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2018-01-17 22:19:42 UTC

there's bound to be more than a few solid GOP candidates to take his place

2018-01-17 22:20:01 UTC

from what I saw he was a good guy and he beat the dem in the polls consistently

2018-01-17 22:20:52 UTC

So many fucking Austin Petersen shills in midterm threads is one thing I've definitely noticed

2018-01-17 22:21:49 UTC

Why do conservatives not understand that hispanics tend to vote for bigger government?

2018-01-17 22:21:52 UTC

I wonder why

2018-01-17 22:21:58 UTC

it's ridiculous

2018-01-17 22:22:34 UTC

you have these Bushian retards that think that amnesty= future GOP voters as if they'll be gracious or something

2018-01-17 22:22:41 UTC

didn't happen with Reagan

2018-01-17 22:23:40 UTC

and then you have these Petersen shills come in with their fucking gadsden flags

2018-01-17 22:24:31 UTC

I had an argument with one of these people, and the reason they apparently supported Petersen over Hawley was because "Hawley's a McConnell shill for Israel"

2018-01-17 22:25:17 UTC

One thing about /pol/ which is absolutely autistic is some people have such a hard line against Israel that they'll literally support open borders cultural suicide candidates to spite them.

2018-01-17 22:40:01 UTC

yeah, that's stupid. There's little one can do at the moment to break AIPAC's influence. A pro-Israel Republican losing to an open borders Democrat would harm us much more than the opposite happening, because one more pro-Israel politician won't change anything whereas one more open borders SJW pandering Democrat can do a lot of damage

2018-01-17 22:40:42 UTC

the Israel thing is such a fucking small one it's painful

2018-01-17 22:41:15 UTC

the real big Israel issue is apparently there's a lot of Israeli dual citizens in congress

2018-01-17 22:41:59 UTC

If someone were to make a sort of anti-conflict of interest bill which made it to where you had to denounce that citizenry, that'd be good

2018-01-17 22:42:09 UTC

overall though, it's not as much of a priority

2018-01-17 22:42:37 UTC

Israel gets in the way in the Mid-East, but it's not as monumental as people make it.

2018-01-17 22:43:09 UTC

I say let the Nehlens little by little chip away at its influence as they become more prominent, then we'll start asking these questions.

2018-01-17 22:43:59 UTC

lol we've had two shills save the thread from being archived today

2018-01-17 22:44:22 UTC

hmm

2018-01-17 22:44:32 UTC

I'm thinking of rewriting the OP

2018-01-17 22:44:37 UTC

wtf are dems /ourguy/

2018-01-17 22:44:39 UTC

/pol/ is more for online activism

2018-01-17 22:44:52 UTC

I'm all ears

2018-01-17 22:45:02 UTC

current /ptg/ thread only has 138 posters

2018-01-17 22:45:18 UTC

that's going to have practically 0 impact if we have them all go out door-to-door

2018-01-17 22:45:57 UTC

whereas 138 posters can easily reach 10,000 people each --> 1,380,000

2018-01-17 22:46:02 UTC

so more focus on online psyops is what you're suggesting?

2018-01-17 22:46:03 UTC

using the Internet

2018-01-17 22:46:05 UTC

yeah

2018-01-17 22:46:43 UTC

sounds like a good idea

2018-01-17 22:47:13 UTC

also, we should closely monitor spaces like /r/BlueMidterm2018

2018-01-17 22:47:18 UTC

Daily Kos, Democratic Underground

2018-01-17 22:47:34 UTC

the left is miles ahead of the right in terms of online organization

2018-01-17 22:47:58 UTC

maybe gather evidence in case they decide to conspire in bussing or something?

2018-01-17 22:48:11 UTC

the American right is sadly still mostly comprised of boomers (arguably the left is as well)

2018-01-17 22:48:21 UTC

yeah

2018-01-17 22:48:25 UTC

Is bussing even illegal though ?

2018-01-17 22:48:40 UTC

If it isn't, we should try to get the GOP to fund bussing of their own

2018-01-17 22:48:40 UTC

when you do it to multiple polling stations yeah lol

2018-01-17 22:48:46 UTC

oh, yeah

2018-01-17 22:49:01 UTC

I heard that Trump would have won New Hampshire and Nevada were it not for illegal bussing

2018-01-17 22:49:13 UTC

definitely NH, possibly NV

2018-01-17 22:49:31 UTC

I don't care about HIM winning those states as much as the senate seats.

2018-01-17 22:49:36 UTC

also, I wonder if there was any fraud in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania

2018-01-17 22:49:47 UTC

the margins were really thin

2018-01-17 22:49:51 UTC

from what I've seen those states are clean

2018-01-17 22:50:05 UTC

I also wonder if Trump really did win the popular vote in reality if you subtract all the voter fraud away

2018-01-17 22:50:11 UTC

MI does paper ballots exclusively, and they recounted votes in WI

2018-01-17 22:50:24 UTC

(especially given the fact that Hillary somehow did better in California than Obama in 2012 while performing worse in every other state)

2018-01-17 22:50:38 UTC

didn't the Wisconsin recount reveal even more votes for Trump

2018-01-17 22:50:39 UTC

This is why I suggest strict federal voter ID legislation

2018-01-17 22:51:06 UTC

the fact that the Rs didn't try that when they had so much legislative power in the Bush era fucking astounds me

2018-01-17 22:51:43 UTC

Bush Republicans are pretty much establishment stooges though

2018-01-17 22:51:55 UTC

and Bush was a "welcome hispanics into the GOP" kind of guy

2018-01-17 22:52:21 UTC

Fair enough, but you'd think they'd care about their own political capital enough to do voter ID legislation

2018-01-17 22:52:46 UTC

If they want to make it a "hispanics welcome" party, they could have at least pushed voter ID

2018-01-17 22:53:17 UTC

They've known about this kind of stuff for fucking decades, and no one does anything about it

2018-01-17 22:54:14 UTC

Closest thing I've seen is the Kobach commission, and it was disbanded recently

2018-01-17 22:54:50 UTC

Even if most states didn't comply, they had the rolls from NH and NV I think, they could have made a good case right there and then.

2018-01-17 22:55:30 UTC

For Christ's sake I hope that 4d chess shit is real or this is going to be fucking terrible

2018-01-17 23:35:11 UTC

excuse me

2018-01-17 23:36:04 UTC

this dot map shows the political and racial demographics of the US

2018-01-17 23:39:01 UTC

all these small, white towns in Minnesota-8 make the district ripe for the taking

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/403332416833454082/small_white_towns.png

2018-01-17 23:58:31 UTC

good. we should have info like this for when the next general is posted

2018-01-18 00:21:53 UTC

what are your thoughts on this movement

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/403343201655848963/New_California.jpg

2018-01-18 00:22:06 UTC

I support it

2018-01-18 00:22:29 UTC

yeah, it's been really picking up steam in the media recently

2018-01-18 00:22:55 UTC

not sure if this or State of Jefferson would be better though

2018-01-18 00:23:24 UTC

tbh they should call the east side "california" and the west side "American Nuclear Testing Zone"

2018-01-18 00:47:29 UTC

I like it, Just wish the borders where a bit better

2018-01-18 00:47:59 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/403349771835670528/pennsylvania_18.png

2018-01-18 00:48:06 UTC

notice something?

2018-01-18 00:49:13 UTC

the redder areas are smaller, whiter towns
that's Trump's base
don't forget,
small, white towns

2018-01-18 00:49:20 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/403350111477956628/3rd-district-2-498x310.jpg

2018-01-18 00:49:23 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/403350124807323648/index.jpg

2018-01-18 01:52:49 UTC

their website is straining from all the traffic

2018-01-18 01:53:04 UTC

I wonder if Trump deliberately did this to let the GOP Establishment know who holds the real power

2018-01-18 01:53:34 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/403366275323002891/GOPtraffic.jpg

2018-01-18 01:53:47 UTC

hopefully it conveys the reality check they need

2018-01-18 01:54:03 UTC

they've been sitting on their ass when it comes to voter turnout

2018-01-18 01:54:56 UTC

the fact that their shitty website is crashing because of Trump should remind them who gave them the power they currently have

2018-01-18 01:56:55 UTC

new thread

2018-01-18 02:11:44 UTC

I'm not reading into it that deeply

2018-01-18 02:16:47 UTC

certainly symbolic though

2018-01-18 03:14:17 UTC

There is a special election on Tuesday, January 23rd for the Pennsylvania House of Representatives 35th District. Don't forget to vote!

https://ballotpedia.org/State_legislative_special_elections,_2018#January_23.2C_2018

REGISTER TO VOTE ASAP
https://www.eac.gov/voters/register-and-vote-in-your-state/

2018-01-18 05:43:44 UTC

It's so annoying we have to do the job of the RNC for them

2018-01-18 22:57:35 UTC

We need to maximize the white vote

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/403684375398580246/white_dems.png

2018-01-18 23:05:38 UTC

whens the next race?

2018-01-18 23:05:56 UTC

23rd, Pittsburgh

2018-01-18 23:06:13 UTC

Democrat control, but it's harrowed Rust Belt territory

2018-01-18 23:06:29 UTC

Well let's see if we can't spin that around

2018-01-18 23:06:39 UTC

on Facebook under the 'Current Headlines' section I saw this dumb MSM post about how Trump is 'scrambling' and 'panicking' because he's campaigning for the GOP candidate in that seat

2018-01-18 23:06:51 UTC

is he really?

2018-01-18 23:06:55 UTC

fucking amazing

2018-01-18 23:07:05 UTC

let me make the new general btw

2018-01-18 23:07:08 UTC

there's a reason to be concerned

2018-01-18 23:07:24 UTC

if he's campaigning that means he sees this and is taking action

2018-01-18 23:07:32 UTC

remember, these people want us to lose

2018-01-18 23:07:37 UTC

I'd be panicking too if I was the President and my party was losing 35 seats since I took office

2018-01-18 23:07:57 UTC

Trump's best when he's live

2018-01-18 23:07:58 UTC

net loss of 31

2018-01-18 23:08:17 UTC

I wouldn't call it 'panic'

2018-01-18 23:08:32 UTC

I would call it a measured response born out of appropriate concern

2018-01-18 23:08:32 UTC

'caution'

2018-01-18 23:08:46 UTC

new thread

2018-01-18 23:08:49 UTC

The tweets are ok and all, but at a rally it's full of energy, he gets people going

2018-01-18 23:08:56 UTC

the governor of Wisconsin was panicked that's for sure

2018-01-18 23:09:50 UTC

I 100% think that if Trump made a live appearance at VA during Gillespie or AL during Moore, they most certainly would have won instead of putting out some tweet saying "hey guys vote"

2018-01-18 23:10:05 UTC

That's how he gets turnout

2018-01-18 23:10:22 UTC

We need Trump to be an activist for his party this year, an asset.

2018-01-18 23:10:26 UTC

Gillespie actually rejected an offer by Trump to rally for him

2018-01-18 23:10:56 UTC

Still, the principle stands

2018-01-18 23:11:10 UTC

That was certainly a stupid move to make

2018-01-18 23:11:22 UTC

You need all the awareness you can get

2018-01-18 23:11:24 UTC

good thing Trump rallied too, his voters are concentrated in that district

2018-01-18 23:11:57 UTC

small, white towns everywhere

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/403687991094280192/pennsylvania_18.png

2018-01-18 23:12:19 UTC

btw guys, have the discussion in the thread so that it bumps it and keeps it from getting slid

2018-01-18 23:12:34 UTC

He needs to pull all the rallies possible

2018-01-18 23:12:46 UTC

He's got to be able to get 2016 levels

2018-01-18 23:13:38 UTC

Here's my prediction: GOP wins, but because of massive Dem fundraising they do better than normal, which leads to them saying "durr here's further proof of le blue wave"

2018-01-18 23:14:09 UTC

(that's what happened for all the other special House elections. GOP wins, but Democrats do better than usual because of massive amounts of $ and media attention)

2018-01-18 23:14:13 UTC

I have no clue what the RNC is planning

2018-01-18 23:14:18 UTC

that's the fucking thing

2018-01-18 23:14:37 UTC

I can picture a blue wave happening if the RNC continues to sit on their ass

2018-01-18 23:14:38 UTC

There's the possibility they're lazy retards

2018-01-18 23:14:42 UTC

Paul Ryan has earned 44 million dollars this year in donations

2018-01-18 23:14:48 UTC

he better spend in on the race

2018-01-18 23:15:10 UTC

Is it his to spend or the party's to spend

2018-01-18 23:15:14 UTC

@FLanon there's also the huge possibility that because they're establishment politicians, they'd rather let Democrats win than have Trump win

2018-01-18 23:15:25 UTC

he can direct it to the RNC

2018-01-18 23:15:26 UTC

of course

2018-01-18 23:15:36 UTC

or spend it on his own campaign

2018-01-18 23:15:47 UTC

they'd rather be the minority party than be the majority party with responsibilities

2018-01-18 23:15:50 UTC

the second one probably

2018-01-18 23:15:57 UTC

when they're the minority party, they also will be called racist less often

2018-01-18 23:16:09 UTC

all they can do is block

2018-01-18 23:16:20 UTC

ffs we need good offense

2018-01-18 23:17:05 UTC

The main hope I have for this year isn't in the party itself to campaign well, but for Trump to do something massive and/or campaign with a ton of energy

2018-01-18 23:17:40 UTC

I think I get the RNC's strategy

2018-01-18 23:17:48 UTC

they're going for a full-scale offensive in the Senate

2018-01-18 23:17:58 UTC

save money, spend it on the US elections

2018-01-18 23:18:01 UTC

I recognize it

2018-01-18 23:18:03 UTC

but a hunkered down defense in the House

2018-01-18 23:18:17 UTC

I think it's a terrible idea

2018-01-18 23:18:29 UTC

money is good, but guerilla campaigning is better

2018-01-18 23:18:46 UTC

this isn't a contest of "whoever racks up the most shekels wins"

2018-01-18 23:19:08 UTC

remember Clinton always

2018-01-18 23:19:21 UTC

Oof, Clinton blew 1.2 billion

2018-01-18 23:19:57 UTC

that's why we need a good offensive on all fronts and not just have a lot of money, but use what we have effectively.

2018-01-18 23:20:30 UTC

Trump > RNC when it comes to election strategy

2018-01-18 23:20:39 UTC

he beat out their 16 best people

2018-01-18 23:20:47 UTC

that has to count for something

2018-01-18 23:22:06 UTC

yeah

2018-01-18 23:22:18 UTC

you'd think that GOP candidates would learn from Trump when it comes to winning

2018-01-18 23:22:27 UTC

but they all use the same tired strategies

2018-01-18 23:22:48 UTC

I thought Moore was doing ok because his Twitter responses were decent, but then again he probably wasn't in charge of his Twitter

2018-01-18 23:22:49 UTC

I wish Gingrich had a larger role in all of this

2018-01-18 23:23:00 UTC

Gingrich isn't even busy with anything

2018-01-18 23:23:03 UTC

Trump should hire him

2018-01-18 23:23:11 UTC

it sounds like the kind of savvy play he'd make

2018-01-18 23:23:13 UTC

Twitter doesn't win elections, Gillespie and Moore taught me that

2018-01-18 23:24:00 UTC

He has the numbers to show for it. He pulled off '94 and got the fucking speaker unseated

2018-01-18 23:24:44 UTC

He knows how to run a massive campaign, that's it.

2018-01-18 23:25:14 UTC

Ryan is fucking clueless, he rode the wave in the late '90s and sat on his ass while he got the speaker position

2018-01-18 23:30:36 UTC

Gingrich was brilliant,

2018-01-18 23:30:50 UTC

the contract was key

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/403692742904905748/contract.jpg

2018-01-18 23:35:01 UTC

Trump needs good advisors for the midterms, definitely. A team.

2018-01-18 23:38:10 UTC

The first:
#NoWhiteDemocrats
Step 1. Set up sockpuppet black Twitter accounts
Step 2. Screech at all liberals who are white and moderates who are white, attack whites running for congress and keeping their seat in Congress. Try to turn the Dem party into the 'POC Party'. Attack Pelosi, etc.
3. When people are questioning whether to stay, berate them even more to get them to 'get out of your party white debils'.
That's one technique.
Another I thought of is #RaiseOurTaxes
Step 1: More sockpuppets
Step 2: Pose as Democrat voters and attempt to make undoing the Trump tax cuts as a major part of the Democratic program for the midterms
Step 3: Find random moderates, and ask them if they saved anything in taxes. (Use MaximLotts Tax Calculator)
Step 4: If they did (90-95%), berate them, call them 'bourgeois fucks', 'rich cunts' and the such, try to alienate them as much as humanly possible.

2018-01-18 23:38:16 UTC

what do you guys think of this idea

2018-01-18 23:38:28 UTC

that was my post

2018-01-18 23:38:37 UTC

ha, I suspected it was

2018-01-18 23:39:41 UTC

It's very simple, people are sensitive.

2018-01-18 23:39:54 UTC

They don't like being yelled at, they hold grudges.

2018-01-18 23:40:46 UTC

Some people may get the idea that whites aren't welcome anymore in the Dem party, and will simply not vote, or vote for the opposite party

2018-01-18 23:41:02 UTC

Also, no one likes having their taxes raised

2018-01-18 23:41:55 UTC

I got that idea in particular from seeing a screencap of a reddit post which suggested that 'the dems run on raising taxes' on the night it was passed, which was completely retarded but inspiring

2018-01-18 23:43:30 UTC

They're becoming pretty popular now, so attempting to repeal them while all this news of new job growth and a lot of middle class people saving on taxes can only hurt Dems

2018-01-18 23:50:29 UTC

someone bump the thread

2018-01-18 23:55:08 UTC

2018-01-18 23:55:27 UTC

what up

2018-01-19 00:06:42 UTC

Hello

2018-01-19 00:35:50 UTC

oh shit

2018-01-19 00:35:54 UTC

someone bump the thread

2018-01-19 00:36:03 UTC

lol shit, too late

2018-01-19 00:36:11 UTC

I might make a new one before tonight ends

2018-01-19 00:36:12 UTC

hmm

2018-01-19 01:51:35 UTC

shill this, this will hurt Dems badly in the coming midterms

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/403728164951556096/dems.jpg

2018-01-19 03:55:28 UTC

THEYRE FIGHTING BACK

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/403759340147834890/fighting_back.png

2018-01-19 12:27:29 UTC

yep, that's why I've been saying it's too early to come to a definite conclusion. So much shit like this can happen between now and November

2018-01-19 19:45:09 UTC

BREAKING: Federal prosecutors have notified the court that they intend to retry Sen. Robert Menendez on bribery and corruption charges and have requested the earliest possible retrial date.

2018-01-19 19:45:19 UTC

NEW JERSEY SENATE SEAT IN PLAY

2018-01-19 19:45:24 UTC

hell yeah

2018-01-19 19:45:28 UTC

the thing is...it's still New Jersey

2018-01-19 19:45:39 UTC

I think Chris Christie trashed the reputation of the GOP there

2018-01-19 19:46:05 UTC

assuming Menendez resigns, the replacement Dem still has an relatively easy battle

2018-01-19 19:46:28 UTC

if Menendez DOESN'T resign, the GOP challenger has the advantage, especially if they aren't connected to Christie and run a solid campaign

2018-01-19 19:47:32 UTC

Christie was an awful governor, but he wasn't elected because the GOP became popular, he was elected as a rejection of Obama

2018-01-19 19:50:10 UTC

from what I remember, it was because Corzine was awful

2018-01-19 19:50:19 UTC

I don't think Obama had much to do with it

2018-01-19 19:52:04 UTC

the Democrats in general were unpopular

2018-01-19 19:52:30 UTC

Christie is one of the few conservatives I hate more than the leftists

2018-01-19 20:21:26 UTC

@jackborne1893 why would you say that

2018-01-19 20:22:49 UTC

The only leftist I could like is one who's an immigration hardliner, but those don't exist.

2018-01-19 20:40:40 UTC

thing is about the leftists in government is that don't give an inch for anything

2018-01-19 20:41:25 UTC

people talk about Manchin being better, but he votes the same way

2018-01-19 20:41:32 UTC

what matters is the votes, really.

2018-01-19 20:54:02 UTC

Hey people

2018-01-19 20:54:18 UTC

what is it

2018-01-19 20:54:34 UTC

Remember this picture of Joe Biden touching that boyโ€™s penis

2018-01-19 20:54:40 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/404015831396122624/image.png

2018-01-19 20:54:56 UTC

"no serious guys till you're 30"

2018-01-19 21:17:49 UTC

@Rhodesiaboo What state you in

2018-01-19 21:19:56 UTC

Ohio

2018-01-19 21:20:07 UTC

what district

2018-01-19 21:20:20 UTC

there are no competitive districts in OH this year

2018-01-19 21:20:31 UTC

so?

2018-01-19 21:20:33 UTC

only the Senate seat is

2018-01-19 21:20:41 UTC

And the governorship

2018-01-19 21:20:48 UTC

ah yes

2018-01-19 21:22:17 UTC

I think the person running for the Republicans is Mike DeWine, the dems will pick either Richard Corday or Dennis Kucinich.

2018-01-19 21:22:49 UTC

In the Senate race itโ€™s weird thanks to the fact Mandel dropped out

2018-01-19 22:03:40 UTC

new thread

2018-01-19 22:03:43 UTC

got dub trips

2018-01-19 22:07:30 UTC

someone bump the thread by asking a question

2018-01-19 22:07:50 UTC

instead of discussing in the discord, discuss in the thread so it gets bumped up

2018-01-19 23:40:03 UTC

someone bump the thread

2018-01-19 23:40:58 UTC

Hey

2018-01-19 23:41:21 UTC

whats up

2018-01-19 23:41:29 UTC

where in Ohio are you from ? Columbus ?

2018-01-19 23:42:18 UTC

Suburbs of Cleveland

2018-01-19 23:42:28 UTC

Lake County

2018-01-19 23:44:16 UTC

how popular is Kucinich over there

2018-01-19 23:44:49 UTC

btw did someone post the Discord link in the thread today? I'm guessing that's how you found this

2018-01-19 23:45:34 UTC

I donโ€™t know

2018-01-19 23:45:43 UTC

But he was mayor of Cleveland during the 70s

2018-01-19 23:45:53 UTC

When the river catched on fire

2018-01-19 23:46:18 UTC

yeah, I know. I loved him back when I was a leftist

2018-01-19 23:47:00 UTC

In this state, the dems keep running the same people

2018-01-20 01:16:40 UTC

bump this thread every 10 minutes or so guys

2018-01-20 02:38:25 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/404102339713171457/justice_democrats.png

2018-01-20 02:38:55 UTC

>turning on your own

2018-01-20 02:39:13 UTC

save this

2018-01-20 02:39:14 UTC

let's meme it

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