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interesting
But yeah, he really needs to hit on the trade message
He might also be able to hit on immigration if he doesn't shoot himself in the face today with this moderate bill
Yep
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1009071330661142533
These words better not be empty
Yeah, I get that but still, we'll see
Ten thousand spics sent their kids to the US alone, that's their fault, not the US government
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1009071403918864385
So don't give their potential voters amnesty!
Where have we heard that one before
I feel some deja vu here
Stephen Miller 2024
Well, by these tweets it gives me a very slight bit of hope he wonโt sign off on the Paul Ryan bill
He's just fantastic, best guy in the admin
Well we've been through that song and dance
We shouldn't take any chances
Pray hard
Itโs kind of hinting at it. But I still wouldnโt hold my head up to high
Drew miller for global emperor 2067
yes
What time are we doing VC tonight?
I'm not sure if it's too late for a letter writing campaign
Hi not sure if it's too late for a letter writing campaign, I'm Dad!
Definitely to late for that
Well not to your congressmen
Probably 5:00, but I'll get home after that
The address happens at 5:30
(EST)
sounds good.
House votes on it Thursday but doesnโt he announce which one he will endorse or if heโll sign it today?
Pretty much
And Goodlatte has a low chance of passing the Senate, nearly impossible, but Trump should still fight to the tooth and nail for it.
Well boys, take this time before the storm to relax a very slight bit. Enjoy the moments that could very well be the last of America as we know it.
We need to make at least some push.
โ gonna be praying hard, and I advise you lads to do likewise โ
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
Soundtrack of America right now
Iโve noticed that. Iโve seen it a lot but it doesnโt seem to have the impact they want
The media is always going to be up to some shit, that's why they have to be discredited
Had virtually no negative effect on approval so far
I think a lot of people with connections with Trump have warned him
When we starting the VC? 4:00, 4:30?
I call upon our British ancestors to smile upon our great nation built on their freedom!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGrxHO-B2TY
Probably 5, but again, off work late
I might miss some of it
Reptile I thought you said ancestor stuff was pagan shit
Hush
oof
And I thought Pagans were bad
Button
You forgetting the deal?
@GermanEastAfrica I just needed an excuse to post the song really
And it's wh*Toid
Thatโs fine
Uberraschung!
He hit that one on the nose
Is it like verbatim?
Yes?
oof
Yeah that's not as good as the average polls we've been getting
Jesus, so many outlier polls here.
I love when trump talks about immigration the way he did when he was on the campaign trail
There's just so much difference between most polls.
Yeah
Also is there an actual chance of Florida flipping?
The Snake poem was great
A good chance
Other than this poll, all of them have had Scott up
How could nelson win?
He's the incumbent Senator
He's been elected to the office since before half this server was born
Yeah so he is a long term incumbent and dems in Miami could carry the vote for him
Is there any way he could loose
Other than a Roy Moore situation
Yeah it could happen, has a good chance
The governor is rich and pretty popular
Plus Trump's approvals are pretty high in Florida relative to the rest of the country
Yeah we're the 50/50 state pretty much
No president wins or loses here by more than 5 points
>blue NC
>blue AZ
>blue OH
>blue MI
>blue WI
>blue PA
Lol
fucking political cartoonists
I wish on saw this the morning of the election lmao
But yes, we are always extremely close in elections
Even in '08 when McCain nearly lost fucking Montana and lost Indiana, Florida only went to Obama by like 2 points
On election day, during a discussion about our predictions, one of my friends was saying he had a weird feeling about Pennsylvania. The next day he was pretty proud of himself lol
Wisconsin came out of nowhere
And Michigan
That was beautiful
It was
Michigan was more expected
The sun shined really bright on my way to school the next morning. (Kinda gay but true)
Wisconsin always was blue in polling, even in RCP which had New Mexico as grayish
So when it went for Trump, my God man
Jesus
Link order: Penn., Michigan, Wisconsin
Those are the polls of the 2016 election
Probably thought the Obama effect would carry over
North Carolina
Master List:
But yeah I think they thought the amount of women that would vote Clinton would mirror the amount of blacks that voted Obama
But the shift was relatively minimal
It's really interesting seeing the shift of swing states, where some states become more safe R/D and others drift into swing territory.
Political polarization
@FLanon I'm actually working on a video rn about 2016 Election Voter Demographics, where I'll break down who voted for who, turnout rates, and so on.
We're never going to see a 1964, 1972, or 1984 ever again.
Black turnout dropped significantly.
Hey, you never know. You say that, but people seriously thought Trump winning would not happen either.
I don't see it happening
It's just political polarization
People are going to go pretty hard on party line now
There'd have to be a 3rd party that would split one of the party's vote, allowing the other main party to win the plurality. Aka Ross Perot situation
Yeah, that's the only way I see it happening
Ideologically, there's not going to be a Reagan Democrats situation again.
The difference is nearly diametric at this point
I was a Trump fan but I didn't see Trump winning to be honest, I was really surprised when he won
Me neither
I thought this nation could never elect a man like him again
I was hoping on holding Nevada, which would have edged Trump out. Penn. Michigan, and Wisconsin were not on my radar for flipping.
Well, I'll retcon what I said actually, there *is* going to be a sort of Reagan Democrats situation in the rust belt white working class voting for Rs as the dems abandon whites for minority votes.
6 hours until the decision
But they'll just be straight up right wing and not just moderates at that point
What decision?
The immigration bill
It's Big
Trump's having an address to Congress
Yeah Trump Democrats will emerge out of the Rust Belt, in Minnesota. Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
Or have already
well if Trump focuses on Trade and Immigration this summer, yeah they will come out
Another thing to consider is the slow death of unions as right to work continues to rise
what do you mean?
Right to work depresses Dem turnout significantly
Swing States: Out with Iowa, Ohio, Virginia, Colorado. In with Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
Union workers don't have anything to vote for so they stay home
Or vote R
If they leave the union and vote on non-union issues
In Wisconsin, after Right to Work was implemented, dem turnout was lowered by 3.5%
and considering Trump had a similar total vote to Romney, the dems staying home won him the election, and some dems flipping made up for the Rs who had too many character issues with Trump to vote for him
so NAFTA talks are going on this summer, hopefully this helps the rust belt with them auto jobs and even for the farmers who are being taxed.
Wisconsin turnout rates were lower than normal
Yep, Right to Work and some white Obama voters flipping to Trump
Look at Black turnout, down 18.9% from 2012. Insane. That was a common theme across swing states.
It's similar to Romney's total, I assume because of the disgusted Rs that thought Trump was too brash
Once Obama was removed from the ticket, they didn't bother
They vote very intensely for people that look like them
Dems need to run a half-Black, half-Hispanic woman who is working class but also an immigrant to hit all the checkmarks for their base voters.
So you think if Trump puts Trade and the Economy number 1 this summer, the white working class in the rust belt will turn in 2018?
That's why in GA-04 a guy can get away with saying that Guam would capsize if you put too many people on it and still get reelected by wide margins, because he's black and the district is 60% black.
Trade and Immigration
Imma hop in VC if y'all wanna join
The economy isn't that important really
well.....
At least when we're talking for getting turnout up
true
It can crash your chances but it can't raise them
But yeah, the pivotal keys of Trump's platform that got him nominated are trade and immigration.
He needs to hammer those home.
Exactly. And let's hope he does, or he'll lose for sure.
Trade, Immigration, Obamacare, Terrorism, and Energy. These are what Trump ran on.
Obamacare seems like a losing issue for us
He did get the individual mandate repealed in the tax cuts which was the most unpopular part of the law
>Trade
Trump can bolster the tariffs he's enacted and getting a better NAFTA deal
>Immigration
If he doesn't fuck it up today, he can promote Goodlatte and talk about the great effects of that bill.
>Obamacare
He got the individual mandate repealed, and he can tell them to vote for the Rs to get the full thing repealed in the next Congress, this works particularly well in Minnesota since premiums have risen by over 59% since the ACA was implemented.
>Terrorism
ISIS has been eliminated, and we're securing the border from any possible terrorists, he can push that very hard.
>Energy
There's a lot of pipelines that have been approved and we're on track to being energy independent and net exporters, Trump can push that which is a good nationalistic appeal.
So Trump has a large field of issues to push for this rally in Minnesota, this is not even mentioning NK, which shouldn't be the main pillar of the speech, but can be mentioned in passing.
think you could also talk about the increase of Manufacturing Jobs
Jobs are always important
@FLanon Join vc and get a load of this faggotry
I'm at work
Hi at work, I'm Dad!
Shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
But what faggotry exactly
DeusVulter going on and on about Hur dur muh union, hur dur you lost the war
Yankee faggot
oh ok
you rn
is he making gorilla noises again
@ThatRightWingFish Nigga u finna get dunced on
>when you abuse power
yep
I have the power of god!
5 hours left
"The Flores Settlement Agreement and court decisions interpreting it have hampered the Governmentโs ability to detain and promptly remove many Unaccompanied Alien Children (UACs) and family units."
Well the rhetoric on immigration certainly has gotten tougher over the past couple days
Hopefully Trump can keep that going in this address
Of course, but if you look into the webpge, it's all good stuff
Anyways, Button, do you have a link to news about Trump's meeting in the House?
Yeah yeah a bait and switch could happen
Right now I want a link to see if we can look at Trump talk to Congress
Alright
@zakattack04 no I'm right about that lol
ahahahahahahahahaha
What the hell is this?
the fuck lol
>but muh Karen
They better not fuck us over for Karens
Also good job from those ICE officers
God bless ICE and God bless Miller
I might actually miss the Vc because Iโm picking my mom up from the airport and by the time we get back it might be too late.
Well we'll have you updated on mobile
You'll know the situation depending on if we're suicidal by the time you get back
Good to know
I feel like I want to pray but I have no idea what to say and REPTILE isnโt here to help me out with it
Just pray, for Trump to condemn the Ryan bill and endorse the Goodlatte bill.
If you don't know what to say, God will intercede as Romans 8:26 says
**Romans 8:26 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<26> Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. ```
OH SHIT!!!
I KNOW THAT HOTEL!!!!
U.S. Plans to Withdraw From UN Human Rights Council Today https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2018-06-19/trump-is-said-ready-to-pull-u-s-from-un-s-human-rights-council
*dab*
>Primaries in DC
so many better uses of resources for us, really
Source of poll?
For Montana?
Lean D for Senate
Safe R for House
Gravis' recent polls seem suspect.
@Pielover19 yep
Show me The website
I want to see if itโs trustworthy
I would need to look at it.
But the results are just ridiculous.
The other polls have Scott up by 3-4, while Gravis says he's down by 10.
@๐Boo-ton๐ It would've been nicer if you posted this in <#439263169576304660>
and used comparable pics
Now spread the pic I made for you @๐Boo-ton๐
I wish he would come to Massachusetts.
@Deleted User I literally posted his approval ratings and you're still calling me wrong lol.
I think that's an inprovement.
Compared to May's Morning Consult numbers.
Source?
PPP?
When is vc?
Those guys are biased towards the Dems usually, so this is an excellent sign.
when is vc?
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