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2018-07-29 11:47:54 UTC

Not as deep as ideas and values that make up our culture. Race is too shallow of an argument to make honestly. You can keep your racial opinion, it doesn't bother me because i have no intention to force you to stray from familiarity, which even I would prefer, but your loyalty should be deeper than the superficial color you obsess over.

2018-07-29 11:50:31 UTC

How bout that superficial colour again?

2018-07-29 11:50:55 UTC

Lol what is the argument there exactly?

2018-07-29 11:58:11 UTC

@Sheamus well the "truth" of your statement rests on the notion that race is only skin deep which is obviously false. The notion that the ideas, values and culture of a people are more important than the physical genetic existence of that people that embody and created said values ideas culture is just....fuck.

2018-07-29 12:05:33 UTC

@$P!KY\/!k!NG To put it as simply as I can put it would be to say that the corn flakes are more valuable than the continued ability to grow corn.

2018-07-29 12:08:15 UTC

@$P!KY\/!k!NG lol my truth rests on reality. If I hypothetically wanted to procreate with an actual animal, it's impossible to do naturally, and if forced genetically, the reproductive system is then disabled for the offspring. To me that is a clear sign of my creators disapproval. Same goes with inbreeding, penalties are incurred. Fact is, different races of human beings can reproduce naturally without being forced through genetic modifications to work, and even by natural procreation, there is no penalty to prohibit further procreation. Therefore as per the creators command to be fruitful and multiply, i see no problem here, and this is fact and reality. Your propaganda doesn't say much to prove much.

Again, i have no problem with your preference and selfish desire, because even myself have the very same selfish desire to have my children look like me, this is very understandable, and obviously you would use whatever biased information/propaganda to justify your selfish desire. However, you serve only your selfish desire, and not a will greater than your own selfish desire. So long as you don't push your propaganda as God's will, or try use Christian literature to justify your propaganda, i really don't care about your personal selfish desires.

2018-07-29 12:10:22 UTC

@Sheamus Deut 23:3 answer that.

2018-07-29 12:10:31 UTC

@Gonzo South Africa

2018-07-29 12:10:50 UTC

Eastern Cape

2018-07-29 12:16:36 UTC

@$P!KY\/!k!NG already have in previous argument, just because you don't accept the response, does not mean i have not answered it. Again, we have different values, different understanding, and our loyalties serve different rulers.

2018-07-29 12:18:00 UTC

@Sheamus You didn't have a scriptural response.

2018-07-29 12:19:19 UTC

I asked for two witnesses as scripture dictates. I gave you multiple witnesses throughout the scripture. You gave me some spiritual mongrel nonsense that doesn't exist in scripture and then gave me two verses by paul. Only one witness.

2018-07-29 12:19:42 UTC

One witness taken out of context I might add.

2018-07-29 12:20:51 UTC

Anyone interes in seeing the slaughter can scroll up to the top of the theology thread.

2018-07-29 12:21:47 UTC

@Gonzo I don't vote. I wait.

2018-07-29 12:23:17 UTC

@$P!KY\/!k!NG actually i did, but your reaction to it was a questionable witness, so you wrote it off.. I'm not going to rehearse this again, as I've said, i know where your loyalties lie, i know who you really serve, there is no other point to make here, you openly betrayed the greatest commandment proudly, and the second great commandment. So I'm content leaving this argument as resolved. You want to serve two different masters, i trust you understand the implication there of.

2018-07-29 12:26:48 UTC

@Gonzo Secession. But a nation state. It won't be had without conflict. And without the will to accept the inevitable conflict you will be stuck in a multiracial multicultural liberal democracy with a smaller landmass and a smaller budget. And that's if you can convince the (((DA))) to give you more self rule so that you can take power away from them. You're essentially just moving the shackle from the left foot to the right.

2018-07-29 12:28:10 UTC

@Gonzo War is already here. Look at the bodycount.

2018-07-29 12:28:49 UTC

War would be inevitable, would be easier to collectively defend a border, than individually defend our properties.

2018-07-29 12:31:09 UTC

@Sheamus That's the only weakness the cape secessionist movement has. It has the will and common sense to secede but no means to enforce the secession.

2018-07-29 12:31:34 UTC

You don't start a war, the war is started opposing you. No where are the boere asking to start a war, it's EFF and BLF who are the ones saying land must be taken by force. They are the ones that will start the war.

2018-07-29 12:34:22 UTC

@Gonzo It wouldn't be wise to explain here. But suffice to say that I and my associates have heard your exact plan before at a volkraad meeting and it is the most practical solution in terms of avoiding conflict. I'm not against it, but it is at best delaying the inevitable. This is by no means a new idea and has been considered years ago.

2018-07-29 12:35:58 UTC

@Gonzo I didn't say there wasn't a solution in place.

2018-07-29 12:37:12 UTC

Best plan i can figure is to resolve our issues that divide us. Get all the wealthy business owners to arrange for homes and work in the cape for all of us as a community, that would mean sharing wealth for a greater good. If there are homes (property) and work that side, the trek will begin, and people will have property and economical value to defend. Once there, get armed, I'm sure arms will be provided to us, we have loyalties internationally. Then defend our border until agreement and cease fire is announced and our secession is recognized legally and officially. Then do away with democracy, and return the rule of law. That's just off the top of my head cutting out the bullshit and getting it done.

2018-07-29 12:39:29 UTC

@Gonzo I hear you man. I hear you loud and clear. It's going to get really bad before it gets better.

2018-07-29 12:41:15 UTC

Lol it's not a solution, or a cure.. It's a simple band aid.

2018-07-29 12:41:44 UTC

@Gonzo I hear you and I won't stop you. Hell I'll even throw in my vote to help you. But in the long run...same effect.

2018-07-29 12:43:06 UTC

@Gonzo Check out front nasionaal. There are plenty of cape secessionist movements.

2018-07-29 12:43:19 UTC

Everyone is talking but i hear no actual plan.

2018-07-29 12:44:32 UTC

Ditsem! @Gonzo, you just advanced to level 9!

2018-07-29 12:46:41 UTC

It's just one idea, and a shady one at that. Shady ideas have a tendency to flop, because people aren't motivated by deception nearly as much as they are by the truth.

2018-07-29 12:46:43 UTC

@Gonzo Like I said, there are solutions in place but nothing that can be discussed here. And it concerns the boers and our end goal. It doesn't include other peoples.

2018-07-29 12:47:22 UTC

@Gonzo But like I said I will not stop you. I'll help you even.

2018-07-29 12:48:26 UTC

Agreed, we need to get together, we need a new trek, totally agree with that. People won't abandon their own property and income to go somewhere where they own no property and have no work though. Nothing to defend.

2018-07-29 12:48:58 UTC

@Gonzo I hear you. Loud and clear.

2018-07-29 13:07:04 UTC

The thing is will it be a long term solution? Considering resources.

2018-07-29 13:11:06 UTC

@Gonzo we're not doing nothing, we're just looking out for the boer's concerns which are long term and the same as it was before. But if the afrikaners want to secede to the cape, I will not stop you at all.

2018-07-29 13:12:40 UTC

The people concerned about saving their own skin are buggering off abroad. Its really only those who can't, and who have something of worth here to defend that remain. Unfortunately, most would not just pack up and leave to the cape without having anything there, they would rather stay put and take their chances defending their property and their work. This is how divided we are. So unless i have a reason other than saving my own skin to leave my property and work behind to go to the cape, I'm going to stay and take my own chances, and I'm not the only one that feels this way. So unless the wealthy over there can say there is property and work for me that side to defend which would justify me leaving behind what i have here in kzn, i have no valid reason to trek. As far as the DA goes, they are betraying me, and playing the same game the ANC is playing, to remain loyal to the majority voting for them, they would prefer i don't have any chance that side, just like the ANC that is attempting to flood the cape with more blacks with no values and oppose ideas of free market and property ownership. So I'm not convinced the DA has my best interest in mind when they actively support BEE and play the white privilege card. I'll go defend property and the right to rule of law in a heart beat. Not going to be take my chances with shady strategies that sound very risky. I don't trust anyone that sells out their values.

2018-07-29 13:18:55 UTC

@Gonzo do we have 10-20 years? Do you think the way things are going now are sustainable?

2018-07-29 13:19:16 UTC

There are always risks in change.

How do you garuntee new jobs for all the people who move to the province. Homes.
And Some are so depended on their current areas they live in.
Buisness owners in Johannesburg or Pretoria?

2018-07-29 13:20:10 UTC

And if the Cape hits another drought why would the other provinces suport the WC

2018-07-29 13:20:44 UTC

@Gonzo Bet those yes voters are shitting themselves now ey...

2018-07-29 13:23:51 UTC

What will it take for the province to become its own country so to say?

2018-07-29 13:25:31 UTC

The DA is playing the same game, and in a democracy they are subject to the demand of the people, the majority of the people that is. And if they don't give in the to demands of the people, there will be that whole told you so attitude floating around. So 1 term maybe, 5 years is probably going to be the most time you can buy. The majority are demanding for things NOW, so if the DA can't deliver what the ANC promise NOW, they won't have a second term, in fact i wouldn't be surprised if there is an attempt to get them out sooner. I just don't see it realistically happening. I get where you coming from, i get that the theory has some sense to it, but if there is one thing I've observed, it is that the ruling majority do not think or behave like us, they have a very different culture and value system, a different perception of reality, and it is them who hold the majority vote.

2018-07-29 13:29:11 UTC

There might be a slight possibility that the ANC will prevent this project from happening

2018-07-29 13:29:11 UTC

Ditsem! @GhostRanger, you just advanced to level 1!

2018-07-29 13:35:43 UTC

I see. I agree with you, the concept makes sense why it would work.

2018-07-29 13:36:50 UTC

Anyhoo peeps. It seems that the goals of the boervolk and those of the rest differ in the long term. All I can say is that there have been guards on the wall for many generations. Nobody listened in 1910. Nobody listened in 1992. You're not listening now. I wish you all the best of luck and may you and your families be protected. YHWH bless and keep you. Auf wiedersehen

2018-07-29 13:39:31 UTC

You know, if the DA was not playing identity politics and throwing around false accusations like white privilege, and opened up to BEE coming to an end, your idea would be worth embracing. Those factors created and maintain inequity, and the gap in the inequity only grows larger, and trust diminishes. I can't support those values and believe that somehow, this will work out in our favor, the minority. Good luck though, can hope you are right about it and maybe you convince others, but i maintain my values and loyalty to bringing back and maintaining equity faithfully, the only true way. Cheers.

2018-07-29 13:50:35 UTC

Theoretically this is the best bet at the moment.

2018-07-29 13:51:39 UTC

I dont think the society we live in will put the past behind anytime soon. Untill we start working together and see the benefits it will have

2018-07-29 13:55:28 UTC

@Gonzo i honestly don't see the point trusting the wolf in sheeps clothing. The devil is deceptive, and giving any credibility to the devil, to trust the devil is a death sentence. There are so many ways this can go wrong, if you are wrong. I put my faith in God instead and the rule of law. You won't get the rule of law through a democracy, the whole point of a democracy is to avoid the rule of law that is above us lowly men. I don't trust the DA, even if the leader claims to be Christian, i don't see a Christian supporting inequity in any shape or form, inequity that corrupts the heart clearly is described by Lucifers fall. I'm all for trekking, getting together with other believers that do away with the rule of men, faithfully. Only way to do that is to stop playing this game. Go there, and stand our ground, and demand our right to live under the rule of God, not man. Then I'm game for it, it's honest, it's straight forward, and anyone that opposes us will Clearly reveal their loyalties, and good and evil can be clearly distinguished, because only the evil will be the ones that deny us the right. I don't want to mess with the complexities and mental gymnastics of the liberal bullshitters. So I'm sorry, i have my values and my loyalties, which i will not sell short out of desperation. I would rather prepare and defend myself here at home staying loyal.

2018-07-29 13:56:06 UTC

shiver gona ban you all for spamming local-news :D

2018-07-29 13:58:07 UTC

I'm enjoying it, though.

2018-07-29 13:58:09 UTC

@cµrvy probably good point, I'm gonna end here lol thanks

2018-07-30 16:18:57 UTC

\**** the DA 🙂

2018-07-31 15:22:45 UTC

Ai

2018-07-31 17:45:27 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468390220736495616/473909069283852289/VID-20180731-WA0049.mp4

2018-08-01 06:43:28 UTC

This seems so nonews, just the same words again from a leader of one party of a representative government. Ramaphosa is a interventionist politician that needs votes. His ethical vision seems to be: preserve the ANC at all costs.

"However, it can be viewed as a decidedly political move to neutralise the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) whose members have been dominating parliamentary hearings on whether the Constitution should be amended."
https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/national/2018-07-31-breaking-news-anc-to-change-constitution-to-expropriate-land/

“Accordingly, the ANC will, through the parliamentary process, finalise a proposed amendment to the Constitution that outlines more clearly the conditions under which expropriation of land without compensation can be affected.”

Above it says "the ANC will", my question is is that sure? According to Ronaldo there is so much issues to still work through. The DA will fight this he said. What do you think?

2018-08-01 07:02:37 UTC

What do you think @HoppeanSnake_ZA ?

2018-08-01 07:17:47 UTC

@Daniel van Straaten We were discussing this last night @Guss and I disagreed as to its meaning in the greater scheme of things. Yes, the DA can try to fight it but section 25 of the constitution is under serious threat and there is no getting past that. Without property rights the economy is screwed. Will the DA fight it? Sure, they can try but the ANC has infiltrated every major institution in this country with fellow cadres who subscribe to this Transformation ideology. Parliament, is overwhelmingly in favor of it, the executive is clearly in favor of it and by association so is the ConCourt. The 4D chess argument that this is being done to appease the masses and that they wont actually amend the constitution is very narrow minded and illogical. Optimism is cowardice. The best we can hope for is that foreign capital will flee this country and that sanctions will be implemented ASAP.

2018-08-01 07:27:06 UTC

I think it's too late for them, we're getting the word out, market closed 13.19 currently 13.30, if it breaks through 13.88 today it means that the whole world is watching, if it doesn't that means that they will keep on making these kinds of announcements at 23h00 and make the money on the insider trades, squirrel is probably happy to keep doing that until the rate approaches 14 then he thinks he can consolidate power and magically fix things(he has no idea how far out of his depth he is)

2018-08-01 07:28:21 UTC

He has is building a dynasty, He's worth R6.5Bn but his brother in law is worth R450Bn

2018-08-01 08:43:28 UTC

Regarding the Rand, can it really go drastically low considering the central back is not nationalised yet?

2018-08-01 09:37:38 UTC

I've been surprised at its resilience

2018-08-01 10:42:36 UTC

Every time I see EFF and parliamentary together, my brain reads it at 'paramilitary'.

2018-08-01 10:42:36 UTC

Ditsem! @Bird_Goes_Beep, you just advanced to level 2!

2018-08-01 10:45:56 UTC

@Bird_Goes_Beep lol I'm not the only one then 😆

2018-08-01 13:09:45 UTC

not under fire....yet

2018-08-01 18:06:40 UTC

he didn't handle that arm too finely

2018-08-01 20:32:44 UTC

@Daniel van Straaten so what does this exactly mean?

2018-08-01 20:33:36 UTC

Just another day in africa, we're praising the electricity company for keeping the lights on (sort of)

2018-08-01 20:37:21 UTC

So when they take the land, what the hell do you guys do? Fight back and preserve their land?

2018-08-01 22:20:58 UTC

IMO: If we do not establish some form of self-determination we're done for.

We're leaderless, vastly outnumbered, scattered across the country, divided into our own little groups and there's not much love from the outside. We can only reason and debate. We will probably just give them what they want, just like we gave them the country to rule. Some might try to resist and so land will be taken by force. If by some miracle it escalates into a larger scale conflict the majority of those who haven't left yet and keep resisting will be slaughtered. It will be up to the defeated tiny resistance to somehow regroup and fight back. It will take a lot more than a prayer and a cannon this time.

Or maybe I'm just talking a bunch of _kak_ and one day we'll smoke something that make us all reason within the same frame, decide to respect one another's cultures and acknowledge our collective history and live hapily ever after in a multiculti society.

2018-08-01 22:43:20 UTC

The former part of your comment is closer to reality than the latter part honestly. @cµrvy

2018-08-01 22:49:37 UTC

We need to regroup, reestablish ourselves like our forefathers have, bring back the rule of law and restore faith in God. Will be easier to do that and defend our new borders than remaining divided and trying to defend our individual properties. Let them have the rest of the country and fail under their communist rule, as they die off they will need to trade for resources, and we can negotiate to expand and reclaim territory. Won't be without any conflict though, but it's certainly better than playing along with their delusion. You are right though, we lack the leadership to lead us in that direction for now.

2018-08-02 07:36:15 UTC

!invite

2018-08-02 07:36:15 UTC
2018-08-02 08:55:10 UTC

Hulle moet maar kom probeer! Ons wag al lank en het alles in plek hier...

2018-08-02 10:11:09 UTC

Hemel maar my kommentaar word gesensor op Maroela Media!

2018-08-02 10:38:05 UTC

lol ja self.

2018-08-02 10:38:11 UTC

moet baie mooi PC wees daar.

2018-08-02 11:30:33 UTC

<:damn:468419675978465310>

2018-08-02 11:31:55 UTC

He didn't give it, he took it away lol.. More distractions, more attention

2018-08-02 11:43:31 UTC

"Expropriate unused land etc... for starters"
"...you can call it land affirmative action..."
"the only hope of South Africa is the ANC."

https://youtu.be/hJ70cF_UNE8

2018-08-02 11:44:37 UTC

If that is starters, what will the main course be? Taking all white owned property with killing them for dessert?

2018-08-02 13:03:01 UTC

ANC posts dumb sh*t on Twitter

2018-08-02 13:03:09 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468390220736495616/474562803374620674/Capture.PNG

2018-08-02 13:03:43 UTC

Link to archive: https://t.co/7VgQXF1LAP

2018-08-02 13:17:15 UTC

I'm shocked today! I never thought I could still be shocked, but wow. At Huis Davidtsz a hostage situation is either still taking place or took place (not too sure since MSM is silent) and the only reporting news I could find is in Afrikaans and the police are calling it a STRIKE! "The workers are keeping people out of the old age home because they are unhappy that one worker got fired." No one may enter the premises to help the elderly, where some are bedridden and aren't able to do anything for themselves! This is a HOSTAGE SITUATION of the elderly. And no one is reporting on it because the elderly are mostly white!!! The police are calling it a STRIKE. The Afrikaans media is calling it UNREST. https://maroelamedia.co.za/nuus/sa-nuus/huis-davidtsz-bejaardes-le-hulpeloos-weens-onrus/#comments

2018-08-02 18:37:54 UTC

yip, and the ANC and EFF will just say, look, the white supremecy doesnt want you to get ahead... and again, it will be the white westerners halting progress of the blacks... yada yada yada, so can see anarchy will be inevitable really.

2018-08-02 18:39:23 UTC

THE MAKINGS OF AN ELECTRICITY CRISIS

The electricity crisis in South Africa certainly is no secret. Load shedding, maintenance outages, and lately, planned power cuts of bulk supply to defaulting municipalities mean no one’s, not even paying electricity consumers, are really certain about electricity supply nowadays...

http://www.politicsweb.co.za/opinion/eskom-the-making-of-an-electricity-crisis

2018-08-03 16:23:35 UTC

Mr. Snyman and his lovely family. Amazing how dealing with Malema can have negative consequences. Would be a shame to see them starve, oh well, you reap what you sow.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468390220736495616/474975632439246858/Adriaan_Snyman.png

2018-08-03 16:26:39 UTC

funny how i have more empathy for my enemy than traitors like snyman.

2018-08-03 16:32:24 UTC

Scum

2018-08-03 16:34:00 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468390220736495616/474978252994379796/38289216_1792890497495513_541063384196448256_n.png

2018-08-03 16:34:19 UTC

Soon we will be landing at Winnie Madikizela Mandela Airport in the Republic of Azania

2018-08-03 19:04:28 UTC

Sadly yes

2018-08-03 22:32:18 UTC

Yesterday's post:
I'm shocked today! I never thought I could still be shocked, but wow. At Huis Davidtsz a hostage situation is either still taking place or took place (not too sure since MSM is silent) and the only reporting news I could find is in Afrikaans and the police are calling it a STRIKE! "The workers are keeping people out of the old age home because they are unhappy that one worker got fired." No one may enter the premises to help the elderly, where some are bedridden and aren't able to do anything for themselves! This is a HOSTAGE SITUATION of the elderly. And no one is reporting on it because the elderly are mostly white!!! The police are calling it a STRIKE. The Afrikaans media is calling it UNREST. https://maroelamedia.co.za/nuus/sa-nuus/huis-davidtsz-bejaardes-le-hulpeloos-weens-onrus/#comments

2018-08-03 23:02:21 UTC

😡

2018-08-04 08:43:08 UTC

Azania😂😂😂😂 why though?

2018-08-04 08:44:40 UTC

Because they are retarded.

2018-08-04 12:53:50 UTC

where is the good news?

2018-08-04 13:09:18 UTC

@cµrvy the good news is we're getting information that they are building an army. It's always good to know what your enemy plans.

2018-08-04 20:04:20 UTC

arm, my audio is fucked!

2018-08-04 20:04:30 UTC

let me unfuck it

2018-08-05 06:18:16 UTC

Magnus Malan, two other National Party ministers 'were paedophiles'

https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/magnus-malan-two-other-national-party-ministers-were-paedophiles-20180805?

shared via @News24

2018-08-05 06:18:29 UTC

Shocking revelations

2018-08-05 06:21:46 UTC

If true, just confirms my suspicion that the Broederbond was infiltrated by Satanic elements (Freemasons most likely) which lead initially to the assassination of Dr Verwoerd, and later to the handing over of SA to the globalists.

2018-08-05 07:21:17 UTC

It's easy to blame dead men,so far it's just allegations so that they can sell a book. One man is still alive,if they wanted to prove their allegations they should have named him in the book and take it to court to prove it.

2018-08-05 07:38:13 UTC

Well they sold out the entire Afrikaner nation, so I would not be surprised if this is true. These kinds of people engage in these Satanic acts all around the world. The sad part is that the black movements will now use this to label all Afrikaners.

2018-08-05 08:33:38 UTC

iWhere is this ATM?

2018-08-06 09:46:36 UTC

Ditsem! @Franwilder, you just advanced to level 1!

2018-08-06 10:13:04 UTC

https://www.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb-opinion/dont-say-you-havent-been-warned/
```
Dr Frans Cronje from the Institute of Race Relations warns about a certain grouping within the ANC NEC that is prepared to endure a dramatic collapse of wealth in order to achieve its ideological objectives.
```

2018-08-06 19:06:42 UTC

could become a fuckhole of satanism

2018-08-06 19:06:59 UTC

deus vult

2018-08-06 19:07:19 UTC

When THE LORD speaks who can resist his voice?

2018-08-06 19:07:40 UTC

God gaan hulle donner

2018-08-06 19:08:57 UTC

i read that phony ANC tweet again now and you can just sniff out the fear and lies emanating from it

2018-08-06 19:11:40 UTC

phony?

2018-08-06 19:12:22 UTC

they did tweet it, right? and then later deleted it?

2018-08-06 19:19:19 UTC

ja but the essence of it

2018-08-06 19:19:32 UTC

not backed by divine authority

2018-08-06 19:21:59 UTC

oh, right.

2018-08-06 19:22:49 UTC

has there been any response from them about the tweet?

2018-08-06 19:24:03 UTC

would not know, most likely not

2018-08-07 09:50:53 UTC

@HoppeanSnake_ZA Watch this interview. Ernst roets interviewing clive derby lewis,there are 4 parts.

2018-08-07 10:33:08 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468390220736495616/476336989889888256/unknown.png

2018-08-07 10:33:42 UTC

No need to worry, "Broeder" Roelf says all will be okay 💩

2018-08-07 10:39:18 UTC

Yeah it's just those other people that don't want to be apart of the plan and oppose the methods, that's the only real problem hey... End goal is end goal, it's not what it is that matters, but how you go about achieving it that matters. Would be nice to know how, so that we can know if we are going to be problematic in achieving it or not... At least then we know where we stand

2018-08-07 10:39:32 UTC

But we already know that anyways lol

2018-08-07 10:46:19 UTC

My suspicion is that the Afrikanerbond (and Freemasons) are behind the destruction of this country. The handover of SA and the current continual destruction of the country bit by bit is all part of a very carefully constructed plan. I'm just not sure what the end goal is here, but there's too many red flags here. The Afrikanerbond seems to pop up more often lately, and they really should not even be relevant anymore after the demise of the NP. They are still somehow in control of everything in this country. They just look different now

2018-08-07 10:51:08 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468390220736495616/476341519444475904/afrikanerbond_weessterk.jpg

2018-08-07 10:51:38 UTC

With a little editing, it is crystal clear what this organisation is

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468390220736495616/476341646838202368/afrikanerbond_weessterk_2.jpg

2018-08-07 10:52:06 UTC

And here is their MAIN PUPPET

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468390220736495616/476341764027056130/afrikanerbond_cyril.jpg

2018-08-07 10:52:48 UTC

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) wat dink jy van die storie

2018-08-07 10:53:29 UTC

@TruthCanary Ek het gekyk ja, hy het lip service gegee.

2018-08-07 10:54:17 UTC

Die hele speech het vir my geklink asof hy en die bond kop in een mus is

2018-08-07 10:55:57 UTC

Ek stem saam met jou Truth.

Kyk hier na Afrikanerbond se aansoekvorm toto lidmaatskap.

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2018-08-07 11:01:05 UTC

Yeah no doubt about that, anyone that claims to know what's best for us are the ones wanting to take our freedom into their own hands... The end goal is pretty the highest one can achieve, to become God, and get the people to serve your will... It's done really by exploiting our animal like carnal nature, hence politics is at the core of it, you need politics to justify the sins... This is why I'll keep saying playing politics made by man for man, is the worst game you can play. People are scoundrels, and will try fck you over. Don't trust anyone wanting to represent you, and if they speak on your behalf, put them in their place and tell them to stay out of your business... They start by taking your freedom by allowing them to get away with the good stuff. Everyone should be able to speak for themselves.

2018-08-07 16:03:17 UTC
2018-08-07 17:13:41 UTC

eh hidden behind a paywall...

2018-08-07 17:14:18 UTC

By The Editorial Board
Aug. 6, 2018 7:30 p.m. ET
South Africa needs another enlightened leader like Nelson Mandela, but it keeps electing imitations of Robert Mugabe. President Cyril Ramaphosa confirmed recently that his government plans to expropriate private property without compensation, following the examples of Zimbabwe and Venezuela.

Mr. Ramaphosa says he wants “land reform” to “unlock economic growth, by bringing more land in South Africa to full use, and enable the productive participation of millions more South Africans in the economy.” In his telling, South Africa’s ills are related to the proportion of whites and blacks tilling the soil, not the economic mismanagement of predecessor Jacob Zuma or the ruling African National Congress (ANC).

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Supporters of expropriation claim black South Africans own less than 2% of rural land, and less than 7% of urban land, thanks to apartheid-era policies. But the government’s 2017 land audit used questionable data and underestimated land returned to blacks since the ANC won power in 1994. The Institute of Race Relations estimates black South Africans control 30% to 50% of the country’s land.

2018-08-07 17:14:19 UTC

Mandela insisted that land reform is best achieved through a “willing buyer, willing seller” principle, as it is in other democracies with a strong rule of law. When polled, the vast majority of blacks prefer cash instead of titles. Many black South Africans have streamed into cities to find jobs and better schools for their children.

But the ANC’s Zuma-era economic follies left many of these migrants jobless, and sent crime rates rising. South Africa’s economy shrank 2.2% in the first quarter, as investors and capital fled. The opposition Democratic Alliance now governs Cape Town, Johannesburg and Pretoria. Mr. Ramaphosa is promising more government spending to regain public support, but snatching private property is about as destructive a policy as there is. The ANC was founded as a revolutionary party, and the tragedy is that it won’t let the revolution end.

2018-08-07 17:42:02 UTC

Lol right from the beginning opens up with the good intention to justify the expropriation, the road to hell is paved with such intentions. Problem is only people aware of the truth knows its a bullshit excuse, the lesser informed takes it at face value, and it goes to show that the ignorance is rife... We truly are entering a new dark age.

2018-08-07 19:47:49 UTC

south africa currently getting Eff'd in the Ay https://map.lookingglasscyber.com/

2018-08-07 19:50:24 UTC

what is this map @rob?

2018-08-07 20:09:57 UTC

I noticed this weird account started following me on twitter, the account for that company

2018-08-07 20:10:09 UTC

the map shows current virus trojan worm infections

2018-08-07 20:11:49 UTC

SA seems to be getting PWNED big time 35% of new infections globally are in SA right now on the live map mostly mobile infections MOBILE FAKEINST/SMSStealer

2018-08-07 20:13:37 UTC

I have no idea why or what but it looks like a huge number of people's cellphones are getting attacked

2018-08-07 20:14:25 UTC

</conspiracy_rob>

2018-08-07 20:15:24 UTC

Not really surprising to be honest.

2018-08-08 13:40:21 UTC

Thanks for the share, hou van die eerlikheid.

2018-08-08 16:29:38 UTC

Touching stuff thanks Daniel

2018-08-09 10:02:31 UTC

http://politicsweb.co.za/opinion/escaping-the-abyss best break down of South Africa I have seen by Frans Cronje

2018-08-10 10:02:03 UTC

what happened yesterday?

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2018-08-10 10:07:46 UTC

don't know, but it wants to break that 14 level.
https://www.tradingview.com/x/TMHZ7NP5/

2018-08-10 15:35:39 UTC

Not yet closed but it's pushing for it pretty good:
https://www.tradingview.com/x/DRapE3d4/

2018-08-10 18:01:50 UTC
2018-08-10 18:13:12 UTC

Only the cucks leave

2018-08-10 18:14:14 UTC

to me this is more about awareness than anything else.

2018-08-10 18:14:22 UTC

not going anywhere myself.

2018-08-10 18:14:46 UTC

We should advise some farmers to move down to cape.They can enter a new agri market and export also instead of just doing local which is too much of a volatile market. Smaller scale is also a better option IMO and the future of agricultural. I should do a report to check how much land is usable and what their options are

2018-08-10 18:15:50 UTC

@HoppeanSnake_ZA yup hence why I want people to move to WC rather than jumping ship ,not just farmers but all Afrikaners

2018-08-10 18:16:24 UTC

Why move to Hungary when Orania is closer? Our people are searching for a home in foreign lands when home is on the Orania river. Very<:IQ:468409414592757780>

2018-08-10 18:17:20 UTC

No EFF in Hungary for one.

2018-08-10 18:17:35 UTC

or ANC

2018-08-10 18:17:36 UTC

or BLF

2018-08-10 18:18:30 UTC

I can see why people want to leave. Sucks not feeling safe in your own country and being discriminated against.

2018-08-10 18:18:58 UTC

IF we could all agree to move somewhere and look out for one another ,then fine.. But the odds of that happening is probably 0.

2018-08-10 18:19:45 UTC

@HoppeanSnake_ZA Its because they feel like there is no other options here. They don't have people to talk to. And a lot of saffers encourage them to move overseas. They should talk to me first😉

2018-08-10 18:21:26 UTC

I have met quite a few people the last 2 years who moved from pta to WC. One of them are my clients. More and more PTA people move here nowadays

2018-08-10 18:21:35 UTC

No EFF in Orania either. Those low IQ retards need to traverse a desert to toi toi Orania. There is no discrimination against Whites in Orania. These Afrikaners are just too lazy to struggle and build another future in SA so they would rather farm for Hungarians. We are always strongest when we are together.

2018-08-10 18:22:31 UTC

I agree but we'd be the minority of the Afrikaners.

2018-08-10 18:22:41 UTC

or the white South Africans.

2018-08-10 18:23:33 UTC

WC is a prog hell hole and will degenerate further as the years pass. People are too scared/lazy to build Orania. We need to rekindle our pioneering spirit.

2018-08-10 18:25:10 UTC

Orania is not the place for all.The whole of western cape is tho.We have rich fertile farmlands and we have a port.

2018-08-10 18:26:07 UTC

@cµrvy if all Afrikaners move to cpt, white people will be the majority in this province

2018-08-10 18:26:12 UTC

But _they_ are being exported to WC by the bus loads.

2018-08-10 18:26:46 UTC

Jis dude but the weather sucks there, hey? ;)

2018-08-10 18:26:56 UTC

Lived there for 3 years, wind blew me back.

2018-08-10 18:27:45 UTC

They're already too much for the coloureds.

2018-08-10 18:29:02 UTC

Afrikaners are choosing the (((WC))) over the embers of an Afrikaner Volkstaat. This idea that life should be super comfy is typical boomer agitprop. Orania is demographically stable and will be for as long as King Boshoff is in charge. A hard life is a good life, if onlythe Afrikaner is willing to sacrifice a bit of the perks of multi-culti WC for a sustainable Volkstaat. #MakeAfrikanersBoomerFreeAgain

2018-08-10 18:30:28 UTC

Even Orania wants a port.. being by the coast isn't just about comfort really

2018-08-10 18:30:47 UTC

ya a port is essential.

2018-08-10 18:33:26 UTC

A port is essential for international trade and is only really needed when you have an economy that can export goods. You need to build the economic infrastructure of Orania before a port will be absolutely necessary.

2018-08-10 18:34:36 UTC

If we're land locked like that and the ANC goes totally of their rocker they can starve us out.

2018-08-10 18:34:59 UTC

off*

2018-08-10 18:35:39 UTC

Agreed with that, dont think it would hurt to have both orania and a coastal port state

2018-08-10 18:36:03 UTC

Starve us out how? Orania is already food secure.

2018-08-10 18:36:50 UTC

@HoppeanSnake_ZA I disagree. Orania is 'landlocked' and no port ,no fertile soil such and climate such as WC,the northern cape is arid and the infrastructure is not yet there. I have mentioned before why WC is the option

We will become a export province of all goods,we need international trade,then we keep the money within the province.

2018-08-10 18:39:36 UTC

The infrastructure of Orania is yet to be built because Afrikaners want a nice cushy life in multi-culti hellholes like the Cape.

2018-08-10 18:39:40 UTC

Orania only has 2000 people. We are 2.5milliom Afrikaners. That need jobs asap and housing asap. Its an easy move that cam be done now
All the small towns next to the N2/from Cpt to the the EC border will be white majority.

2018-08-10 18:40:37 UTC

sounds like rainbow nation 2.0

2018-08-10 18:40:47 UTC

Cape town is only the city. I'm talking about the whole of the WC province

2018-08-10 18:40:47 UTC

Ditsem! @Gonzo, you just advanced to level 12!

2018-08-10 18:42:49 UTC

Majority under the leadership of Jewish overlords in the WC. We should be working towards self determination, nobody said it would be easy but you know as well what I do that the only way the Afrikaner digs himself out of this mess is with hard work and determination.

2018-08-10 18:43:30 UTC

@cµrvy make a lot more sense than having small pockets of Afrikaners all over SA. This way we are all together, also...MUCH EASIER,to get self determinatiom them.

2018-08-10 18:43:46 UTC

Hard work is not a problem I don't think. But self-sustainability is about more than food.

2018-08-10 18:44:11 UTC

Agreed with that, Gonzo.

2018-08-10 18:44:54 UTC

Yeah i dont think everyone is going to meet the exact requirements of orania... but would still like a similar concept lol

2018-08-10 18:45:39 UTC

@cµrvy true, which is why we need to build our futures there. Boomers want all the perks of a Volkstaat with none of the hard work. We have to start somewhere.

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