and law

terms like slave and servant were mixed

I'd call the police on you

😂

we're not barbarians from 2000 years ago

you cant have a slave in the US everyday

hold on

some would call slaves servants

are you saying slavery is okay

some servants were slaves

a paided servent is differnt from a slave

no im not saying its okay

servent is a position

slave is a peice of property

Actually slavery is still legal in the US prison system *stay* *woke*

shut it nerd

then whats up with "what bothers you about buying slaves?"

Look I heard it in a rap song and I need to bring it up everytime @DrPeper

its aquestion meant to gather more understanding

wtf

ahhahaha

hhahahaa

its pretty obvious why would anyone be against buying slaves

its wrong

yeah more understnding of how big your pocket book can get by profiting off the forced imprisionment of others 😂

i go into jails to minister not to mistreat

you go to jail for having slaves

this is second impressive mental gymnastics ive seen after derek

i share the word of God with inmates who want to know about Jesus

cool

Ironically Christmas Everyday is being the devil's advocate in this situation

thats for that off topic info you already shared

thanks

someone said i mistreat the inmates or something

?

i was redefining my position

we are talking about slaves

you know, the topic of the coversation

slaves seems to be the ongoing theme

it is an example we used

of how the bible can be used to support two contradictory sides

its pretty concerning how your reply to "has a verse telling ppl to buy slaves" was "whats bothers u about buying slaves"

if you use eisogesis without exegesis, yes, you can gather a false idea

so people didnt use the bible to support both sides

my bad, i guess ill just go inform all the history books about slavery in the US to change things

bro, the rabbit hole is pretty deep

sounds the alars =]

alarms

so, you dont see a problem with the bible being used for both sides?

What's esiogesis and exegesis?

your meaning vs intended meaning

eisogesis is like bouncing ideas off verses to gather meaning, exegesis is understanding scripture as it is written and the culture it was written to, and the original meaning

both are important

Both sound flawed

if it can used to justify any position then what makes you think you interpretation of the bible is correct

i believe the way i understand the bible fits exegetically

i will tell you how i feel about things like the authors intended meaning and trying to study that and sticking to it. It doesnt really matter what the author meant to say. All that matters is what people get out of it. If the author did a good enough job then people will get what the author intended. However, everyone is differnt they see things differnt. So if you get something differnt out of it. So what, its your personal views

again, thats a general statement not just aimed at the bible

i believe the bible, as its written, and as the holy spirit leads me

and let it lead you how you think it does, but you cant be surprised when someone differnt from you sees the bible saying much differnt things

As the holy spirit leads you seems like you allow your own baises to lead your reading

again, eisogesis should be in line with exegesis

but it isnt

it wont be

it was written 2000 years ago, people are differnt

people view the world differntly then people 2000 years ago did

you dont understand so it cant be, is that your arguement?

no, my arguement is that its a written text and people view things differently and sometimes in a contradictory way.

so its impossible to have a one size fits all aproach

which is what you are saying

^^^

i said before everyone has a very personal relationship with Jesus Christ

which would be a reason why a text cant fit everyone

so it doesnt have a particular intrepretation

cant fit and agree with everyone

[1 John 2:27]

yes what fluff said. There cant be one solid definit meaning

everyone gets differnt meanings from it

[1 peter 3:18]

does that have more than 1 meaning?

how can we know?

good answer

how can we know the "true" meaning of it if everyone is gonna have a different interpretattion

i bet i can easily come up with multiple meanings for that

You need the holy spirit living inside of you to teach you

lol

Jesus was going to be killed painfully for sins he committed, some times he commited the crimes for a just reason some times for an unjust. He wanted to show us how to get closer to god. He was going tokilled but was given a burst of energy and was able to escape punishment

i love you and i greatly appreciate your interest

there is a diffenrt interperation of that passage

[2 Corinthians 5:21]

God made a new sin in the world to replace the other ones so that we would be better for him

at least we can agree with bible having different interpretations

Right, Jesus paid the price for sin, so that by simply putting our faith in Jesus we can be reunited with the Father of spirits.

that isnt what i said

God sent Jesus to take our sin onto himself so that we would be better equipped to be with God, having the righteousness of Jesus Christ

i mean, yeah i know what its suppose to say

that isnt the point i am making though

i restated your statement though

you actually didnt

i am saying that Jesus is sin

"God made a new sin in the world to replace the other ones so that we would be better for him"

and that Jesus replaces the other sins

yes, Jesus took all the sin onto himself

this is just proving my point even more

because you dont understand, you think youre winning?

thats okay

...

i am purposly giving a differnt meaning to prove a point

can u be more direct with your words

that you can view the bible in differnt ways. And those differnt ways dont always fit together

dont try to lead me in thought please

[Romans 8:28]

so he purposfully made a book that can be interpeted multiple ways

often i find ppl arguing with me feeding me bread crumbs of ideas to follow

i mean no offense to you

yeah, people dont usally front load an arguement

[1 Corinthians 3:2]

i understand

That's how arguments work, you bulid a big idea up from small ones. If you drop the big idea first you lose an opportunity to learn

i want the meatiest parts

i love the bible

I could live without it myself

its a good thing ppl are always learning then

i hope you find your way

it has a few nice morals in it

but meh to most of it

I'm not incredibly fussed myself about religion but I know it gives people a lot of help. I am not anti religion as others are. I have my own reasons why I'm against it for myself

please try not to take offence to me

i will take defense with you

thanks for sticking up for me down by the river =]

?

(i love everyone in the world)

gay

awwww

what a cute thing to say

i know

we love u too

=]

Yeah no hard feelings about any of this, if a debate isn't fun it isn't worth it

^

I learnt a fair bit just reading

as an young hip edgy aithiest nihilist i hate everyone

fuck you too peper

:>

Pepper more like pooper

theres always something to learn, i learned more too =]

did you know the battleship that brought the ottoman empire into ww1 was turned into razor blades

something shredded it?

nope

scrapped

=[

Don't you love being an ***aithiest***

that was a good boat...i never even had the chance to meet it

SHUT IT NERD

eh

c:

it was ok

not amazing

So does it mean you worship the AI

Since ai theist

shut

up

aircraft carriers are modified cruiser class ships

did u know that?

well

some where

i know the 1st Lexington was

ya, they prob just build ac from the start anymore

and there were 2 jap ones

the only reason they were t first heavy crusiers was because of the Wshington Naval Limitation Treaty

i assumed it was bc of limited funding

nope

it was to limit size of navies to help avery war

Britian US and Japan signed

its been lovely talking with everyone, i need some food and a nap

gnite every1 =]

no

no nsp

or naps

lol ok

but i need food

2 cups of coffee with no food

nice

NICE

im an ai-theist too

I will whip you

:3

mucho mejor =]

food makes me happy

Same

Thanks for that debate a few minutes ago, you did really good =]

I was impressed

It was a good discussion, thanks :D

are u in the usa?

Nein

that might be part of why i enjoyed you lmao, too many americans get belligerant in debates

Lol

Peper is murican though

being american doesnt make someone tough to reason with, but a lot of americans seem closed minded

I see

can i share something with you?

Where are you from Christmas?

@Christmas EveryDay sure

im in the usa =]

i will message you bc i dont want it to be a distraction for others

Alrighty

Americans arent close minded, just people dont understand that america is always right @Christmas EveryDay

Lol true

@Christmas EveryDay where I'm from in America I would say Americans are close minded :3

Moo

Is being gay a sin? or like, against what you believe?

random question sorry

Its not the natural way to live

Its backwards

well would you condem people to death or something?

No of course not

Im not the judge. I just have my own opinion

Awesome haha. That question helps me understand someone quickly

You're better than 99% of others I've asked

Ppl say they should die?

eeyup..

people say many people should die

I never heard anyone say that being serious

gays, people of non-religion, etc

Wow..

It's,,, very eerie

it's not something I would want to dwell on heh

gays are as much as a sin as protected sex sooooo

Oh? Is protected sex a sin? I honestly don't know

well if its not for reproduction its a sin

Ahh okay

but those lines where wrote by sexless, lonely, shamefull old men so tbh who knows

hahaha

Mr.J being real

i mean they have making fun of bald people a stoneable offence

*those darn bald people... /s*

@Firefurry We are all sinners from the beginning. Wether it be homosexuality, a temper such I struggle with, addictions, gossip, slander, greed. We are all in the same boat. It is simply recognizing our need for a Savior and looking to HIM to save us. The law was given because it is good and it exposes us all to be the sinners that GOD says we are. To help us to see our need for a Savior. Trusting in our ability to obey it creates arrogant pharisees, the very ones that JESUS opposed. That is why there are so many religions in the world.

Gotta run! Bless you Firefurry!

Take care, and why thank you!

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