Hey Hernan

Socialsim is when the means of production are owned by the workers

Lolno

Look up socialism on wikipedia.

Wikipedia are traitors.

The state owns the means of production in socialism

no

And in Germany all landowners were such with government permission

Nazi Germany did not own the means of production

The state ends up owning, the workers are meant to own it.

^

Socialism the theory is worker ownership, socialism practice is government ownership.

Please tell me all about how German means of productionw as privately owned and operated

Oh wiat, you can't

Because Gestapo

Lol

Ok

If you want Socialism in the US literally kill yourself

^

The Constitution is not to be fucked with

Socialism and the US are incompatible

And /pol/ memes aside

America is an experiment in Liberty.

National Soc in Germany was fucking awful

I don't understand the revisionism saying it was all sunshine and rainbows

The state becomes the distributor and owner of these factories through the fact that nobody will willingly give away their resources to people who are not willing to put the effort in to actually improve their circumstances

Sunshine and rainbows? No.
Better than Weimar? Almost definitely.

companies as an effect merely become a spouting point of socialist and communist propaganda

Fascism/NatSoc were always meant to be transitionary.
An emergency mode for the state that would eventually transition back to a republic.

Makes sense

I'll come back later, there's a little too much autism, even for us.

But seriosuly

Germany under Hitler was prison

Do as we say, obey, or be punished

I don't agree with fascism merely for the fact that it, like communism or any other authoritarian program does not allow for dissent. This by extension could be eventually and incrementally used against the leading population

Germany under Hitler was an unpleasant dictatorship.

I'd only accept an authoritarian government as a means to create a more free, and strong libertarian government.

Even then, I'd be wary.

and effectivly have the tables turned on the leading population, and as a result absolutely destroy it

in either rebellion, civil war, etc

or if the guns and other rights are taken away in time, subjugation

"Those who make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable"

But seriously

The fucking Hitler hero worship stops in thsi discord now

basically that

It's not like Hitler wasn't wrong

We do need to chill out on Stormie stuff as we gain more power.

but his ideals on socialism were in my opinion

Of course he wasn't

Hitler wasn't wrong, but he wasn't right either.

But there is literal Hitler worship

He made clear present and fatal mistakes.

And I'm fucking sick of it because it's all that's ever discussed

then leave voicechat

We get it, a lot of you dudes are unironically natsocs because you're retarded

it's cancer

But I'm fucking sick of it

I stopped going in there because all it is is just cancer memes non stop

post 2008 /b/ tier shit

We can't be Hitler, we can be Andrew Jackson, we can be Bismark, we can be many things.
But until the narrative changes, no organization that is publicly pro hitler will ever be tolerated or accepted.

Check the channel name

Nobody really seems to take the idea of Anti-communism very seriously anyway

And we must be honest.
A perfect leader doesn't lose, an perfect government doesn't kill people.

Evne then

"Communism is bad" was apparently a good enough answer for vetting for some reason

Kek

Anywho

Hop into my channel for natsoc-free discussion if you're inclined

I've had my fill of that bullshit

No different than Antifa, really

>as I listen to Erika on loop

Naw m8

im good ;p

"My dictatorial authoritarian regime is great, yours sucks"

Libertarianism really could have had a shot at recovering, if it werent for the fact that the party was fucking cucked so hard

>Walked around on stage ass naked

Yeah, it's gonna be hard to recover after Johnson

Wait are you fucking kidding me

Who, when

yeah

I fucking swear Johnson was controlled op

some time in september, the libertarians had a rally where someone in their party walked around on their stage ass naked

Jesus

Libertarian national convention.
The head of it stripped naked on stage and did the chicken dance.

Fuck those guys, they were left-libertarians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl3ylFtOius

>iron cross tat

^

this was the first example I saw, forgib me for the social commentary bullshit

in the vid

Then Gary johnson got booed off stage for saying "You should be able to sell meth to children"

Really, the libertarian party basically shat it's pants the entire election election cycle.

Welp

Time to scrap the Libertarian meme and start up the Constitutionalist party.

at 1:44 is when it happens

Classical libertarianism is best libertarianism

It's effectively legal libertarianism with social conservatisim

tisimsims

Meh, social conservatism is still authoritarianist bullshit legislating morality

m8

And humans will just act ethical without legislation or encouragement?

...lol what?

the US was technically classical libertarian all the way up until the creation of the fed in 1913

Don't legislate who I'm allowed to fuck provided they're over 18, how the fuck about that?

That's cool.

Morals are not objective

Then why legislate them?

Hi fellas

you cannot and should not make laws on subjective matters

I never said anything about making moral laws

Well that's what social conservatism is.

no, you're thinking about legal conservatism

The libertarians are being gay again.

or authoritarianism

or whatever

Social conservatism is just stigma

>Just want muh liberty

>Being gay

Social catholicism is just stigmata

Piss off, aussie

for example, someone does something that the public considers damaging to society

they will likely be shunned or ignored

Drink poison

Like what?

ALA japan today

Socrates

don't corrupt the youth and then call our bluff

Japan is a socially conservative environment, probably the last; its legal system also for the most part views people equally with some exceptions

OH then absolutely fuck no

Japan is an example in how to crush the individual

Im not talking about making it "good" to work 20 hours a day

They also scrub their corruption and unsolved cases off the books for the sake of appearances

Fun fact:
Japan and Korea don't list suicide and gang related murder as said things.

Japan is a terrible society to use as an example of anything, literalyl every corner of it is fucked

But they're so harmonious

LOLNO

HAHAHA!

No

Fuck off weeb.

Jej

Yeah, if I walk down the streets of a major city in japan with a strapon I'd get harrassed and berated! How terrible!

Japan barely keeps itself together.

They're so soulcrushed they stop emotionally maturing sometime around age 12-13, and as a rule, interpersonal emotional connections are completely beyond them

>when they think your sarcasm is serious autism

>just anticom things

they fucking work all day, what did you think would happen to them?

Japan's fucked sexually, culturally, work wise, jesus christ.

Im not talking about their work ethics

never was

ONLY YOUUuuuuuuuu

They're also one of the most xenophobic cultures on Earth

so what?

They're a ball of fucked up neurotics holding itself together through sheer insane will is slowly eroding.

Diversity is our strength?

>The average Japanese person

>Capable of much

There's the fucking problem

All the good nipponjin kamikazed

There's a difference between "Let's not let 1 million violent idiots in" and "This 1/64th korean person who has been here for 8th generations is not legally a citizens and deserves to be spit on and treated like an animal"

^

Totes

well I get what you're saying, but who are we to say who should or should not be allowed in their country?

I dind't mean meme xenophobic

I meant literally xenophobic

Well it's clearly not working out well for them

Two bombs

Also ^

That's who we are allowed to say

That doesn't make their country our burden to literally toy with in the legal sense

That's not what anyone is saying red?

and by extension because of that, the genetic sense

And yet we do

"they're xenophobic"

We're not saying "Japan should be like us" we're saying "Let's not be like japan"

^

Why can't we close our borders?

Also totes

We can close our borders.

Who said we can't?

Judges

But an American is an American

"Let's not be like japan"

But we shouldn't treat people nearly identical to us who already live here as non citizens.

Okay here'd the difference

I will recognize an American citizen as such

In Japan you aren't given citizenship if your great great uncle was Korean

You earn it, you earned it

Except you don't ever get to in Japan

Thing is that entry into a country is a privilege

American way

If you aren't 100% pure Japanese you are effectively subhuman

we fucked up with the whole "LOL UR BORN HERE, U CITIZN NOAH XDDD"

I don't give a fuck about an American's ancestry so long as they take up te Constitution as their own

that's still being contested

@Extra Crispy I see your point, a test or trial to get citizenship for all people born in a country would likely strengthen it, but they offer no such opportunities.

I know

Im merely pointing out the issue, nothing more or less

Legal immigrants can have anchor babies imo, illegals not so much

Instead of, "You're Korean, you're worse than a dog," it's, "You think we should mirror Korean social systems in the US? Well, fuck off, we're full."

pretty much

"But that guy who wants to be American, sure, he gets a shot."

yeah, and we really should take a break from immigrants long enough to get our "board culture" back so to speak

Jej

Wat piss sed

Alright, what's everyone's opinion on Hitler?

Speaking of

Meh?

He was a gud boy

I'm gonna create a NatSoc channel for the fashees

once a lot of the bullshit is cut out, immigration is sustainable at the normal level it will be when we vet for intelligence, and don't have gibsmedats or church groups bringing in Somalis in mass groups

My point is that we should only allow in the best of the best. If someone is coming in to change the ways of our society to be that of which they fled from, then they would just end up creating the same issue that had in their previous country here instead

He did a lot of good for Germany, at the cost of Germany. Economic savior, absolutely incompetent war leader.

But doc, deys a refugees

also, we shouldn't always be letting in the best of the best from third world countries

those 'best of the best' should be forced to stay and fix their shit

That

@Extra Crispy Then let's set up a wall around Cali, they invade states

rather than bailing and letting their countries become a future problem for everyone else

It's what they do

@Extra Crispy No one is disagreeing with that. But Japan is one of the shittest "Developed" nations available.

^

Take the middle of the bell curve

Let's just take lots less

KEEEEEK

I like to use the house party analogy to "redpill" (god I hate the term redpill) people on immigration

But reds you're still not getting it I don't think

Everyone's been at a house party where the dude ratio got fucked up

I know

and your chances of getting laid or hooking up DROPPED

it isn't really relevant to the conversation

but I posted it anyway

current immigration means bringing in LOTS OF DUDES

lol

Ah gotcha

Kek

Brb smoke

>tfw never been to a house party

who are also being presented as FUCK THESE HOT FOREIGNERS in the media constantly

And then I'll make anatsoc channel because hooolyyyy fuck am I tired of eharing about how Hitler Brand(tm) Socialism is only real/best socialism

believe me guys, you can get legions of normies on your side once they realize the house party analogy

then show them the immigrants flooding europe and how they're all male

Or how (Ourbrnad) Authoritorianism is good and someone else's is shit, when it's all part of the same shit sandwich

why don't you try and explain it to us then

tell us the analogy

the world is a saaandwiiich

authoritarianism is shit but rght now we need some to fix all this bullshit and hopefully someday we can have a less authoritarian society

Set to shiii-iii-iiit

Secret destroyer

we have too much authoritarianism