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tone is lost in text....
I forgot what it feels like to work since discord
not trying to be rude
I need to get back. I've done my quota of Discord for the week. haha
@Tom_Servo I know what you're saying. I speak better verbally. Watch my interview with Renaldo and you will see how I speak. I hate text.
Friends, please debate. This is why we are in this chat room. Remember that we're on the same side, albeit a few minor differences here and there.
We're like light going through a prism. We all slot into different beams of light, but all on the same side.
can one of you social media famous guys run a poll on who should be NPA, Dali or Thuli
I should be
a quick hit and run.
Do you think the media are empowering Afriforum in the same way they did Julius Malema ?
Even though they are being fairly one sided and critical - is the long term effect going to be an increase in support and donations?
Ultimately should Afriforum be wewlcoming this, and perhaps even leaning into it?
remember initial reporting on JM was very negative, only softened more recently
to me it feels the media criticizes Afrifrom a lot (in some cases even plays with words to make them look bad), so not sure how that empowers them?
i dont see that as empowering
interesting watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdlD-Q9wmfY
Stream of Consciousness: Tonight I interview the author K.M. Breakey about his works, specifically his recent book, "Never, Never and Never Again". We will also be discussing the broad topic of crime in South Africa.
Hope to see everyone there!
Tune in @ 20:00 CAT / 18:00 GMT / 14:00 EST
https://youtu.be/1N7cBwg89AQ
Any thoughts?
How is this not racist?
and so it begins
Sits on top of the Makhado coal rift
First two farms on the list have been approached by the ANC.
But apparently, there is no list.
and what now? Its starts with the farms
I feel like a jew in Berlin... How bad does it have to get before we actually panic..?
They are expropriating land without compensation!!! They are actually doing it
Its pure insanity everyday .. we have just got used to it
Necklacing kids.. skinning elephants alive.. murder.. rape.. torture.. burning everything
Just another day...
I mean technically
That's not wrong
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Registering a new political party requires 500 registered voters and a token registration fee
The Nothing Left Party
NLP
Contesting an election is a different story.
The IEC requires a deposit, the amount varying based on how many wards, municipalities and metros you target
To contest everything in SA will require a deposit of around R480'000
If you win, your deposit's refunded. If not, tough luck.
Lets start small with Cape Town ๐
Those prices are from the 2016 elections, but I haven't seen any announcements about a big change to these policies yet
A lot of smaller parties are unhappy about these costs, obviously
I'll contribute 10k
You can establish a brand, governance structure, constitution, and the operational framework long before you actually register at the IEC
And you can use that structure to fundraise
You'll probably get better ROI on using seed money to market and solicit further donations
Fund raise via crypto ๐
@lambdalizard ๐๐ฒ Why don't you become a patron of mine? It's very cheap (as others here will tell you) and you will helping me fight the good fight. I also have inside info on various matters, such as the political party topic you're discussing. ๐
@Jerm He is ๐
These online handles get the better of me every time. ๐
No colour on the names?
No categories?
did you guys see this shit
time for cyber war bring these bais mother fuckers down
@Rendier was this good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D36u4j1l3hc
or am i going to get upset?
Already Triggered ๐
hahaha i am honestly to scared to watch it. as i know how these guys think...very rationally you know
I tried. Didnโt last long. Lindsayโs a moron
Listen Propaly
i'm pushing through...wanted to stop after only 5 mins when he says we are all racists
@Jerm I prefer not to use my real name in these forums, but yes, I'm already a patron
I was Patron #25 I think
well done @Rendier with your lindsay debate....that must have been the toughest debate, as it was tough listening to it.
well not that it was a debate because he mostly spoke....so more like an interview
Ouch
This MiWay thing is going sideways fast
It is! To be honest, like Jerm said in a tweet earlier, the freemarket will punish speech
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oof
It was just a matter of time
That feeling when the leader of your anti-sexual-assault moral crusade paid 380k to cover up her sexual activities with a 17-year old
It's been a bad week for #MeToo ๐
Imagine they spent their time and money on real movements
twitter is much easier
and "mainstream"
looks like MiWay is going to feel the rage now haha
I see the left called in some cavalry....
https://twitter.com/wreccles/status/1031643472959348742
This girl is delusional.
Lindsay Dooskop has no issue with a black man raping a white women and this chick agrees, yet calls RG the racist. What a way to stand up with your fellow females against any form of abuse!!
i couldn't agree more, her debate with Willem was hilarious as she scurried around to backup her statements with facts. she has no clue what she is talking about, just wants to be relevant.
land expropriation is probably thee most best way to solve a lot of problems....if done right....
Steenhuisen....LOL
@MikeyMike yeah i love steenhuisen, he really is our hero in disguise in parliament
@Roovdwalt I honestly do believe that it is time for a Meteor to reboot earth.
@MikeyMike , this is becoming so mainstream, its hardly cringe worthy anymore.
Eventually someone will say the emperor has no clothes and this crap will end because it is beyond ridiculous..
BTW Girls dont pee out of their vagina.. they have 2 holes so the vagina is not even the front hole..
Anyone with basic understanding of anatomy knows that
I doubt they are referring to the "pee hole" though hahaha... They are making this the new normal, at this rate, I do not want to know what the abnormal will be
we are the abnormal... the ones who say its ridiculous
I am sure we are not in the minority though
Revolution?
EFF are a bunch of clowns
I agree, along with BLF they are all a joke, but, they have enough followers that believe all the shit both parties regurgitate which is worrying.
ya and what revolution ae they dressing up for?
I didnt get an invite to the revolution
@MikeyMike they do have enough followers, don;t get me wrong, I don't under estimate them...
It is a scary thought. 1000's of them running around thinking the way this Lindsay character thinks.
me either.. I think they are the real threat
and no education.. dire poverty.. nothing to lose..
Thats why we should prepare for their revolution, by arming ourselves
@Roovdwalt Agree, it makes me sick to my stomach thinking what may happen to my wife and 8yr old daughter if these fuckers wake up REALLY pissed off one day.
I think that day will come.. they will lose patience waiting for the land and for the ANC to deliver
War here seems inevitable...
There is no way the EWC can end well with both sides happy
Yip
Farm murders can tell you a lot... no empathy.. no pity
They are savages!!! We should be teaching our wives and children how to defend themselves with firearms... They need to become comfortable with it and know how to use them safely and efficiently
Emigrate or fight seem the 2 options... I cant think of another
Just waiting to see if cool heads will prevail and this shit will stop.. but I cant see how
The best would be to head to the Northern Cape, away from the non sense if something goes down.... we are only strong in numbers
ya but stay off the highways
a few burning tyres and 100 revolutionaries and youre screwed
If my life or my family is in danger, I RAM who ever is in my way, at that point human life comes second to my life
i am slowly but surely starting to believe war won't breakout
yeah? do tell
oky this is just my opinion:
please.. give me hope
two things that Rama says:
1. EWC would create jobs, now taking into account that some of the EWC farms or probably all of them have minerals but time would tell. If this is true ANC can create thousands upon thousands of jobs through mining. countless surveys from respectable institutions (i.e IRR) have shown people want work not land. its just a handful that are singing the land issue kak and they will be controlled by the masses when Rama delivers on his promises, and if he does he EWC would be the biggest success story the ANC can tell as it would actually up the economy....who loses out of this?....the farmers that won't be compensated. other land that will be EWC will be urban vacant land...that will be expropriated in silence because it won't bother people as it won't affect us, only the owner of said land.
2. He is very very clear that illegal land grabs will be dealt with, so should the ANC give green light to EWC and people start grabbing land, i believe the ANC would intervene. why do i believe this? because the ANC won't destroy their only golden egg they have and illegal land grabs will lead to civil war and the ANC can't afford that.
so in my opinion, this whole EWC thing is a truth and a lie, i dont think they will expropriate all the land only some in order to boost the mining industry, the rest they will down scale commercial farmers limiting their access to only a certain amount of 'ownable' land and then giving/selling the rest to the state and then give that to our growing black farmers.
1. why arent they stopping the land invasions now?
2. what about food? They said EWC 80%
3. what about the masses who want a revolution and have been promised wealth
4. Importantly what about the Farmers.. they wont hand over
5. They are almost bankrupt and taking loans.. they cant even run SAA ..where is the money for all of this and the management?
6. The clause refers to property not just land.. do you trust the ANC would stop at farms?
Sorry @Robzombie I dont think so.. It sounds fabulous and I wish it were true
There is massive friction between the different groups.. Some even think this is not about land..
The current mining industry is seeing its ass cos of teh regulations and unions.. this is not a solution to any problems..
I honestly pray you are right and that I am just a paranoid nut
We need to be paranoid, it keeps us alert. @Robzombie If it works like that then awesome, but seeing how anything the ANC touches just falls into a pool of corruption, I have no hope. Then we still need to deal with EFF and BLF that WANT what THEY want and that is the demise of white people, period. Cyril can pull all the magic he wants, if EFF and BLF don't get what they want they WILL start K@K, then it makes no difference as it will all go downhill from there. But as Rox said, We pray you right.
Another reason I am sceptical is the way this EWC is being handled.. all secrecy and cloak and dagger bs
Rama knows the people are panicking.. the land bank (and I am sure the others) are panicking..
Farmers are organising but he says nothing to allay anyones fears.. and Julius Malema gets ever bolder
Emigration is sky rocketing.. taking skills and capital out ... Surely as a "good leader" he would share some of his plan
instead he parades his new black farmers on twitter
unfortunately i cannot disagree with you....that's why i said slowly but surely. from a top level that is my opinion.....but looking at all the other factors then yeah my opinion becomes irrelevant, because i know for a fact the boere are not going to back down, plans have already been formulated, they are just waiting to see what the govs direction is.
maybe i still have an ounce of trust in them and cannot fathom the fact that they would destroy their only golden egg....i mean are they really that dumb
Have they not destroyed a large part of what they inherited in 94? This entire country was a massive golden egg...
The goodwill .. the rainbow nation that everyone bought into ... all that is gone.. racism is rife and tolerated..
The economy... lets not mention SAA ESKOM PRASA etc...
Their own ANC.. They backed Zuma for how many years? And Mabuza is vice president
Today in Cape Town trains are burning again.. but hey at least no riot... at least No new invasions that we know of..
At least...The squatter camp 10 mins from me in not burning tyres in the road and throwing bricks at cars..
Im tired of being an "at least" person...
Many people are getting tired, from both sides and at some point either side will boil over
do yourselves a favour and buy this book:
what does he say?
okay will check it out
only one white guy....where are the colloureds and indians???
https://africa.cgtn.com/2018/08/17/south-african-students-granted-bursaries-to-study-in-china/
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So Eusebius gives 3 examples of why white privilege is still a thing:
> Single-digit unemployment
> Less likely to be discriminated against when trying to find a home
> Presumption of competence when looking for a new job
(Before he shat all over the call, tbh, I have to agree with Stephanie.)
In all 3 examples he's applying identity politics, and defining white people by their race group, and not their individual situation
It doesn't help an unemployed person to tell them "unemployment is so low in your group, you should be grateful". If they're unemployed, then to them, they're 100% unemployed and group stats don't change that.
Discrimination when finding a home: I've seen this in action myself, and it's still a real thing, but it's not nearly as widespread. The discrimination against white-owned businesses for government work is far more prevalent, far more damaging, and Matt called that out correctly.
Same with the presumption of competence. That's an inter-individual thing - you and the employer. Everybody taking a risk will want some assurance that their bet is not just money down the drain, and that shows in hiring practices. Black employers will prefer black employees that look/sound/speak/think like them. That's not a privilege thing, that's just how people operate.
And then at 11:10 Stephanie loses the plot by telling the army-conscripted guy he didn't suffer
"President Cyril Ramaphosa has warned that South Africa will become unstable if the state does not expropriate land without compensation." ~ lolwut?
Countries that become unstable have poor leadership... just saying
Doesnt matter what happens it will become unstable. Whe expropriation goes forwards, somewhere it is going to piss off the wrong farmers and if it doesnt go ahead it will piss off EFF and if it takes to long to happen then BLF are going to shit thier nappies full.
does anyone know who is funding BLF?
No idea, but pretty sure the guptas are involved
ooh yeah i remember now from Rendier's interview with him
hahaha look at this white boy playing victim:
https://twitter.com/NickolausBauer/status/1032113450628128768
This Adam chop just set back discourse about a year.... we had turned a corner
did we really? I see much worse extreme racism on Twitter..
Julius not calling for the slaughter of whites.. yet is not worse than the K word?
@Rox not the point right now.
The overall narrative was starting to shift and people were seeing through Julius, and a lot of people were starting to see EWC for what it was etc...
This oke going viral undoes a lot of that
its like watching american history x in real life
no @Rox it is not. calling the slaughter of whites is how we will restitute the wrongs of the past
@Tom_Servo couldn't agree more
guys like this is a massive part of the reason why dissenting voices are dismissed as racists. We do need to clean house.
plays into the BLF and EFF narrative
so peeved right now.
Now a guy like Nick Bauer gets to virtue signal and claim to speak for all whites. I have never kept quiet if someone has used a slur in front of me.... Many braai's cut short because of these types of arguments, and some friendships ended over it.
Just because he was too cowardly to say something he thinks all whites are.
My point is that there is just as much racism if not worse from the other side but they are never called out on it
One idiot posts a video and suddenly er are all racists or complicit .. cos "we said nothing"
By that same reasoning then we are all guilty of corruption and fraud beacuse we had Jacob Zuma as a president
@Rox I get your point, it is just not relevant right now. It is like being pulled over for speeding and then complaining that other people are also speeding
there is a double standard in reaction and reporting on racism, but this conversation can't happen on the back of this.
But it is also like saying one guy speeds .. you all need to get tickets
I starting seeing the conversation around double standards happening in earnest, but now it will just be dismissed as whataboutism
WHat has the guy who is speeding got to do with me.. Ive never met the dude... I dont know him
I saw tweets this morning saying kill 5000 whites for this ...or 5m would be better etc...
Is that response not far far worse than the actual crime
@Rox all valid points and conversations that need to happen, but can't happen (or aren't productive) in the immediate wake of this.... Just dealing in reality
I do not condone what he did or said.. in my opinion he is an idiot for doing that in this day and age and especially now with tensions so high
But I do think there is def a double standard that needs to be addressed
The real issue is that people try using social media platforms as extensions of real-world conversations, when they really should be thinking more like publishers and brands
I don't know what possessed Adam to make that video, but there was really no reason to do it, and then to upload it
@Tom_Servo I agree, EFF and BLF get excited when things like this happen. It just goes to show that we need to be careful and think before we speak, especially on camera. There is no reason to use the K word and if we want to be taken seriously, we need to be the bigger person and not do a tit for tat with racists like EFF and BLF
If he thought about the impact of his words for more than half a second he might have cut that piece out, and we'd not even know his name
This is one set of rules for one people and another for the other...
How can a society that wants unity expect this to have a good result..
No, it's common sense
Yes he is extremely stupid
It's one word. Just don't say the word.
You can say a thousand other words that mean the same thing
but that doesnt make us all guilty as the tweet posted above implies
@lambdalizard ๐๐ฒ Or you can not be racist instead
That's impossible nowadays @Tom_Servo
Anyone who doesn't like you for any reason will label you racist
but they will be wrong
And you can't control what people say about you, but you *can* control what you say
if I regularly use slurs, then they will be right
truth matters
or ever use slurs
It is a double standard, but why give the EFF and BLF more ammo against us? It is stupid
the double standard can only be addressed if we have a clean house
Case in point.. the blf dude told renaldo he condones white women being raped (I am a white woman)
And this is just cool... no one says a thing.. he idolises some racist criminal and its all cool...
But one white idiot says something vulgar and SA goes insane... see the double standard...
you can't go to the trial of a rapist where there is video evidence of the rape and start talking about all the false accusations of rape that are out there
this oke undone some of the headway that was being made
The video is out there on renaldos channel
Unfortunately it is bigger news to chase the white dude... when they should BOTH be in trouble
@Rox you are right, definitely a double standard. But like @lambdalizard ๐๐ฒ said, we can control what we say and say the same thing without using a word we know will start a pushback
If it is not a word from adam... it will be a tshirt from H&M ...
The mindset must change
Don't feed the trolls
NO racism against ANY race tolerated
Not henpecking the odd white idiot...
I see racist crap EVERYDAY on social media and there is no outcry...
Put it this way: As a white person, you get to keep your job, your family, your wealth (most of it, depending on how EWC goes), your culture and your identity, if you agree to just not use this one very specific word that 40 million people have decided is a word they don't want to hear
I mean, I'm fine with that
It's really the smallest possible concession to make, deciding to *not* use a racial slur
Even "negro" has some background to it (it's latin for "black", and you can argue on those lines it's not really a slur)
But "kaffir" never meant anything good
So just stop using it. Less space in your brain, less drama in your life
But everyday our culture and identity is eroded... our wealth is eroded with the fabulous economic policies of the gov... our job? Havent heard of BBBEE? Property rights about to be flushed... Are you blind.???? and now we are all tarred with the same brush cos of some idiot..
No Im tired of this shit.. I reject that tweet...
Morning ๐
@Rox no-one disagrees that there is a double standard.... My point is just that this puts that discussion WAY back.
Let me catch up on this wall of text ๐
thats just reality.... you can like it or not like it, but it is reality
So why didn't the k-word die with Mandela then?
There were 10 years of things going relatively well in SA, for most people
"Things are going badly now so I want to hang on to this word" ... why? What does it help?
Is it like Super Mario where every time you say it a coin falls from the sky? ๐
So if we all police each others social media and speech it will magically lead to a better society?
Or are you going to argue that the k-word is part of your culture/identity that is being eroded?
If we stop setting bags of shit on fire, yes, it'll help
No... I dont use that word and DO call out people who use it which is why I refuse to be shamed into some bs white guilt because some asshole says it on social media
So then say that and move on
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