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this guy ran as a libertarian-ish Republican and lost 40% to Jerry Brown's 60%
he was pro amnesty along with other social issues
I see why the Californians here are the way they are
@๐Boo-ton๐ Look at this fucking moron...
"Saccone could've won if not for voter fraud"
*sniffles*
I smell damage control
@Deleted User face it
Tonight was a shellacking
such utter incompetence
either that or delusion
Oh but wait Button
The reuters poll said we got this righ!
haha red storm totally happeneing - RS
@๐Boo-ton๐ Oh button I forgot/
we can't mention our loses
because FLanon will spin that with gymnastics as unproductive
(i"m being sarcastic guys don't freak out)
>implying voter fraud isn't a thing
@zakattack04
>tonight was a shellacking
at this point I'm starting to think you're just blackpilling for the sake of it, though maybe I should have realized that sooner. GOP has higher numbers compared to 2014. Democrats actually have LOWER numbers compared to 2014 in Arkansas. What do you have to say about that ? Nothing, of course, because you ignore everything that runs contrary to your blackpill narrative
>spin that with gymnastics as unproductive
No, @FLanon says it's unproductive because....it is. Do you really not realize that constantly posting about how we're doomed because of >muh trends is counterproductive because the very aim of this Discord is for trying to win, no matter what
>(i"m being sarcastic guys don't freak out)
you're a useless Calinigger
Ouch man ok...
I thought you'd just have a good laugh because I even stated it was sarcasm
I'm sorry to soil your night.
@Deleted User New England Cuckold
x)
No need to take life so seriously all the time man...
Or even that, people.
Especially when they literally say "I'm being sarcastic" xD
But hey, maybe it's just a New Yorker thing
Being crammed in that huge city, surrounded by white socialist democrats has taken its toll on you bud x3
New York is mid-atlantic, not New England
also I like New York, and I don't take you seriously at all, that's the thing
I do feel it's necessary to correct you in front of the others in this Discord though
lol
says NY is NE
not nearly as cucked
it feels that way sometimes but no
i mean its still far from the real 'murica
but its not a lost cause. Mass is.
So gimmie a quick rundown on the good and the bad last night please
How was turnout in white areas, high or low?
@๐Boo-ton๐ what does +3.9 D on 538 mean, is it good or bad
yeah I'm also gonna need a rundown
+3.9 D on 538 is good
Anyways, just woke up, what's the good news and the bad news from last night exactly?
In Georgia, looks like we've got a higher number in the governor's race, and that means something because Georgia has open primaries, anyone can vote for anyone.
Looks like some fantastic news in Arkansas from what I've heard from RS.
On the poll BM posted with the dem higher up, which firm did that even come from? We are literally 9 hours away from the time we got the result, if it was actually taken a few hours after the results, then wouldn't that be at what, 2 in the fucking morning? If we can't control for other factors, then this of course is terrible news, but I'm not exactly sure if it's sound.
How did that guy do with the Deportation Bus?
5th place I think
Turnout was a little low in KY
Last I checked it was 100K Dem and 48K Republican
That's because of KY's one of those states that votes heavily R in generals but has dems registered
I mean
True but
Not even 50K
But didn't the Berniecrat win?
KY-06 is in an area on the map that's deep blue
Closed primaries, so if you're registered with a party, you have to vote with it in the primaries
I didn't know it was that blue
Trump won KY-06 right?
Yes
In 2012, there were 24,000 people who voted in the Republican primary.
Nice
So in order to win Georgia, we need high White Turnout
Unopposed in 2014
This is Alabama 2.0
We also need to keep as many whites from voting dem as possible
We need to make more propaganda
Targeting White Christains and just Whites in General
One thing about Georgia
Cagle hasn't won yet
He has to advance to a runoff election with Brian Kemp, so that's one thing to consider.
Anyways, getting back to KY-06
I am just reading about that
Who do we want to win the runoff
I want Kemp
We can't let that monkey win the governship
Anyways, on turnout in KY-06 for Democrats, 75k voted for dems in 2014, in 2018 they had 100k votes.
Yep
So, that means that from 2012 to 2018, the R primary vote doubled, whild the D primary vote went up 33% from 2014 to 2018.
This is good
So looking at Georgia 2016 Election Results, it looks like the top and bottom parts of the state are the Republican Strongholds
"I got a big truck... just in case I need to round up criminal illegals and take em home myself"
This line alone is why I endorsed him.
Nice
I feel like if this monkey runs like Clinton with the black shit, I feel like Whites will get angry and turn out
We'll have to see, really.
Yep
Is the runoff soon?
I'm not sure what a black woman do to turnout with black males.
Yeah
I think this election probably could be used as a barometer for looking at what maybe 2020 could be like if they run a black woman, because that's pretty rare in these elections.
Yeah
Also why the hell is the Republican Runoff in July
Just how it happens
Man
Sheittttt
I would like a source for that poll.
Howโd it go last night?
Pretty good.
Thatโs good to hear, what are the specifics.
Oh great Stacey Abrams won in Georgia
@๐Boo-ton๐ Where did your poll for KY-06 come from?
He probably pulled that out of his ass.
Whomst here believes we can get more seats in 2022?
Nope.
I spy New Hampshire, Colorado, and Nevada.
Illinois will be hard though.
But North Carolina, Florida, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Georgia.
>Arizona and Georgia
I wouldn't worry about these.
Same with WI and PA really
And NC
That's actually delusional.
2022 is a 6th year midterm.
WI and PA would need to be defended, but Georgia and North Carolina are Southern.
So what?
They're still purple.
Changing demographics and all.
Georgia isn't.
Yeah, but it's still competitive in a year that will probably be great for Dems.
Do you really think they wouldn't focus harder on Marco Rubio?
Toomey and Johnson won't win reelection without Trump on the ballot
They're going to focus those
Relative to Georgia and NC that is
And yeah that's what I was thinking
Johnson and Toomey are the main at-risk seats in 2022.
Johnson is retiring.
RIP
That's a democratic pickup
Oh, he's actually staying true to his term limits pledge.
We need to start carrying PA
That's exactly the demographic we need and if we lose them fug man
Agreed.
PA is absolutely crucial.
2022 looks like a horrible year for us
Also
The poll was from the DCCC
Fake news.
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Expected blackpill. 2014 was excellent for Republicans, and 2018 isn't that hot for us.
@Pielover19 It's over...
That could change when November comes
No one doesnโt know whatโs going to happen between now and November
So the NFL is fining players for kneeling during the anthem now
๐ | **GermanEastAfrica leveled up!**
Some cringe for you
West Virginia Senate GE: Manchin (D) 47% (+7) Morrisey (R) 40% Hollen (L) 4%
For Georgia in 2014, the dem was unopposed which might have something to do with it, not as much of a reason to go out to the polls. Still a bad thing though, I'd have to agree.
also, looks like nuke has a new pfp huh
I think 2022 is too far out to make any determinate calls, depending on how 2018 and 2020 go, there could be a number of ways it could turn out. If the environment is good with a productive congress and we've built up a very sturdy majority in the Senate, it will be manageable. It is a pretty bad map for us generally though, and probably devastating if we had that map this year.
@๐Boo-ton๐ 7 points lol
we gotta take em as they come
@FLanon still not sure where BM got that poll that showed McGrath 15 points ahead of Barr
yeah I found it
it was before, not after the primary yesterday
anyway, @Nuke
it was commissioned by the DCCC, so, grain of salt there
500 people asked by landline
about 2022
if Chuck Schumer retires and is replaced by a Roy Moore tier Dem, I can see us taking a seat in New York with a Scott Brown tier R in 2022
same with California and Illinois and Vermont and Connecticut and Maryland
Nevada and New Hampshire and Colorado should be competitive even without a Roy Moore tier Dem
@Pielover19 assuming Trump is POTUS in 2022, it'll be similar to 2018, which means that the environment favors the D's. However, like 2018, that doesn't guarantee a D victory in the same way that a D victory wasn't guaranteed in 2022
*in the same way a D victory wasn't guaranteed in 2002
I might not be so sure it's similar to 2018 depending on some circumstances
>BM literally spending most of xir energy, time, and focus on posting Democrat propaganda
@FLanon something tells me that Trump in his 2nd term would not compromise as much as in his 1st term
If we were to get a mandate congressionally this year followed by a victory in 2020, 2022's environment may be more favorable to Rs, however considering the map, it'll take a lot to get a net gain in the senate.
in the same way that Obama in his 2nd term was less conciliatory in comparison to his first term
also...2022 will be around the time people my age could be winning House seats, come to think of it
the minimum age for the House is 25, but the youngest one right now is Elise Stefanik at 33 (actually, I think Conor Lamb might be a few months younger)
I recall in 2008 a Republican named Aaron Schock won at age 27
Mine would have to be like 2024 or 2026 I think
at the earliest because I do have to start early in this day and age unlike certain people
I think the requirement for state legislature isn't as high
btw, I highly recommend volunteering with the Republican Party in your area this year though
also, speaking of 2022, let's talk about 2020
if the environment is favorable to a Trump re-election....
Ousting Doug Jones in Alabama seems effortless
taking that D seat in New Hampshire is not as easy, but definitely doable. Same thing with the seat in Michigan.
Minnesota should be about as hard as Michigan. Virginia could be around the same level.
in the same way that Democrats in 2012 generally benefited from having Obama at the top of the ballot, Republicans in 2020 will benefit from having Trump at the top of the ballot
if it's a Trump landslide year, I could see the R's taking those other solidly blue states as well, with Scott Brown tier candidates
We'll have to see how far it travels
how far what travels ?
Trump, depending on his performance, he could pave the way for Minnesota, Virginia, Oregon maybe.
It'll depend on 2018 to a large extent, productivity in Congress leading to Trump getting his promises passed would almost certainly secure reelection.
Obama and Trump are similar in many ways, like the fact that their base got pretty frustrated in their first year and a half, but one big difference between Obama and Trump is
Obama won in 2008 at a pretty high level of popularity, but there was nowhere to go but down, so it makes sense that he won by less in 2012
Trump won in 2016 in a very polarizing way, and his popularity was arguably low at the time, but that means there's nowhere to go but up
a huge reason why I'm so optimistic is the "normalization" phenomenon. You know how in the first days of the Trump admin, you had all these leftists screeching about refusing to 'normalize' Trump and how "this is NOT normal. I am literally shaking" ? Well, there's a good reason for them to be scared about that. The reason is because the millions of voters who sat home or voted Hillary or third party could easily view Trump as better than expected, which means that it's not so hard for Trump to win in 2020 at even greater margins
Guys, do you think itโs possible to repeal the 15th amendment?
it's technically possible in the same way that it's technically possible to repeal every other amendment
but the only scenario I see that happening in is if racial relations get to borderline civil war tier
and in that circumstance, we'll see actual civil war before a repeal of the 15th
14th is worse
Repealing the 15th is probably as hard as repealing the 13th.
You'll probably have a better time repealing the 26th or something.
And as FLanon said, the 14th is the worst.
It fucks up the entire country by not only adding an enumerated power for civil rights and giving the Congress the authority to combine it with its commerce authority and other such BS via the Necessary and Proper Clause, but the Supreme Court has fucked it up by making it effectively bind the federal and state levels of government to the same restrictions on power.
Just because the Second Amendment guarantees a federal right to own and use nukes and battleships doesn't mean that it was intended to preserve those rights for states--in one amazingly telling example.
But the theory of Trump being normalized could work out, he's definitely going to need to make some more presidential moves, not as much cucking as just doing stuff a president would do, just overall being more likable. Lot of ways to do it, he could get a dog, go to the world series, but it doesn't really cost him anything politically.
Another example is that states were originally allowed to establish and restrict religion.
And now that they've even made it so that liberal states can pass "rights" and the federal government can be forced to enforce them nationwide, the Fourteenth Amendment is operating in a means far from that which was originally intended.
One of the most hilarious examples of Fourteenth Amendment overreach was that SCOTUS held that the Fourth Amendment created a "right to privacy" which guaranteed married people the right to contraception, then ruled that because unmarried people were not receiving equal protection, the Fourteenth Amendment also applied to unmarried pepole.
NEW: Rep. Tom GARRETT -- a GOP freshman from Virginia -- is considering not seeking reelection and has abruptly parted ways with his chief of staff
Hopefully this results in Virgil Goode taking his seat back
<:wojaktrump:422438927631384577>
Pie
Yes?
Pls whitepill
"Considering"
Also, did Gillespie lose this district in 2017?
If he didn't, that's a good sign.
Let me check
Yikes
This is R+6 district
Oof.
But if Gillespie won it, I would say it would stay with the Republicans.
Guess what city this district compromises of
Charlottesville
AAAAAAAAA
Well, let's start freaking out if he actually retires.
These representatives are creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Yeah, if Barrett retires, you should adjust the Crystal ball
Definitely.
https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/stuck_in_the_middle_east.jpg
Zyklon Ben at it Again
Alright, things look good.
Gillespie won by a decent margin, so if that guy retires I'll either put it at lean or likely Republican.
I thought he lost
He did lose
In that district, though.
I'm worried VA-02 could be competitive as well
Hi worried VA-02 could be competitive as well, I'm Dad!
This is the Hampton Roads part of the state,
barely went for Trump in 2016 and has been moving more blue ever since
@Pielover19 whew
So Rep. Tom Garrett says he's not resigning and will be putting out a statement soon.
"I'm not resigning. I can tell you that definitively."
**AAHHHH**
Alright, @๐Boo-ton๐ has been warned because '**Mass mention**'.
what
Wisconsin Governor GE:
Tony Evers (D) 49% (+4)
Scott Walker (R-inc) 45%
ok
Blue Wisconsin... <:wojaktrump:422438927631384577>
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