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2018-09-23 21:28:38 UTC

@FLanon Yes. We should aim for 67 Senate Seats

2018-09-23 21:28:55 UTC

We need to realistically go for 54-60

2018-09-23 21:28:57 UTC

Even if its 10 less, that is great

2018-09-23 21:29:07 UTC

Florida is leaning more and more towards rick scott

2018-09-23 21:29:26 UTC

The FL GOP has to pour a lot more in the governor's race

2018-09-23 21:29:45 UTC

We can survive Bill Nelson again, we're fucked if Gillum becomes governor

2018-09-23 21:30:00 UTC

With 57 seats, we could repeal Obamacare with a real non skinny bill, we could pass 25 billion for wall funding, we could use the Nuclear option for The Goodlatte bill but in the senate and have up to 7 defections

2018-09-23 21:30:06 UTC

I think the best hope is that We get a big surprise In October, and all 10 of the Democrats in Red States lose.

2018-09-23 21:30:43 UTC

@FLanon Can a bill like the Goodlatte bill pass without 60 votes?

2018-09-23 21:31:01 UTC

And by can I mean is it possible, even if theoretical

2018-09-23 21:31:10 UTC

Like the leadership doesn't do it

2018-09-23 21:31:45 UTC

If Trump put their heads in a vice

2018-09-23 21:32:20 UTC

But he has to get the balls to do something like that in the first place.

2018-09-23 21:32:28 UTC

Threaten their re-elections, stuff like that

2018-09-23 21:32:28 UTC

If we get rid of all 10 of those Red State Democrat Senators, and just that, we will be fine

2018-09-23 21:32:50 UTC

Because it means we will have 61 seats, and everything will be fine

2018-09-23 21:33:04 UTC

primaries are over, so he can't really do that

2018-09-23 21:33:18 UTC

waging a civil war against the GOPe is what Bannon tried

2018-09-23 21:33:19 UTC

After the midterms

2018-09-23 21:33:20 UTC

sadly that backfired

2018-09-23 21:33:34 UTC

Well Trump has a lot more power among the GOP electorate than Bannon.

2018-09-23 21:34:28 UTC

that's still risky. He needs the GOPe incumbents' votes. It's really risky to be so openly antagonistic against congressmen from your own party

2018-09-23 21:34:32 UTC

And the entire 2016 primary season was a war against the GOPe.

2018-09-23 21:34:36 UTC

He won.

2018-09-23 21:34:45 UTC

Now he has the bully pulpit.

2018-09-23 21:34:55 UTC

He's got to use it.

2018-09-23 21:35:03 UTC

he wasn't the President in 2016

2018-09-23 21:35:11 UTC

he wasn't focused on getting legislation passed

2018-09-23 21:35:15 UTC

Exactly.

2018-09-23 21:35:22 UTC

and to get legislation passed...you have to get along with GOPe incumbents

2018-09-23 21:35:24 UTC

He wasn't the president, and he still beat them.

2018-09-23 21:35:34 UTC

that's one of the main troubles of the Trump Presidency

2018-09-23 21:35:40 UTC

He has to pull them in his direction.

2018-09-23 21:35:51 UTC

Work with the GOPe? Or risk fighting them?

2018-09-23 21:36:00 UTC

RS.

2018-09-23 21:36:12 UTC

You saw that story about them dissing the idea of the wall.

2018-09-23 21:36:34 UTC

campaigning for the Presidency is a different beast from having the Presidency

2018-09-23 21:36:39 UTC

If he works with them, it will never be built and we'll be doomed to a few more years of tax cuts followed by a one-party state.

2018-09-23 21:36:58 UTC

This is a hail mary, he has no other options if he actually wants to do something meanwhile with his presidency.

2018-09-23 21:37:00 UTC

the best time for that would be early 2019

2018-09-23 21:37:02 UTC

What do we do if we lose the House and Senate? Immigrate to Eastern Europe?

2018-09-23 21:37:16 UTC

No.

2018-09-23 21:37:34 UTC

Fuck that.

2018-09-23 21:37:46 UTC

I'm not Polish.

2018-09-23 21:38:03 UTC

So what do we do?

2018-09-23 21:38:48 UTC

If we are going to become a One-Party State, what do we do? Rebel against them? You keep calling me stupid for wanting to rebel.

2018-09-23 21:39:05 UTC

well, what did the left do when the GOP took the House in 2010

2018-09-23 21:39:14 UTC

also what do you mean by 'rebel'

2018-09-23 21:39:20 UTC

no fedposting here pls

2018-09-23 21:39:22 UTC

Still go into the political system and take over one party.

2018-09-23 21:39:38 UTC

Even if we won't win, we can act as a megaphone for a mass-redpill

2018-09-23 21:39:47 UTC

But the problem is theyโ€™ll censor us

2018-09-23 21:39:50 UTC

And from there, if we have to do what we must, then we shall.

2018-09-23 21:39:58 UTC

Theyโ€™ll wonโ€™t let our voices be heard

2018-09-23 21:40:37 UTC

Patrick Buchanan isn't being censored.

2018-09-23 21:41:16 UTC

We have to go to these positions of power innocuously, then open our true intentions to an extent when the time is right.

2018-09-23 21:41:42 UTC

This assumes we're already past the point of being unable to win the country electorally

2018-09-23 21:41:56 UTC

after November 6, our focuses will shift to:

-converting milquetoast right wingers
-analyzing all of the pertinent House and Senate races to see what could have been done differently

2018-09-23 21:42:50 UTC

If not, then we take a different approach and try to make an America First appeal that holds back on the identity stuff enough to be able to win

2018-09-23 21:43:50 UTC

From a position of power, we can call for the formation of militias, going from the top-down is going to work a lot better than sitting with a gun for a "revolution" to form out of nowhere until you die.

2018-09-23 21:44:08 UTC

What do we do if a Senator has to resign?

2018-09-23 21:44:14 UTC

?

2018-09-23 21:45:16 UTC

Like what do we do if a special election has to happen when a senator has to resign?

2018-09-23 21:46:27 UTC

Try to win?

2018-09-23 21:46:36 UTC

The fuck did that question come from

2018-09-23 21:47:06 UTC

I donโ€™t know

2018-09-23 21:47:13 UTC

All the scandals going on

2018-09-23 21:47:24 UTC

Al Franken having to resign

2018-09-23 21:49:41 UTC

@Rhodesiaboo try to win it, obviously

2018-09-23 21:49:52 UTC

that's certainly something we can do in 2019 if it happens

2018-09-23 21:50:34 UTC

I think weโ€™re going to have at least one Special Election in 2019

2018-09-23 21:51:16 UTC

Yeah, McCain's seat

2018-09-23 21:51:34 UTC

Its actually 2020

2018-09-23 21:51:39 UTC

no, that's 2020

2018-09-23 21:51:42 UTC

Is it?

2018-09-23 21:51:44 UTC

unless Kyl somehow steps down

2018-09-23 21:51:45 UTC

yeah

2018-09-23 21:51:52 UTC

He is serving for one term

2018-09-23 21:51:53 UTC

Kyl has that seat until January 2021

2018-09-23 21:51:55 UTC

well

2018-09-23 21:52:00 UTC

alright

2018-09-23 21:52:10 UTC

Lets put all our energy into a replacement for Kyl right after the midterms

2018-09-23 21:52:59 UTC

Paul Gosar for Senate!

2018-09-23 21:53:06 UTC

You think that MeToo will take down Other senators?.

2018-09-23 21:53:24 UTC

Gosar has cosponsored legislation to repeal the 14th Amendment, thus eliminating birthright citizenship for children born in the US to undocumented immigrants.[43][44] In an interview in May 2018, he accused immigration attorneys providing legal advice to undocumented immigrants of committing a crime: "What we need to do is also hold those that are actually helping โ€” what they're saying is help, but assisting in a crime โ€” to be prosecuted as well."

2018-09-23 21:53:45 UTC

Fat acceptnace

2018-09-23 21:53:46 UTC

Nice

2018-09-23 21:53:47 UTC

He is a congressman for Arizona's 4th district

2018-09-23 21:54:30 UTC

He spoke for Tommy Robinson

2018-09-23 21:54:38 UTC

I think our best hope in 2019 is if MeToo takes down a Senator in a State that we can win.

2018-09-23 21:54:51 UTC

@Earl of Morrrrgantown Tommy Robinson is a Jew supporter

2018-09-23 21:55:32 UTC

@Rhodesiaboo muh zionist shill. Do you really think a potential senate candidate talk about Jews and win? Be pragmatic for once

2018-09-23 21:55:48 UTC

I see

2018-09-23 21:55:49 UTC

death to fat people

2018-09-23 21:56:52 UTC

You can talk about AIPAC and maybe dog whistle about Netanyahu's war mongerer tendencies but start talking about the JQ and you're fucked

2018-09-23 21:57:10 UTC

I'll vote for that person but most won't

2018-09-23 21:57:17 UTC

I see

2018-09-23 21:57:43 UTC

yeah, we have to be reasonable

2018-09-23 21:57:52 UTC

package these issues into a presentable form

2018-09-23 21:57:54 UTC

I think the best hope is just to MeToo some Democrat senators In Red States

2018-09-23 21:58:10 UTC

@Rhodesiaboo We already are.

2018-09-23 21:58:12 UTC

In your state

2018-09-23 21:58:27 UTC

And thatโ€™s good, but we need to get them in other states

2018-09-23 21:59:19 UTC

Well how to we MeToo Stabenow and Baldwin exactly?

2018-09-23 22:00:01 UTC

@FLanon Stabenow is an old fart. Try to dig up dirt about some racist remark she made years ago

2018-09-23 22:00:29 UTC

When she was off her meds

2018-09-23 22:00:39 UTC

Why not MeToo Corey Booker?

2018-09-23 22:00:56 UTC

Not up for re-election this year

2018-09-23 22:01:05 UTC

When is he up for re-election?

2018-09-23 22:01:37 UTC

Wait yes he is

2018-09-23 22:01:44 UTC

He was sworn in in 2013

2018-09-23 22:01:45 UTC

He has to be

2018-09-23 22:02:35 UTC

Meme the second one like her ex husband was Bill and she was Hillary

2018-09-23 22:03:01 UTC

wait hes not up for re-election? tf?

2018-09-23 22:03:05 UTC

let me c

2018-09-23 22:03:24 UTC

Also, her ex hubsand was 11 years younger

2018-09-23 22:03:26 UTC

This is gold

2018-09-23 22:03:32 UTC

Does MeToo go after Pedophiles?

2018-09-23 22:03:51 UTC

They don't go after democrats, don't we know this

2018-09-23 22:04:05 UTC

@Dillpick88 Al Franken was forced to resign

2018-09-23 22:04:28 UTC

Also, Debbie apparently knew this happened for 1 and a half years before divorcing

2018-09-23 22:04:46 UTC

In 2008, Stabenow's then husband, Thomas Athans, co-founder of the liberal TalkUSA Radio network, "was implicated in a prostitution sting." He "admitted to police he paid a prostitute for sex." He went online and arranged a $150 tryst at a Detroit hotel. Stabenow and Athans were divorced a year and a half later.

2018-09-23 22:04:50 UTC

hmmm

2018-09-23 22:06:13 UTC

<@&414591534621786133> This is perfect

2018-09-23 22:07:08 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/493543870857216010/image0.jpg

2018-09-23 22:29:42 UTC

@Dillpick88 it was a special election to fill in Lautenberg's seat after he died

2018-09-23 22:29:58 UTC

Booker will be up for reelection in 2020

2018-09-23 22:31:46 UTC

ah

2018-09-23 22:46:59 UTC

We got a lot of MeToo stuff we could do, thatโ€™s for sure

2018-09-23 23:02:54 UTC

How's everyone today

2018-09-23 23:05:49 UTC

Iโ€™m fine

2018-09-23 23:05:55 UTC

I took a trip yesterday

2018-09-23 23:25:58 UTC

where have we seen this pattern before

2018-09-23 23:26:12 UTC

something promising pops up and is peeled back by the white house

2018-09-23 23:26:23 UTC

never happened

2018-09-23 23:26:43 UTC

Promises Made. Promises Kept. โ„ข

2018-09-23 23:34:01 UTC

listen it's not his fault

2018-09-23 23:34:24 UTC

if he changes anything, it'll be screwed over

2018-09-23 23:34:31 UTC

so he has to do nothing

2018-09-23 23:34:41 UTC

better than a democrat though

2018-09-23 23:52:33 UTC

@[Lex] @FLanon let's see how it plays out before bitching in a passive aggressive manner

2018-09-23 23:52:38 UTC

grab the popcorn lads

2018-09-23 23:58:31 UTC

looks like this is the Pussygate equivalent of 2018

2018-09-23 23:58:31 UTC

๐Ÿ†™ | **Barron Trump leveled up!**

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/493571903051792384/levelup.png

2018-09-23 23:59:54 UTC

*demanding the opportunity*

2018-09-24 00:00:06 UTC

come on.

2018-09-24 00:01:22 UTC

I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP senators are stupid enough to let this nonsense delay it either

2018-09-24 00:01:46 UTC

the main predicament of all this is that the base isn't going to be very motivated to vote for their cuckold Senators

2018-09-24 00:02:11 UTC

And they'd be completely justified in doing so

2018-09-24 00:02:29 UTC

They should have voted on Kavanaugh 3 days ago and not even have entertained this nonsense.

2018-09-24 00:02:40 UTC

Instead we'll be lucky if we get this vote by October.

2018-09-24 00:02:48 UTC

>And they'd be completely justified in doing so

no

2018-09-24 00:02:53 UTC

that's the sad fact of life in 2018

2018-09-24 00:02:55 UTC

Yes.

2018-09-24 00:02:56 UTC

no

2018-09-24 00:02:58 UTC

They are impotent.

2018-09-24 00:03:05 UTC

I don't think it'd be a good idea.

2018-09-24 00:03:09 UTC

the stakes are too high to stay home

2018-09-24 00:03:14 UTC

it's understandable to want to stay home

2018-09-24 00:03:18 UTC

But I mean come on. How can you fucking trust these people.

2018-09-24 00:03:32 UTC

well, you can't trust the other people either

2018-09-24 00:03:43 UTC

Yes you can.

2018-09-24 00:04:04 UTC

........

2018-09-24 00:04:13 UTC

You can trust them to screw us over and make the country a one-party state

2018-09-24 00:04:22 UTC

so

2018-09-24 00:04:23 UTC

...

2018-09-24 00:04:26 UTC

why would you vote for that

2018-09-24 00:04:33 UTC

I wouldn't

2018-09-24 00:04:51 UTC

All I'm saying is that there aren't any democrats that will be staying home because they caved in to Trump.

2018-09-24 00:05:44 UTC

They're doing what their voters want.

2018-09-24 00:05:55 UTC

The GOP is absolutely impotent.

2018-09-24 00:06:44 UTC

yep, but that's not a reason to commit seppuku

2018-09-24 00:08:03 UTC

I am sick of their shit.

2018-09-24 00:08:09 UTC

They are spineless little cucks.

2018-09-24 00:08:43 UTC

They deserve everything that comes to them.

2018-09-24 00:09:07 UTC

Every seat lost.

2018-09-24 00:09:50 UTC

you do realize that you're only going to be hurt by that, right?

2018-09-24 00:10:37 UTC

I am not saying that we should let them lose.

2018-09-24 00:11:54 UTC

I am saying that *if* they do lose, which is incredibly likely considering what they're doing, it will be entirely their mistake. They do not deserve their seats. Just because anything else is an F does not mean we should be happy with a D-.

2018-09-24 00:12:21 UTC

They fill a valuable vacuum that people far better could take up.

2018-09-24 00:16:46 UTC

If Kavanaugh doesn't get nominated, this will be disastrous.

2018-09-24 00:17:07 UTC

A SECOND case.

2018-09-24 00:17:21 UTC

A woman also deeply embedded within leftist partisan politics.

2018-09-24 00:17:23 UTC

Anyways, I'm going to pour even more hours over the next few weeks for the campaign, I'll probably have less time to talk. The importance is immeasurable.

2018-09-24 00:18:04 UTC

I'll also make an attempt to personally meet DeSantis and discuss the campaign if I have the opportunity, there is a lot that has yet to be done.

2018-09-24 00:19:45 UTC

wish me luck

2018-09-24 00:20:29 UTC

@FLanon good, gotta stop the likes of Gillum from ruining your state after all. Have you recruited any IRL friends to your cause

2018-09-24 00:20:44 UTC

you should talk to the potential voters IRL what they think of the Kavanaugh accusations

2018-09-24 00:20:49 UTC

Voting, yes. Campaigning, no.

2018-09-24 00:20:50 UTC

and if they'll get demoralized

2018-09-24 00:20:56 UTC

by the GOP cucking

2018-09-24 00:21:10 UTC

one thing I hope is that lots of the low-info voters are gonna be out of the loop and so won't be demoralized

2018-09-24 00:21:15 UTC

Well I'm trying to drive turnout up, not down.

2018-09-24 00:21:17 UTC

it's the hardcore right wing politicos who might stay home

2018-09-24 00:21:21 UTC

I'm not a polling agency.

2018-09-24 00:21:25 UTC

hmm

2018-09-24 00:21:42 UTC

are you going to even mention Kavanaugh

2018-09-24 00:21:54 UTC

If I think it'll drive turnout down, no.

2018-09-24 00:22:07 UTC

getting Senator Rick Scott on board might help, but then again...

2018-09-24 00:22:20 UTC

If he gets nominated and it seems that he's popular, then I absolutely will.

2018-09-24 00:22:37 UTC

I am campaigning for DeSantis.

2018-09-24 00:22:56 UTC

Rick Scott has so much attention drawn to him, not enough for DeSantis.

2018-09-24 00:23:12 UTC

most recent poll has desantis gaining quite a bit on gillum

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/493578113918304256/unknown.png

2018-09-24 00:23:36 UTC

he was behind by 4-5 in other polls

2018-09-24 00:24:22 UTC

Could be an outlier, but those 15% undecideds are very promising

2018-09-24 00:24:29 UTC

campaigning will make the difference

2018-09-24 00:24:31 UTC

I think a lot of them will buckle for DeSantis.

2018-09-24 00:24:34 UTC

Absolutely.

2018-09-24 00:24:54 UTC

maybe Rick Scott ends up pulling de Santis over the finish line

2018-09-24 00:25:23 UTC

it's just a matter of whether scott fears that connecting himself to DeSantis might harm his chances

2018-09-24 00:25:35 UTC

I will attempt to contact DeSantis and express my grievances about the yard signs and make sure he is actually against felon voting and will oppose it after the election ends.

2018-09-24 00:25:55 UTC

Well that makes no sense considering they've done joint rallies.

2018-09-24 00:26:46 UTC

He definitely has a good aesthetic.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/493579011130261525/ron-desantis.png

2018-09-24 00:26:48 UTC

Hopefully he can make a good connection while I'm in college as well, that can be incredibly valuable if I'm joining a political organization.

2018-09-24 00:26:55 UTC

Oh definitely.

2018-09-24 00:27:05 UTC

He hit the veteran point hard in the primary.

2018-09-24 00:27:12 UTC

That's always a good one to make.

2018-09-24 00:28:06 UTC

yeah

2018-09-24 00:28:17 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1YP_zZJFXs - this ad has been panned big time.

2018-09-24 00:28:49 UTC

he needs to expand beyond trump and fight as a floridian

2018-09-24 00:28:49 UTC

"hes coaching his children to be racist" -dems

2018-09-24 00:29:12 UTC

I saw that ad in the primary

2018-09-24 00:29:16 UTC

Very cringy.

2018-09-24 00:29:39 UTC

His primary campaign was pretty much "I'm the guy Trump likes"

2018-09-24 00:29:57 UTC

He has to push the veteran angle home and also how awful Gillum is.

2018-09-24 00:29:59 UTC

florida is still hard for trump, so it had some good impacts ig

2018-09-24 00:30:06 UTC

Of course.

2018-09-24 00:30:09 UTC

it's decent for wininmg the primary

2018-09-24 00:30:19 UTC

but winning the primary and winning the general can be two very different beasts

2018-09-24 00:30:22 UTC

but anything he says against gillum will be hit hard with "BUT THATS RACIST" by democrats

2018-09-24 00:30:25 UTC

FL Republicans preferred Trump over Rubio by 20 points.

2018-09-24 00:30:36 UTC

He is good among FL Republicans.

2018-09-24 00:30:48 UTC

Issue is FL Republicans aren't the only thing in the state.

2018-09-24 00:31:09 UTC

And I mean he can be reasonable about it. There's a ton of policy issues he can whack him on.

2018-09-24 00:31:22 UTC

gillum can say "white racist" all he wants, but if desantis says anything about "black socialist" he's done for according to dems

2018-09-24 00:31:25 UTC

Hopefully they debate, Gillum is bad in the interviews I've seen with him.

2018-09-24 00:31:34 UTC

yeah

2018-09-24 00:31:48 UTC

gillum got out during the primaries but after he won the primary he's stayed silent apart from twitter

2018-09-24 00:32:07 UTC

Probably consults deeply with staff.

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