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@FLanon Yes. We should aim for 67 Senate Seats
We need to realistically go for 54-60
Even if its 10 less, that is great
Florida is leaning more and more towards rick scott
The FL GOP has to pour a lot more in the governor's race
We can survive Bill Nelson again, we're fucked if Gillum becomes governor
With 57 seats, we could repeal Obamacare with a real non skinny bill, we could pass 25 billion for wall funding, we could use the Nuclear option for The Goodlatte bill but in the senate and have up to 7 defections
I think the best hope is that We get a big surprise In October, and all 10 of the Democrats in Red States lose.
@FLanon Can a bill like the Goodlatte bill pass without 60 votes?
And by can I mean is it possible, even if theoretical
Like the leadership doesn't do it
If Trump put their heads in a vice
But he has to get the balls to do something like that in the first place.
Threaten their re-elections, stuff like that
If we get rid of all 10 of those Red State Democrat Senators, and just that, we will be fine
Because it means we will have 61 seats, and everything will be fine
primaries are over, so he can't really do that
waging a civil war against the GOPe is what Bannon tried
After the midterms
sadly that backfired
Well Trump has a lot more power among the GOP electorate than Bannon.
that's still risky. He needs the GOPe incumbents' votes. It's really risky to be so openly antagonistic against congressmen from your own party
And the entire 2016 primary season was a war against the GOPe.
He won.
Now he has the bully pulpit.
He's got to use it.
he wasn't the President in 2016
he wasn't focused on getting legislation passed
Exactly.
and to get legislation passed...you have to get along with GOPe incumbents
He wasn't the president, and he still beat them.
that's one of the main troubles of the Trump Presidency
He has to pull them in his direction.
Work with the GOPe? Or risk fighting them?
RS.
You saw that story about them dissing the idea of the wall.
campaigning for the Presidency is a different beast from having the Presidency
If he works with them, it will never be built and we'll be doomed to a few more years of tax cuts followed by a one-party state.
This is a hail mary, he has no other options if he actually wants to do something meanwhile with his presidency.
the best time for that would be early 2019
What do we do if we lose the House and Senate? Immigrate to Eastern Europe?
No.
Fuck that.
I'm not Polish.
So what do we do?
If we are going to become a One-Party State, what do we do? Rebel against them? You keep calling me stupid for wanting to rebel.
well, what did the left do when the GOP took the House in 2010
also what do you mean by 'rebel'
no fedposting here pls
Still go into the political system and take over one party.
Even if we won't win, we can act as a megaphone for a mass-redpill
But the problem is theyโll censor us
And from there, if we have to do what we must, then we shall.
Theyโll wonโt let our voices be heard
Patrick Buchanan isn't being censored.
We have to go to these positions of power innocuously, then open our true intentions to an extent when the time is right.
This assumes we're already past the point of being unable to win the country electorally
after November 6, our focuses will shift to:
-converting milquetoast right wingers
-analyzing all of the pertinent House and Senate races to see what could have been done differently
If not, then we take a different approach and try to make an America First appeal that holds back on the identity stuff enough to be able to win
From a position of power, we can call for the formation of militias, going from the top-down is going to work a lot better than sitting with a gun for a "revolution" to form out of nowhere until you die.
What do we do if a Senator has to resign?
?
Like what do we do if a special election has to happen when a senator has to resign?
Try to win?
The fuck did that question come from
I donโt know
All the scandals going on
Al Franken having to resign
@Rhodesiaboo try to win it, obviously
that's certainly something we can do in 2019 if it happens
I think weโre going to have at least one Special Election in 2019
Yeah, McCain's seat
Its actually 2020
no, that's 2020
Is it?
unless Kyl somehow steps down
yeah
He is serving for one term
Kyl has that seat until January 2021
well
alright
Lets put all our energy into a replacement for Kyl right after the midterms
Paul Gosar for Senate!
You think that MeToo will take down Other senators?.
Gosar has cosponsored legislation to repeal the 14th Amendment, thus eliminating birthright citizenship for children born in the US to undocumented immigrants.[43][44] In an interview in May 2018, he accused immigration attorneys providing legal advice to undocumented immigrants of committing a crime: "What we need to do is also hold those that are actually helping โ what they're saying is help, but assisting in a crime โ to be prosecuted as well."
Fat acceptnace
Nice
He is a congressman for Arizona's 4th district
He spoke for Tommy Robinson
I think our best hope in 2019 is if MeToo takes down a Senator in a State that we can win.
@Earl of Morrrrgantown Tommy Robinson is a Jew supporter
@Rhodesiaboo muh zionist shill. Do you really think a potential senate candidate talk about Jews and win? Be pragmatic for once
I see
death to fat people
You can talk about AIPAC and maybe dog whistle about Netanyahu's war mongerer tendencies but start talking about the JQ and you're fucked
I'll vote for that person but most won't
I see
yeah, we have to be reasonable
package these issues into a presentable form
I think the best hope is just to MeToo some Democrat senators In Red States
@Rhodesiaboo We already are.
In your state
And thatโs good, but we need to get them in other states
Well how to we MeToo Stabenow and Baldwin exactly?
@FLanon Stabenow is an old fart. Try to dig up dirt about some racist remark she made years ago
When she was off her meds
Why not MeToo Corey Booker?
Not up for re-election this year
When is he up for re-election?
Wait yes he is
He was sworn in in 2013
He has to be
Meme the second one like her ex husband was Bill and she was Hillary
wait hes not up for re-election? tf?
let me c
Also, her ex hubsand was 11 years younger
This is gold
Does MeToo go after Pedophiles?
They don't go after democrats, don't we know this
@Dillpick88 Al Franken was forced to resign
Also, Debbie apparently knew this happened for 1 and a half years before divorcing
In 2008, Stabenow's then husband, Thomas Athans, co-founder of the liberal TalkUSA Radio network, "was implicated in a prostitution sting." He "admitted to police he paid a prostitute for sex." He went online and arranged a $150 tryst at a Detroit hotel. Stabenow and Athans were divorced a year and a half later.
hmmm
<@&414591534621786133> This is perfect
@Dillpick88 it was a special election to fill in Lautenberg's seat after he died
Booker will be up for reelection in 2020
ah
We got a lot of MeToo stuff we could do, thatโs for sure
How's everyone today
Iโm fine
I took a trip yesterday
where have we seen this pattern before
something promising pops up and is peeled back by the white house
never happened
Promises Made. Promises Kept. โข
listen it's not his fault
if he changes anything, it'll be screwed over
so he has to do nothing
better than a democrat though
grab the popcorn lads
looks like this is the Pussygate equivalent of 2018
๐ | **Barron Trump leveled up!**
*demanding the opportunity*
come on.
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP senators are stupid enough to let this nonsense delay it either
the main predicament of all this is that the base isn't going to be very motivated to vote for their cuckold Senators
And they'd be completely justified in doing so
They should have voted on Kavanaugh 3 days ago and not even have entertained this nonsense.
Instead we'll be lucky if we get this vote by October.
>And they'd be completely justified in doing so
no
that's the sad fact of life in 2018
Yes.
no
They are impotent.
I don't think it'd be a good idea.
the stakes are too high to stay home
it's understandable to want to stay home
But I mean come on. How can you fucking trust these people.
well, you can't trust the other people either
Yes you can.
........
You can trust them to screw us over and make the country a one-party state
so
...
why would you vote for that
I wouldn't
All I'm saying is that there aren't any democrats that will be staying home because they caved in to Trump.
They're doing what their voters want.
The GOP is absolutely impotent.
yep, but that's not a reason to commit seppuku
I am sick of their shit.
They are spineless little cucks.
They deserve everything that comes to them.
Every seat lost.
you do realize that you're only going to be hurt by that, right?
I am not saying that we should let them lose.
I am saying that *if* they do lose, which is incredibly likely considering what they're doing, it will be entirely their mistake. They do not deserve their seats. Just because anything else is an F does not mean we should be happy with a D-.
They fill a valuable vacuum that people far better could take up.
If Kavanaugh doesn't get nominated, this will be disastrous.
A SECOND case.
A woman also deeply embedded within leftist partisan politics.
Anyways, I'm going to pour even more hours over the next few weeks for the campaign, I'll probably have less time to talk. The importance is immeasurable.
I'll also make an attempt to personally meet DeSantis and discuss the campaign if I have the opportunity, there is a lot that has yet to be done.
wish me luck
@FLanon good, gotta stop the likes of Gillum from ruining your state after all. Have you recruited any IRL friends to your cause
you should talk to the potential voters IRL what they think of the Kavanaugh accusations
Voting, yes. Campaigning, no.
and if they'll get demoralized
by the GOP cucking
one thing I hope is that lots of the low-info voters are gonna be out of the loop and so won't be demoralized
Well I'm trying to drive turnout up, not down.
it's the hardcore right wing politicos who might stay home
I'm not a polling agency.
hmm
are you going to even mention Kavanaugh
If I think it'll drive turnout down, no.
getting Senator Rick Scott on board might help, but then again...
If he gets nominated and it seems that he's popular, then I absolutely will.
I am campaigning for DeSantis.
Rick Scott has so much attention drawn to him, not enough for DeSantis.
most recent poll has desantis gaining quite a bit on gillum
he was behind by 4-5 in other polls
Could be an outlier, but those 15% undecideds are very promising
campaigning will make the difference
I think a lot of them will buckle for DeSantis.
Absolutely.
maybe Rick Scott ends up pulling de Santis over the finish line
it's just a matter of whether scott fears that connecting himself to DeSantis might harm his chances
I will attempt to contact DeSantis and express my grievances about the yard signs and make sure he is actually against felon voting and will oppose it after the election ends.
Well that makes no sense considering they've done joint rallies.
He definitely has a good aesthetic.
Hopefully he can make a good connection while I'm in college as well, that can be incredibly valuable if I'm joining a political organization.
Oh definitely.
He hit the veteran point hard in the primary.
That's always a good one to make.
yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1YP_zZJFXs - this ad has been panned big time.
he needs to expand beyond trump and fight as a floridian
"hes coaching his children to be racist" -dems
I saw that ad in the primary
Very cringy.
His primary campaign was pretty much "I'm the guy Trump likes"
He has to push the veteran angle home and also how awful Gillum is.
florida is still hard for trump, so it had some good impacts ig
Of course.
it's decent for wininmg the primary
but winning the primary and winning the general can be two very different beasts
but anything he says against gillum will be hit hard with "BUT THATS RACIST" by democrats
FL Republicans preferred Trump over Rubio by 20 points.
He is good among FL Republicans.
Issue is FL Republicans aren't the only thing in the state.
And I mean he can be reasonable about it. There's a ton of policy issues he can whack him on.
gillum can say "white racist" all he wants, but if desantis says anything about "black socialist" he's done for according to dems
Hopefully they debate, Gillum is bad in the interviews I've seen with him.
yeah
gillum got out during the primaries but after he won the primary he's stayed silent apart from twitter
Probably consults deeply with staff.
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