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That's a fact
@Deleted User That's pretty uncommon for most right wings is my point.
But still
Younger Democrat doo to.
Lots of older people do it
The problem is that the circumstances change a mile a minute.
At least democrats get things done when they are in office
Republicans can have a majority and not accomplish squat
Itโs the sad truth
That's our problem
Mostly because the Senate
the House has passed 305 Bills so far
They don't have to care about party purity because they have a solid foundation
But the Senate hasn't taken any of them.
Every Democratic Senator voted for Obamacare
And now obamacare is enver going away.
We don't have party unity
My idea is that we need to fight in the primaries for the most far-right candidates (but not too harshly) and ultimately endeavor to defend as many Reps/Governors as possible in November while going on an all-out offensive in the Senate to reach 62 votes.
A solid majority of people want it modified, not repealed anymore
When people vote for a Democrat, they know how they'll act
Great idea
We've got too many renegades, too many cucks
That's my stragety
Get some of our guys into office
Then you basically take over the party
That's why people on the left can vote straight down because their candidates do what they want
not even that.
They have no principles that they hold to their politicans.
Like it or not, they are reliable for what they get voted in for.
Democrats don't hold their politicans accountable ever
Perfect example is NJ's senator
This is what I'm saying, THEY DON'T NEED TO BECAUSE THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT
Not really.
They just don't care.
60 dem senators, every last one of them voted for Obamacare
Not all Dems wanted Obamacare.
Every dem senator voted against tax cuts
But they voted for it
And they weren't held accountable.
At least they know what they're voting for
What about reducing the filibuster rule.
A lot of democrats were against that
Herry Reid did it anyway and retired.
No democrat cares.
he just shit on 180 years of tradition.
They have no principles
The point being, democrats are a muh more solid group than Republicans
They elect their politicians to just vote partisan
John McCain's voting record looks nothing like Rand Paul's, but Joe Manchin's voting record is very similar to Elizabeth Warren's.
My point^
The point is, we have no unison.
They do
And you want to create less unison from what we already have.
Well not you
Button Mash does.
But "making them earn his vote back"
As the country gets irreversible damage dealt by a Democratic majority.
You can criticize that proposal all you want, but you cannot deny it is built specifically around trimming the hedges of the dissidents of the party for unison
At what cost?
Oh please
Whether it's effective or not, the one thing it promotes is unison.
What can Democrats do in two years
impeachment, OH
And 2020 census!
Republicans have been in power since 2010 and can't do anything
They get to redistrict
Which means they get to gerrymander
The executive department has the authority over the census
Trump doesn't need congress to do the census
Impeacment would not get approved by the Senate.
what
You guys
I'm talkign about the districts.
The party in power draws the districts.
After every census.
districts are drawn by state legislatures
State legislature takes care of that.
not Congress
Yeah
I'm taking out not voting for Republicans in Congress
But the blue wave still effects state legislatures if you stay home and don't vote!
The districts are decided by population and drawn by the states
Of course you fucking vote
No shit, vote
I'd go out and vote for City Council and State Legislature, and Governor
But Congress?
For the best people.
only the Senate
Sorry! Build the wall first!
So you're just gunna write in for the US representatives.
Other
ugh...
Ooga
Single issue voting...
It's not single issue
It's a pattern
Sorry! Build the wall first!
Literally single issue.
Also Immigration Reform
it's a big issue
These people are unreliable for the agenda Trump campaigned on.
Immigration is the biggest issue
If you give them more seats they can override the moderates, because it turns out running more right wing people in places like NJ and NY will have you lose seats.
ONLY issue that matters
In general.
Tax cuts are fine and all but immigration is what decides the future of our nation
ONLY ONE!
All issues matter, don't be naive.
Nope
Holy shit
Immigration will be the death of the country
Not ISIS,
Not Debt,
Less moderates and more of our guys
But Immigrants
Depends if we're talking about voting or running for office
You can't win /our/guys in moderate districts.
If it's voting, go abead and do that
If it's running, tackle everything
Paul nehlen was doing well until he turned into a sperg
like Maine, NJ and NY
Literally shot himself in the leg
You can win in NJ
Yeah that was a moronic decision
But it's gotta be in North NJ
New Jersey is full of cuck republicans
Yeah
No back bone
I thought it was.
There is
Anyways, I gave you guys a governor list
Use it
It's all immigration hardliners or I'm staying home
not doves
This is why we lose...
Build
That
Wall
They just put the scum bag in and keep voting for him
Democrats are imploding
No they aren't
I'll vote for a immigration hawk Democrat over a immigration dove Republican tbh
They're not
They have so much momentum for electinos
Democrat immigration hawk?
never heard of that.
Not one that will support your wall.
Contract, that's what we need
Or removing chain migration and the visa lottery.
we'll see
my point made lol
Trump's gotta propose that to blue dogs too
FLanon
Democrats don't want blue dogs anymore
Show their loyalties
You realize there's like no Blue dogs anymore
They're a dieing coalition
Who is conor lamb?
Joe Manchin is the only one I know.
We want into a shitshow over this
Like it or not, those seats they hold are invaluable.
Eh.
Conor Lamb is just more old school Democrat than actual Blue Dog.
If they disagree to the contract, depose them
If you're only argument to vote Republican is "but the Democrats",
then it's time for a new party
Oh yeah that worsk!
Progressive Party for TR
Yeahhh
That so works
Liberatarian Party
I think I know of a way of making that work, actually. A little differently than you may think though.
I'm talking 1830s style.
You've proven yourself to be extremely ignorant on these subjects Button mash. Republicans already tried making a new Party during the Progressive era and now with the Lulbertarian party
Both just cause the GOP to lose elections.
Infact the Bull Moose party cause the Republicans to lose the presidency.
You have to get to the top, then you implement new parties.
For example:
Tea Party was a good movment.
I've waited for my priorities to be implemented for years,
Beacuse it was built on replacing the current Republicans
my patience is running thin
Obviously you haven't
THEN RUN FAGGOT
because you not going to try everything to see them implemented.
You can't complain about your polices, and not go vote, what a total faggot.
"I'm not getting what I want so I'm going to pout"
I've voted in every election
Get out there and make it happen.
what good has that gave us
Voting isn't enough if you really care about those issues.
If you aren't happy, run
Voting takes you what?
1 hour?
So you've spent one hour every two years.
yeah you really care.
Fucking moron
Campaign if you want your policies implemented.
^
And stop being such a hypocritical child./
^
I can't win here
Look at this Party lol
This is my point
You can give me excuses all day.
The fact remains, you're not willing to do what it takes.
Say we all, as Republicans, make it into the party establishment, to the top, President, RNC chair, House Speaker, Senate Majority. Then, we approach everyone in Congress with a contract if they were to support a list of platforms. Then, you take everyone that signs, no matter what party, and you say "okay, let's organize a new political movement, and we're going to make a new party".
To make your agenda real.
So shut the fuck up.
I'm talking of a new paradigm, not some libertarian party, reform party, green party bullshit
but my agenda is TRUMP's agenda
supposedly
No one has made you live in california's 46th
Button aren't you like 35
I shouldn't have to run when I elected a person to deliver _my_ priorities
You moron
.....
yes you do.
What do you think this country was founded on
"Find someone else to complete what you want":
No this country was founded on self responsibility
If you wish to have your priorities implemented, make them happen yourself.
If you want it
You earn it damnit.
seriously.
What a fucking child.
Loo
he can run and help Trump get his agenda through but no
He just whines
Anyways, that's my idea of how inventing a new party would work
And you yell at me and get pissed at me for my views, you're the biggest hypocrite I've ever seen.
FLanon I like that.
Another COntract with the American Voter.
First a movement within an existing party, then the movement becomes its own party.
Exactly
Not "make a new party"
Incorporate a few dissidents from another party, make them take a stand of "are you with us or against us"
If none come, that shows volumes to the voter
It's easier to change a tire than build a new car.
That's what you have to do with this.
Maybe we go into the Rs, march to the top, then say "we are now forming the American Nationalist Party" or something of that nature
Contracts are the big part of it
American Nationalist Party...
oh boy that's going to give the Media a field day.
Worse than the Alt-Right
Alt-Right
I sincerely think that Trump should approach the blue dogs with that to make a stand
Hail Victory
Hail Our People
Hail Trump
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