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There are lot of people out there,
who disapprove Trump solely on the basis of his character
He's not going to change
What did you expect LOL
Seriously!?
and it'll hurt him
It did
And he still won, so it's evident there are more people that care about policy than Trump's character because he was WORSE on the campaign trail and still flipped 4 states which haven't gone in red 30 years!
He would've done better
Trump isn't going to change, I think it's more important to focus on people we can influence.
Like what exactly
Tell our Representatives what matters
if we can't effect policy
what then
Vote Scalise as speaker
Is a start
Tell them to support Scalise over McCarthy
That's a sttart
I don't even want Scalise, I want Jim Jordan or Mark Meadows as speaker
We're a long way from that
It's a progression, we can get there
Ugh, fine
Look Button, I'm not trying to say you're wrong about everything.
You know you're stuff when you talk about what really should happen
But most of it isn't feasible yet, were still a small minority in the Republican Party
I agree with you, our chances for 2018 are terrible. On average the in the 1st midterm, the party in power loses 32 seats. So take that, on top of the average of 17 point swing in every district special election so far, and yeah our prospects are awful right now, we have absolutely not a single realistic advantage against the Democrats. The trends, the media, the public opinion, the narrative, and enthusiasm, all in Democratic favor.
And it's not going to get better,
at least in terms of demographics
Yeah that too.
we're not minority, and we'll never change
which is why we need to change things NOW while we still have numbers
we're rapidly declining
Well furthermore politically right now, we have a two decade opportunity to stack the Senate with republicans, and our chance is going to be wasted because of the current environment
you say feasible "yet"
Please, it'll only get harder from here on out
Yeah that's my point too.
But people don't know this stuff Button
They need to hear it
We need to get the republicans as a majority on board with us.
Most of them still believe the Neoconservative positions
That race doesn't matter
Individualism is key
such a suicidal mentality
Inventionalism is good
Yeah it is
But we have no chances to saving America if we can't even get out own allies on board
This stuff you tell us
Other people need to hear it
It is important they know
okay
so we're going to need more people from OH, WV, and IN
No I'm saying just...
As a whole
We need everyone to know.
Republicans need to ditch this establishment narrative
The stuff Ben Shapiro supports
All these intellectuals,
like Peterson and Shapiro
People are just unaware, or they don't care.
Yeah?
trying to drive White Males from racial solidarity,
we gotta combat it somehow
It really is something I have no clue on what we can do
I don't either
So far we've been utterly ineffective in that measure.
https://youtu.be/qT_YSPxxFJk?t=4452 @๐Boo-ton๐ @zakattack04 @FLanon Re: Jordan Peterson driving whites from racial solidarity.
We definitely need to build up the pipeline from former lefties and apolitical types, to these moderate "enlighteners", then over to our fight. We have to obtain that sort of visibility to go change the consensus. I think guys like Peterson can do a lot of good, let's face it, we all (except button mash) started out watching videos from these types of people. So, we have to make the difference, get into the republican organizations, go to CPAC, that sort of thing, so we can wrestle control from these types, and get more people specifically to where we are. Sounds tough, and it is, but it's what has to be done.
GOP is gunna blow it
They blew PA-18, and Virginia
What evidence is there they've learned their lesson
OO look at that
All the types of there
In one sentence
Yikes!
46% of voters support Sanders' jobs program!!! - Rasmussen
NEW Poll Senate Races:
WVSen:
GOP 43 (+14)
Manchin (D - incumbent) 29
NDSen:
GOP 38 (+8)
Heitkamp (D- incu) 30
AZsen:
GOP 40 (+6)
Dem 34
INSen:
GOP 39 (+5)
Donnelly (D โ incu) 34
MOsen:
Hawley (R) 38 (+5)
McCaskill (D - incu) 33
MTSen:
GOP 42 (+5)
Tester (D - incu) 37
- Morning Consult
hmm
<@&432627153805377536> <@&399683356218097667>
What do you think of these numbers
FLSen:
Scott (R) 38 (+1)
Nelson (D - Incumbent) 37
PASen:
Casey (D - incu) 39 (+1)
GOP Candidate 38
OHSen:
Brown (D - incu) 38 (+2)
GOP 36
VAsen:
Tim Kaine (D - incu) 39 (+3)
GOP 36
mfw Tim Kaine leads by 3 points... <:wojaktrump:422438927631384577>
NVsen:
Dem Candidate 38 (+2)
Heller (R) 36
WISen:
Baldwin 40 (+5)
GOP 35
>only 3 points
>GOP has 14 point lead over Manchin
>in a state Trump won by 42 points... <:wojaktrump:422438927631384577>
because Manchin is is a blue dog who was quite popular until recently
also, this is the kind of thing we can exploit
I'm surprised PA is polling better than OH
Hi surprised PA is polling better than OH, I'm Dad!
>dems win house
>republican supermajority senate
Those are fantastic numbers in the Senate, especially Virginia where we've potentially got (at least in my opinion) a really strong candidate who's running.
@FLanon Keep in mind,
this is the Dem incumbent vs "generic Republican"
@Deleted User I think the odds are in our favor as to the Republican party gaining/holding a # of seats. As for electing people who deserve to be elected, I'm unsure
@๐Boo-ton๐ yeah really
What the fuck is going on with Ohio
How are they polling worse then FLORDIA
LOL WHAT
where are those "new poll numbers" from?
Wisconsin is terrible too, what a fucking disaster
Those are the states we need, the rust belt UGH
How can any of that be interpreted as a disaster?
Wisconsin Trump won
Is an all white state which is the demographic you're targeting
And she has a 5 point advanatge
So not only are we failing to reach the people we need to vote for us
We're failing to win states Trump carried (which isn't totally our fault)
She is an incumbent, she has an inherent advantage.
But it is subject to change yes yah yah
Uhhh
So do all the others
Yet even PA is polling better than her
Yes, and they're leaning to us, so that's even better
WI is not leaning to us
That's a 5 point advantage in a WWC state
Yeah, not WI
That's terrible
What the fuck are you even talking about?
Wisconsin
We stand to have 56 seats in the Senate if this is accurate, Tim Kaine is within MOE, PA is close
And what's with Ohio too
That state was pretty damn pro trump
Incumbent advantage, what can I say?
That's the only reason?
Bullshit
For a while, Manchin was leading against the generic Rs
Incumbents get defeated all the time
There's a bump though which makes things easier to keep in reelection.
These are great baselines, we can take fucking defeat Tim Kaine!
Who cares s out Virginia!? It's not white anymore
What the fuck?
You want the Rust belt states with white working class
A Senate seat is a senate seat
That's who we need
Virginia is only going to get more blue m
White states can get more red
So damn we need to get on those
What the fuck are you on about, this is amazing?
Most of it is.
Wisconsin Ohio isnt
That I'd terrible
Is^
Fucking Tim Kaine, someone who 2 years ago was the favorite to be the Vice fucking President, is in jeopardy.
VA is only going to get more blue so even if we win it this time it woet stay red
WI and OH though can get more red
Those states are more important to gain and maintain contorl
This is our chance to get the agendas through easily, we need to collect all we can grab
Ugh
We do not ditch a single state.
Agreed
But we aren't taking what is important
Is the problem
Our own targeted demographic isn't supporting our people
Casey's within MOE, Brown's within MOE, Kaine's within MOE, Tester's getting beat, McCaskill's getting beat, Donnelly's getting beat, and you're focusing on Wisconsin which wasn't seen as red until 2 years ago.
I'm focusing on PA OH and WI
Hi focusing on PA OH and WI, I'm Dad!
PA is fantastic news!
We're so damn close
Take the polls with a grain of salt because democrats are energized through the roof so the WILL OVERPERFORM
They*
That is inarguable.
I'm sorry, I just can't see what there possibly is to be frustrated about here
Hi sorry, I just can't see what there possibly is to be frustrated about here, I'm Dad!
These aren't even near where we need them, it's like whitr people done care about this agenda we support
Yeah it could be worse
I'll give you that
I think the Buttonisms of the "glass is an eighth empty" sort of rhetoric is getting to you
It's still not that great news
No it's not in not button >.>
He blames trump for everything and whines
I don't think I've ever been like "DRUMPF@IS FINISHED"
Even ironically
But still
It's about looking at great news and finding a way to get depressed by it
It's not great
It's above average
Tim Kaine being beatable is not great?
Come on, this is such a great opportunity we have with ourselves, we've got to capitalize
You're Looking at the short term
The long term is we aren't convincing the demographic we need
The white working class
The rust belt is still way to in the democratic advanatge for 2018
And I'll brb
In class
This entire discord is about 2018!
It's about the short term ffs
!help
Celebrate when we get good news!
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Stop celebrating, it's only ok news
And no it's about every election
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@FLanon RS made a Huge paragraph post about how this is no longer about just the midterms
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That's what's in our vision and that was the origin
I spent several days with no sleep making a shitty dadjoke bot
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It was the origin
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It's not the vision anymore
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Stop getting blackpilled by good news jesus
It's about both short and long term
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