<:lul:484994724118134784> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_mePjkQW_c EVIL-ution..

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDT_MKUVgLI

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@Citizen Z no I wasn't there when those fossils were found but that doesn't mean its a forgery. If you want observable proof for evolution, I think you should study genetics (however I'm more interested in fossils) and even with fossils you can see how organisms transition to form different organisms.

Idk what your definition of observable is but if you expect to see a species evolving to form a new species in your lifetime you have not understood evolution

@Yoda k show me the evidence of apes turning into humans

Alright let's start with australopithecus Africanus

We know they are closely related to hominids because of the skull structure

Their remains have been found in these locations:

Alright, @Yoda has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

I can't effing send pics

http://www.efossils.org/species/australopithecus-africanus

So I'll send you links

Now the skeletons have been dated to roughly 2.9 to 2 million years ago

And I know you disagree with the dates but Im sure you can agree that they existed

Do you? @Citizen Z

Anyway, it was from this species that we get the first hominids

We know that because of the limb structure but I won't go into those details now

This species was the common ancestor of all hominids and I'll send a link to show them

https://australianmuseum.net.au/learn/science/human-evolution/homo-habilis/

The similarity is pretty obvious and this species is called homo habilis which did not coexist along the aforementioned australopithecus Africanus and we know this because of relative dating

And we also know they made stone tools because we have found stone tools and hand crafted materials in homo habilis sites and in their graves

Not yet homo sapiens, but they made stone tools... Pretty impressive right

Anyway, these guys had a "cousin", homo rudolfenses

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-rudolfensis

I don't expect you to read it so just look at the picture of the skull

Now homo rudolfensis was the ancestor of homo erectus

I'm sure you've heard of that

So like, they were the ones who were confirmed to walk upright because of their hip bone structure

Anyone with any knowledge in forensics can confirm that so there is little doubt that homo erectus walked upright

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-erectus

Again, you don't have to read it but if you saw the picture you can see how the skull is similar to the skull of homo rudolfenses and also how much more similar it is to a modern humans skull

*side note there are other hominids who lived at the same time but we're not interested in them right now because I'm talking about the origin of "humans"*

And then we have homo hiedelbergenesis

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-heidelbergensis

The similarity to a human skull is increasing and it is becoming less and less like an "ape"

This guy then evolved to form homo sapiens!!!! Which is us!!!!

Yaaay

Now if you want more "evidence" of the transformation read from the links I sent you and see how the tooth cavities and hip bones all suggest common ancestry

Aannnd most importantly we have genetics

We were able to extract nuclear DNA (yes nuclear DNA and not mitochondria DNA) from a sample of homo Neanderthal fossil (oh btw the common ancestor of homo sapiens and homo Neanderthal was homo hiedelbergenesis) and confirmed that we share their DNA suggesting, rather confirming that we interbred with them at some point

@Citizen Z *dab* if you actually read that and still have problems feel free to ask

Lol

Not verifiable

Show me the data

Museum have fake bones in them and claim to have the real fossils hidden away for protection

Plus they recreate most the fossils. They interpret

They make shit up

😂 😂

Alright, @Yoda has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

Ah "poop"

hahaha

bad word

STOP profanity now!

I LITERALLY sent him the images from the excavation site

But no he can't accept it! Cuz that would mean he's wrong

@Citizen Z side note, IF they were "real" and not made up would you change your mind about evolution?

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No because carbon dating isn't verifiable and neither is DNA

if you modify DNA in a species, and further stop modifying it. That species will later on grow back gradually

which indicates that there is something other than DNA that determines the organism

god is dead guys sorry we were at the hospital last night and he was on his last breath

he wanted me to tell you guys that being gay is not a sin and also that you can flick your pickle so long as you don't do it to anime

Nietsche is dead

the reason god is dead is that western civilisation killed God

as a karmatic consequence, the west is about to fall

god is fat

>>ban @Souls threats

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God is never dead... He is very alive and right in front of you... hopefully one day inside and part of you

i'm really sorry to disappoint you but those were god's last words to me

@red if you wish to troll and have nothing serious to say I can find a different place for you here

im sorry mr z

Dude, I never brought up Carbon dating. Even the paleontologists digging up these fossilsa didn't use carbon dating

And what do you mean DNA isn't verifiable?

We use DNA evidence for forensics!

Its used to solve crimes and is accepted by the court, Id say thats pretty "verifiable"

Look dude you're just shoving off every piece of evidence

sure you do.

😂

you say we like you found this stuff and dated it

Try to understand this:
Carbon dating is not used to date these fossils, different radioactive isotopes are used.

And the only thing funny here is how you avoid answering me or avoid to recute what i say

try to understand this:

you dont know shit. its all lies. evolutution is a crock of shit and i have proof your theory cant be true. ill post it tomorrow.

gnite

Gnite mate

And hopefully maybe tomorrow you might be able to refute the stuff I said too

Well

There are direct proofs of evolution

But okay

And yes, we know DNA is real

It's funny how I worked with DNA once

We multiplied the DNA with the PCR method

Which is also used in forensics to have more DNA material

Also, carbon dating IS a reliable way to determine the age of organic material

Because we KNOW that things that breathe have a constant C-14 in and outtake

And since we know that c-14 is falling apart because it is slightly radioactive and we know the rate it in which it is falling apart we can calculate the age of something

these numbskulls missed the Lloyd Pye video, and..everything else (scroll up, kiddies) <:lul:484994724118134784> _smh_ ..

The earth was made flat and has always been flat. It can’t just change shape magically

It can’t turn from flat to spherical

Why should it always have been flat? @wooflesthedog#1687

@✧Mike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)✧ ?

you cant just argue that creation is right by the complexity of the human body

thats not how proof works

you need physical data

that correlates to your argument

that's the point of evolution. macro molecules develop first. these are molecules that can replicate themselves with materials around them and no form of consciousness or sentience. then these eventually produce organelle or what we would now call organelle anyway (as organelle - except for the nucleus - were separate species iirc) now these organelle will interact with each other by pure chance and eventually these will form single celled organisms which can photosynthesise (and some of these cells start to form plants) which slowly created an atmosphere that could support animal life. now a lot of these macro molecules remain as they won't all end up as organelle. now some plants begin to evolve shrinking the vacuole and reducing the cell wall's thickness. this combined with the absorption of mitochondria, which was its own species, now this meant that it just needed a source of glucose to evolve away from having chloroplasts so eventually these random interactions will form a single cell organism which can consume part of a plant or other cells to access glucose and there is oxygen in the air so it can now evolve to remove chloroplasts as it no longer needs them. now these would be evolving in many areas around the earth (whether you think it's curved or round) so they can now begin evolving even further becoming multicell organisms which then begins to develop a food chain. this brought around dinosaurs which were eventually subject to mass extinction. then complex life begins to evolve again from those that survived and single celled organisms once again which eventually creates *homo sapiens* and all of the other species that we see today

there you go

preach Brother!

I can walk on water

anyone can walk on water with enough editing

Before you say i cant i have a friend who said i can and its in a book

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i believe in evolution cos god would have to be a right dickhed to make me

You must be correct on that

Maybe people that think like will just burn in hell

evolution is true

You are a 🐒 @Deleted User

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How so?

I'm actually a homosaphian

Yo dude

A monkey is actually no where near what we evolved from

However it shared some common ancestry

I have a common ancestor with a chimpanzee, which had ancestors with monkeys

get your facts right dude

Jeez bro

😂

You are related to rocks. <:giggle:485714802123997184>

How?

Are rocks made of cells?

@Citizen Z

Evolution is bullshit

https://tenor.com/wgj9.gif

no you are

soldz

no u

Buddha tell me to go to bed

@user he meant the big bang theory

Evolution is real. Get over it.

Give me a couple million years and I will

my pet frog charles was in my pocket for 1 hour and he turned into a raisin

crazy right???

Genesis 19:36

**Genesis 19:36 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<36> Thus both the daughters of Lot became pregnant by their father. ```

https://youtu.be/_zQXgJ-dXM4he is a synthetic chemist with 200 patents
Pretty much proves abiogensis at least on earth is utterly impossible
He has a few videosvery comprehensive. He goes through the process of actually making a complex molecule. To say it is difficult is the understatement of the year. invented the nanocar. a molecular car with actual rotating wheelsthe bottom line is no abiogeneses ....organic matter from inorganic matter, you can't even get to evolution. rock babies... impossible

Your belief is nothing created something? How does that work exactly?

Btw those are all fallacies and do not address the argument of debunking abiogenesis, which without, you cant even get to evolution

Try attacking the argument not the person.

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Rock babies? Boi its not from rocks how life came to be is a mystery but we do know that it came from micro organisms

And the human being too complex? Give it millions upon millions of years to be evolved and adapted

Yes. As i said, you believe in rock babies.

@Citizen Z is there any actual proof of god besides the human belief and imagination?

im agnostic.

Rock babies

Gnite

so you dont believe in mutations in DNA

okay you seem to be in a simulation

where you make the rules

How did abiogenesis start

Mammals came from reptiles or birds which came from amphibians which came from fish which came from micro-organisms through evolution

not birds

Yeah they came from synapsids which was a group of reptiles

mammals are synapsids and reptiles and birds are diapsids.

Yeah thank you

Some reptiles evolved into mammals then

i am christian so i do not bilieve this

god created us

@Zucchini @Bramble The Side Dictator how did life start

Gosh I didn't know that talking about synapsids would lead to weird questions @Citizen Z

I don't know and no one does

So you agree evolution is a joke

You have no evidence of it. Its like a weird religious belief

There is no solid evidence for either creation or evolution as it happend millions of years ago

How do you know it was millions of years ago?

There is evidence of creation. We wouldn't be here if we weren't created.

So where did god come from?

@Citizen Z

@Bramble The Side Dictator wtf is going on

Just trying to prove a point

of?

Evolution has happened

Mhm

Bramble The Side Dictator#1300 your 3 pound brain isn't smart enough

U have a 3 lbs brain too bud

And it also cant compehend whats outside the computer

Do you think i would believe in a creator that is easily explained

I dont know you. So mabey.

@Citizen Z what about a god that's actually just an alien

That wouldnt be a god now would it

the theory of relativity defies the laws of thermo dinamics

the law of thermo dynamics says order goes to dis order not dis order goes to order

if i write my name on separate cards and throw each letter out the window whats the likely hood it will spell my name

okay so now lets go into a semi jet 2 miles up? is it gonna be more likely to spell my name or less liekly

more time to chaos doesnt make order

it makes it wrose

Alright, @Sir Yamah has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

ni88er

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NIGGEEEEER

Frick

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How does people that believe in creation dispute the concrete evidence of evolution (fossils)

A watch proves watchmaker!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jEm02t2xFWc

@Sir Axl Floyd Of America what fossils?

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@Citizen Z I will defend the man in the picture and say that he would most likely say the difference is that he doesn’t actually believe what’s happening in the RPG like a Christian would believe in the bible.

I don't believe in god.

It's a man-made concept.

We were designed. End of story

Thank you

Is faping a sin

No

It’s not adulterous

*adultery

god isnt real lel

Just causw god made somthing, doesnt mean he cant change it

i have a question : If the Bible says the truth how can there be another theory?

DNA proves intelligent design. Life itself displays irreducible complexity. Incredibly precise minute specific mathematical tuning of the universe shows entire universe is a perfectly designed system.

Your DNA is a language.

Sacred geometry is behind everything

Golden ratio / fibonacci sequence etc

God is real

Hey guys

Why should I believe in creation

I'm on the fence tbh

All animals are beautiful creations of god? What about leaches and other parasites

Can’t say they were made by satan either because some parasites have feelings too so, bleh evolution proven (in one out of several ways)

@Green Knight that proves evolution actually

Thats why dna is perfect

Its because it has been changing to better suit the environment for billions of years

Random changes bad ones deleted good ones kept can only lead to good changes

Boom thats evolution

It’s that simple

(Also a simulation once ran mario where it would do random changes to how mario moves and when, and in the end it completed the level perfectly, proof that this works)

Country music is proof of creation prove me wrong

Yee to the haw
Haw to the yee

Can’t argue with that

xD

screw god

We have direct evidence of animal populations changing under stressors

Yes