018-06-02 11:28:21 UTC

Ur litraally human scum kill all fascists

2018-06-02 11:28:27 UTC

Fascism is hardly monolithic

2018-06-02 11:28:35 UTC

NO ITS NOT XD

2018-06-02 11:28:40 UTC

@Deleted User mobile phones were invented in the USSR.

2018-06-02 11:28:43 UTC

yeah it isn't monolithic, but it's general shit too

2018-06-02 11:28:57 UTC

Fascist average iq is 90

2018-06-02 11:29:00 UTC

-30

2018-06-02 11:29:04 UTC

(60)

2018-06-02 11:29:17 UTC

i can agree with the -30 part

2018-06-02 11:29:22 UTC

thats my IQ too

2018-06-02 11:29:22 UTC

@Hekay true dat

2018-06-02 11:29:26 UTC

21st century fascism is just bald braindead and neckbeard incels

2018-06-02 11:29:26 UTC

@Sexy Marxist Boi Again, I wasn't making the argument. It's just as shitty as "hurr durr you're a woman". Shows who the real sexists are

2018-06-02 11:29:27 UTC

I guess sub saharan africa is pretty fascist then

2018-06-02 11:29:36 UTC

It is actually

2018-06-02 11:29:39 UTC

lol

2018-06-02 11:29:40 UTC

Dictatorships

2018-06-02 11:29:48 UTC

And traditional right

2018-06-02 11:29:49 UTC

military dictatorship that are imperialist proxys

2018-06-02 11:29:51 UTC

Tradition

2018-06-02 11:29:52 UTC

obviously

2018-06-02 11:29:57 UTC

Sankara ftw

2018-06-02 11:29:58 UTC

most of the dictators identify as communists

2018-06-02 11:30:00 UTC

Dictatorships aren't inherently fascist

2018-06-02 11:30:02 UTC

Wtf

2018-06-02 11:30:08 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2018-06-02 11:30:13 UTC

@Deleted User hahaha most communists are pro-choice and stuff. I'm just making a point.

2018-06-02 11:30:14 UTC

Was Stalin a fascist?

2018-06-02 11:30:16 UTC

Lenin?

2018-06-02 11:30:19 UTC

Krushchev?

2018-06-02 11:30:24 UTC

weird how african communists are nationalists while western ones are anti racist

2018-06-02 11:30:27 UTC

Stalin and Lenin weren't dictators

2018-06-02 11:30:32 UTC

LMAO

2018-06-02 11:30:35 UTC

Ok

2018-06-02 11:30:36 UTC

Fascism is one party dictatorship @Deleted User

2018-06-02 11:30:38 UTC

Krushshev was a revisionist

2018-06-02 11:30:41 UTC

@Deleted User they weren't

2018-06-02 11:30:54 UTC

@Deleted User Khrushchev will burn in hell

2018-06-02 11:31:17 UTC

Stalin and Lenin being dictators is just propaganda that undermines the role of the nomenklatura and over exaggerates their role in the state

2018-06-02 11:31:24 UTC

they face opposition and lost many debates

2018-06-02 11:31:43 UTC

stalin tried to separate the party and the state to prevent nomenklatura and bureaucracy power

2018-06-02 11:31:45 UTC

yeah im not a fan of Khrushchev myself due to is destalination policies

2018-06-02 11:31:45 UTC

same for Mao

2018-06-02 11:31:57 UTC

Cultural Revolution was a people insurrection against bureaucracy

2018-06-02 11:31:59 UTC

Commie civil war please

2018-06-02 11:32:02 UTC

What kind of dictator tries to resign like 4 times?

2018-06-02 11:32:20 UTC

it ain't a civil war just a friendly discussion like most have

2018-06-02 11:32:22 UTC

what kind of dictator leaves the central comitee when nominated at the state

2018-06-02 11:32:35 UTC

@Sexy Marxist Boi One who really believes in his ideology

2018-06-02 11:32:39 UTC

Your not a dictator if you're the embodiment of the people

2018-06-02 11:32:39 UTC

what dictator faces opposition when the constitution was rewritten against his policies

2018-06-02 11:32:58 UTC

Your not a dictator if you're the embodiment of the people

^^^^

2018-06-02 11:33:09 UTC

what dictator had to stop and execute his head of security when he got too repressive

2018-06-02 11:33:20 UTC

and didn't follow the law

2018-06-02 11:33:32 UTC

Fascism -2 = 2

2018-06-02 11:33:33 UTC

and fabricated lies to imprison innocents

2018-06-02 11:33:50 UTC

Stalin stopped unjustified repression

2018-06-02 11:33:52 UTC

2+2 = fascism

2018-06-02 11:33:55 UTC

just dem facts

2018-06-02 11:33:56 UTC

look it up

2018-06-02 11:34:16 UTC

the Moscow trials were justified and was transparent

2018-06-02 11:34:38 UTC

the guilty part were terrorists and prepared a coup to overthrow the state

2018-06-02 11:34:41 UTC

so they had to be arrested

2018-06-02 11:34:43 UTC

^^

2018-06-02 11:34:59 UTC

international observers and the general public were allowed in the audience

2018-06-02 11:35:02 UTC

Same for Marxists under Hitler ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™€๏ธ

2018-06-02 11:35:06 UTC

how a repressive gov would allow such a thing

2018-06-02 11:35:43 UTC

Marxists were just opposition hitler repressed and they were right to try to kill him, sorry not sorry

2018-06-02 11:36:55 UTC

The USSR did far more than repress the opposition, it eliminated them.

2018-06-02 11:37:01 UTC

"opposition" whose main objective was the implementation of communism/socialism

2018-06-02 11:37:10 UTC

maybe because the opposition was a serious threat

2018-06-02 11:37:15 UTC

like kulaks burning crops and caused famine

2018-06-02 11:37:23 UTC

or fascists trying to destroy the USSR

2018-06-02 11:37:28 UTC

or trots being general idiots

2018-06-02 11:37:35 UTC

that sided with fascists in ukraine

2018-06-02 11:37:35 UTC

Marxists were a serious threat to the unity of the German people

2018-06-02 11:37:41 UTC

no

2018-06-02 11:37:54 UTC

you are a moron

2018-06-02 11:38:03 UTC

@Deleted User donโ€™t worry they all get the bullet

2018-06-02 11:38:04 UTC

Marxists were trying to liberate the german people

2018-06-02 11:38:19 UTC

Hitler was like the opposite of a unifying leader

2018-06-02 11:38:28 UTC

How so?

2018-06-02 11:38:36 UTC

maybe because of idk, war and the holocaust

2018-06-02 11:38:44 UTC

that destroyed germany for good

2018-06-02 11:38:58 UTC

while the DDR reconstructed it and unified workers against fascism

2018-06-02 11:38:58 UTC

The holohoax never happened, buttttt, even if it did, Jews aren't the German people

2018-06-02 11:39:11 UTC

thats a lie

2018-06-02 11:39:13 UTC

lol, I ain't even responding to this one, you are just a major dipshit gal

2018-06-02 11:39:27 UTC

>communism opposing famine

2018-06-02 11:39:32 UTC

well yeah

2018-06-02 11:39:35 UTC

no one wants famine idiot

2018-06-02 11:39:38 UTC

They caused a famine in the breadbasket of Europe

2018-06-02 11:39:43 UTC

>starving in breadlines

2018-06-02 11:39:43 UTC

@Deleted User you aren't even a fascist. You're Nazi scum

2018-06-02 11:39:46 UTC

Rip commies

2018-06-02 11:39:47 UTC

Kulaks and international bans made it

2018-06-02 11:39:53 UTC

Ukraine

2018-06-02 11:39:59 UTC

I'm not a nazi, really

2018-06-02 11:40:00 UTC

my grandfather killed many jews

2018-06-02 11:40:03 UTC

so its not a hoax

2018-06-02 11:40:09 UTC

in what army

2018-06-02 11:40:19 UTC

The Soviet one

2018-06-02 11:40:19 UTC

@Deleted User where are you from?

2018-06-02 11:40:20 UTC

Kek

2018-06-02 11:40:27 UTC

a war pretty much started by Poland, as Germany went there to save Germans in Poland because Germany lost land during WWI

2018-06-02 11:40:28 UTC

^^

2018-06-02 11:40:29 UTC

The US, England?

2018-06-02 11:40:33 UTC

yeah, Kulaks were responsible for the famine, that affected mostly russian regions and kazakhstan, didn't even affect the more nationalist parts of ukraine, explain how it is a genocide then

2018-06-02 11:40:36 UTC

I don't see how that's relevant @Sexy Marxist Boi

2018-06-02 11:40:52 UTC

@Deleted User basically because Brits are stupid

2018-06-02 11:40:56 UTC

oof

2018-06-02 11:40:56 UTC

the Bengali Famine were orchestrated by the UK on the other hand

2018-06-02 11:41:03 UTC

Churchill was happy with it

2018-06-02 11:41:06 UTC

I know

2018-06-02 11:41:11 UTC
2018-06-02 11:41:34 UTC

I don't think any of us like Churchill here

2018-06-02 11:41:41 UTC

Kulaks were working class traitors who decided to be petti-bourgeoise

2018-06-02 11:41:41 UTC

well thank god

2018-06-02 11:41:46 UTC

@Deleted User you're from the US I take it?

2018-06-02 11:41:50 UTC

Kulaks werent working class

2018-06-02 11:41:54 UTC

they were landowners and bourgeois

2018-06-02 11:42:00 UTC

kulaks aren't peasants

2018-06-02 11:42:10 UTC

peasants were exploited by kulaks

2018-06-02 11:42:23 UTC

I don't live where I'm "from" @Sexy Marxist Boi

2018-06-02 11:42:37 UTC

They were peti-bourgeois, they were the serfs who firsts were freed and then rose to bourgeois status and then exploited the peasant farmers

2018-06-02 11:42:50 UTC

yeah exactly

2018-06-02 11:43:17 UTC

@Deleted User oh, so you're a Yankee colonialist?

2018-06-02 11:43:45 UTC

Most people were serfs or descendants of serfs under the Feudal Russians system

2018-06-02 11:43:48 UTC

idk why that matters

2018-06-02 11:44:03 UTC

we are talking about the Kulaks

2018-06-02 11:44:06 UTC

funny on how dipshits believe communism = famines when capitalism caused all the famines since then that are way deadllier

2018-06-02 11:44:25 UTC

@Marine4121 capitalism has killed more people then communism

2018-06-02 11:44:30 UTC

fascism too

2018-06-02 11:44:30 UTC

Ukrainian famine was purposefully caused though

2018-06-02 11:44:32 UTC

sorry not sorry

2018-06-02 11:44:33 UTC

yeah if communism causes famines then what about the famines that happen under the capitalist system, if their system is so great

2018-06-02 11:44:36 UTC

no

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