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2018-04-23 21:16:33 UTC

Nixon definitely did

2018-04-23 21:16:40 UTC

"Silent majority" periodically makes comebacks when it looks like a Republican will win but you hear much more support for the opponent.

2018-04-23 21:16:55 UTC

Nixon was sorta like Trump. He called McGovern a commie hippy and everything.

2018-04-23 21:17:13 UTC

And unlike Nixon Trump barely won

2018-04-23 21:17:14 UTC

well if the shoe fits

2018-04-23 21:17:24 UTC

It was a campaign message

2018-04-23 21:17:36 UTC

1% and we're stuck with Madame President

2018-04-23 21:17:37 UTC

I don't think they knew it was going to play out the way it did

2018-04-23 21:18:17 UTC

The trump campaign was very smart at social media

2018-04-23 21:18:25 UTC

even though the ground game was actually dog shit

2018-04-23 21:18:35 UTC

Anyways, yeah, leftists are much more vocal in activism and all that and the right wing isn't good at it

2018-04-23 21:18:39 UTC

The ground game was decent

2018-04-23 21:18:43 UTC

Not really

2018-04-23 21:18:52 UTC

You had a bunch of rallies, Trump was stopping in diners

2018-04-23 21:18:58 UTC

That's not a ground game

2018-04-23 21:19:08 UTC

A ground game is people knocking on doors, making phone calls.

2018-04-23 21:19:17 UTC

Not Trump just popping around for a bit

2018-04-23 21:19:21 UTC

Well then that's different

2018-04-23 21:19:32 UTC

Trump doesn't need a ground game because he's a household name

2018-04-23 21:19:49 UTC

Hardly

2018-04-23 21:19:53 UTC

Everyone knew-to some capacity-who Trump was before the campaign.

2018-04-23 21:20:04 UTC

There are plenty of people on our side who don't vote, aren't registered, etc

2018-04-23 21:20:08 UTC

He was a giant in real estate

2018-04-23 21:20:38 UTC

You do realise a ground game isn't just to spread name recognition?

2018-04-23 21:20:44 UTC

Everyone knows who Hillary is as well

2018-04-23 21:21:07 UTC

I don't know, it's just that you have to scale the importance

2018-04-23 21:21:27 UTC

The rallies were the biggest advantage Trump had in 2016

2018-04-23 21:21:28 UTC

Most of the ground game is getting people to actually vote

2018-04-23 21:21:31 UTC

@Deleted User Nixon barely won in 1968

2018-04-23 21:21:55 UTC

Trump campaign had huge oppertunity to get white working class voters registered

2018-04-23 21:22:00 UTC

they failed almost totally at that

2018-04-23 21:22:02 UTC

Ehh

2018-04-23 21:22:14 UTC

For the popular vote it was close

2018-04-23 21:22:33 UTC

@Deleted User you're not making sense

2018-04-23 21:22:36 UTC

go take your anti depressants

2018-04-23 21:22:40 UTC

It would have been much stronger had Trump's ground game not been trash

2018-04-23 21:22:41 UTC

Lol

2018-04-23 21:22:43 UTC

But Nixon had a major clear advantage over Humphrey in the electoral college

2018-04-23 21:23:00 UTC

If Trump was given the kind of ground game Hillary did

2018-04-23 21:23:03 UTC

He would have easily won

2018-04-23 21:23:11 UTC

I think Wallace took a bit from Nixon's vote.

2018-04-23 21:23:23 UTC

I'm not sure about that

2018-04-23 21:23:33 UTC

@FLanon slight popular vote margins can result in large electoral college margins

2018-04-23 21:23:33 UTC

That is an untrue statement

2018-04-23 21:23:36 UTC

The kind of people who vote for Trump are the ones who know already

2018-04-23 21:23:36 UTC

Hillary campaign knocked on way more doors, made way more phone clals

2018-04-23 21:23:38 UTC

The Trump campaign really could've done more GOTV yeah.

2018-04-23 21:23:44 UTC

I mean, technically you can win 49 states and lose the popular vote

2018-04-23 21:23:54 UTC

I don't think so

2018-04-23 21:23:54 UTC

But the thing is that GOTV for WWC is basically done by unions.

2018-04-23 21:24:05 UTC

If we had that level of activism we would have done much better

2018-04-23 21:24:06 UTC

So he needed to expand his union support for that really

2018-04-23 21:24:13 UTC

Nevada, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Maine, etc would have flipped

2018-04-23 21:24:19 UTC

Trump's not the kind of person you knock down a door for and appeal to moderacy, either you're on the train or you're not.

2018-04-23 21:24:34 UTC

And for the millions of people who aren't registered?

2018-04-23 21:24:45 UTC

I don't think they'd vote for Trump

2018-04-23 21:24:52 UTC

You'd be surprised

2018-04-23 21:24:58 UTC

He'd be scary to the kind of person who's apolitical

2018-04-23 21:25:06 UTC

Even if just 5% of non voters in Nevada got out and voted for Trump.

2018-04-23 21:25:09 UTC

The fact is we need to do all this sort of stuff to increase turnout.

2018-04-23 21:25:12 UTC

He would have easily flipped the state

2018-04-23 21:25:14 UTC

Of course

2018-04-23 21:25:23 UTC

He won

2018-04-23 21:25:26 UTC

I just don't think it's as vital as it's made out to be

2018-04-23 21:25:27 UTC

I think 1-3% is more realistic.

2018-04-23 21:25:29 UTC

Get over it

2018-04-23 21:25:35 UTC

Huh?

2018-04-23 21:25:47 UTC

Why are you bitching

2018-04-23 21:25:48 UTC

Am I not allowed to make legitimate critiques just because he won?

2018-04-23 21:25:55 UTC

Things can always be improved upon

2018-04-23 21:26:04 UTC

You can but your arguments are pretty shit

2018-04-23 21:26:08 UTC

How?

2018-04-23 21:26:12 UTC

Hindsight is 20/20

2018-04-23 21:26:12 UTC

The fact is if you want a better ground game you should donate to the campaign

2018-04-23 21:26:14 UTC

Okay?

2018-04-23 21:26:29 UTC

We don't know where we should have campaigned for until the results come out.

2018-04-23 21:26:32 UTC

We don't really do much of that here--but you're welcome to do that.

2018-04-23 21:26:44 UTC

I already do donate

2018-04-23 21:26:49 UTC

I never anticipated winning Wisconsin or getting close in Minnesota

2018-04-23 21:27:10 UTC

For Trump supporters in Wisconsin

2018-04-23 21:27:14 UTC

Yeah I was surprised he won Michigan and Wisconsin

2018-04-23 21:27:20 UTC

I thought we would win Nevada and New Hampshire, when the results come out, they come out.

2018-04-23 21:27:22 UTC

@Deleted User you shouldn't have been

2018-04-23 21:27:33 UTC

Well

2018-04-23 21:27:40 UTC

Sure but still

2018-04-23 21:27:40 UTC

Also Wisconsin had a huge senate race

2018-04-23 21:27:46 UTC

That night felt so amazing

2018-04-23 21:27:47 UTC

We never know how a race will ultimately turn out and what we "should've done" until all the chips are down.

2018-04-23 21:27:48 UTC

it makes sense that Trump won those states

2018-04-23 21:27:51 UTC

So there was always a need to get involved there regardless

2018-04-23 21:28:00 UTC

anyone who was really paying attention wouldn't be surprised about it

2018-04-23 21:28:02 UTC

I didn't see that on the night but now I do

2018-04-23 21:28:20 UTC

That night

2018-04-23 21:28:26 UTC

Man I will never forget

2018-04-23 21:28:37 UTC

I was paying attention, I was on /pol/ nonstop in those days

2018-04-23 21:28:45 UTC

I expected Hillary to win and probably gain Senate

2018-04-23 21:28:46 UTC

Everyone had their eyes on New Hampshire

2018-04-23 21:28:50 UTC

I wasn't based back then

2018-04-23 21:28:57 UTC

And that Maine district

2018-04-23 21:29:02 UTC

I was T_D type during the election

2018-04-23 21:29:17 UTC

New Hampshire was a serious shame

2018-04-23 21:29:30 UTC

We could have at least won their senate seat

2018-04-23 21:29:34 UTC

To this day I believe that state was stolen

2018-04-23 21:29:40 UTC

And maybe Nevada

2018-04-23 21:29:49 UTC

But some absolute retard ran as an independent conservative ran and gave it to the dem

2018-04-23 21:29:51 UTC

same in Nevda

2018-04-23 21:29:53 UTC

*Nevada

2018-04-23 21:29:58 UTC

He wasn't a retard

2018-04-23 21:30:05 UTC

He knew exactly what he was doing

2018-04-23 21:30:05 UTC

Minnesota I think we can gain in 2020

2018-04-23 21:30:15 UTC

McMuffin

2018-04-23 21:30:20 UTC

Pretty much all of Minnesota is up in 2018

2018-04-23 21:30:24 UTC

@Deleted User hating on T_D is counterproductive

2018-04-23 21:30:41 UTC

I was saying that I was like T_D type

2018-04-23 21:30:45 UTC

fucking egghead mcmuffin

2018-04-23 21:30:50 UTC

Yeah shit is cringy but

2018-04-23 21:30:51 UTC

McMullin didn't run for Senate

2018-04-23 21:30:58 UTC

We could've gotten Minnesota for fucks sake

2018-04-23 21:30:59 UTC

McMuffin was in Utah

2018-04-23 21:31:00 UTC

Lol

2018-04-23 21:31:08 UTC

He had ballot access nationwide

2018-04-23 21:31:13 UTC

most states anyway

2018-04-23 21:31:22 UTC

He only won lots in Utah

2018-04-23 21:31:44 UTC

Yeah but there's a lot of states we lost by a razor thin margin

2018-04-23 21:31:59 UTC

Only really New Hampshire and Minnesota fit that margin

2018-04-23 21:32:06 UTC

New Hampshire, Minnesota, someone like egghead mcmuffin makes the difference in those states

2018-04-23 21:32:27 UTC

Even then we still could have had those Senate seats :/

2018-04-23 21:32:42 UTC

$25 to Joe Heck and Kelly Ayotte went down the drain

2018-04-23 21:50:29 UTC

McMullin got the endorsement of the Independence Party--the traditional anti-NAFTA party of MN, which elected Jesse Ventura and was once called the Reform Party of MN.

2018-04-23 21:50:47 UTC

Thus he actually had some clout in the state in 2016, yes.

2018-04-23 22:04:36 UTC

Hey y'all

2018-04-23 22:06:46 UTC

Sorry I just disappeared earlier

2018-04-23 22:50:37 UTC

#NM01 Democratic Primary:
Haaland 15%
Lopez 15%
Davis 11%
Martinez 7%

@ppppolls/@PatDavisNM Internal Poll 4/13-15
https://t.co/wCp7KcnREe

2018-04-23 23:36:25 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/438120994230763521/button.PNG

2018-04-23 23:38:40 UTC

^This guy gets it

2018-04-23 23:44:09 UTC

So does this guy who is definitely not me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/438122941755162624/me_rite_now.jpg

2018-04-23 23:44:27 UTC

Working overtime

2018-04-23 23:44:56 UTC

Trump is going to make more blacks vote than would've if a different republican won

2018-04-23 23:52:38 UTC

#OH12 Republican Primary:
Balderson 17%
Leneghan 11%
Kane 10%
Bacon 10%
O'Brien 7%

Public Opinion Strategies/@Troy_Balderson Internal Poll 4/15-16
https://t.co/XysYc4JPTd

2018-04-23 23:54:58 UTC

That's odd

2018-04-23 23:55:03 UTC

Kane is ranking third

2018-04-23 23:55:26 UTC

Yet Kane is outraising the other two

2018-04-24 00:07:48 UTC

RT @GallupNews: U.S. registered voters solidly believe that President Donald Trump does not deserve to be re-elected, by 59% to 37%... httpโ€ฆ

2018-04-24 00:12:31 UTC

Yikes

2018-04-24 00:20:17 UTC

sounds like a questionable poll

2018-04-24 00:22:39 UTC

West Virginia Senate - Republican Primary:
Morrisey 24%
Jenkins 20%
Blankenship 12%
Willis 3%
Copley 1%
Newbrough 1%
Undecided 39%

National Research Inc./@GOPAC 4/17-19
https://t.co/ro1rrr58oq #WVsen

2018-04-24 00:23:03 UTC

YES YES YES

2018-04-24 00:23:07 UTC

No Blankenship!

2018-04-24 00:23:22 UTC

Too bad Copley didn't get momentum. He would've won in a landslide.

2018-04-24 00:24:37 UTC

That's pretty good for us

2018-04-24 00:34:49 UTC

West Virginia Senate GE:
Republican Candidate 41% (+4)
Joe Manchin (D) 37%

National Research Inc./@GOPAC 4/17-19
https://t.co/ro1rrr58oq #WVsen

2018-04-24 00:35:09 UTC

WHOA

2018-04-24 00:35:18 UTC

Heheheheh

2018-04-24 00:35:18 UTC

That's _really_ good!

2018-04-24 00:35:27 UTC

Make West Virginia Great Again!

2018-04-24 00:35:52 UTC

interesting

2018-04-24 00:36:12 UTC

I thought WV would be tougher than Ohio because of Manchin's popularity

2018-04-24 00:36:22 UTC

finally

2018-04-24 00:36:24 UTC

Apparently not

2018-04-24 00:36:25 UTC

the dam breaks

2018-04-24 00:36:40 UTC

day of the ""blue dog"" is coming

2018-04-24 00:36:49 UTC

@FLanon Finally a good poll, right? It's been blackpilling as of late

2018-04-24 00:37:03 UTC

yeah pretty much

2018-04-24 00:37:16 UTC

WV may be easier to pull off than a lot of these other states

2018-04-24 00:37:17 UTC

watch manchin win by double digits

2018-04-24 00:42:18 UTC

ITS OVER

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/438137575325302786/say_it.jpg

2018-04-24 00:46:10 UTC

What is that?

2018-04-24 00:47:30 UTC

1988 Presidential Election

2018-04-24 00:50:48 UTC

WEST VIRGINIA
Sen. Joe Manchin (D) Job Approval:
Approve 51%
Disapprove 36%

National Research Inc./@GOPAC 4/17-19
https://t.co/ro1rrrmJfY

2018-04-24 00:50:49 UTC

WEST VIRGINIA
Trump Job Approval:
Approve 62%
Disapprove 34%

National Research Inc./@GOPAC 4/17-19
https://t.co/ro1rrrmJfY

2018-04-24 00:53:48 UTC

TFW Trump is stronger than Manchin.

2018-04-24 00:53:53 UTC

He's gotta campaign here.

2018-04-24 00:53:58 UTC

Without a doubt

2018-04-24 00:54:12 UTC

does anyone know if he's helped their economy as promised

2018-04-24 00:54:15 UTC

West Virginia would vote for Trump is Jesus was on the ballot.

2018-04-24 00:54:31 UTC

Record low unemployment.

2018-04-24 00:54:41 UTC

No wonder

2018-04-24 00:54:41 UTC

Coal mines not closing down as often.

2018-04-24 00:54:58 UTC

slowing down the inevitable

2018-04-24 00:55:14 UTC

It's less of Trump doing things, more of him not suffocating the coal industry with regulation after regulation.

2018-04-24 00:55:28 UTC

I think West Virginia could become a tourist paradise, though.

2018-04-24 00:55:41 UTC

Ecotourism, spin that off into resorts and casinos.

2018-04-24 00:55:55 UTC

I love WV. I go multiple times a year

2018-04-24 00:55:56 UTC

If I had the capital I would look into doing that.

2018-04-24 00:56:10 UTC

but don't tell anyone...

2018-04-24 00:56:30 UTC

West Virginia is an amazing place.

2018-04-24 00:56:45 UTC

What went wrong

2018-04-24 00:56:47 UTC

Disproved the poverty makes crime theory.

2018-04-24 00:57:33 UTC

Trump's approval is so high in this state for one reason: demographics.
WV is one of the most White, Rural, Evangelical Protestant states in the country.
Much like Alabama.

2018-04-24 00:57:48 UTC

Except Alabama is not as White.

2018-04-24 00:58:21 UTC

Appalachian ethnostate when?

2018-04-24 00:58:30 UTC

from Boone to the peak

2018-04-24 01:00:13 UTC

Appalachia is Trump country

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/438142086026493962/2016_Republican_Presidential_Nomination_by_County_-_Winner_Margin.png

2018-04-24 01:01:12 UTC

๐Ÿ˜ฉ

2018-04-24 01:04:15 UTC

Will Kanye West be the savior of the conservative movement?

2018-04-24 01:04:56 UTC

ahahahah

2018-04-24 01:05:20 UTC

will the kanye effect flip michigan to our side

2018-04-24 01:05:32 UTC

it's funny

2018-04-24 01:05:33 UTC

but no

2018-04-24 01:05:37 UTC

never

2018-04-24 01:05:52 UTC

our absolute ceiling with blacks is 20% of the vote

2018-04-24 01:05:54 UTC

I thought we, as conservatives, aren't supposed to care what celebrities think on politics

2018-04-24 01:06:07 UTC

I dunno, John James could win.

2018-04-24 01:06:18 UTC

Er

2018-04-24 01:06:33 UTC

It's an uphill battle, but quite possible.

2018-04-24 01:06:43 UTC

It'll be hard to enough to win Ohio

2018-04-24 01:07:01 UTC

Well, James is a really good candidate.

2018-04-24 01:07:19 UTC

Kid Rock would've won, though.

2018-04-24 01:07:24 UTC

Sad he dropped out.

2018-04-24 01:09:41 UTC

Reminder: Trump won NC because of Appalachia

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/438144468684767232/CzVO8teXUAA8tle.jpg

2018-04-24 01:10:19 UTC

He still would've won without it, but still
He can win other states with this region too

2018-04-24 01:11:22 UTC

Gillespie actually did worse in areas where Trump won big in 2016 (Appalachia)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/438144892410265600/800x-1.png

2018-04-24 01:22:06 UTC

Can Trump win Virginia in 2020?

2018-04-24 01:24:57 UTC

Depends if the Trump can win, or at the very least calm down the Soccer Moms in Alexandria

2018-04-24 01:25:35 UTC

Isn't John James within striking distance?

2018-04-24 01:25:49 UTC

I think it's very possible he can manage it

2018-04-24 01:26:12 UTC

I have seen NO POLLS to indicate as such
We'll have to wait and see

2018-04-24 01:50:55 UTC

Trump Job Approval:
Approve 38%
Disapprove 56%

American Research Group 4/17-20
https://t.co/ZOydKhy00e

2018-04-24 02:06:03 UTC

Trump Job Approval - Economy:
Approve 35%
Disapprove 58%

American Research Group 4/17-20
https://t.co/ZOydKhy00e

2018-04-24 02:09:36 UTC

The K a n y e effect

2018-04-24 02:10:13 UTC

Kanye could actually get good turn out

2018-04-24 02:22:10 UTC

who the fuck is the American Research Group

2018-04-24 02:24:31 UTC

Yeah, I'm skeptical about those numbers

2018-04-24 02:28:47 UTC

I hope he still decides to run in 2020

2018-04-24 03:22:55 UTC

NEW HAMPSHIRE
Trump Job Approval:
Approve 41%
Disapprove 52%

@UNHSurveyCenter 4/13-22
https://t.co/iocv0PuYQA

2018-04-24 04:21:33 UTC

@Walter Johnson he confirmed that he is

2018-04-24 04:22:02 UTC

recently? lol

2018-04-24 05:21:29 UTC

Economy: 35%-58%

2018-04-24 05:21:58 UTC

Who did hey poll? Fucking Nacy and Chuck?

2018-04-24 05:55:23 UTC

MARYLAND
Gov. Larry Hogan Job Approval:
Approve 69%
Disapprove 21%

Goucher Poll 4/14-19
https://t.co/SSEjFnZ1PZ

2018-04-24 05:55:24 UTC

MARYLAND
Trump Job Approval:
Approve 25%
Disapprove 70%

Goucher Poll 4/14-19
https://t.co/SSEjFnZ1PZ

2018-04-24 06:06:17 UTC

He's probably a RINO

2018-04-24 06:16:56 UTC

That's why MD likes him

2018-04-24 11:53:16 UTC

jesus, Hogan looks like Chris Christie locked in a battle with cancer

2018-04-24 12:13:08 UTC

He looked a lot better with hair.

2018-04-24 12:49:31 UTC

@๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ So is a Candidate kept the gains That Trump won in South West Virginia while keeping the gains that Gillepsie won in the Northern and Eastern part of the state would Virginia flip?

2018-04-24 12:50:18 UTC

@Den Yes

2018-04-24 12:51:38 UTC

I would like to see Virginia flip just because Liberals pretend like Virginia flipping is as equal as the Rust Belt flipping, If it would turn out to still be a Swing State it would be very demoralizing to them

2018-04-24 13:12:07 UTC

@Deleted User Hogan's actually had cancer twice

2018-04-24 13:12:27 UTC

I think that's part of why the popularity is so high

2018-04-24 13:14:04 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/438326765992148992/image.png

2018-04-24 13:14:06 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/438326772178616320/image.png

2018-04-24 13:14:33 UTC

That menu isnโ€™t me, itโ€™s just that poorly cropped.

2018-04-24 13:16:37 UTC

Guys, Iโ€™m worried about Az 08

2018-04-24 13:17:31 UTC

Iโ€™ve been browsing twitter and pretty much all of them are supporting Tiperini and they have thousands of likes.

2018-04-24 13:27:06 UTC

If Trump campaigned in Virginia, Gillespie would've won.

2018-04-24 13:28:53 UTC

Itโ€™s part of their tactics

2018-04-24 13:28:56 UTC

Using twitter

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