real normies are apathetic to politics

SJW leftists have more acceptance in the media and in academia, sure

but in the general population they are anything but 'normal'

there's some overlap

there are a lot of 'normies' who voted for Trump but spend the vast majority of their time not even thinking about politics

Chads and Stacies who go to college in South Carolina are pretty 'normie' but Trump supporting at the same time

but not crazy about it like people on /pol/ are

Probably "for the lols" since its Trump

likewise, I know a lot of 'normies' here in NYC who voted Hillary but aren't sperging out about Trump

I suppose, yeah, the typical normie who gets bombarded by media and entertainment 24 hours a day probably wouldn't be right wing though

In general, people don't care about Trump as much as you think

back in 2016, I asked my mom if she knew who Bernie Sanders was, and she said "oh...he's a businessman, right???"

kek

I wish twitter would shut the fuck about him for a second though

Twitter leftists are the fucking worst

Twitter overrepresents the American liberal/democrat population

there definitely has been a real paradigm shift in the fact that there's more people involved in politics nowadays

at least Tumblr leftists are so obviously odious, whereas Twitter leftists have an air of legitimacy

here's the thing,

the twitter system itself is so manipulative and scummy

most actions by the federal government don't affect everyday Americans

man I wish Nehlen's bill was in effect

yeah, Twitter is supposed to be an apolitical site (so was Tumblr, but Tumblr is supposed to be niche while Twitter is for everyone)

the only real change under Trump that people will notice is the tax cuts,
people might not realize why they have more money left to spend tho

lmao just wondering do you guys think Nehlen is going to beat Ryan during the primaries

no way

he'll lose by 70 point margin

so the fact that Twitter is so stacked in favor of leftists by giving all blue checkmarks to all these Literally Who's and shadowbanning wrongthink ....is worse than some obviously weird otherkin posting on Tumblr

Didn't he lose quite a lot to Ryan last midterm?

ye, he has nothing to really lose at this point

someone who wants to LARP like Nehlen should wait until AFTER they're in office, not before the primary

Stormfagging would carry much more impact from someone who actually can vote for legislation

now, it would massively threaten their reelection chances, but if your objective is to bring a lot of attention to radical ideas, you're better off waiting until you're actually in office

the shallnotcensor bill he put up looks perfect

lmao I was thinking that as well. Nehlen doesn't talk like a radical right-winger or seems like one

Looking at some of the interviews

it'd really even the playing field

he definitely went all out

one idea that popped into my head after thinking about what Macron is doing in France, is this

not sure if that tactic is good enough, I don't think he has a great chance, but watching him speak live he seems amicable to the average person I think

a future radical right winger is better off pretending to be a cuck for years to win office as a leftist, then show his true colors

Oh yeah. Macron is nowhere near left wing. He's more neoliberal, sort of like the Clintons

a shift in the overton window is much more effective when a person in elected office does it rather than a candidate

I mean, take a look at the shithole situation, you have people on Fox and average Trump supporters dissing Haiti, when they'd never dare to before he said it

imagine if someone runs as a generic liberal and wins the Presidency as a Democrat, then turns out to be even more of a radical right winger than Trump...they'd probably lose reelection but it wouldn't matter much

however it's an unrealistic strategy

lol imagine if bernie did that

that kind of stuff is good for fanfiction, but I wouldn't count on it realistically

the kind of person crazy enough to pretend to be the opposite of what they stand for, for so many years in order to avoid suspicion, would be too crazy to actually win

it's like those 4d chess guys who talk about mueller being a Trump agent, you have to take some things the way they are

not everything is some machiavellian scheme

Why do McCain and Flake both have low approval ratings in AZ? Will it turn blue or at least purple?

they're both hated within their own party

I don't doubt it's possible

I thought they had low approval ratings because AZ is shifting more liberal idk

it's partly that

Also, Ted Cruz is hated with both the Republicans and Democrats, but he's really popular here in TX

Senate Republicans and Democrats*

partly because they're hated by many in the right as well

Ted Cruz seems hated by other GOP politiicans, but not really the electorate in the same way McCain is

Flake and McCain are risks when it comes to ordinary R legislation

Ted stays on the ball when it comes to getting stuff done in the senate though

The best thing Trump could do heading in to the midterms is avoid further drama

lmao that's the one thing we can count on not happening

A weekly/monthly cycle of negative Trump headlines depresses GOP turnout

That and the media/twitter makes its own drama surrounding him now. Trump could jaywalk and it would be national news for a week.

one thing I think could give him the edge is the possibility of the clintons going down

Oh right,

if it happens near the midterms I could definitely see it galvanizing a lot of Rs

they reopened the investigation, for those that don't know

but,

It could have little effect if Democrats disavow Hillary en masse

remember after the baseball game where the majority whip got shot

it would be a massive victory for Trump and his base would turnout to the polls at 90%+ however

normies associate party members with other party members, that kind of news could breathe some new life into the electiosn

elections*

point is, having the "swamp drained" would be a gigantic victory for the right wing in general and bring a lot of new excitement to those who voted against clinton they hadn't felt since the presidency

it'd be the story of the decade

With Comey out and the DOJ under Sessions, there's at least a chance of it now

no way of knowing until it happens

until then, I'd focus on getting these people in office

In 1994, the Republicans gained a whopping 53 seats in the House,

one of the most dramatic upsets in political history,

the strategy was simple,

the GOP sent out consultants to diners in small towns all across America to ask them what they disliked about Washington,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_elections,_1994

from what they said, the RNC crafted what was known as the "Contract to America",
a list of legislative promises to fulfil if they gained control of Congress

Newt Gingrich is on Trump's side

the GOP got a bunch of young, new Republicans to run and saw a enormous shift to the party

Trump will definitely be listening to him for this election season

the thing is, how do we accomplish something similar w/ an R congress and president

the problem is today most politicians are old and out of touch

defining something like a MAGA contract for candidates running for congress

Trump definitely should have a strategy room for this, it's the most important thing possible between now and 2020

most politicians have never been to a small town except for maybe a pre-planned photo op

from what I can tell, Trump not only knows it's super important, but it'll be one of his main prioritis this year

I started making these election threads a bit earlier...arguably it's even too early for people to care about the primaries right now

this will get him a wall, RAISE, obamacare repeal, whatever he wants, he would fulfill so many campaign promises potentially with congress that much on his side if he breaks the amnesty coalition

I'm sure there are lots of people PLANNING to run right now though, it's just that voters won't start caring about primaries until springtime at the very least

Have you ever wondered why Trump did so well in South Carolina?
Here's why,

y'know, some day I may run if the opportunity arises

this image, it might not seem like much. But it did wonders for optics. It made South Carolinians feel like he was at there level

there's so much damn potential that can be done nowadays

kinda like the pic of Nehlen w/ a Five Guys wrapper, it brings him down to earth, right?

yeah

I'm going to be very, very, very surprised if there aren't a decent amount of congressional candidates using Trumpian tactics

the thing we have to figure out is how we get about channeling that grassroots energy into a party with a majority in Congress

technically the amnesty coalition is the majority, but the Rs have the illusion of power

we seem like the "establishment" now to the uninformed person, how do we turn it around?

Oh, oh,

I was reading this report by AP the other day,

the thing is, 'uninformed' people tend to be those who don't even bother voting, much less in the midterms

so that doesn't really matter

I mean uninformed in the sense of watching MSM day after day, not really as apolitical

misinformed would be more correct

they interviewed some Trump voters in Appalachia,
they said it would mean the world to them if Trump went down personally there to see them.
not like a rally, just to look around and talk to them

I'd say that people who voted for Trump can be counted on to vote against the democrats

especially if he campaigns all around the country with the congressional candidates he backs

definitely

neverTrumpers can also be counted on to vote against the democrats, or at least they can be influenced to do so

the Trump physical energy rallies people like nothing else

I have no doubt that Moore would've won if Trump made an appearance in Alabma

Alabama

now when it comes to leftists...the idea is to get them not to turn out, but one thing I'll concede is that their sperged out rage will motivate them to turn out

however, their sperg rage will also turn off independents and moderates

Trump voters + neverTrumpers + independents/moderates --> left gets btfo

maybe we can try a reprisal on the Hillary effect? "hey you guys won Alabama, West Virginia is going to be just fine", something along those lines.

The Suburbs are key

Trump MUST win over Suburbs

that's the thing

Alabama can give them false confidence

thankfully

maybe if the economy stays on Trump's side and the tax bill can allow them to flourish, they may turn more friendly to Trump?

rather, I'd say it doesn't matter how confident leftist voters are, but it DOES matter how confident (in a wrong way) Democratic party strategists are

I tell you what, if someone in the last administration goes to prison, that'll bring fire right to the base

I'm not sure what's going on behind closed doors with Democrat officials, but if they believe they won Alabama because of Trump and people joining their side (instead of Moore's pedo allegations and GOP backstabbing), it could lead them to massively fucking up this year

maybe that'd be an ironic twist to Moore losing, that it brings more senate seats to the right than if he would've won

Suburban voters don't like Trump's rhetoric, but small town voters love it,
that's a bit of issue, Trump can't appease both at the same time

at least that's a fantasy I'd like to imagine

the thing is, it doesn't matter much if suburban voters don't like Trump's rhetoric, because the rhetoric of whoever the congressional candidates are for their specific areas, will matter more

suburban voters could probably be put to excitement by more "normie conservative" type accomplishments like taxes and the such

@FLanon it depends on the strategies the Democrats adopt

in what sense

you can guarantee that the deranged leftist types will be out to vote, but if they're trumped by independents / moderates it'll fuck them up

so in that case, how do we motivate the moderates to vote for Rs?

also, there may be quite a few Democrat voters who aren't deranged spergs, who won't show up to vote

well, one good way to motivate the moderates is to show them how crazy the left has become, and that the Democrats will represent the kinds of people who go to ANTIFA rallies, support SJW bullshit, want hardcore socialism, etc

It'll be important that Republicans pitch the tax cuts like crazy,
people might not realize why they have more money, remember.

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 yeah, that too

I tell you, if Trump does something big justice-wise, there'll be a lot more trump base voters who will show up to the polls. Campaign ads would be crazy, lot of hype would enter the ring, and that would make it unnecessary for the need to involve libertarians and moderates

there should be a two pronged strategy of "look how good the economy is doing" and "look how crazy the left is"

the economy slant could be good for moderates

also,

um, ISIS is gone, people. and so many people don't realize it.

also, I hope the GOP uses the Democrats' Russia LARPing to fuck them up

yeah, emphasize ISIS's defeat too

that'd be more of a Trump issue in specific than republican congressional candidates

Jesus, Congress really haven't done anything with the legislative power they have

what would motivate someone to go and vote for the right wing

it really sucks

In 1994 for contrast, the GOP put a new law out nearly every month

under a Democrat president too

the Newt Gingrich Congress was insanely energetic

if the republicans were as enthusiastic to vote for trump's policies as the democrats are to vote against them, we'd have the wall already completely built by now

the fact we even have to make deals is ridiculous

deals _within_ the Republican party

yeah

this is why Trump's gotta mold the GOP

issue is that all that potential may have been squandered after Moore

McConnell has a lot more clout now

The GOP _has_ been united when it comes to Trump's judiciary appointments,

molding the GOP should be something that to focus on after the midterms and after 2020

in Arizona there'll definitely be a better R than Flake up, but what do we do other than that?

it wasn't realistic to try molding it from 2016-2018

sorry, define mold

shift the core

changing it into a specifically Trump/MAGA party, instead of the party of G Dubya Bush / McCain / Romney

make it to where when you think "republican" you think Trump and not Bush/McCain

no amnesty, America First

that kind of thing

so basically, Tom Cotton types?

with more energy

it's hard to think of an example, really

if Moore won, that kind of person

not just immigration hardliners, which is extremely important, but a care for the US in trade, allowing our interests to be beholden to no other nation

Oh oh

Tom Cotton just pointed out something 50 seconds ago,

if Democrats shut down the government over dreamers, it'll cost them

I've heard that angle, not sure if it'll be valid, but it's worth a shot

If Congress can't pass a budget in 5 days, it'll happen

I think personally Trump set the 'DACA deal' up to fail

yeah I know, I'm focusing more on DACA than the shutdown

Trump's been placing the blame on the inevitable fall of the deal on DACA, where he can frame that as the Dems screwing up

It's like a catch-22, if no deal is made, the Dems couldn't save the Dreamers when the Rs were willing to make a deal, if a deal is made, then a shift in the immigration system will have less legal immigration which will cost Dems, also Trump would get the wall which may make Dems look weak.

I don't know how the average voter would interpret it, but fingers are crossed all things considered

"I don't know how the average voter would interpret it,"

yeah, that's the thing

many leftists and minorities will still turn out for the Democrats regardless

I don't even know if DACA is going to be relevant in 10 months

probably not as much were it not for Trump's move

We'll see about what it does, I hope Trump has a good strategy in mind

I think we're better off getting Trumpians and neverTrumpers to turn out along with getting moderates and independents on our side

than to try to depress leftist turnout

you're better off trying to get a leftist to abandon the left first than to convince them not to vote

btw, someone should bump the general

right now

oops

just got archived

oh well

I'll make a new one later tonight

lot of Belgian shills on those threads

lmao yeah, it's probably the same guy though

meanwhile thread w/ subject 'fat fuck' has 300 replies

I've noticed a lot of blatant shilling from posters with European flags

in the early morning

what a shitty website, I swear

when I make it later in the day (beyond 5pm eastern time), it's less dominated by shills

yeah

it's wayyyyy to easy to slide /pol/

quality definitely has been depressed in the last few months

I'm wondering why 'Krautgate' is getting so many threads that easily reach the post limit

I never even bothered to watch "Kraut and Tea"

and don't follow e-celeb drama

eceleb stuff is interesting to people, getting people in office isn't

Elections will become more interesting as they loom closer

from what I gather Kraut got a race realism advocate taken off the internet, then made a discord to dox a bunch of people on the right, it got leaked, then he shut his channel down

There was a thread for the Czech election just a few hours ago

skeptic community dies, end of story

anyways, I think getting the people who voted Trump to vote in the midterms is a good way to go, maybe Trump has some kind of justice plot brewing behind the scenes, but I'm not placing all my chips on that

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/156732172

new thread

@FLanon yeah, I know the sparknotes version of the story behind the Krautgate thing

maybe we could shill tax reform to moderates, and it could work, not 100% on that though

but why the fuck are there still so many generals reaching the bump limit

I figured it would have fizzled out weeks ago

yeah it seems like a done and over story, Jim made his last video on it

from what I can tell, Krautgate general just looks like eceleb general now

it's not just about the original Krautgate story anymore

lol my new thread is ALREADY ON PAGE 5

the debates w/ spencer and sargon are a lot more fresh in terms of eceleb stuff than the kraut story

lemme get on the thread real quicl

I made it only 4 minutes ago

that's the nature of /pol/ I guess

I'm not sure what you'd call that first thread ("you seem troubled anon...")

no one complains about any of the threads except for ours

just "slide thread" I guess

hypothetical scenario thread?

it's a hypothetical scenario with a clickbaity picture and low effort clickbaity title though

it's just so fucking unproductive that it's insane

2nd one is a general thread on the Balkans that probably would be more appropriate for /int/