creation-vs-evolution
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God, a spirit hovering over an empty, watery void, creates the world by speaking into the darkness and calling into being light(big bang), sky, land, vegetation, and living creatures(evolution takes place here) over the course of six days(6 million/billion? years) to pronounce his works โgoodโ (1:4). On the sixth day, God declares his intention to make a being in his โown image,โ and he creates humankind (humans evolve separating us from the animals). He fashions a man out of dust(amino acids) and forms a woman out of the manโs rib. God places the two people, Adam and Eve, in the idyllic garden of Eden, encouraging them to procreate and to enjoy the created world fully, and forbidding them to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
read whats in () to understand my connections
I just think with so much more similarity's they could both be the same
and we've been arguing for no reason
just my thoughts on the matter
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@Pinnaplia has a point (I didnt read up before saying what I said)
I have heard people talking about that before and it is quite interesting and makes more sense in my opinion
Now I am not a christian or super religious but I still find it interesting
what came first -> evolution theory or the bible?
bible just being first testament
genesis
and to have such similaritys
with evolution
its something to think about
It is pretty interesting
And a very different way on view on Christianity
perhaps one day the world will know
I donโt believe in any god so I so donโt think we will ever know
Only i death we will know I guess??
@Treeling and @Pinnaplia the only problem that I can say definitively with your theories is that the context the word day ,or yom in Hebrew. The word in their language is as flexible as ours. The context states evening and morning ,and it states the number; which sorry for having to use other books for more proof; in Exodus 20:9 when the Ten Commandments are given it stated a number before the day. Jesus stated Himself โAt the beginning of creation, God made them male and female.โ
โญโญMarkโฌ โญ10:6โฌ โญCEBโฌโฌ, which makes no sense if there was billions of years between the beginning and man. This was Jesus reference to Genesis 1:27. All this to say that the day in the Creation account of the Bible is a literal 24 hour day. Now I believe in God and the Bible, but to say that your theories are correct is inaccurate. The Creation account is not proving evolution.
**Exodus 20:9 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
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<9> Six days you shall labor and do all your work. ```
**Genesis 1:27 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
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<27> So God created humankind in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. ```
@Treeling @Pinnaplia thereโs more proof
@Depression2405 Well, considering that then the only way to combine the two is to acknowledge the possibility of mistranslation or mistakes in the Bible, otherwise this is too far out of my experience and religious knowledge to attempt to prove, disprove, or even comment. But I do have to say good job on the research.
Thank you
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Love this civil debate
Ya me too
god isnt real
Evolution ooga booga
the earth is crap
THE EARTH IS FLAT
https://youtu.be/xEcTNAdzPik ;)winks
god doesnt exist ๐ค
Anunaki are the Lord's favorite
all knowledge comes from the same Source
Egyptians and Summerians had science.religion and medicine and astrology connected together
we pull em apart, thats why we cannot understand them
Science says relies on "Big Boom" theory in order to confirm evolution and life
the funniest theory ive ever heard is
"An asteroid hit the earth billions of years ago and that shock made bacterias and today they are evolved into animals"
almost everyday a planet gets hit by something, i dont see life
If asteroids and comets bring life then is hould have happened on the moon already
we have clear evidence that its bombed as hell XD
Scientists gettin pissed off when you quote the bible, but the prayers in the Bible with the prayers of Summerians are more or less the same, the sotyr is the same
Hinduism too
Similarities between Christianity and the Bible
and same phenomenas
only the scietists seems too BUSY to even open up a book and compare it to the mainstream knowledge, maybe it would fit.
We have factual evidence of planetary life sustainability, and why the moon can't hold life.
The moon doesn't have an atmosphere
But we also don't have evidence that their isn't life underneath the moons surface
We don't know if there is or isn't life on the moon
But
There are many solar systems in our milky way galaxy, and there are many galaxies in our cluster, and many clusters in our super cluster.
So not that unlikely there is life on 1 of the millions, if not billions of solar systems in the universe
We just have no way of knowing.
nah,
that's Sci-Fi
--the Earth (and its containments) are the "big show" ๐
----Welcome to 3rd grade (aka..Earth School//3rd dimension)...
sadly though, i dont think many will "pass" (this grade) this semester here though , it seems...
@Creating_Worlds well, let's say the PLANTS were the 1st sign of life and they made an atmosphere which is suitable for all the creatures here, but that doesn't mean others need the exact SAME atmosphere in order to live.
Well the moon isn't exactly a warm environment for plants
Plus you Need an atmosphere for life to grow
I Can understand, different atmospheres might make different life
That's a good theory I'm willing to belive
But unless the life you're talking about thrives in acual space, then no, life can't be sustained on the surface of the moon
I think you underestimate the power of Nature and how adaptable it can be, I can easily see Giant Insects living in space. :3
That does sound cool ngl
cockroaches are imune to radioactivity from the sun too...
when they become the only creatures they gonna become bigger
But they do need to breath
and eventually fly of the earth
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What?
He's giving an opinion
Ugh
I know a troll when I see it
@Happygrandad Just because monkeys today have certain aspects of humans they are all of a sudden un-evolved humans or whatever.
Dog breeds are different.
nah monkeys aren't unevolved humans
evolution is like a tree
You know what I mean.
yeah
Dog breeds are similar
Natural selection
taking the aspects of dogs they want and breeding them
basically what evolution is
Dog breeds are completely different, they didn't natural turn into all of these breeds.
the weaker ones die in evolution
Humans forced it onto them and started a chain.
nah but i mean how they evolve is the same
I see.
animals with weaker abilities die
so animals evolve to there surrounding
the best adapted survive
That's not really what evolution is.
That's adaption.
Animals more fit to their environment reproduce more, and will gradually change their species' gene pool to favour those genes that allow for greater survival/reproduction.
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lol idk i'm not an expert
I don't care if you live to be 100 years old. If you have 0 kids, a guy who dies at 30 and leaves 4 kids behind will have infinitely more impact on the future gene pool than you will.
It's really more like "reproduction of the fittest" than "survival of the fittest."
lol
not with humans tho cos most people can reproduce
wait nvm
But some people never bother.
Not that all humans want to have children.
idk how they don't want to
Most children are mistakes sadly enough.
there consciousness is overwriting there instict
it's weird
more like survival of the fittest depends on the environment
But now you know my problem with evolution.
What is it?
My problem with evolution?
Yeah
Animals evolving into different species.
That it cant happen?
It's more so how humans became to be is my problem with the concept of evolution, thus the whole "Animals evolving into different species".
Humans are smelly
Truly.
Humans are what primal apes turned into, they wanted to use their arms for grabbing higher things, they evolved to have their spines upright
But evolution, is basically working out over generations
Teaching the young how to work out their body
And helping the next generation along
And teaching the next generation how to help the generation after
Clearly this is the most ridiculous thing you'll ever hear.
i thought the working of the body was only to do with instinct o.o
So apes turned into liberals?
What was the benefit?
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This kind of seems apologetic for the Talmud but is this just bs?
Hi flat earthers
I wanna know more about flat earth
@Falleter#0161 look at pinned msgs in <#484516084846952451>
EVOLUTION HAPPENED
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You forgot to look at new evidence against the story of evolution
But keep believing your fraud priest darwin
God isnt real
god can exist as well as evolution
@Citizen Z dang so hostile.
@Diggs#1947 and look, it's another person who thought about this for more than 2 mins. Thx man, you help my faith in this species
I agree with Diggs
To bad evolution isnt real
So is darwins theory correct? Or are ppl still figuring out new things and do these new things support darwin?
They tell you right there darwins tree theory is wrong
For instance they know we didnt evolve from Neanderthals
They used to teach kids that modern human evolved from Neanderthals
Now they have evidence that humans used to breed with Neanderthals
Believing in darwins evolution is a religion. If you dont ask questions and continue to try and find new answers to questions that havent been answered then you are dismissing science and stuck in a dogma
Lol it isn't a religion dude. No worshipping going on there.
Darwinโs theory of evolution isnโt Proved but it isnโt false either that is why it is still a theory
There isnโt a way to prove it either but we do have evidence of Common descent
No you dont
No observeable proof of evolution
Evolution and dinosaurs didnt exist until Darwin released his bible called Darwinism
Its a religion
Wat
It isnโt a religion
It is a THEORY
It doesnโt mean it is real nor is it fake
Theory based on what?
Observational patterns, dumbass
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Observational patterns, he means fake drawings ppl made
And how much more real is the Bible?
Literally everything is a story
Depends on what you believe
Real stories
Some with modern day proof
Proof written in a book made by whom?
Made by many
The bible is said to of been written by many. Over time.
So as in a game of telephone the story could have been changed or tweaked along the way of production
The only problem is that ironically everything the Bible has said would happen would happened or is happening
Sounds like the Simpsons
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Have you ever looked into the bibles stories and modern day evidence of it?
@Citizen Z Naw
Tho I've heard of it
Then you dont know
@Citizen Z don't know what?
Look into it
Never denied it lol. Just saying the Simpsons did the same thing. It's called a ***joke***
Either that or I worship Homer I'll let you decide
we evolved from a common ancestor
And that ancestor is
What are we going to turn into?
My guess is snakes
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If we evolved from a common ancestor I guess we all related
u know it bro
Alabama 100
indeed
So what are we going to turn into?
K what are we turning into
You have so much knowledge of the past, surely you can predict what's going to happen.
So what are we turning into?
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<:lul:484994724118134784> ...
Imagine being this guy and legitimately asking "what will we turn into"
Human evolution will go at a snail's pace due to lack of actual natural selection and the presence of healthcare, which aids to the lack of natural selection
Humans will likely go extinct before any major changes can happen
Explain how to get an apple from a cranberry.. because I have a craving for some **crapple** !! ... \ (ฺืฒ) /
.. and evolution has plenty...!!
Whut
You don't get an apple from a cranberry
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Wow
Well you don't provide a good argument
Geez I'm reading the message history in here and Im losing 20 brain cells a second
Why is @Creating_Worlds the only person in here with some sense lol
No observable proof of the theory of evolution
@Citizen Z Giraffeโs laryngeal nerve?
@Citizen Z, evolution is defined as change in allele frequency (basically how often the genotype comes up) over time. If you believe that alleles exist and that for any reason the genotype frequencies (the amount of times the genotype comes up compared to a whole population) could change (eg due to random chance, natural selection, artificial selection, immigration to the area, death rates, birth rates, etc) you believe in the idea of evolution
Also there is very easily obserable data when you see how rapidly bacteria and viruses mutate and we can find rapid evolution in bacteria when you get the right experiment
Maybe back ti apes? Maybe we are turning into snakes?
Maybe we will turn back to an amoeba
Heck maybe we will devolve back to rock babies
not really anything; higher allele frequency of disadvantageous traits; higher allele frequency of a few advantageous traits like more immunity to heart disease; I don't really know other than the disadvantageous traits becoming slightly more common. only time will tell- except the time stone doctor strange has, that too
Point is we don't know what mutations will happen where
Actually I take all that back we will reach closer to a rate of Hardy Weinburg equillibrium
Because we have basically no natural selection action on us
It means our alleles will just kinda spread out through the global population
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@Citizen Z thats not how evolution works
I think you are evolving
Um no
Question is into what?
Evolution is the action of adapting
Then you evolving into a rat
No once again not how evolution works
Evolution is the gradual development of a trait due to surround variables
So you are turning into a rat snake
No
Evolution is actually better describe as development
We develop new traits through random mutations that can be beneficial or possibly harmful. The traits can stick and spread throughout the population or go away due to natural selection
The smallest unit that can evolve is a population so no Citizen
Also that makes no sense. We arent going to turn into rat snakes unless we start genetic engineering ourselves. Its statistically impossible even over a pretty large time frame
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