Splitting California into three states?

Yes

http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/20/fall-california-voters-decide-whether-split-state-three/

This is a good run down

I dunno.

The risks are too great. We have too much to lose in comparison to the original Six Californias proposal.

Probably no because of the Senators

Honestly it's going to just become 6 Democratic senators in time.

This one puts it all in 3 states--one is Democratic and the other 2 are swing states at best.

No it is 2 democrate one republican.

Republican for now

They called the South the Republican one.

Which won't be for long.

They could've extended California northward to include San Francisco.

It has to go through congress to pass. Neither party will vote it through. I am voting for it just for the head lines if it passes to be proposed or just adding one more vote to a failed referendum.

Fair.

You really don't think they'll pass anything?

Yeah

Democrats have muh zero bipartisanship with the trump administration and have already expressed their discontent with the prop. And Republicans think it is simply to risky.

The reason for the former is hilarious, the lefts rich and poor would be separated by state boundaries so their tax redistribution would fail.

So it needs to be approved by the US Congress?

Yes--the only state that does not require congressional authorization to split is Texas, according to the treaty with them.

They can split themselves apart to multiply their Senators since they're a country which once held a tremendous amount of territory.

Well then I see nothing to lose by voting for it lol.

it won't pass anyway.

I think I saw it poling at like 27-79 or something like that.

Six Californias was much better.

12 Democratic senators

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Six_Californias.svg/621px-Six_Californias.svg.png

Yeah, anything without the state of Jefferson is a joke.

Purple, would be purple
Blue would be blue
green be blue
yellow blue
Turquoise red
Red red

I think it just sends a message though. Which IMO a good thing to show the rest of the nation

yeah.

What kind of message--a message that you don't want to live in California, I suppose?

That maybe things aren't going all swimmingly and dandy here

I wish Jefferson actually happened

Isnt the 6 californias cutting california up so the Dems are guaranteed to win all 6 californias

giving them 10 more senators

It includes at least one solid red state.

The Democrats were assmad because it was a "Republican gerrymander" too.

Courtesy of /plg/ ^

Gunna get my license and start plastering these all over the place lol

Is she actually a duel citizen?

yes

Dual Israeli/US citizenship is common.

Dual citizenship is illegal in Russia.

I didn't know that second bit.

There's exceptions to Russia's prohibition of dual citizenship but if you outright expatriate to Israel and keep land in the US, you can be in Congress.

Ok republican kitties

Explain this

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raising taxes will just cause people to leave and lower reve-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inbCEpjFEzg

Uhhh

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Guys

Is vaping degenerate?

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I juuled like once

in HS

Vaping is degenerate.

Agreed

@zakattack04 Laffer curve. There's a sweet point where tax can be lowest and revenue can be highest. In most cases, increased tax rates will lead to more revenue.

But yeah, there's a fiscal surplus in California due to Silicon Valley. The state largesse could never be financed without the tech/film industries.

Solid.

California is racked with poverty, unemployment, violence and debt.

I love the European has a better understand of America's political landscape than we do xD

A fiscal surplus =/= healthy economy.

You can have a fiscal surplus with a shite economy.

nah, I'm not a European.

Australian

Oh my bad.

And yeah, I agree.

How is little polling currently?

He's not on most polls

Yeah

(((They're))) doing a good job at killing his early lead he had.

He's out of it now?

no

They're just not putting him on polls

He will be @WildRooHuntingTutorials

Which senator you guys vote for?

we pushing little atm

You guys read this lmfao

https://youtu.be/Cz9WMK240ZQ

Holy shit. Tough choices

Immigration > Social Issues

^

On that topic, I have picked up this to day. I recommend every one read the first 30 pages. http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/CWII.pdf

I'll check it out when I get home.

Probably just gunna make me wish for something that's never going to happen.

Quite the opposite.

@Winston Are you on?

Yes

@zakattack04 what do you need?