It was unpopular because the media lied

It got more popular after it passed

So?

That was well established

It was still unpopular

and it got through

the same can be done on immigration

People seem to like the@

Them*

Well he actually cant

What's the difference then

Because he got 50 senators for it

He won't get them again

and also,

reducing immigration is popular

Susan Collins, Flake, and Murkowski won't support it

e-verify is popular

all Trump's immigration programs,

except the wall

Immigration reform isn't even at 50%

are popular

there's a difference between "approval" and "importance"

The economy and budget deficit fixing are higher than immigration

Do you think congress works on what voters find important or popular most the time

People have found prison reform popular forever

no

It's not important though

That's why Trump needs to put pressure

Ok now you're giving a different stance

Trump has the American people on his side on sanctuary cities

screw the Courts

and these ridiculous Congressmen

Putting pressure, is different from deliberating attacking Congressmen and making sure they can't win reelection

Screw the courts!?

they're all judicial activists

do you have any fucking clue what would happen if Trump just did what he wanted

THEY ARE

Trump should tell them to go to hell

That's true!

But this isn't the 1800s anymore BM

I don't care

Trump can't say, "they have made their ruling, now let them enforce it."

We don't have time

Demographics will doom Republicans

The clock is ticking

This isn't an argument.

there is just no time to play by the rules

The end doesn't justify the means in most people's eyes

Trump needs to break them and fight

Mr. Machiavelli, people don't support what you want to do

Or I want to do

Okay so?

You can't just break the law to save the country, no one would support@us

Most people support universal healthcare

Does that mean we give it to them?

Yep

No, of course not

We fight for OUR priorities

What are you going to attack Congess because they pass it?

Even if it means we have to them on some mob

If they pass it what are you gunna do

Well, then I'll organize more people to vote for them

The same any pressure group would do

Reward them with more votes

I'm not fighting for them to win, I'm fighting for us to win. But it's not like you can just become a criminal to implement your agenda and get elected to do it

Hi not fighting for them to win, I'm fighting for us to win. But it's not like you can just becoming a criminal to implement your agenda and get elected to do it, I'm Dad!

Let's be clear BM

Trump doesn't need to

We our a substantial minority of the republican core base

That sanctuary city thing was just an example

Most people are Ben Shapiro/TedCruz type Republicans

Prove it

Where's the data to back that up

Who's more popular

Ben Shapiro or Steve King

Ted Cruz or Tom Cotton

We don't even have a leader lol

Nobody knows who Shapiro is aside from stupid libertarians and thug-life "own the lib" anti-sjws

Umm

He's has the largest national following of conservatives under 30

So the Gen Z people

also his jewish intellectual pals at Weekly Standard and National Review

but that's like 3 people

be back hold on

What?

you think Ben has 3 followers?

He has largest fucking following of any right winger dude!

And Steven Crowder has like 2 million

Look,

this is so simple

There are a lot of good immigration in the House right now

All Trump has to do is,

We don't even have a leader in the current political landscape that represents paleoconservatism or ethno nationalism

tell Ryan to bring the bill to a vote

That's how small of a minority we are

publically

The Goodlatte bill!?

and put him in the spot everyday

How is that ever going to pass the Senate

Find me a way

put pressure on every congressman

make them face the voters!

They've already done that, there are 310 bills that passed the house and are waiting on the Senate

And no one cares

make them explain why they don't want to end chain migration!

What makes them think they're going to care about #311

Look kidm

I know,

immigration is not the most important issue

You act like people want what you're trying to do

but it's an issue where Trump can win

They don't

You saw the graph

Even republicans put everything else ahead of immigration

Terrorism!

importance =/= popularity

don't be stupid

It's a fact of the matter of what matters to the voters

and come on, kid, it's one fucking poll

I can do the same

It's not the only one!

There are PLENTY showing a far greater importance/popularity with healthcare over immigration

Even the one you posted

Immigration was THIRD

and that was on popularity

Nope

Yup

Immigration is the biggest issue among Republicans and Trump's voters

that's all that matters

the base, the base, the base

his base is big enough

Not for independents, who are the reason we'll keep our seats

all that matter is turnout

A Wall, and immigration reform would energize his base to actually go out and vote

hold on

Wouldn't matter because you need the independents too

And they want healthcare stuff

talk about a fractured caucus, you two are polar opposites

😄

Yep

And I'm extremely right wing

I do say even in this so called republic

Imagine getting a moderate like Susan Collins to agree with what we want to do on immigration

my rights can be voted away by a mob

which blows

I just want a monarchy led by the Trump dynasty to reign for a thousand years.

Well that's theoretically in a democracy

@Nuke this

what a quote by Guiliani, eh?

“This is our best president in my memory,” he told Hannity. “Even my hero, Ronald Reagan — he straightened the economy out the way President Trump did. But he didn’t get this far ahead on foreign policy as fast as President Trump has.”

“Look at what is going on with North Korea,” he continued. “I told the president, you’re going to get the Nobel Peace Prize and my proudest moment is when you tell them to shove it.”

he's killing it

I love Trump

@Nuke nuke is right

What we should do

The most depressing part about Trump is that I can't think of a 2024 candidate that can come close to him

Is an amendment to give trump absolute control until he dies, and then the govenrment will return back to normal buisness

@jpc1976 yup

@🎃Boo-ton🎃

I told you, we are a minority

@jpc1976 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_Jr.

DJT Jr is like the Frexit to Trump's Brexit.

He's the real prize.

hmmm I dunno

Remember when Trump mocked being presidential when they sent him to campagin for Rick Saccone?

That was amazing

Jr can't do that

@zakattack04 keep in mind that chart in <#401223003779760168> is from 2015-2016 so it's probably changed alot since then

Like say Ron Paul, right....ideologically better than Trump, but can't wheel and deal and rally like Trump. Trump is one of a kind

The study that I got it from was published in June 2017 too

This is more current

and as you can see immigration is pretty important to Republicans

We need to start doing healthcare stuff.

You mean again?

Trump botched healthcare

He trusted Ryan and he blew it

McConnell blew it.

And so did McCain

The truth is Trump doesn't know a damn in regards to healthcare,

The House would've passed essentially fucking anything.

on the campaign trail,

yeah shut up

Trump said he wouldn't make cuts to social security and medicare

well, that's the stupid GOP bill did

The healtcare reform was gonna cut medicare?

One of the bills would have

Look,

yes,

Congress is fractured

Which is an even bigger reason Trump's leadership role is so important

But Trump just decided to remain absent through the whole thing because he foolishly trusted Congress

Trump said it best himself

He thought Congress would just send him bills when he took office

That's not how it works, Trump needs to steer the ship, he's the captain, he makes the choices

and look, would it work?

if Trump were to stage a big fight?

I don't okay

But at least he would've tried

Look, zak, I have great respect for you

but just because it might "not work" doesn't mean he shouldn't give it a chance

guess what?

There was a significant chance Trump would lose the election

Support for Trump is more or less a litmus test in a lot of the primary races

That didn't stop him from winning

Because he fought, and fought, until he won

I think feel your kinda exagerrating how much congress opposes him

He has to do the same here

The man problem is in the Senate

Well, they're not giving him his immigration reform, Walter

Congress as a whole is bad

There are a lot of good Congressmen

but as a collective, it's an anti-Trump coalition

They passed kate's law and a bunch of other stuff in the house its just that it was DOA in the Senate

And most of the pro immigrant Congress members like Flake, Corker, and Ryan are retiring

Yeah, but it's not like we're going to get what we want in 2019

the House is going to be thinned out

John McCains gonna probably die this year too

and I'll be honest, I think the Senate could be in jeopardy too

It probably won't stay that way

since we have really good people running

but we need to deliver on Trump's agenda NOW

The Republican Party can't keep doing this routine,

"Oh, just vote give us the House"

"Oh, just give us the Senate"

"Oh, just give us the White House"

Well, now Republicans have everything

And they STILL can't pass anything

You really think they're going to be able to convince their voters to come out a **fourth** time in a row?

This "just come out for us one more time" song and dance can only be done so many times before the voters say "Oh screw you, I'm done"

What do you want me tell to you?

Our political institutions were designed around only having incremental change

Well, then it's going to cost us in November

Unless Republicans can pass something concrete before them

Well,

amidst the doom and gloom,

here's some good news:

It’s been 3 weeks since Ryan announced his retirement and there have been zero other House R retirements.

But with all this korea stuff

Walter hit the nail on the head

doesnt it give trump a huge chance of winning

@Walter Johnson

"Our political institutions were designed for incremental change"

@Swamp Killer trump yeah, not the republican congress though

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 look man, I'm mad too

I'm mad at my ineffective party, our pathetic leaders, and our spineless base resulting to people like Ben Shapiro

Hi mad at my ineffective party, our pathetic leaders, and our spineless base resulting to people like Ben Shapiro, I'm Dad!

I'm tired of this stupid bot

Hi tired of this stupid bot, I'm Dad!

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