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Solomon temple thread is...fine, I guess. Better than the others
China happening? Eh, sure
but then you have a blatant shill America hate thread
you'd think that with the amount of shit that gets plastered on this website on a minute to minute basis that no one would have any qualms about a thread dedicated to getting people elected
then a clickbait thread about the UK, then another 'women suck' thread that would be more appropriate for /r9k/
these people live in a fantasy if they think their little turner diaries race war bullshit will ever fucking happen
if we want to get results, we do it with politics
IMO I think the mods or janitors should have regular sticky threads for the following topics: President Trump General, Red Storm General, Culture General (pertaining to cultural practices like religion, different foods, gender wars, shit like that), Biology General (can' t think of a better name, but basically things like race, height, that sort of thing), Europe General (self-explanatory), Middle East General (including Syria)
oh, and definitely an eceleb general
make it a rule that every eceleb thread other than the general gets a ban
eh, that'd be much more productive than what we have atm
I just can't get past the amount of pure garbage there is just every second
I used to go there daily because there was nowhere else I'd have this kind of info, but it's just depressing going in there on a common basis because of all the trash
have you looked at 8chan's /pol/
I wonder if we can make a Red Storm General on that board and have the mods sticky it
not a big 8chan guy, I haven't really considered it
although I'm not sure how 8chan mods run /pol/
I wonder if they're overly strict
I know they are when it comes to lefty/pol/
do me a favor
bump the general with this image attached
and write about how bullshit these slide threads are
yeah, but mods are different on each board when it comes to 8chan
the excuses the shills use on the threads are pathetic
>this isn't for activism it's for lulz xDDDDD
it's like they want society to continue degrading
why do so many people on the alt lite and on /pol/ talk about Austin Petersen
SAY IT WITH ME
open borders is never someone to vote for
aye and after she gets blumpf and fence impeached she'll be president
well, I'm gonna go for a while ok
I don't even know who the fuck Austin Petersen is
just googled him
some guy who lost to Mr. A Leppo ?
sure, 4chan used to be about lulz instead of faggy activism back in the day ('Anonymous' was then coopted by dipshits)
but the events of the 2016 election essentially made /pol/ into a de facto arena for online activism
He's a former libertarians going Republican so he's pretty popular among the Libertarian crowd
what do you guys think of the idea of accelerationism
essentially, that you need to deliberately get extreme leftists into power so that the system burns down which will entail a far right ethnic nationalist takeover
I personally think it's fucking retarded
why would anyone bar a complete fucking psychopath want that to happen
that rests on the assumption that your side will be 100% guaranteed to win after a total collapse
I'd rather have my ethnostate done by policy
yet faggots on /pol/ think it's a better option than doing what we're doing
hopefully it doesn't take place
okay, so you ruin every country on earth, then a civil war happens
that's essentially what happened to Germany during the Great Depression
don't these people consider the possibility of losing?
it's just that....they ended up losing the following World War
that's the fucking thing
then white genocide would happen and sooner than they think
read the thread I posted
they didn't even bring up the idea that they could lose
I think the last post summarized it well though
>shooting yourself in the head and expecting the tumor to be cured
sounds about right
to be fair
it's just incomprehensible how schizophrenic some of these people are
a lot of right-wing movements have resulted as a backlash from leftists in power
Reagan was a result of Carter, and Republicans won big in 1994 because of Clinton
Seems accelerationism is the path forward in Germany. The right in America is able to have so much power because the conditions are getting worse and worse every day.
If I was a German I might actually vote for the most pro open border party, because that will add fuel to the fire and bring about the desired result quicker.
it's just that....how are you going to execute it properly
you run the risk of making everything irreversibly worse
if Clinton had won in 2016, Republicans would sweep Congress
I mean, that's not always going to end well, if you overdo it, then it's over
look at South Africa ffs
well, we can't even know for sure that the Republicans would have swept congress if Clinton won
maybe it would lead to further expansion of cuckservatism and cracking down on spaces where the actual right can organize
the 10% -- whites in South Africa don't seem to be genociding the 90% blacks any time soon
also, if it happened in the USA, there probably would be all sorts of different factions
it wouldn't be "hurr whites vs shitskins"
a lot of people on /pol/ think we'll balkanize
they just don't get the American character
the globalists could co-opt drone technology
I like this place, I want to make it better
many in the U.S. Military might be sympathetic to the right, but many of them will simply not fight for ethno nationalist causes BECAUSE MANY OF THEM ARE MINORITIES
Jesus, these people actually do think this is the Turner Diaries
yeah, are you reading through the 4plebs archive I linked?
So in that way Hillary Clinton would've been way better for Republicans because they would be in the House and Senate
these fucking LARPers think winning a civil war will be just like the vidya gaems
there is a very, very, very small fraction of the population who would be willing to tolerate war on American soil
they don't get pragmatism and getting to where you want to be steadily
Do /pol/fags actually believe in shit like white nationalism, the Jewish Question, etc. or is it just a meme
remember that EVERY SINGLE WAR since the Civil War has been OFF American soil
if total collapse happens, how do these faggots know that people won't be clamoring for communism?
I mean, if it comes to having the guns taken, I'll fight, but I'm not going to fucking cross my fingers for it
there are many people who would rather have communism than starvation and bullets
yeah, I'd fight too
but I'd rather use my fucking brains and persuasive skills
if it came down to a fight, it would boil down to random chance
@Snickers yeah, there's a nugget of truth in it, but the thing is a lot of them go way too far with it
some retard could get lucky and shoot me in the head
or I could win a battle with my side, only to have us all killed instantly by a drone strike
someone like Jared Taylor is much more appealing than this accelerationist idiocy
Right, but are most of them legitimately pushing for a white ethnostate, questioning how Jews run everything, etc. or are they just LARPing for whatever reason
it's hard to tell who is LARPing and who isn't
however, I would bet that the kinds of posters who go "hurr instead of voting in the midterms, just take up arms and start a race war instead" are larpers or shills looking to get people in trouble
Trump's approval in the most vulnerable districts:
Competitive Republican House Seats: 15
1. Arizona-2 (42%)/California-25 (36%)/New Jersey-2 (45%)
2. California-39 (41%)
3. California-48 (50%)
4. California-49 (45%)
5. Colorado-6 (37%)
6. Florida-26 (41%)
7. Florida-27 (48%)
8. Minnesota-2 (42%)
9. Nebraska-2 (43%)
10. New York-19 (35%)
11. New York-22 (41%)
12. Texas-7 (41%)
13. Texas-23 (37%)
14. Virginia-10 (46%)
15. Washington-8 (33%)
I'm pushing to make the demographics better too, I'm not blind, but as for ethnostates where there's strict rules for who is allowed to stay and who gets deported isn't going to realistically happen
@🎃Boo-ton🎃 This begs the question...how do we know these polls are sampled properly?
I'd say pushing family values back onto families, and having an immigration system similar to pre-'65 is how I'd put us back on track
in the Alabama election, there was a poll right before that said Jones would win by 10% (far from it) and another that said Moore would win by 10% (nope)
I wouldn't trust polls since they can be very ambiguous.
@FLanon yeah, that makes much more sense than "hurr, let's import the entire third world...and then we're GUARANTEED to win!"
data's better than no data, that's how I see it
yeah, but the question is...how do you use data to make decisions ?
whether or not Trump is popular in those districts, we still need to put as much effort in as possible
now, you could argue that we should ignore safe red and safe blue areas
but it's hard to tell what's truly 'safe'
tbh the Media should just tell what each politicians' voting record is instead of shoving polls saying who is in the lead, so people can make decisiosn based on policy not advancing whatever politician is ahead
pollsters should ask voters what politicians should do differently
the media doesn't care about democracy and making voters informed
they're in cahoots with a lot of them, wikileaks showed this
I can understand turning to more radical means if things collapse...but voting for people for the purpose of making things collapse is so retarded
not only are you not guaranteed to win, you're also not guaranteed to cause the collapse as quickly as you might want
if it happens, but not to make it happen deliberately
there's better ways of going at it
if we had better margins in the house and senate, we'd have a) a wall b) a better immigration policy, literally fixes the country in generations
maybe the 4plebs result for 'accelerationism' is skewed because only the dumbasses who support it will use the term, but there seems to be a significant amount of /pol/lacks who think it's a proper strategy
I just can't figure out why anyone would want this kind of shit unless you do nothing but sit and watch gladiator movies your whole life
it's so cartoony
I'm looking through the archives right now
apparently Varg wanted it back when the French election was happening
I remember people saying that Macron winning was 'good' because Le Pen would give the kind of 'kosher nationalism' that Trump was giving which "isn't working"
lmao didn't her dad say the lampshades were something of history or something of that effect?
you've got to be pragmatic, that's how you do it
there's multiple ways you can bring the country back to our favor, not just by setting it on fire
that's like social keynesianism
If we can get the Immigration Act of 1924 reinstated all our problems will be solved
RAISE can fix so much shit
Blackpilled accelerationists are the ghetto niggers of nationalism. They haven't accomplished anything for decades but whenever there's a hint of even a fraction of what they want being normalized they lash out, because if it isn't 100% of what they want they feel betrayed and change takes actual effort while jerking off about muh day of the rope while Muhammad fucks their wife and Juan takes their job at least gives them some petty moral satisfaction that everyone else is as shit as they are.
Accelerationists are the biggest blue pilled cucks.
There is zero proof that it would work, which it wouldn't if you spent even 2 seconds pondering the fact. There are only 2 possible outcomes of importing a shit ton of niggers and arabs will result. Either the eventual mixing and genociding of all whites or the much less likely outcome our successors in the future eventually driving the shitskins out with violence but the damage would be done and the shitskins would have left their genetic mark on our people just like with southern europeans.
If your a nationalist and your advocating that we fix our problems by opening our borders because muh acceleration of muh collapse, you deserve the rope.
RAISE would shift immigration away from Latin America to Europe and Asia, but largely Asia
it's a good start
more people can look at debates for this kind of stuff which I see on Warski all the time
Trump definitely wants more European immigration, he talked about it on the campaign trail and he reaffirmed it during the daca talks
the thing is, how are we going to get more European immigration
I guess you can rely on the fact that Europe is going to shit
and you can try getting more South Africans
if someone charismatic could make these kinds of arguments in politics, we could make something work.
There's a lot of young faces on the right, and it's definitely not for any gay classical liberalism or liberalist nonsense
I see a lot of these debates on it, and the comments always see the sense in maintaining the european nature of the US
I have no doubt that Europe will fix itself at some point, the thing is about the immigrants over there are mostly opportunistic economic migrants who don't stay if they don't get anything
I remember a story about Denmark where they slashed benefits for migrants and then in a single night, 40000 people left the country
Europe's beyond salvation
With the crackdown of ideas and weapons, any right-wing movement is almost impossible
too much power in the government
I can see that sort of argument made for a lot of areas, but I also see parties like the AfD in Germany making a lot of gains and feeling at least a bit of hope for them
it's a tough thing
the accelerationism meme may manifest over there, I hope they get unfucked before it comes to that, but I'm not quite sure
there's a huge difference between Europeans in the 1920s/1930s and Europeans now...back then, they had just went through a World War and were FAR from being giant pussies
point being, the migrants there would go back to their countries if they had no social net
I'm not sure if militaristic states could easily arise in this day and age
Europe has seen 7 decades of peace
multiple generations have been raised being coddled by the state and never experiencing anything close to the horrors of war
I'm not really thinking too far in that direction, but I'd say that cutting welfare for immigrants could solve the problem easily
change has to come through legitimate political action
but the thing is, it's become very difficult for that to happen, for obvious reasons (thoughtcrime is a real thing over there)
it's like you look at Poland, there's no immigrants there even though it's in the Schengen area, the reason? Economic migrants want money.
I guess Generation Identitaire and groups like it can train themselves to not be pussies
I believe eventually what would happen is that there would be a lot of nations over there which obtain governments similar to the one Austria has, and after that, migrants would have an exodus back to their homelands
if there's no free ride, there's no point in staying, I'd rather be living in a homeland which speaks my language, which there's plenty of in the Middle-East
I mean, put yourself in their shoes. You speak Arabic, you go to Europe because they don't offer dental in Turkey or Jordan. You live an easy life, then the government takes away your incentive. Why wouldn't you go back? Wouldn't you much rather be in a country which speaks your language than which doesn't?
yeah, it makes sense to just let them go away after cutting their aid
hopefully it's that simple
I seriously doubt that 90% are there because they legitimately want to do the Islamic world domination stuff.
It's much more realistic that a person wants to live comfortably. Occam's razor.
yeah, that makes sense
51 seats guaranteed so far in the minimal
looks like a good analysis
the amount of beige states is very whitepilling
I like the fact it includes a candidate next to it
is this the bookmakers analysis?
sauce would be pretty good
IMO Wisconsin is pretty winnable
based on this we should expect 54/55 senators on our side?
that's very good
that's about the margin we have in the house
56 is an extreme stretch
wouldn't be too certain about that
I'd put our cap at 59
what is the sauce btw
i collaborated the data myself
it's probably better than most polls
the betting percentages had to come from somewhere though, right?
+3.6% in the last week
so that's good
good night guys
should we get Bradly Manning the nomination just to fuck up the Dems chances in that election?
probably would be the best chance of getting that seat in a state that is extremely blue
lol at this post
new thread goys
keep this bumped
half tempted to write a quick site for this stuff, like that guy did with the tax calculator
>tfw I don't think that Chelsea Manning isn't necessarily a bad choice for the US Senate
I think* whelp
I saw an article stating that some of the more centrist dem are bashing it/her
She will prob lose real hard is she runs
Yeah. Most of the Democratic establishment is shilling against her hard.
Even if she wins or loses, as long as she exposes the corrupt elite agenda of the surveillance state, the war crimes committed by the US, etc. I'd say its a win
But realistically speaking, she's going to probably lose to Cardin anyways
It's hard to say, especially with social justice and girl power on every leftie's tongue. Though, its hard to say what the population of Leftist millenial sjw types is in Maryland.
So I've researched and found some projections for the house that are fairly whitepilling
thanks for the good work
they're from fairvote, a pretty accurate firm from what I've found
basically, the high confidence projections they have (which from past analyses they've accurately predicted 99.7% of, so it's extremely likely they'll get all of them right bar one or two at most) has 205 R seats and 163 D seats
this gives a field of about 63 seats in competition
218 seats are needed to have a majority, meaning Rs would need to grab at least 13 seats out of the 63 in play in order to keep the house
obviously we want much more than this for legislative purposes, but this effectively prevents any impeachment attempts
Now, if there's a 2006-esque "blue wave" with a similar makeup to that year, w/ 54% dems and 46% Rs, that still gives Rs a majority of 226 seats, at least according to FairVote
this is about 52% of the House of Representatives which would be Republican, or to give a frame of reference, about the same margin that we had in the senate before Moore's loss
Not good in my opinion, but not apocalyptic. I think the average House Republican is much more on Trump's side than the average House Democrat (anecdotal, but still my opinion), so Trump would still be able to get some good bills in I assume.
thanks, btw can you bump the thread
btw don't let these results get you delusional or anything
for all I know, the dems could get a ton more seats than what's considered the "blue wave" in that scenario.
our goals this year are to:
a) maintain the margins in the House, as they're decent at getting legislation passed even with Cuck Ryan.
b) increase the margins in the Senate, as they're the ones effectively blocking legislation from getting passed with a couple Senators
c) maybe get Ryan unseated, as he is a poison pill for Trump's agenda.
The cucks in the senate are already retiring, so we'd also need to make sure to prevent Romney from getting office in Utah.
gotta go, anyways.
have a good night anon, thanks for your work