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there's bound to be more than a few solid GOP candidates to take his place
from what I saw he was a good guy and he beat the dem in the polls consistently
So many fucking Austin Petersen shills in midterm threads is one thing I've definitely noticed
Why do conservatives not understand that hispanics tend to vote for bigger government?
I wonder why
it's ridiculous
you have these Bushian retards that think that amnesty= future GOP voters as if they'll be gracious or something
didn't happen with Reagan
and then you have these Petersen shills come in with their fucking gadsden flags
I had an argument with one of these people, and the reason they apparently supported Petersen over Hawley was because "Hawley's a McConnell shill for Israel"
One thing about /pol/ which is absolutely autistic is some people have such a hard line against Israel that they'll literally support open borders cultural suicide candidates to spite them.
yeah, that's stupid. There's little one can do at the moment to break AIPAC's influence. A pro-Israel Republican losing to an open borders Democrat would harm us much more than the opposite happening, because one more pro-Israel politician won't change anything whereas one more open borders SJW pandering Democrat can do a lot of damage
the Israel thing is such a fucking small one it's painful
the real big Israel issue is apparently there's a lot of Israeli dual citizens in congress
If someone were to make a sort of anti-conflict of interest bill which made it to where you had to denounce that citizenry, that'd be good
overall though, it's not as much of a priority
Israel gets in the way in the Mid-East, but it's not as monumental as people make it.
I say let the Nehlens little by little chip away at its influence as they become more prominent, then we'll start asking these questions.
lol we've had two shills save the thread from being archived today
hmm
I'm thinking of rewriting the OP
wtf are dems /ourguy/
/pol/ is more for online activism
I'm all ears
current /ptg/ thread only has 138 posters
that's going to have practically 0 impact if we have them all go out door-to-door
whereas 138 posters can easily reach 10,000 people each --> 1,380,000
so more focus on online psyops is what you're suggesting?
using the Internet
yeah
sounds like a good idea
also, we should closely monitor spaces like /r/BlueMidterm2018
Daily Kos, Democratic Underground
the left is miles ahead of the right in terms of online organization
maybe gather evidence in case they decide to conspire in bussing or something?
the American right is sadly still mostly comprised of boomers (arguably the left is as well)
yeah
Is bussing even illegal though ?
If it isn't, we should try to get the GOP to fund bussing of their own
when you do it to multiple polling stations yeah lol
oh, yeah
I heard that Trump would have won New Hampshire and Nevada were it not for illegal bussing
definitely NH, possibly NV
I don't care about HIM winning those states as much as the senate seats.
also, I wonder if there was any fraud in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania
the margins were really thin
from what I've seen those states are clean
I also wonder if Trump really did win the popular vote in reality if you subtract all the voter fraud away
MI does paper ballots exclusively, and they recounted votes in WI
(especially given the fact that Hillary somehow did better in California than Obama in 2012 while performing worse in every other state)
didn't the Wisconsin recount reveal even more votes for Trump
This is why I suggest strict federal voter ID legislation
the fact that the Rs didn't try that when they had so much legislative power in the Bush era fucking astounds me
Bush Republicans are pretty much establishment stooges though
and Bush was a "welcome hispanics into the GOP" kind of guy
Fair enough, but you'd think they'd care about their own political capital enough to do voter ID legislation
If they want to make it a "hispanics welcome" party, they could have at least pushed voter ID
They've known about this kind of stuff for fucking decades, and no one does anything about it
Closest thing I've seen is the Kobach commission, and it was disbanded recently
Even if most states didn't comply, they had the rolls from NH and NV I think, they could have made a good case right there and then.
For Christ's sake I hope that 4d chess shit is real or this is going to be fucking terrible
excuse me
this dot map shows the political and racial demographics of the US
all these small, white towns in Minnesota-8 make the district ripe for the taking
good. we should have info like this for when the next general is posted
what are your thoughts on this movement
I support it
yeah, it's been really picking up steam in the media recently
not sure if this or State of Jefferson would be better though
tbh they should call the east side "california" and the west side "American Nuclear Testing Zone"
I like it, Just wish the borders where a bit better
notice something?
the redder areas are smaller, whiter towns
that's Trump's base
don't forget,
small, white towns
their website is straining from all the traffic
I wonder if Trump deliberately did this to let the GOP Establishment know who holds the real power
hopefully it conveys the reality check they need
they've been sitting on their ass when it comes to voter turnout
the fact that their shitty website is crashing because of Trump should remind them who gave them the power they currently have
new thread
I'm not reading into it that deeply
certainly symbolic though
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It's so annoying we have to do the job of the RNC for them
We need to maximize the white vote
whens the next race?
23rd, Pittsburgh
Democrat control, but it's harrowed Rust Belt territory
Well let's see if we can't spin that around
on Facebook under the 'Current Headlines' section I saw this dumb MSM post about how Trump is 'scrambling' and 'panicking' because he's campaigning for the GOP candidate in that seat
is he really?
fucking amazing
let me make the new general btw
there's a reason to be concerned
if he's campaigning that means he sees this and is taking action
remember, these people want us to lose
I'd be panicking too if I was the President and my party was losing 35 seats since I took office
Trump's best when he's live
net loss of 31
I wouldn't call it 'panic'
I would call it a measured response born out of appropriate concern
'caution'
new thread
The tweets are ok and all, but at a rally it's full of energy, he gets people going
the governor of Wisconsin was panicked that's for sure
I 100% think that if Trump made a live appearance at VA during Gillespie or AL during Moore, they most certainly would have won instead of putting out some tweet saying "hey guys vote"
That's how he gets turnout
We need Trump to be an activist for his party this year, an asset.
Gillespie actually rejected an offer by Trump to rally for him
Still, the principle stands
That was certainly a stupid move to make
You need all the awareness you can get
good thing Trump rallied too, his voters are concentrated in that district
small, white towns everywhere
btw guys, have the discussion in the thread so that it bumps it and keeps it from getting slid
He needs to pull all the rallies possible
He's got to be able to get 2016 levels
Here's my prediction: GOP wins, but because of massive Dem fundraising they do better than normal, which leads to them saying "durr here's further proof of le blue wave"
(that's what happened for all the other special House elections. GOP wins, but Democrats do better than usual because of massive amounts of $ and media attention)
I have no clue what the RNC is planning
that's the fucking thing
I can picture a blue wave happening if the RNC continues to sit on their ass
There's the possibility they're lazy retards
Paul Ryan has earned 44 million dollars this year in donations
he better spend in on the race
Is it his to spend or the party's to spend
@FLanon there's also the huge possibility that because they're establishment politicians, they'd rather let Democrats win than have Trump win
he can direct it to the RNC
of course
or spend it on his own campaign
they'd rather be the minority party than be the majority party with responsibilities
the second one probably
when they're the minority party, they also will be called racist less often
all they can do is block
ffs we need good offense
The main hope I have for this year isn't in the party itself to campaign well, but for Trump to do something massive and/or campaign with a ton of energy
I think I get the RNC's strategy
they're going for a full-scale offensive in the Senate
save money, spend it on the US elections
I recognize it
but a hunkered down defense in the House
I think it's a terrible idea
money is good, but guerilla campaigning is better
this isn't a contest of "whoever racks up the most shekels wins"
remember Clinton always
Oof, Clinton blew 1.2 billion
that's why we need a good offensive on all fronts and not just have a lot of money, but use what we have effectively.
Trump > RNC when it comes to election strategy
he beat out their 16 best people
that has to count for something
yeah
you'd think that GOP candidates would learn from Trump when it comes to winning
but they all use the same tired strategies
I thought Moore was doing ok because his Twitter responses were decent, but then again he probably wasn't in charge of his Twitter
I wish Gingrich had a larger role in all of this
Gingrich isn't even busy with anything
Trump should hire him
it sounds like the kind of savvy play he'd make
Twitter doesn't win elections, Gillespie and Moore taught me that
He has the numbers to show for it. He pulled off '94 and got the fucking speaker unseated
He knows how to run a massive campaign, that's it.
Ryan is fucking clueless, he rode the wave in the late '90s and sat on his ass while he got the speaker position
Gingrich was brilliant,
the contract was key
Trump needs good advisors for the midterms, definitely. A team.
The first:
#NoWhiteDemocrats
Step 1. Set up sockpuppet black Twitter accounts
Step 2. Screech at all liberals who are white and moderates who are white, attack whites running for congress and keeping their seat in Congress. Try to turn the Dem party into the 'POC Party'. Attack Pelosi, etc.
3. When people are questioning whether to stay, berate them even more to get them to 'get out of your party white debils'.
That's one technique.
Another I thought of is #RaiseOurTaxes
Step 1: More sockpuppets
Step 2: Pose as Democrat voters and attempt to make undoing the Trump tax cuts as a major part of the Democratic program for the midterms
Step 3: Find random moderates, and ask them if they saved anything in taxes. (Use MaximLotts Tax Calculator)
Step 4: If they did (90-95%), berate them, call them 'bourgeois fucks', 'rich cunts' and the such, try to alienate them as much as humanly possible.
what do you guys think of this idea
that was my post
ha, I suspected it was
It's very simple, people are sensitive.
They don't like being yelled at, they hold grudges.
Some people may get the idea that whites aren't welcome anymore in the Dem party, and will simply not vote, or vote for the opposite party
Also, no one likes having their taxes raised
I got that idea in particular from seeing a screencap of a reddit post which suggested that 'the dems run on raising taxes' on the night it was passed, which was completely retarded but inspiring
They're becoming pretty popular now, so attempting to repeal them while all this news of new job growth and a lot of middle class people saving on taxes can only hurt Dems
someone bump the thread
what up
Hello
oh shit
someone bump the thread
lol shit, too late
I might make a new one before tonight ends
hmm
shill this, this will hurt Dems badly in the coming midterms
THEYRE FIGHTING BACK
yep, that's why I've been saying it's too early to come to a definite conclusion. So much shit like this can happen between now and November
BREAKING: Federal prosecutors have notified the court that they intend to retry Sen. Robert Menendez on bribery and corruption charges and have requested the earliest possible retrial date.
NEW JERSEY SENATE SEAT IN PLAY
hell yeah
the thing is...it's still New Jersey
I think Chris Christie trashed the reputation of the GOP there
assuming Menendez resigns, the replacement Dem still has an relatively easy battle
if Menendez DOESN'T resign, the GOP challenger has the advantage, especially if they aren't connected to Christie and run a solid campaign
Christie was an awful governor, but he wasn't elected because the GOP became popular, he was elected as a rejection of Obama
from what I remember, it was because Corzine was awful
I don't think Obama had much to do with it
the Democrats in general were unpopular
Christie is one of the few conservatives I hate more than the leftists
@jackborne1893 why would you say that
The only leftist I could like is one who's an immigration hardliner, but those don't exist.
thing is about the leftists in government is that don't give an inch for anything
people talk about Manchin being better, but he votes the same way
what matters is the votes, really.
Hey people
what is it
Remember this picture of Joe Biden touching that boyโs penis
"no serious guys till you're 30"
@Rhodesiaboo What state you in
Ohio
what district
there are no competitive districts in OH this year
so?
only the Senate seat is
And the governorship
ah yes
I think the person running for the Republicans is Mike DeWine, the dems will pick either Richard Corday or Dennis Kucinich.
In the Senate race itโs weird thanks to the fact Mandel dropped out
new thread
got dub trips
someone bump the thread by asking a question
instead of discussing in the discord, discuss in the thread so it gets bumped up
someone bump the thread
Hey
whats up
where in Ohio are you from ? Columbus ?
Suburbs of Cleveland
Lake County
how popular is Kucinich over there
btw did someone post the Discord link in the thread today? I'm guessing that's how you found this
I donโt know
But he was mayor of Cleveland during the 70s
When the river catched on fire
yeah, I know. I loved him back when I was a leftist
In this state, the dems keep running the same people
bump this thread every 10 minutes or so guys
>turning on your own
save this
let's meme it
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