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@Julien Blanc Where'd you get that wall of text from?
@[Lex] Chateau Heartiste
Big news in the realm of the Orthodox Church
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45529355
@R E P T I L E @Ghawk thoughts?
This is not new, the Patriarch of Russia has always been impossible to work with. They always view themselves as the "Third Rome" and claims that justifies their claim of being higher than the Patriarch of Constantinople.
Even then you have other Patriarchs that have cut ties with each other. Most recently, the Patriarch of Antioch cut ties with the Patriarch of Jerusalem because Jerusalem built a church in Antioch's justification. This happened in 2014.
*me when someone says โThe Left can memeโ*
@FLanon @Ghawk It's ridiculous to call the Russian Orthodox Church "impossible to work with" when the Ecumenical Patriarch is trying to forcibly reorganize the ROC and split one of its autonomous jurisdictions from it to form a new one, in collaboration with the Ukrainian government which persecutes Orthodox Christians.
Plus the ROC was founded in one of the parishes that the Ecumenical Patriarch seeks to remove from ROC jurisdiction
It's absolutely ridiculous.
You could even argue that the patriarchates could be like, somehow reflections of their countries or something, but Antioch and Constantinople are in the same country (even though Syria claims Antioch too), and the Ecumenical Patriarch also wants ROCOR (ROC Outside of Russia) to maintain all of the former Imperial possessions like Alaska.
Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew doesn't really do anything to help the other Orthodox churches or anything, and I get that, but he should stop infighting with Russia and start turning his attention towards the Turkish threat.
@Nuke You do realize a Soviet appointed bishop of the Russian Orthodox Church gave the OCA autonomy in the 1970's. The Patriarch of Russia has always wanted to be above the Partriach of Constantinople. Also, the ROC Out side of Russia was only established after the Russian Revolution.
As for Patriarch Bartholomew not wanting to help other churches, most churches have a high degree of autonomy from Constantinople.
@Ghawk ROCOR was established at the collapse of the Russian Empire by emigre who sought to prevent Soviet influence from affecting the rest of the Church. It is true that Patriarch Alexius I of Moscow approved a decision, but Russian Orthodox faithful in America merely sought his consent. It wasn't like the Commies actually took over the Church or anything.
Also, if you want to force the Russian Orthodox to withdraw from Ukraine and Crimea, you better be willing to take care of your mess--not just willing to destroy the Church in Ukraine.
The Russian Orthodox Church is going to be where ever there is a Russian community that it can serve.
I have seen ROC churches in Serbia, so if that is a demand, that is stupid.
Yeah, they want them to give up all of their churches in Ukraine and Crimea and give them to a new organization.
Orthodox in Ukraine atm are basically persecuted because the Ukrainian Government prefers Catholics and non-canonical Orthodox churches; only 10% of Ukraine is actually Orthodox at this point, and it's believed that it's even lower now.
Also, I'm not sure how the UOC is getting money atm, but I think they're probably not going to be able to pay for church maintenance if this goes through.
AFAIK Constantinople hasn't even made any statements of opposition to the Ukrainian government's opposition to the Orthodox church.
@AvocadoToast are you voting?
of course!
should get my mail in next month
if not I can still show up to the pollbooth for a provisional
Good man
and that said
hi everyone
checking in from california
Brown people are running town halls in Sweden
https://youtu.be/e7l8IuHeuC0
Brown lady says don;t limit migration to white countries, who would have thought!
https://youtu.be/iAHoBq1IH5U
Leftists choose a NIGGER for beauty queen in Finland
All leftists should be exterminated
https://youtu.be/YsWozzMrN-4
Check out the new Europe:
https://youtu.be/2HQ8DEAsW7g
I'm not sure where to meta-post, so I'll do it here: So do you guys actually do anything? All I see is people posting polls and then calling them fake. Why not make dedicated channels for operations. There are people here doing stuff online and IRL, but this discord is really unorganized. Why not start a meme campaign and agree to post it once a day on /pol/, twitter, or a subreddit? E-activism seems better than just analysis. I see so much autistic determination here, but it seems like it's not being utilized.
@Amsel good idea, we were pushing ops months ago, but it seems a lot of people are focused IRL
I am doing stuff online as well, on my own time
What are your ideas for OPs
and let me stress the idea - we ARE doing things
don't let the lack of operations-discussions here fool you
@Amsel by the way, one reason why this Discord isn't so organized is because quite a few seem averse to being ordered around
that's going to change
When your Anti Aircraft so bad you shoot down your allies plane in stead of your enemy lel
In an hour I will be heading to my local Masonic Lodge to formally be sworn in as a freemason.
Faggot
enjoy hell
I will.
Just a reminder that the guy who started the anti-mason party went missing.
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John McCain's father and grandfather were freemasons.
What the fuck?
Masons
(((Masons)))
You say these things like it helps your case
George Washington was a freemason.
Lewis and Clark were also freemasons.
reminder that if the Democrats take the House I will be making @๐ฆ ๐๐ช๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ ๐๐๐ฎ ๐ฆ #5916 @๐Boo-ton๐ and zakattack04 the admins
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@Deleted User ๐๐ช๐ฐ๐ต๐ฎ ๐๐๐ฎ ๐ฆ #5916
I only heard about the whole Syria-Russia thing in school today. Anybody think its going to get out of hand?
fuck eagle's impossible to tag username
tbh I figured the country that would somehow start WWIII would be Israel. Not saying it will come to that but I wouldn't be very surprised.
ME AND ZAK AND BUTTON ADMINS? THE DREAM TEAM.
@Jaxob well, the attack of the Russian surveillance jet was caused by Israel so no surprise there.
Reminds me of USS Liberty.
wow. I almost forgot about Liberty.
granted I wasn't alive then but you just refreshed my memory
Wasnโt there something on it actually being a Syrian plane that shot down the Russians?
I really want Russia to obliterate Israel honestly.
A plague on this earth for far too long. Impractical, I know, but I am sick of their shit
I feel like the whole โSyria was the real culpritโ thing is a cover
I honestly don't know too much about it. Only that 14 men were killed on the plane. More than enough to piss off the Russians.
I hope it doesn't escalate.
yeah I don't want a scenario where the US intervenes in Israel to stop the Russians
Especially with Trump negotiating with Putin and even with Kim Jong Un. I know the dude is pretty aggressive but I seriously doubt he wants a war.
it takes apparently 14 days to delete an account if you request it to be deleted @FLanon , just in case you were wondering why mine took so long
๐ | **KOOPDOG25 leveled up!**
more satanic than the pentagram tbh
Owo
@FLanon so what does a vote pursuader do, just pursuade more red votes right?
Pretty much
sounds good
People with verified voter should do the same
We are attempting to get a sort of multiplier effect, everyone convinces like 5 people near them, we could net thousands of votes
If we could find ways to influence people to influence others, it becomes exponential
Yep.
300 people in this server convince 5 people to vote - > 1500. Repeat the process with those new people. - >7500. Them 37,500.
You get them to convince the ones close to them to vote as well, and get a chain reaction going, you could see hardcore potential.
Then 187500
Etc
Much more than that if you do that via campaigning
Yep
GOP got 44,827,441 votes in 2010
I think we'll even exceed that this year
trouble is, the democrats will definitely be having super high turnout as well
yep
how tf do you people know moderates?
I don't know a single fucking moderate
everyone around me is either already voting red or is a leftist
Cause you live in South Dakota, which is a Deep Red State
eh, I live in a city full of native americans and other leftist scum though
we have a surprising amount of blue collar dems it seems too
>tfw I am officially a freemason.
<:smugpepe:422445820034416648>
Remember what happens when you try start an anti-masonic party. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Morgan_(anti-Mason)
whats a freemason
16 sir
join vc and I'll explain
aye sir
I do but id prefer not to talk sir
is it still around?
haha
i see
my DP?
Oh
That would be Jerome Adams, sir
he is a Vice Admiral in the USPHS, and the Surgeon General
I hope to one day work as a PHS officer
No, medics are militarized and trained in arms
the public health service is a uniformed service but not military
PHS officers are typically deployed in times of catastrophe
for example hurricane Katrina
Well, I would work for a certain dept overseen by the USPHS
indian health, the CDC, the FDA, etc
most likely some kind of laboratory work in the CDC, considering half of all new officers are put there
Goodbye gentlemen
I am in the most woke history class. My history professor said this isn't a bashing class.
No
@ThatRightWingFish why not
What have you done?
what needs to be done
You haven't done anything stop begging for roles
wtf
im not
im asking if i can become a freemason because I think I hold the same ideals as they do, and they frankly seem very cool
LOL
dear god
Such as?
my friend, have you done any research whatsoever into historical freemasonry?
Protocommunism emerged through freemasonry.
Jews have used masonic lodges for years as launching pads for their perverse machinations.
Freemasonry is mortal sin.
^
Secrecy is explicitly and inarguably a non-Christian pursuit.
But even from a secular and purely political point of view, masonry has been a force for subversion and evil for centuries.
Yes, there are certainly far better fraternal organizations if you're looking for that sort of thing than the freemasons
Freemasonry is about Communism.
oh gawd
passive-aggressive fag
Oh god the incessant polls have cometh
I think maybe a rematch with tansi would be a fun idea if I get the time
I like how Lex forgets the fact that freemasons are a Christian only group.
Also Califags are not welcomed into the lodges.
I'm sure
it's secretive for a very good reason I bet right
@FLanon How does it make you feel that a freemason made your state relevant?
We drove past a Masonic lodge once and I never wanted to burn down a building more in my life
Can you shut up
You are such a faggot
No you
"Christian only group"
you fucking idiot
no, it's not
Then join a lodge.
it simply requires you believe in a creator
in the vast majority of cases
There is more to it.
<:brainletwojak:422441696899629057> <:brainletwojak:422441696899629057> <:brainletwojak:422441696899629057>
It is done in the ceremonies.
in the "Christian" masonic lodges, they've still historically been fronts for non-Christian sacraments and social subversion
yes those 100% christian ceremonies
what do you think those symbols represent, fool?
Deez nuts
That is what they represent.
i even told you what some of the symbols represented
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PEE PEE HA HA
>forgets that the Pentagram was used as a Christian symbol for the longest time.
Hell, even Ethiopia has one in their flag.
freemasonry is mostly influenced by christian thinking i believe
I'm not talking about the Pentagram.
do you believe people are daft enough not to know what it represents in modern society
oh my god
People are dumb enough to believe what is on the internet.
they are a secret group too
is that anti-christian?
What the hell do neocons and masons have in common?
No I'm sure when you're drawing pentagrams with the boys in the lodge it's because of the christian connotation
I'm sure
Proud Boys are an Aussie group.
no they are not
They have completely different meanings, purposes, and ideologies
Lol the proud boys are anything but secret or esoteric
founded by Gavin Mcinnes
They're pompous morons led by a sodomite
Secrecy of an organisational kind is generally shunned and is sinful BUT the intention and practices of the organisation are more important.
It's not a condemnation of every fraternal organization
Protocommunism, secularism, Kabbalistic ritual, occultism all grew out of the Masonic movement.
proof
"proof"
You
It depends on what you mean by the "freemasons".
<@!401189110213246976> why don't you join in this debate
@Cuckiller To make men closer to God.
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There's a hierarchy. The vast majority of the lower plebs don't know the meaning of the rituals they perform or the significance of those at the apex.
And there are different masonic orders.
There's Scottish Rite freemasonry, Rosicrucian masonry, Royal Order of Scotland.
Just disregard that the Shriners run a few charitable hospitals.
So did the Mafia.
yes, people do nice things so ignore everything else
lets talk exclusively about scottish right since its the most common in USA
Scottish is hardcore Christian.
This is the protocommunist group that grew out of the Masonic tradition.
k
I doubt any of you have ever had any exposure to freemasonry, so until you do I don't really care what you say.
From what I can say (I took an oath to not speak about a lot of things) it upholds Christian values and is very charitable in nature.
<@!486959191785865216> I was just made one yesterday.
Taking oaths too.
I took tutoring lessons from them when I was a kid.
from what you can say
And other than that?
Do you know how they make sure that you don't expose more elite dogma?
I mean come on
As you climb the ranks?
How do you think they maintain secrecy, Ghawk?
And tell me: what happens when people disclose this dogma?
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