creation-vs-evolution

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2018-09-27 14:54:24 UTC

okay then

2018-09-27 14:54:25 UTC

I was given two verses from Leviticus

2018-09-27 14:54:25 UTC

he didnt

2018-09-27 14:54:34 UTC

there we go, you were disproven

2018-09-27 14:54:40 UTC

yep

2018-09-27 14:54:44 UTC

_my_ argument with you is over

2018-09-27 14:55:09 UTC

would you mind telling me why nothing about bible is dumb

2018-09-27 14:56:32 UTC

because it's a perfect history book, as I told you before it is poorly translated, and from poor translations idiots like you find advantages in strawmanning their verses

2018-09-27 14:56:56 UTC

it's not poorly translated

2018-09-27 14:57:02 UTC

it's pretty crappy

2018-09-27 14:57:08 UTC

strawmanning their verses? "BIble supports slavery" is not a strawman

2018-09-27 14:57:10 UTC

it's written by men

2018-09-27 14:57:19 UTC

and ultimately has human flaws

2018-09-27 14:57:26 UTC

it's written by men

2018-09-27 14:57:27 UTC

and thus it can't claim to be divine revelation

2018-09-27 14:57:30 UTC

and translated by other men

2018-09-27 14:57:38 UTC

no shit halo

2018-09-27 14:57:38 UTC

because a divine revelation would supercede all flaws

2018-09-27 14:57:41 UTC

true as I said Christianity is dumb

2018-09-27 14:57:54 UTC

the Bible is a really good history book

2018-09-27 14:58:02 UTC

also st paul was pretty fucking homophobic and sexist

2018-09-27 14:58:03 UTC

again, "bible supports slavery" is not a strawman

2018-09-27 14:58:12 UTC

as is the old testament

2018-09-27 14:58:45 UTC

however that piece of work has managed to alter the course of history permanently

2018-09-27 14:58:47 UTC

plenty of things that are "immoral" in a 21st century society but also called dumb by idiots who have no fucking clue of the circumstances of the Biblical times

2018-09-27 14:58:53 UTC

id hardly say it's dumb per se

2018-09-27 14:59:26 UTC

@HaloNest you don't have to be _that_ rude to him, he's on your side

2018-09-27 14:59:33 UTC

he's also dumb

2018-09-27 14:59:38 UTC

cult

2018-09-27 14:59:39 UTC

I don't want him by my side

2018-09-27 14:59:46 UTC

um we're on the cult side here

2018-09-27 14:59:52 UTC

we "stick by each other"

2018-09-27 14:59:59 UTC

or else we call each other shills

2018-09-27 15:00:00 UTC

lmao

2018-09-27 15:02:06 UTC

rip

2018-09-27 15:02:34 UTC

@HaloNest Does the time it was based in make it not dumb?

2018-09-27 15:02:42 UTC

indeed

2018-09-27 15:02:43 UTC

granted slavery was fine then

2018-09-27 15:02:53 UTC

yes

2018-09-27 15:02:55 UTC

so was stoning people

2018-09-27 15:02:57 UTC

well that would make all literature of its time dumb

2018-09-27 15:03:03 UTC

but some literature makes sense

2018-09-27 15:03:12 UTC

as does certain parts of the bible indeed

2018-09-27 15:03:13 UTC

it's thanks to the Bible that slavery was ended in western civilizations

2018-09-27 15:03:30 UTC

no it was thanks to basic human morality that it was ended

2018-09-27 15:03:42 UTC

morality that changed overtime

2018-09-27 15:03:46 UTC

due to many factors

2018-09-27 15:03:50 UTC

not the bible

2018-09-27 15:03:57 UTC

yes the Bible

2018-09-27 15:04:00 UTC

the bible could very well have justified slavery too

2018-09-27 15:04:22 UTC

the modern church has an interpretation of the Bible

2018-09-27 15:04:29 UTC

that goes against slavery

2018-09-27 15:04:38 UTC

it does anyways

2018-09-27 15:04:49 UTC

not really

2018-09-27 15:04:55 UTC

look back 80 years

2018-09-27 15:04:56 UTC

again it's an interpretation

2018-09-27 15:05:07 UTC

yes of course

2018-09-27 15:05:07 UTC

if you go by its fundamental and literal sense

2018-09-27 15:05:16 UTC

you could find all sorts of justifications

2018-09-27 15:05:25 UTC

not really

2018-09-27 15:05:43 UTC

it's like reading the law codes of ancient hebrews from an history book

2018-09-27 15:05:47 UTC

yes really

2018-09-27 15:06:09 UTC

Bible is historically accurate?

2018-09-27 15:06:15 UTC

well if it's just law codes of ancient hebrew times, then it belongs in the annals of history

2018-09-27 15:06:29 UTC

the Bible is pretty historically accurate

2018-09-27 15:06:37 UTC

also correct

2018-09-27 15:06:40 UTC

it can hardly be justified as religious literature

2018-09-27 15:06:45 UTC

true indeed

2018-09-27 15:06:51 UTC

which is applicable in modern times

2018-09-27 15:07:21 UTC

true

2018-09-27 15:07:24 UTC

and it is

2018-09-27 15:07:30 UTC

im not sure about the "pretty historically accurate" bit though

2018-09-27 15:07:49 UTC

idk enough about history for that

2018-09-27 15:07:56 UTC

there are a bit of incomprehensions due to the poor tralsation

2018-09-27 15:08:02 UTC

yes there are some evidences backed by archaeology

2018-09-27 15:08:15 UTC

but it isn't majorly qualified to say be a historical source for example

2018-09-27 15:08:16 UTC

Genesis is poorly translated

2018-09-27 15:08:26 UTC

the word used for days in the creation doesn't mean day

2018-09-27 15:08:30 UTC

it can mean era aswell

2018-09-27 15:08:32 UTC

genesis

2018-09-27 15:08:53 UTC

isn't the genesis creation story borrowed from the babylonian creation myth

2018-09-27 15:09:02 UTC

the bible isnt historically accurate at all

2018-09-27 15:09:04 UTC

and from some other creation stories of that time?

2018-09-27 15:09:11 UTC

sure they are

2018-09-27 15:09:20 UTC

most stories of the Bible are taken by nearby cultures

2018-09-27 15:09:27 UTC

that's why I said "pretty accurate"

2018-09-27 15:09:27 UTC

yeah

2018-09-27 15:09:33 UTC

not completely

2018-09-27 15:09:37 UTC

id say it's hardly accurate tbh

2018-09-27 15:09:41 UTC

not even pretty

2018-09-27 15:09:42 UTC

you have to know what to take as a myth and what not to

2018-09-27 15:09:51 UTC

it isnt historically accurate at all

2018-09-27 15:10:11 UTC

advance some evidence maybe?

2018-09-27 15:10:13 UTC

but some loony christians blur the line between myth and fact

2018-09-27 15:10:20 UTC

^

2018-09-27 15:10:23 UTC

the Exodus, a few problems with it

2018-09-27 15:10:33 UTC

first, the egyptians didnt use slave labor

2018-09-27 15:10:34 UTC

other than the exodus?

2018-09-27 15:10:44 UTC

partially correct

2018-09-27 15:10:45 UTC

wait _what_?

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