#creation-vs-evolution (Discord ID: 484515915069784085) in The Ice Wall, page 14


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2019-04-07 20:45:18 UTC

like a moth population slowly turning black when coal dust from nearby power plants coated the trees black

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one moth had a genetic mutation (he was black) that helped him survive amongst the now black trees

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he made more black moths who all survived better than the main population that were more beige

2019-04-07 20:46:29 UTC

Lol I learned this in middle school

2019-04-07 20:46:32 UTC

It's basic science.

2019-04-07 20:46:39 UTC

Denying it is like denying the moon landing

2019-04-07 20:46:40 UTC

wait

2019-04-07 20:46:41 UTC

oh no

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yeah

2019-04-07 20:46:44 UTC

people deny that too!?

2019-04-07 20:46:47 UTC

Hmmm

2019-04-07 20:46:52 UTC

it's like denying vaccinations

2019-04-07 20:46:54 UTC

wait

2019-04-07 20:46:54 UTC

oh god

2019-04-07 20:46:56 UTC

oh no

2019-04-07 20:49:25 UTC

smh yeah

2019-04-08 00:19:33 UTC

the moon is a projection made by the fbi

2019-04-08 00:44:59 UTC

wrong chat

2019-04-08 07:06:46 UTC

the sun is a projection made by fbi

2019-04-08 07:06:54 UTC

no venus is

2019-04-08 07:06:59 UTC

no its the stars we see

2019-04-08 07:11:25 UTC

T H E U N I V E V E R S E I S A C T U A L L Y A P R O J E C T I O N M A D E B Y T H E F B I

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2019-04-08 21:22:51 UTC

JESUS WAS WRONG

2019-04-08 21:28:57 UTC

How

2019-04-08 21:29:58 UTC
2019-04-09 04:30:49 UTC

Creation is a baseless theory

2019-04-09 04:31:04 UTC

It's the god of the gaps problem

2019-04-09 05:12:20 UTC

our holy pasta overlord created us and we grew to be tall from our small sizes and became superior men

2019-04-09 14:36:56 UTC

we really cant tell if we created by god or evolved. so yeah just wait a bunch of years till ur dead then find out the truth

2019-04-09 15:28:34 UTC

Anyone who doubts the theory of evolution and thus ignoring the overwhelming evidence supporting the theory is just so stupid

2019-04-09 17:17:06 UTC

God is gay

2019-04-09 20:00:02 UTC

!mute @ludde

2019-04-09 20:00:03 UTC

ludde#8229 (251718716893429760) is now muted for '**Unspecified.**', alright? <:THUMBSUP6:403560443345371137>

~~@ludde~~ ❌ smh at u...

2019-04-10 12:37:45 UTC

U guys are wild

2019-04-10 12:41:32 UTC

Pewdiepie created all

2019-04-10 13:32:27 UTC

As a Roman Catholic, you can't deny evolution

~~Evil-ution~~

Roman Catholic? dafuq is that, .. PAGANISM with "roman catholic stamp of approval" on it 😆 lmfaoff

--and 'i' was RAISED roman Catholic, .. because im Italian (italian american)

so.

.
~~Darwinian Evil-ution~~ \ ❌

2019-04-10 21:42:28 UTC

the fact that john paul 2 said that evolution is not a theory should be enough

2019-04-10 22:06:51 UTC

Are you guys muting everyone pro evolution?

2019-04-11 02:06:09 UTC

evolution is pretty much just proven fact at this point how is this still an argument

2019-04-11 02:07:13 UTC

@Deku Scrubster show me observable proof

2019-04-11 02:18:26 UTC

Yeah let’s see some proof @Deku Scrubster

2019-04-11 02:19:32 UTC

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils here's some stuff about some old human fossils

2019-04-11 02:19:35 UTC

So does this channel question evolution or something

2019-04-11 02:21:47 UTC

Well based on my personal belief evolution isn’t the only factor. Creation and evolution coincide. No, I don’t think we evolved from a single cell. I believe that from creation we evolved. If this makes no sense I’m sorry I’m not good at explaining things

2019-04-11 02:26:24 UTC

@Deku Scrubster what’s your opinion on this? 😜

2019-04-11 02:26:39 UTC

around the same as yours

2019-04-11 02:27:01 UTC

Would you like the further discuss?

2019-04-11 02:27:06 UTC

kinda unsure if we evolved from a single cell or just kinda like popped into existence or whatever then evolved from there

2019-04-11 02:27:19 UTC

but evolution's real

2019-04-11 02:27:47 UTC

Well if a baby can grow from a single cell, I’d say it’s possible

2019-04-11 02:28:02 UTC

We’re talking about millions of years tho

2019-04-11 02:28:08 UTC

Not 9 months

LMAO he posts aka "human fossils" 😆

-- Do you ALSO 'believe' all them "Dino bones" on display, at the local museum?? <:BigSmiles:556070613224259594> ? lmaoff

lol! Stop SnooZzzinggg..

2019-04-11 03:27:52 UTC

?

2019-04-11 03:28:38 UTC

oh god are you one of those people with the iq of a fudgesicle that thinks that the government buried fossils just to go back and pretend to unbury them

@Deku Scrubster - you believe anything dont u
wow, what a way to be

Dont you know KID (infant soul) theres an AGENDA going on? ..behind all that?

this world

2019-04-11 03:51:03 UTC

~~that's literally what you're doing but aight~~

smh at you sleepwalking..

2019-04-11 03:52:42 UTC

just agree to disagree i guess, i believe evolution is real and the earth is round, you believe we all made by god, and that earth is a dome. There's not gonna be any changing what either of us thinks so let's just not be asses about it i guess

I'd suggest..not just "coming onto apage" and starting from scratch down at the bottom, AS IF there's been nothing already discussed/shown/presented/proven//etccc

---am saying...why dont you SCROLL UP a wayssss, k 👌

2019-04-11 04:13:04 UTC

so...let's get this straight: If i ignore your "evidence", i'm just a dumb "sheep", but if you call me an idiot for believing in my evidence, i'm the dumb heretic.

"evidence"? lol, ..what you talking about, ..them Bones/fossils? you claim are real? <:BigSmiles:556070613224259594> lols...

2019-04-11 04:33:47 UTC

dude

2019-04-11 04:34:18 UTC

present your evidence, and i don't want "just scroll up". I want you to provide some evidence yourself, right here.

2019-04-11 04:34:30 UTC

instead of just "lol you actually believe that?"

why sholuld i (or we) be a broken record?

look around, m'kay

im in no mood right now to play "Text-tag" back and forth,, you just got here, ...i/we been doing this All-day already
and-then-some+

2019-04-11 04:36:16 UTC

oof

2019-04-11 04:37:07 UTC

i mean i don't want "Text-tag" either but you just keep going "lol you actually believe that" so ~~ i didn't know you actually had your own argument~~

@Deku Scrubster - well, ..yeah...its a SHAME actually! that you be-Lie-ve that

you just take anything you get spoonfed, huh

2019-04-11 04:41:34 UTC

But... so are you

--thats' why people like you...believe you're on a spinngin flying titled wobbling twirling eliptically-orbital oblate-pearoid waterball, etc and -- because you just believe and trust anything them sickass Sci-fi priests feed you -- no critial thinking, nor in-depth investigation or conduct ntohing on your own, as far as experimentation/tests/none of it -- etc, ..the list goes on and on, unfortunatley

2019-04-11 04:44:09 UTC

Well and people like you believe that the earth is only a few thousand years old despite a whole lot of evidence otherwise, that most of proven science is a hoax, and when someone says otherwise you just shove the Bible in their face and say it’s fact and theyre completely wrong because you said so

@Deku Scrubster -- thats about the 3rd time, or more, .that you assume i am religious 🤔 why is that

2019-04-11 04:47:34 UTC

sorry for assuming that, cause you’re arguing for creationism and have the tag and stuff I guess

2019-04-11 04:47:38 UTC

Sorry for assuming man

what makes you assume "Creation" has anything to do with any "religion" ?

-- No, i am not (mainstream religious//organized religion)

.
indeed i am a Creationist
-- indeed i know >> darwinianEvil-ution is bunk and bogus

2019-04-11 04:51:58 UTC

Ok then

2019-04-11 11:04:23 UTC

And I guess the world is only 3000 years old

2019-04-11 11:32:59 UTC

Who said that?

2019-04-11 11:33:23 UTC

K. Stop trolling

2019-04-11 11:33:35 UTC

Stop being <:butthurt:507983822244151306> ❄

2019-04-11 11:35:05 UTC

No one said the earth is 3000 years old

2019-04-11 11:35:25 UTC

So what

2019-04-11 11:35:45 UTC

No one said 6000

2019-04-11 11:36:05 UTC

You dont know how old the earth is

2019-04-11 11:36:13 UTC

Stop acting as if you do

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Cuz it makes you look dumb

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And biased

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And closed minded

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I dont know

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Dont have an estimate

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No one can know that

2019-04-11 11:37:32 UTC

Ffs.

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<:vSuccess:390202497827864597> Successfully banned @MakaroniX

2019-04-11 11:41:02 UTC

So is 4.5 billion too much?

2019-04-11 12:14:45 UTC

Yeah

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4.3 billion is just righr

2019-04-11 12:24:35 UTC

very good

2019-04-11 12:42:03 UTC

Where can I read the Talmud? I hear about it being satanic but I dont want to bring evil upon myself if thats what happens when one reads it

2019-04-11 13:27:27 UTC

God created evolution
There I destroyed both sides

2019-04-11 13:27:39 UTC

😎

2019-04-11 16:54:55 UTC

o shoot you got us

2019-04-11 16:56:47 UTC

isnt it 13 or so billion? i dont really remember but isnt that the generally accepted date

2019-04-11 16:56:51 UTC

or 13.5 or something

2019-04-11 16:57:16 UTC

i grew up not learning about any of this because my family is extremely christian so i honestly have no clue

2019-04-11 17:42:46 UTC

That's the universe

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13.8 billion

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😂

2019-04-16 01:17:33 UTC

🆑🅰🅱🅾🗿

2019-04-16 02:42:06 UTC

guys, god isn't real. Change my mind

2019-04-16 02:42:34 UTC

19th century German philosopher Karl Marx, the founder and primary theorist of Marxism, had an antithetical and complex attitude to religion,[1]viewing it primarily as "the soul of soulless conditions", the "opium of the people" that had been useful to the ruling classes since it gave the working classes false hope for millennia.

2019-04-16 02:42:40 UTC

Welp

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There you go

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God is complete lie

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It's fabricated

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Stop trolling

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RIP calender

2019-04-16 02:44:36 UTC

wait, so i have a question for you "god believers"

2019-04-16 02:44:54 UTC

do you think god created everything? or god started evolution?

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(both are wrong btw)

2019-04-16 02:45:24 UTC

God

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Does

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NOT

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Exist

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Think

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My guys

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Excuse me

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He doen't exist

2019-04-16 02:46:57 UTC

No

2019-04-16 03:31:19 UTC

God does man... Yall geeked

2019-04-16 05:44:40 UTC

G o d i s n o n - e x i s t a n t

2019-04-16 06:12:24 UTC

In your 3 pound brain

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Full of bs

2019-04-16 06:12:50 UTC

Congrats on being programmed into nothingness

2019-04-16 06:13:04 UTC

👏

2019-04-16 06:13:25 UTC

Explain to me how god was made

2019-04-16 06:19:12 UTC

I find it funny how Christians rely on some celestial being for almost anything, he hasn't given us any sort of sign what-so-ever that he actually exists. For all you know, the bible could be fake.

2019-04-16 08:23:12 UTC

There is no proof that there is no god, but there is no proof that there is a god

2019-04-16 10:51:55 UTC

that's not how mafia works

2019-04-16 10:52:00 UTC

Burden of proof is a thing

2019-04-17 17:58:44 UTC

I literally asked my religion teacher if he believes im god and he said no

2019-04-18 00:09:33 UTC

Yeah i did too. She said hes just a metaphor

keep on be-Lie-ving in your Evil-ution then, m'kay

2019-04-18 20:20:53 UTC

evolution happened

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True

~~darwinian evil-ution~~ \ ❌

2019-04-19 15:23:49 UTC

If evolution happened why isn’t it seen today in some form

2019-04-19 15:45:03 UTC

It is on small scales @Depression2405 .

2019-04-19 15:45:33 UTC

Its not

2019-04-19 15:46:04 UTC

You don't see species changing species

2019-04-19 15:52:54 UTC

Yes. Species do not change into other species

2019-04-19 15:57:25 UTC

"Researchers from Princeton University and Uppsala University in Sweden report that the newcomer belonging to one species mated with a member of another species resident on the island, giving rise to a new species that today consists of roughly 30 individuals." https://phys.org/news/2017-11-galapagos-species.html

2019-04-19 15:59:13 UTC

@Depression2405 There are many examples of animals evolving in different environments to be kept alive or left alone by predators

2019-04-19 16:00:02 UTC

We witness the jump from single-celled to multi-celled in under 11 months. Multiply that by about a billion and you get the picture.

2019-04-19 16:00:59 UTC

Oh wow, that's some cool stuff @Credibly Charted .

2019-04-19 16:01:27 UTC

I love hearing all the stories of how humans have accidentally caused adaptation.

2019-04-19 16:01:36 UTC

Haha, indeed

2019-04-19 16:02:27 UTC

It's a small example of an animal changing to keep it's survival but also a big step in the way of proving evolution/adaptation to environment in the animal kingdom

2019-04-19 16:03:16 UTC

I don't think anybody denies adaptation. Lots of creationists even accept species changes.

2019-04-19 16:03:26 UTC

Such as Ken Ham.

2019-04-19 16:04:16 UTC

It's new "kinds" (whatever that means) that they want to see directly.

2019-04-19 16:04:23 UTC

Is the thing about evolution like how humans evolved from apes and whatnot?

2019-04-19 16:04:36 UTC

Yeah

2019-04-19 16:05:08 UTC

Makes sense

2019-04-19 16:13:32 UTC

What made these species?

2019-04-19 16:21:46 UTC

It tells you in the articles.

2019-04-19 16:24:30 UTC

Environmental pressures trigger natural selection. The tuskless elephants had an advantage because poachers wouldn't want to hunt them. The algae went multicellular because paramecia were hunting them. It's a lot easier to survive the onslaught when you've got many cells than when you've got only one.

2019-04-19 17:45:12 UTC

What made the environmental pressures

2019-04-19 17:45:28 UTC

What designed the life

2019-04-19 18:01:09 UTC

@Credibly Charted it is called adapting

2019-04-19 18:12:42 UTC

@Ivan Pavlovich wouldn’t we be able to see the in between stages of evolution to be able to prove it

2019-04-19 18:29:07 UTC

@Depression2405 Eehhhhhhh.... It would support large-scale evolution, but it wouldn't prove it. I may be nitpicking here, but *all* adaptations fall under "evolution". It's just that when people hear "evolution", they think of large-scale changes. So, those changes you see do prove evolution because they *are* evolution, but you really can't extrapolate that to large-scale changes without more evidence.

2019-04-19 18:31:41 UTC

As for Citizen's questions, 1. The environmental pressures came from nature. Some are applied by humans, some by predators, and others are just consequences of local conditions. 2. Who says life was designed?

2019-04-19 19:32:19 UTC

@Citizen Z Nothing "made" them

2019-04-19 19:32:49 UTC

The things just adapted to things they were surrounded with

2019-04-19 22:12:57 UTC

Nothing?

2019-04-19 22:13:06 UTC

Whats nothing?

2019-04-19 22:33:48 UTC

So wait @Ivan Pavlovich even if there was small changes you would see something, for an example, between a man and an ape at some point in the present or something leading to it or even possibly in the past there would be proof of a thing between man and ape; but no one has ever found such proof. This is why Darwin himself said that his theory of evolution was false.

2019-04-20 02:30:58 UTC

@Depression2405 I know of this

2019-04-20 02:41:03 UTC

But do you believe it

2019-04-20 02:43:22 UTC

The evidence proves it so it isn't something to believe but either be ignorant of or acknowledge it @Depression2405

2019-04-20 04:29:09 UTC

Alright, @yeeet the Savior has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-04-20 04:29:42 UTC

cc

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CFC

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Cc

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C

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X

2019-04-20 07:32:00 UTC

@Citizen Z With saying nothing I was trying to say that it was not spesifically designed to be an eviromental pressure

2019-04-20 19:11:08 UTC

Creation

2019-04-20 19:24:43 UTC

@Depression2405 Let me start with the last thing you said. Darwin *never* recanted. That's a myth, and even creationists have started admitting it. From "creation.com": "It therefore appears that Darwin did not recant, and it is a pity that to this day the Lady Hope story occasionally appears in tracts published and given out by well-meaning people." https://creation.com/did-charles-darwin-recant

2019-04-20 19:29:59 UTC

As for "missing links", I'd advise you to do some more reading on your own, since I'm not knowledgeable on this subject, but I think that with the new addition of *H. Luzonensis* there are now at least 6 extinct species within the genus *Homo*. I might be forgetting some, but whatever.

2019-04-21 02:24:59 UTC

there was no creation, a person just popped into existence you fat tards

2019-04-21 04:05:39 UTC

🐒 👽 <:nasalies:485141702403686403>

2019-04-21 12:13:10 UTC

Wooooow

2019-04-21 12:13:16 UTC

What a nice argument man

2019-04-21 19:11:07 UTC

guys

2019-04-21 19:11:12 UTC

Jesus exists

2019-04-21 19:11:17 UTC

Allah exists

2019-04-21 19:11:24 UTC

big bang didn't happen

2019-04-21 19:11:25 UTC

`Evolution is merely an excuse for atheists to deny God`.. nothing more .. nothing less

2019-04-21 19:11:32 UTC

true

2019-04-21 19:11:43 UTC

Al Masih kam everyone

2019-04-21 19:12:16 UTC

btw it does say that the earth is flat in islam

2019-04-21 19:12:20 UTC

keep that inmind

2019-04-21 19:12:27 UTC

idk im not a muslim

2019-04-21 19:12:32 UTC

im arab christian

2019-04-21 19:12:39 UTC

does it say that?

2019-04-21 19:12:46 UTC

in the quran

2019-04-21 19:12:48 UTC

both in quran in bible infact

2019-04-21 19:12:54 UTC

nope

2019-04-21 19:13:16 UTC

bible says 4 corners but Allah means east west north south

2019-04-21 19:13:37 UTC

thats what he means he wants to say east west north south

2019-04-21 21:18:26 UTC

Alright, @lunarbean has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-04-21 21:18:34 UTC

Wtf

2019-04-21 21:18:38 UTC

Lmao okay

2019-04-21 21:18:53 UTC

Honestly, everyone says that in Incas time and stuff they would make up creation stories and stuff to try and make a way of their existence. So why does this not apply with the Bible? It was just people back then who wanted to create a creation story, just like the rest.

2019-04-22 02:32:24 UTC

Alright, @yeeet the Savior has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-04-22 02:32:39 UTC

C U M !!!!

2019-04-22 03:17:37 UTC
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yeeet the Savior#4157 (564498149427904536) is now muted for '**Unspecified.**', alright? <:THUMBSUP6:403560443345371137>

2019-04-22 05:33:48 UTC

Can creation and evolution not be the same thing? Just throwing out the idea that God used evolution to create man. And being the idiotic nonomnicient little mortals we are, we may have made a few mistakes in the Bible to suggest otherwise?

And this is coming from an Atheist.
Seriously it took me like 5 mins to come up with this why are people still fighting about it.

2019-04-22 05:35:44 UTC

Also to the flat earthers that keep trying to use the Bible as proof the earth is flat. Guys, stop, you're using a multi thousand year old book that has been translated a multitude of times as solid evidence. There is a million ways that could be jacked up, and EVERYONE believed in a flat Earth back then because EVERYONE was ignorant, not stupid, but ignorant.

2019-04-22 05:36:15 UTC

Thx Jacku, I don't feel alone anymore.

2019-04-22 05:40:09 UTC

Lol yeah, I feel like we'd know if it wasn't considering the massive agry lizars that used to run around, or if only 2000 years ago they all just suddenly died, there would probably still be corpses scattered around the planet (well only bones but you get it)

2019-04-22 12:48:14 UTC

we are monkeys.

2019-04-22 14:54:51 UTC

has anyone here seen the similarity's in creation and evolution?

2019-04-22 14:55:59 UTC

instead of seeing the obvious differences why cant both be true?

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