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2017-02-28 02:44:26 UTC

Literally who

2017-02-28 02:45:13 UTC

^^

2017-02-28 02:45:14 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2-EoP6h0TWHQwUEL-7TpjQ he went from a libertarian to far-right in response to leftism

2017-02-28 02:45:26 UTC

like molyneaux but he isnt as big

2017-02-28 02:45:29 UTC

>anarchist

2017-02-28 02:45:40 UTC

(((atheism)))

2017-02-28 02:46:46 UTC

he was half responsible for that

2017-02-28 02:46:54 UTC

hes not an anarchist anymore

2017-02-28 02:49:10 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276935978369810432/285966600492941313/image.jpg

2017-02-28 02:49:11 UTC

>mfw anarchists turn other anarchists away

2017-02-28 02:50:30 UTC

>mfw moonman has had eyes this whole time

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276935978369810432/285966936024809493/1486463523534.gif

2017-02-28 02:55:10 UTC

>62 people RSVP'ed within a day for the Southeast meetup
63 I just forgot to fill it out

2017-02-28 02:57:54 UTC

thx fam

2017-02-28 02:59:21 UTC

DELET

2017-02-28 03:00:24 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276935978369810432/285969427714015232/502.jpg

2017-02-28 03:00:37 UTC

kek

2017-02-28 03:02:09 UTC

LOL

2017-02-28 03:04:34 UTC

I don't get it?

2017-02-28 03:04:53 UTC

it's a tire presure gage

2017-02-28 03:05:08 UTC

his mom's a dumbass and thinks it's a drug thing

2017-02-28 03:05:11 UTC

there we go

2017-02-28 03:05:14 UTC

now the joke is killed

2017-02-28 03:05:15 UTC

gj

2017-02-28 03:05:18 UTC

Oh, that's stupid of her.

2017-02-28 03:06:00 UTC

when the stupid person in a stupid person joke is so stupid you don't get it.

2017-02-28 03:06:14 UTC

wrong one

2017-02-28 03:06:26 UTC

@๐Ÿ…ฑarD That's where I was at.

2017-02-28 03:07:21 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276935978369810432/285971175077838848/482.gif

2017-02-28 03:07:43 UTC

"how did I know the couple's names weren't Sven and Lagertha? "

2017-02-28 03:09:46 UTC

How have you fallen so much northern lion!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276935978369810432/285971785067921409/swedish_empire.png

2017-02-28 03:15:20 UTC

so any word on the website laddies?

2017-02-28 03:24:03 UTC

the official site is already up fam

2017-02-28 03:24:06 UTC

has been for a while

2017-02-28 03:28:49 UTC

i love the christopher cantwell show

2017-02-28 03:28:54 UTC

im defo not a racist but hes funny as shit

2017-02-28 03:28:57 UTC

very talented writer

2017-02-28 03:29:00 UTC

quick with the jokes

2017-02-28 03:29:12 UTC

just saw someone mention him earlier

2017-02-28 03:29:25 UTC

he takes in calls too thats the best part

2017-02-28 03:29:31 UTC

one guy called in with a molyneux impression

2017-02-28 03:29:35 UTC

one of the funniest things

2017-02-28 03:36:50 UTC
2017-02-28 03:49:01 UTC

cantwell is still an-cap.. he has the flag on his set still and in the About section on his site it says he is an-cap

2017-02-28 03:49:31 UTC

why is it that any time some libertarian embraces hoppean ideas that idiots say "he isn't an anarchist any more, he is super right wing"

2017-02-28 03:49:52 UTC

they do the same thing to molyneux, even when he still says he is a voluntarist and that he isn't right wing

2017-02-28 03:50:16 UTC

do people not have the mental capacity to realize that these things aren't mutually exclusive?

2017-02-28 03:54:32 UTC

I dunno.
Anarchists are a very whiny lot, they tend to be ideology over pragmatics as an absolute rule.

2017-02-28 03:55:26 UTC

doesn't really have anything to do with my complaint

2017-02-28 03:56:27 UTC

Hoppe has been saying we need to remove undesirables from society for a long time (in a stateless society) on principal, this doesn't make him "right wing" or a statist

2017-02-28 03:56:56 UTC

so now that molyneux and cantwell start saying things similar to hoppe, now they get called right wing and statist

2017-02-28 03:57:55 UTC

Well, removing people involuntary kinda goes against voluntarism.
And while in order to assure a libertarian society it'd be a necessity, as I stated previously, anarchists are autistic and unwilling to compromise.

2017-02-28 03:58:15 UTC

not against voluntarism if those people are a threat

2017-02-28 03:58:33 UTC

which is not really my gripe

2017-02-28 03:59:11 UTC

it's just that the purposeful mischaracterization of people's positions just to make themselves feel better about their own views, is retarded

2017-02-28 03:59:19 UTC

it's time to stop.avi

2017-02-28 04:00:30 UTC

Yes, but if we didn't strawman people we'd have to talk to them and end up having our fundamental views questioned.

2017-02-28 04:01:04 UTC

it sounds like someone is about to launch their tomahawk missles

2017-02-28 04:01:48 UTC

i don't have enough tomahawks to get rid of all of the strawman-ers

2017-02-28 04:02:39 UTC

You'd have to remove almost everyone.

2017-02-28 04:03:04 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/276935978369810432/285985198733000704/457.jpg

2017-02-28 04:03:18 UTC

i just want them to stop being bad at arguments and thinking

2017-02-28 04:03:40 UTC

if burnside sees this he will memacaust you again @Iamawesom

2017-02-28 04:04:03 UTC

@Benzmiller People are almost always unwilling to get over themselves.

2017-02-28 04:04:31 UTC

i know, but what else can i say, other than to call them retards and tell them to stop

2017-02-28 04:04:36 UTC

or maybe they're unable to

2017-02-28 04:05:01 UTC

Well, you can't reason a person out of somewhere they didn't reason themselves into.
But there are more advanced argument methods.

2017-02-28 04:05:11 UTC

Socratic is good, make them ask questions about the fundamental nature of their ideology.

2017-02-28 04:05:28 UTC

Of course this only works if the person understands the difference between a question and answer. Fact and opinion.

2017-02-28 04:06:23 UTC

i'm sure they don't even understand the socratic method

2017-02-28 04:06:32 UTC

No, but you can make them use it in an argument.

2017-02-28 04:06:34 UTC

this is why i generally don't engage them. they can't stay on topic

2017-02-28 04:06:42 UTC

That's another thing.

2017-02-28 04:06:44 UTC

If you're talking about convincing people to stop supporting communist horseshit, it takes experience of the real world before they wake the fuck up. I've never known a working person who has ever supported communism.

2017-02-28 04:06:54 UTC

we're not

2017-02-28 04:07:07 UTC

The proliteriat don't wanna be dictators.
They just wanna have a beer with the missus.

2017-02-28 04:07:37 UTC

The proles realize that it's better to be able to climb a ladder than to be stranded on the floor for life

2017-02-28 04:08:04 UTC

It's pseudo intellectual middle class idiots who think they can fix the world via leveling the plane.

2017-02-28 04:08:31 UTC

I don't want level, that's shit, I wanna be able to not work one day.
I want movement, thriving, life that is questioned and vibrant with a relied source of income.

2017-02-28 04:09:47 UTC

also, it's kind of hard to use the socratic method with a person who is unwilling to participate

2017-02-28 04:10:13 UTC

That's the big thing.
If a person isn't willing to debate then don't debate them.

2017-02-28 04:10:35 UTC

In that situation they usually only listen to "authority"
In which case I'd recommend becoming and authority of some kind.

2017-02-28 04:11:29 UTC

sadly that's most people

2017-02-28 04:11:55 UTC

Well, I've yet to meet a girl who can debate using rationality.
And as far as men go it's a very small minority.

2017-02-28 04:12:19 UTC

hard to escape it. i would say that i want to go into academia, but it's not like it's a huge step up, but at least the platform for debate is more defined at a college that isn't taken over by communists

2017-02-28 04:12:35 UTC

yes, both sexes are terrible at it

2017-02-28 04:12:42 UTC

Perhaps, but show me a university that isn't marxist at some point.

2017-02-28 04:12:51 UTC

some private schools

2017-02-28 04:13:08 UTC

plus, i'd be willing to go in and combat them, somebody has to keep them from having a monopoly on it

2017-02-28 04:13:19 UTC

That's a fair point.

2017-02-28 04:13:54 UTC

inspiring some students can change their minds for the better and add more people to our way of thinking

2017-02-28 04:14:01 UTC

or to reason, logic, etc

2017-02-28 04:14:28 UTC

And it'd be good to break the echo chamber a bit.
Though I'm quite sure that if I expressed many of my views I'd be... unwelcome.

2017-02-28 04:14:55 UTC

yeah, the only way to get in is to lay low till you get tenure

2017-02-28 04:15:14 UTC

i've spoken with professors who have done that, it's kind of the only way i think

2017-02-28 04:15:17 UTC

Or get independence and go controversial in a big way.

2017-02-28 04:15:37 UTC

hard to do that in a school with opposite views, it's a fast way to get fired

2017-02-28 04:16:12 UTC

Nah, I mean like get economic independence from the school and go massively controversial from there.

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