When is the racism from the other side gonna be addressed?

Most of these mobs are just trolls. They're here to get a rise out of people - to make them upset and say even more stupid shit

Never

It's literally never going to be addressed. Not in our lifetimes.

That, unfortunately, is the game we're in. We didn't get to pick the rules, but we *do* get to choose how we respond.

Havent white people condemed all racism that has been exposed publicly?

I think they have ..loud and clear... penny sparrow... vicky momberg

over and above what wass necessary

so this is just bs... as is that tweet

It's not a one-time thing though

For as long as there are people walking around who will do stupid shit, other people have to be around to deal with the mess

There will be another 20 Adams in the next year, specially leading up to elections when the twitter mobs will do whatever they can to make noise

What I have noticed is a trend of people leaving SA, then once in the safety of another country, they become trolls on smedia and stoke the flames.

Yeah we could do with less of that @AcidOverride

We will always have fewer voices, we are a minority. We should speak up on racism but in the same breath understand that we have no control over what people say and do... as a side note, any speech that offends, just shows how weak people are in themselves. If you are offended by someones words, or a word, you should be able to brush it off, how can words/word have so much power over you?

Basically saying "I'm ok now, fuck you all that are still there"

I think you are blind...
If you play nice and hand over your land and be a good boy and dont use the k word ... things will change...???
the intense hatred and racism displayed on social media and indeed by political leaders will evaporate
If it is not adam it will be something else

Those aren't all the same thing

and 4.5m people cannot all be adam...

Refusing to say the k-word is not like giving the keys to your house to someone

It's not even an admission of guilt, it's just the decent thing to do

Fight to the death for your land if you need to, but do it without saying this one single specific word that most people don't want to hear, and that doesn't need to be said in the first place

Personally, I don't like the word, but I also don't like the word Dagga. Both offend me 😉

ANC taking WHITE land is not racist... calling us settlers and colonialist and murders and thieves is not racist

None of that is a justification for your actions though

"They raped so now I can rape"

Is that the hill you're going to die on?

The entire point is to be a *better* person. To lead by example

@lambdalizard 🌈🐲 This is true, when you teach kids, you have to be the example

Yup

And it's not like you're giving anything up

It's not like refusing to say/tolerate the k-word means you give up the right to vote, or own property

No racial slur is integral to the functioning of society

all civilised people will agree with you .. no racial slurs are necessary...

But neither are

This is exactly the narrative that the BLF and EFF love .... White racism and white people want to talk about black racism....

I'd rather challenge them on their ideas

"Ok so you've taken the land and driven white people into the sea - now what?"

then it is mislabelled as defense of white racism

EWC
exclusion from the workplace due to the color of your skin
Brutal farm murders - slapped down when you protest publicly
leaders calling for our slaughter
wanton destruction of buses trains schools etc
economic destruction of SA

But Ya .. youre right... the kword is causing all of this mess

All real problems, none of them helped by white people continuing to use the k-word

Why is it so important to you that you're allowed to say it @Rox ?

@Rox you have totally missed my point

either deliberately, or because you really don't see it

@lambdalizard 🌈🐲 You are allowed to say it. 😉

Bear the history in mind too. The Zulus lost the Anglo-Zulu war, were then systematically removed from their land, forced into menial labor with poor education, and were then liberated by the ANC - a party that has no ideas and no plan, and has just made things worse over the last 25 years

From their point of view, whites still have everything *and* continue to use racial slurs

I'd be mad, myself, if the situation were reversed

It's even more maddening, I'm sure, that there's no word they can come up with for "white people" that's degrading

Read up.. I dont say it... and dont condone it.. or people who do
But in the grand scheme of things i doubt that is the REAL problem here..
Racism exists against whites too ... beyond just feeling offended... some of which is actual legislation...
Causing white people to flee from this country...

My point is... until this is addressed on BOTH sides... this will continue

And white people can address it right the fuck now by deciding to be conscious of the words they use

Or just one word in particular

It's not going to solve everything, but it *is* a step in the right direction. One that should have been taken decades ago.

I think it wass taken decades ago which is why there is a huge outcry when it is used..
and realistically there is only an outcry once a year or so ... as it is not a commonplace thing..
Where as the other racism is daily and considered normal...

and nothing is said

Really? 😂

We're literally on a discord right now that exists because of that

I dont see it making headlines the way adam, penny sparrow, vicky momberg does...
I dont see it trending

One law for all...

Less than 20% of the country is on Twitter, and less than 5% are active

Don't take twitter trends as a reflection of what's actually happening

The media machine loves sensationalist topics, they drive attention and sell ads

Media ... not just twitter

but why only the white racist ?

this video was posted on social media

If there were no white racists, there would be nothing to report

where there is far worse and far more often DAILY

Yes, the game is unfair. Complaining about it won't change that fact.

Ummm.. actually historically things only changed when people complained and said enough

Consider the context though

They're not wrong when they point out that white people are 8% of the population but are disproportionately wealthy, better-educated, and have more opportunities

Now we're gonna complain because we don't like the news we see?

If it bothers you, don't read it

If you keep seeing racist shit on social media, maybe get off social media

It comes from the top down... if the leaders of society are perpetuating racism it stands to reason that the masses will follow
Avoiding social media or Malemas twitter page doesnt change a thing.. head in the sand...
As long as there are race based laws and EWC ...it will continue...
perhaps a better government who grows the economy... creates jobs and gives real economic empowerment will change things must faster on both sides than censoring speech and some idiots who are nobodies in real life...

the issue with black twitter is the fact that a lot of POC agree with other POC just be relevant.

but how is it they are allowed to say the things they do and its cool...

Because there's 40 million of them and 5 million of us

so endless placation is the answer?

If the situation were reversed (like it is in the US), the majority would say whatever the fuck they wanted about the minority (and do)

It sucks, it's unprincipled and unconstitutional, but that's the situation we're in

this was not what Mandela preached

Unfortunately he's not god

some are equal and others are more equal

We cant solve this... I think the problems here are way more complex ..
The k word and the settler rhetoric are symptoms not the causes of it all

@Rox i agree they are symptoms

All I want to do is braai!!!

@MikeyMike its sad....i just want to live life of equally opportunity, make a little money, enjoy my biltong and game

Exactly

same here

That is why I try really hard to just stay out of shit but then the white ou goes and does the dumbest thing known in SA and Lindsay Dooskop goes on like he does and my blood just boils and I loose all hope.

Just make the decision to maybe pack up and leave easier but I love my country and I love the diverse cultures and WANT it to be the place we all believe it cab be, but, I don't think we will see it in our life time.

Where would you go?

lol, Australia 🤦

We have many friends and family over there so it is the easiest most viable option

Ya I have family in Brisbane

https://twitter.com/Eusebius/status/1032171583748689920

Wont change the fact that the family will be targeted by association simply because EFF and BLF twats dont care. This guy royally screwed up and it play right into the hands of ANC, EFF, BLF. Almost like it was planned 🤔

@MikeyMike Yea, I already saw a post that identified his wife and where she works....

You see and thats the kak. These dick heads dont think. When they spew that K word with out thinking, they dont realise that in the current climate, you putting family, friends, collegues all in the firing line. Now say I walk along, I see his wife being assulted by whoever and I go to intervene and help, most likey I will be labeled a racist and the same shit will happen to me.

Oz is getting a bit more difficult to get into. Change in points, skills, ages, visa options as well as lengthy visa processing times.

juss this Adam cunt, has caused a lot of damage for us....black twitter labeling every white a racist now....eish

Has black twitter ever been any different?

no but its getting out of hand, like the 'we want the land back' posts. is everywhere on every topic even unrelated ones....you cant say anything now 'because we are protecting one of our own'....how the hell is not oppression

I have to imagine that he was aware of the potential consequences of his actions, but this escalation to his family is scary. MSM will say nothing and outliers who decry it will be labelled as defenders

Nike kept its shops closed today and EFF is still threatening to "H&M" them..

I think Cattle Baron pulled their contract with the business?

So all at once, Adam has been fired, will lose his shares, and the company (who is innocent in this) is already losing contracts

all of them did

ouch

Hopefully they re-engage when this blows over

and im sure Nike will fire his wife too

also eff laid criminal charges

of course 🙄

https://www.algoafm.co.za/article/domestic/96285/government-prepared-to-expropriate-urban-land-ramaphosa?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Urban land too...

And this is the start.. I seriously wonder where this ends

Response to Adam Whatever

@AcidOverride classic 😄

Worth noting the different responses - some people are apoplectic with outrage about the video, and some people are just mocking it

I'd rather have the mocking honestly

It is really nice to see a handful of people pointing out the hypocrisy and double standards ..

messed coffee on my keyboard when I read Jerms POEPENHOLEN tweet... Brilliant!!! 😂

Hilarious!! Pieter Howes is such a self virtuous prick tho!

OMG I wanted to tweet that he should put down his crack pipe and walk away...

No point with him I’m afraid. Many have tried. My only satisfaction is that the axe will be just as sharp for him as it will be for us and the fool doesn’t even realise it

hahaha look how Rama tries to sound clever.....but listen between the lines....foreign investors don't want to invest in SA, now he might not say it directly but one can conclude that it is clear we have lost all foreign investor confidence :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzdG5ibW-Js

but this is speculation....so whats the alternative....that Rama is actually a man of his word, and this comes back to my opinion from yesterday, that if Rama and the ANC really stick to their promises this time, like the Thabo gov, then we will get out of this shit hole and all will be well

https://youtu.be/Xfptagpyc2E

I hop Jerm will forgive me for tagging @everyone, but this is HUGE!

ooooh the left aren't going to like this at all!! in your face mofo's

aah music to my ears:
“President Trump should warn the South African government that if South Africa’s Constitution is amended to allow for expropriation without compensation, South Africa will be suspended from the African Growth and Opportunity Act (AGOA), as Zimbabwe had been,”