She is, so I'll support her.

And I don't think a Democrat immigration hawk even exists...

Lipinski is the closest we have to that, I think.

who?

The man who will lose to Arthur Jones.

oh right

"We can't mope. At the moment, we have to finish what we've started."

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If a senator dies, are they replaced with someone of the same party?

@Rhodesiaboo Depends on the state constitution

Most states, the governor appoints a temporary senator until a special election is held.

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 All Democrats become doves in immigration after a few years.

They'll start as "hawks" but they always become moderate./

@Deleted User What's your take?

This is the only reason I have hope, Trump either totally fucked up, or he's playing 4D chess and I just can't see it, like he's done before.

MUH 5D UNDERWATER INTERDIMENSIONAL CHINESE CHECKERS

When have any of these 4D chess hypothesises ever materialized?

Syria. Not much else that I can remember

Why'd he launch the strike in the first place

Intimidation against China. And to separate himself from Obama with his line in the sand nonsense. The China part actually worked. Especially because he was having a dinner with Xi at the time

How did it forward the agenda?

Where are we now that we wouldn't have been without the strike?

China blocked a lot of coal from north korea and started buying ours almost immediately . Even though they have done some back dealings with the girls since it is not bear the same level.

Norks not girls

I would wager it helped get us to the current denuclearization of the norks

I'm sorry, but wasn't Trump's platform ISOLATIONISM?

We were already involved there and it did nothing to escalate the syrian situation. While at the same time working towards stopping a more legitimate threat with the Norks. You asked about chess moves and I gave you the only one I could think of that ever played out close to predicted.

Button

Have you forgot the 4D Chess DACA deal?

He should have ended that shit day 1 like he said he would. I get leverage but come on

I don't remember Trump ever saying he was an isolationist, that was labels his base gave him.

He just thought the war in Iraq was stupid and we should've kept the oil.

So he's actually more imperialist :D

TRUMP CAMPAIGNED ON NO MORE POINTLESS WARS

AKA = FORTRESS AMERICA ISOLATIONISM

to be completely fair, the NK situation is unique from the ME

NK is a conflict which could be dangerous to the US population, Syria is not. He's also criticized Obama for leaving Iraq without residual force. There's a balance.

1.) Never should have been in Iraq
2.) North Korea is a threat to _no one_

1) absolutely agreed, but the damage is done
2) they are a potential major threat to the US.

I think it's better to establish diplomatic relations with NK, but we shouldn't bend over to the world like the last admin

1.) North Korea will _never_ strike the US first. Even Kim is smart enough to understand the second he launches a missile the US that North Korea will wiped off the face of the Earth

that's a chance we can't take.

RIGHTS FOR ME BUT NOT FOR THEE

@spooky tearing apart the founding document of the nation for your cheap activism is also an embarrasment

that little fed

fucking californian diaspora

serious question,

why are we on the right so bad with activism

why don't we organize demonstrations like this

visibility

this is the issue and why we need a counter to censorship

they can promote the left's marches and all that, give them a massive megaphone, but the right does a rally, and they'll only get publicity if someone dies there.

there was a boston free speech march last year, no attention.

the closest thing the right has to activism is the 'infowars microphones' method.

until we level the playing field on social media, that'll never change.

Because we work..

We're employeed.

What are the roadblocks to making a new social media platform?

Literally my Bernie friend took off a week from school to fly to DC and protest.

The app store doesn't accept them

gab got rejected

@zakattack04 hol up

there are two arguments to this

>we don't rally because we have jobs

and that's a terrible excuse, the young Rs need to do activism

>immigrants took our jobs

Not really.

only one can work, and it's the second one

^

Right-wingers are just lazy, honestly

"Oh look at these silly left-wingers are there MARCHES''

Most of the white working class which Trump got support in the Rust belt works.
Working class people don't care much for politics and they don't protest.

our issue is that our activism gets put down the memory hole

They lost their jobs to free trade, not immigrants btw.

um

NO SWEETIE

this isn't 2010, social media has a lot more pull and is much less forgiving to the right

Outsourcing and Cheap Immigrant Labor cost Dave his Auto Plant job

Yeah, it's both

not one or the other

Found the counter-demonstrators

great optics

fucking idiots

right? It's funny, but who does it win over?

he may as well dabbed

the smugness on right is problematic

we can't antagonize ourselves

have you noticed,

the left only becomes smug when they win?

for the right, they're smug even before they've achieved anything

yeah the ben garrison Qanon shit is bugging the shit out of me

They're expecting Trump to magically puff up a victory

>Outsourcing and Cheap Immigrant Labor cost Dave his Auto Plant job

yes

Apparently you don't undestand what free-trade is.

The only way that was allowed to happen is because of free trade when China joined the WTO organisation.

Free Trade is exporting American jobs for cheap shirts

maybe dave was free trade, maybe john was immigration

both are problems

Free trade is the removal of all trade barriers between nations.

aka globalism

You literally proved my point with your statement

No

oh my god

MIGHT AS WELL HAVE NO BORDERS

stop with the semantics

Brainlet, globalism is government working together on subjects, free trade is removing trade barriers between nations.

Free trade was done to promote globalism yes.

free trade is not globalism.

Both are problems.

That is true.

My point, he was trying to argue that immigrants took their jobs, and right wingers don't protest because they have jobs.

anyways, I'm going to say something about the activism stuff

One doesn't invalidate the other, because it ins't universal.

Not every worker has lost their job to an immigrant.

Our industrial sector was destroyed because of free-trade, not because of immigrants.

Tell that the Mark who lost his job at the steel mill!

We've lost 6 million manufacturing jobs since China joined the World Trade Organization.

And like 55K factories.

We went from being the single biggest industrial powerhouse, to inferior to China. Because we opened our borders to free trade when other nations didn't.

Even the EU has tarriffs.

They even have export tariffs.

They penalize companies for sending products to the US.

"Right Winger looked disgusting--nipples protruding--in his olive shirt before the march. Very very disrespectful."

This is the problem

nice goin', sargon

we've got to get our activists fit

@zakattack04 exactly, we'll just penalize them back.

they must be presentable.

Really?

because most of Congress is against his tariffs.

Congress is a bunch of clowns

When they're not even close to what China or the EU has on us.

congress can suck my cock

Who makes the laws.

Holy shit you guys.

"Congress is a joke but ima take it in the ass from them."

Yes they are, but you need them to support your fucking agenda if you want it done.

The executive order is constitutional

can be undone.

WE'll PRIMARY EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM

More inner fighting great.

This will help our chances.

Which is it?

@zakattack04 A majority of the American public supports tariffs

that's true.

Don't you care about the whim of your fellow Americans?

Do you want congress to remain anti-tariff while winning, or do you want to change this?

Anyways, this is what Trump should do.

Meet with GOP candidates all over the country, and have them sign an 'America First Contract'.

Pro-tariff, anti immigration, etc.

The anti-immigration is going to be hard, Democrats are going to parade America's history of taking everyone's poor, (though they were white) and call us hypocrits.

Just CLOSE the country

NO immigrants

NO imports

It's better to start with illegal immigration.

This is why he needs a contract

No imports, omg.

Great Depression 2.0

No, this is going to be an unwinnable fight.

We'll make everything HERE

ALL immigration.

with American workers

Legal immigration is a larger problem than illegal immigration.

I'm done with half-measures.

YOu're going to need to gut like 80% of the regulations if you want that to be viable, othewise making everything here is too expenensive.

Our biggest export is food, that's it lol.

When you're on a sinking ship, you go all the way, or go under.

That's because we don't make anything anymore

Trump has to put these bastards in a vice.

A contract. Not only with incumbents, but candidates.

Then he puts it on a website or something of that nature.

yeah honestly.

That would work well.

Like Gingrich did.

If they don't support these points in Trump's agenda, they go.

wait, wait

there are Republican districts where Trump isn't popular, remember

In that case, rejecting the contract shouldn't be a high price for them there.

we'd have to be willing to give up a few in exchange for other districts

That's the price we'll have to pay then.

No more half-measures.

we'd have to go full-in with Minnesota

Yes. We also have to approach blue dogs with the contract.

Test their loyalties.

You'll never make Minnesota red.

Minnesota went Blue for Reagan, when the entire country went Red.

And now it's full of muslims.

You don't get the dynamics very well.

Trends still exsist lol.

History is consistent,.

This is a different Republican party than in the Reagan age.

Also, Mondale was from Minnesota.

It took them hours to call it in 2016.

What makes you think it could go red.

If it's entire history has been blue.

The message.

It's like trying to make Washington and Oregon red, they're all white, but they will vote democrat forever.

I should point out

we're not trying to make the whole state red

just the specific districts

the rural, White no-college districts that went for Trump by double digits

The working class voters in Minnesota.

In the Reagan age, he couldn't give any less of a shit about them, Trump's message was very different.

@FLanon @zakattack04

Fucking urban voters...

we're going for the 7, 8 and 1

Fair.

which are currently held by vulnerable Democrats

1 of which has retired

but it's fair to say we won't get the Senate seat in MN

either of them

the Twin Cities have too much electoral weight

I want to put this in some perspective,

(the effect of immigration)

Trump would've won if the demographics of Minnesota were that of 2012

before all those Somalis barged in

it's also what cost the Republican who was running against Al Franken

the same Franken, by the way, who was the deciding vote for ObamaCare

in fact,

most elections after 1965 would've been won straight by Republicans if not for immigration

Ugh

it's too late isn't it, I feel doing what needs to be done for immigration is so controversial to say it'll never happen at this point.

Democrats are going to parade our bodies while the MSM will smear your positions.

Why do urban voters vote Leftist?

That's an interesting question

infrastructure

Is that the actual case?

You mean the shitty infrastructure?

Infrastructure?

That doesn’t work half the time

services,

Oh

I see

cities can't survive without bigger government

Damn if these people are being voted off of that they’re doing a bad job.

How is this the case?

Btw?

@GermanEastAfrica Also because they don't produce anything, so they don't live with responsibility

There's a reason why only land owners were suppose to vote.

Mhm

because they understand taking care of land and property.

Then they complain at the people who do actually produce

Urban voters just rent.

For being backwards

They don't have to care for their products.

Yep

And “not with the times.”