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real normies are apathetic to politics
SJW leftists have more acceptance in the media and in academia, sure
but in the general population they are anything but 'normal'
there's some overlap
there are a lot of 'normies' who voted for Trump but spend the vast majority of their time not even thinking about politics
Chads and Stacies who go to college in South Carolina are pretty 'normie' but Trump supporting at the same time
but not crazy about it like people on /pol/ are
Probably "for the lols" since its Trump
likewise, I know a lot of 'normies' here in NYC who voted Hillary but aren't sperging out about Trump
I suppose, yeah, the typical normie who gets bombarded by media and entertainment 24 hours a day probably wouldn't be right wing though
In general, people don't care about Trump as much as you think
back in 2016, I asked my mom if she knew who Bernie Sanders was, and she said "oh...he's a businessman, right???"
kek
I wish twitter would shut the fuck about him for a second though
Twitter leftists are the fucking worst
Twitter overrepresents the American liberal/democrat population
there definitely has been a real paradigm shift in the fact that there's more people involved in politics nowadays
at least Tumblr leftists are so obviously odious, whereas Twitter leftists have an air of legitimacy
here's the thing,
the twitter system itself is so manipulative and scummy
most actions by the federal government don't affect everyday Americans
man I wish Nehlen's bill was in effect
yeah, Twitter is supposed to be an apolitical site (so was Tumblr, but Tumblr is supposed to be niche while Twitter is for everyone)
the only real change under Trump that people will notice is the tax cuts,
people might not realize why they have more money left to spend tho
lmao just wondering do you guys think Nehlen is going to beat Ryan during the primaries
no way
he'll lose by 70 point margin
so the fact that Twitter is so stacked in favor of leftists by giving all blue checkmarks to all these Literally Who's and shadowbanning wrongthink ....is worse than some obviously weird otherkin posting on Tumblr
Didn't he lose quite a lot to Ryan last midterm?
ye, he has nothing to really lose at this point
someone who wants to LARP like Nehlen should wait until AFTER they're in office, not before the primary
Stormfagging would carry much more impact from someone who actually can vote for legislation
now, it would massively threaten their reelection chances, but if your objective is to bring a lot of attention to radical ideas, you're better off waiting until you're actually in office
the shallnotcensor bill he put up looks perfect
lmao I was thinking that as well. Nehlen doesn't talk like a radical right-winger or seems like one
Looking at some of the interviews
it'd really even the playing field
he definitely went all out
one idea that popped into my head after thinking about what Macron is doing in France, is this
not sure if that tactic is good enough, I don't think he has a great chance, but watching him speak live he seems amicable to the average person I think
a future radical right winger is better off pretending to be a cuck for years to win office as a leftist, then show his true colors
Oh yeah. Macron is nowhere near left wing. He's more neoliberal, sort of like the Clintons
a shift in the overton window is much more effective when a person in elected office does it rather than a candidate
I mean, take a look at the shithole situation, you have people on Fox and average Trump supporters dissing Haiti, when they'd never dare to before he said it
imagine if someone runs as a generic liberal and wins the Presidency as a Democrat, then turns out to be even more of a radical right winger than Trump...they'd probably lose reelection but it wouldn't matter much
however it's an unrealistic strategy
lol imagine if bernie did that
that kind of stuff is good for fanfiction, but I wouldn't count on it realistically
the kind of person crazy enough to pretend to be the opposite of what they stand for, for so many years in order to avoid suspicion, would be too crazy to actually win
it's like those 4d chess guys who talk about mueller being a Trump agent, you have to take some things the way they are
not everything is some machiavellian scheme
Why do McCain and Flake both have low approval ratings in AZ? Will it turn blue or at least purple?
they're both hated within their own party
I don't doubt it's possible
I thought they had low approval ratings because AZ is shifting more liberal idk
it's partly that
Also, Ted Cruz is hated with both the Republicans and Democrats, but he's really popular here in TX
Senate Republicans and Democrats*
partly because they're hated by many in the right as well
Ted Cruz seems hated by other GOP politiicans, but not really the electorate in the same way McCain is
Flake and McCain are risks when it comes to ordinary R legislation
Ted stays on the ball when it comes to getting stuff done in the senate though
The best thing Trump could do heading in to the midterms is avoid further drama
lmao that's the one thing we can count on not happening
A weekly/monthly cycle of negative Trump headlines depresses GOP turnout
That and the media/twitter makes its own drama surrounding him now. Trump could jaywalk and it would be national news for a week.
one thing I think could give him the edge is the possibility of the clintons going down
Oh right,
if it happens near the midterms I could definitely see it galvanizing a lot of Rs
they reopened the investigation, for those that don't know
but,
It could have little effect if Democrats disavow Hillary en masse
remember after the baseball game where the majority whip got shot
it would be a massive victory for Trump and his base would turnout to the polls at 90%+ however
normies associate party members with other party members, that kind of news could breathe some new life into the electiosn
elections*
point is, having the "swamp drained" would be a gigantic victory for the right wing in general and bring a lot of new excitement to those who voted against clinton they hadn't felt since the presidency
it'd be the story of the decade
With Comey out and the DOJ under Sessions, there's at least a chance of it now
no way of knowing until it happens
until then, I'd focus on getting these people in office
In 1994, the Republicans gained a whopping 53 seats in the House,
one of the most dramatic upsets in political history,
the strategy was simple,
the GOP sent out consultants to diners in small towns all across America to ask them what they disliked about Washington,
from what they said, the RNC crafted what was known as the "Contract to America",
a list of legislative promises to fulfil if they gained control of Congress
Newt Gingrich is on Trump's side
the GOP got a bunch of young, new Republicans to run and saw a enormous shift to the party
Trump will definitely be listening to him for this election season
the thing is, how do we accomplish something similar w/ an R congress and president
the problem is today most politicians are old and out of touch
defining something like a MAGA contract for candidates running for congress
Trump definitely should have a strategy room for this, it's the most important thing possible between now and 2020
most politicians have never been to a small town except for maybe a pre-planned photo op
from what I can tell, Trump not only knows it's super important, but it'll be one of his main prioritis this year
I started making these election threads a bit earlier...arguably it's even too early for people to care about the primaries right now
this will get him a wall, RAISE, obamacare repeal, whatever he wants, he would fulfill so many campaign promises potentially with congress that much on his side if he breaks the amnesty coalition
I'm sure there are lots of people PLANNING to run right now though, it's just that voters won't start caring about primaries until springtime at the very least
Have you ever wondered why Trump did so well in South Carolina?
Here's why,
y'know, some day I may run if the opportunity arises
this image, it might not seem like much. But it did wonders for optics. It made South Carolinians feel like he was at there level
there's so much damn potential that can be done nowadays
kinda like the pic of Nehlen w/ a Five Guys wrapper, it brings him down to earth, right?
yeah
I'm going to be very, very, very surprised if there aren't a decent amount of congressional candidates using Trumpian tactics
the thing we have to figure out is how we get about channeling that grassroots energy into a party with a majority in Congress
technically the amnesty coalition is the majority, but the Rs have the illusion of power
we seem like the "establishment" now to the uninformed person, how do we turn it around?
Oh, oh,
I was reading this report by AP the other day,
the thing is, 'uninformed' people tend to be those who don't even bother voting, much less in the midterms
so that doesn't really matter
I mean uninformed in the sense of watching MSM day after day, not really as apolitical
misinformed would be more correct
they interviewed some Trump voters in Appalachia,
they said it would mean the world to them if Trump went down personally there to see them.
not like a rally, just to look around and talk to them
I'd say that people who voted for Trump can be counted on to vote against the democrats
especially if he campaigns all around the country with the congressional candidates he backs
definitely
neverTrumpers can also be counted on to vote against the democrats, or at least they can be influenced to do so
the Trump physical energy rallies people like nothing else
I have no doubt that Moore would've won if Trump made an appearance in Alabma
Alabama
now when it comes to leftists...the idea is to get them not to turn out, but one thing I'll concede is that their sperged out rage will motivate them to turn out
however, their sperg rage will also turn off independents and moderates
Trump voters + neverTrumpers + independents/moderates --> left gets btfo
maybe we can try a reprisal on the Hillary effect? "hey you guys won Alabama, West Virginia is going to be just fine", something along those lines.
The Suburbs are key
Trump MUST win over Suburbs
that's the thing
Alabama can give them false confidence
thankfully
maybe if the economy stays on Trump's side and the tax bill can allow them to flourish, they may turn more friendly to Trump?
rather, I'd say it doesn't matter how confident leftist voters are, but it DOES matter how confident (in a wrong way) Democratic party strategists are
I tell you what, if someone in the last administration goes to prison, that'll bring fire right to the base
I'm not sure what's going on behind closed doors with Democrat officials, but if they believe they won Alabama because of Trump and people joining their side (instead of Moore's pedo allegations and GOP backstabbing), it could lead them to massively fucking up this year
maybe that'd be an ironic twist to Moore losing, that it brings more senate seats to the right than if he would've won
Suburban voters don't like Trump's rhetoric, but small town voters love it,
that's a bit of issue, Trump can't appease both at the same time
at least that's a fantasy I'd like to imagine
the thing is, it doesn't matter much if suburban voters don't like Trump's rhetoric, because the rhetoric of whoever the congressional candidates are for their specific areas, will matter more
suburban voters could probably be put to excitement by more "normie conservative" type accomplishments like taxes and the such
@FLanon it depends on the strategies the Democrats adopt
in what sense
you can guarantee that the deranged leftist types will be out to vote, but if they're trumped by independents / moderates it'll fuck them up
so in that case, how do we motivate the moderates to vote for Rs?
also, there may be quite a few Democrat voters who aren't deranged spergs, who won't show up to vote
well, one good way to motivate the moderates is to show them how crazy the left has become, and that the Democrats will represent the kinds of people who go to ANTIFA rallies, support SJW bullshit, want hardcore socialism, etc
It'll be important that Republicans pitch the tax cuts like crazy,
people might not realize why they have more money, remember.
@๐Boo-ton๐ yeah, that too
I tell you, if Trump does something big justice-wise, there'll be a lot more trump base voters who will show up to the polls. Campaign ads would be crazy, lot of hype would enter the ring, and that would make it unnecessary for the need to involve libertarians and moderates
there should be a two pronged strategy of "look how good the economy is doing" and "look how crazy the left is"
the economy slant could be good for moderates
also,
um, ISIS is gone, people. and so many people don't realize it.
also, I hope the GOP uses the Democrats' Russia LARPing to fuck them up
yeah, emphasize ISIS's defeat too
that'd be more of a Trump issue in specific than republican congressional candidates
Jesus, Congress really haven't done anything with the legislative power they have
what would motivate someone to go and vote for the right wing
it really sucks
In 1994 for contrast, the GOP put a new law out nearly every month
under a Democrat president too
the Newt Gingrich Congress was insanely energetic
if the republicans were as enthusiastic to vote for trump's policies as the democrats are to vote against them, we'd have the wall already completely built by now
the fact we even have to make deals is ridiculous
deals _within_ the Republican party
yeah
this is why Trump's gotta mold the GOP
issue is that all that potential may have been squandered after Moore
McConnell has a lot more clout now
The GOP _has_ been united when it comes to Trump's judiciary appointments,
molding the GOP should be something that to focus on after the midterms and after 2020
in Arizona there'll definitely be a better R than Flake up, but what do we do other than that?
it wasn't realistic to try molding it from 2016-2018
sorry, define mold
shift the core
changing it into a specifically Trump/MAGA party, instead of the party of G Dubya Bush / McCain / Romney
make it to where when you think "republican" you think Trump and not Bush/McCain
no amnesty, America First
that kind of thing
so basically, Tom Cotton types?
with more energy
it's hard to think of an example, really
if Moore won, that kind of person
not just immigration hardliners, which is extremely important, but a care for the US in trade, allowing our interests to be beholden to no other nation
Oh oh
Tom Cotton just pointed out something 50 seconds ago,
if Democrats shut down the government over dreamers, it'll cost them
I've heard that angle, not sure if it'll be valid, but it's worth a shot
If Congress can't pass a budget in 5 days, it'll happen
I think personally Trump set the 'DACA deal' up to fail
yeah I know, I'm focusing more on DACA than the shutdown
Trump's been placing the blame on the inevitable fall of the deal on DACA, where he can frame that as the Dems screwing up
It's like a catch-22, if no deal is made, the Dems couldn't save the Dreamers when the Rs were willing to make a deal, if a deal is made, then a shift in the immigration system will have less legal immigration which will cost Dems, also Trump would get the wall which may make Dems look weak.
I don't know how the average voter would interpret it, but fingers are crossed all things considered
"I don't know how the average voter would interpret it,"
yeah, that's the thing
many leftists and minorities will still turn out for the Democrats regardless
I don't even know if DACA is going to be relevant in 10 months
probably not as much were it not for Trump's move
We'll see about what it does, I hope Trump has a good strategy in mind
I think we're better off getting Trumpians and neverTrumpers to turn out along with getting moderates and independents on our side
than to try to depress leftist turnout
you're better off trying to get a leftist to abandon the left first than to convince them not to vote
btw, someone should bump the general
right now
oops
just got archived
oh well
I'll make a new one later tonight
lot of Belgian shills on those threads
lmao yeah, it's probably the same guy though
meanwhile thread w/ subject 'fat fuck' has 300 replies
I've noticed a lot of blatant shilling from posters with European flags
in the early morning
what a shitty website, I swear
when I make it later in the day (beyond 5pm eastern time), it's less dominated by shills
yeah
it's wayyyyy to easy to slide /pol/
quality definitely has been depressed in the last few months
I'm wondering why 'Krautgate' is getting so many threads that easily reach the post limit
I never even bothered to watch "Kraut and Tea"
and don't follow e-celeb drama
eceleb stuff is interesting to people, getting people in office isn't
Elections will become more interesting as they loom closer
from what I gather Kraut got a race realism advocate taken off the internet, then made a discord to dox a bunch of people on the right, it got leaked, then he shut his channel down
There was a thread for the Czech election just a few hours ago
skeptic community dies, end of story
anyways, I think getting the people who voted Trump to vote in the midterms is a good way to go, maybe Trump has some kind of justice plot brewing behind the scenes, but I'm not placing all my chips on that
new thread
@FLanon yeah, I know the sparknotes version of the story behind the Krautgate thing
maybe we could shill tax reform to moderates, and it could work, not 100% on that though
but why the fuck are there still so many generals reaching the bump limit
I figured it would have fizzled out weeks ago
yeah it seems like a done and over story, Jim made his last video on it
from what I can tell, Krautgate general just looks like eceleb general now
it's not just about the original Krautgate story anymore
lol my new thread is ALREADY ON PAGE 5
the debates w/ spencer and sargon are a lot more fresh in terms of eceleb stuff than the kraut story
lemme get on the thread real quicl
I made it only 4 minutes ago
that's the nature of /pol/ I guess
I'm not sure what you'd call that first thread ("you seem troubled anon...")
no one complains about any of the threads except for ours
just "slide thread" I guess
hypothetical scenario thread?
it's a hypothetical scenario with a clickbaity picture and low effort clickbaity title though
it's just so fucking unproductive that it's insane
2nd one is a general thread on the Balkans that probably would be more appropriate for /int/
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