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2019-05-02 13:39:56 UTC

would you rather?
Get an infectious disease or live with a chronic disease?

2019-05-02 14:36:35 UTC

Is this really a choice

2019-05-02 15:08:32 UTC

I choose option C
Die

2019-05-02 16:21:34 UTC

there are a lot of ways to die

2019-05-02 16:34:42 UTC

it's simple

2019-05-02 16:40:11 UTC

generally, I'd still prefer infectious disease. Depending on which of course

2019-05-02 18:46:24 UTC

Vaccines are good

2019-05-02 19:31:00 UTC

@Lancelot well if you choose infectious disease that would mean everyone around you including yourself would suffer. So you'd probably get shot before you have the chance to run around

2019-05-02 19:32:26 UTC

<@572799652219453460> Naw they give you Autism. I'd rather my kids and I die from measels than to somehow contract a genetic disease from nothing.

Because I'm "logical" and I do my "research"

2019-05-02 20:59:44 UTC

He's joking, ye

2019-05-03 01:37:40 UTC

<@572799652219453460> vaccine insert says it does cause autism and Sids . they are listed as a adverse effect that can happen from the vaccine

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552285797038948364/573684571158347776/dtap-autism-insert.png

2019-05-03 01:39:19 UTC

<@572799652219453460> what school?

2019-05-03 01:39:28 UTC

@Citizen Z ๐Ÿ‘‹

2019-05-03 01:39:35 UTC

sup bro

2019-05-03 01:39:47 UTC

Sup

2019-05-03 01:40:03 UTC

Not much

2019-05-03 01:40:47 UTC

just stopping by to check on the chat and saw they dont believe vaccines cause autism , so i had to set the record straight lol

2019-05-03 01:41:37 UTC

They think big pharma is trying to help them

2019-05-03 01:42:13 UTC

more bad news for them

2019-05-03 01:42:21 UTC

They think the pharmaceutical companies make profit by helping

2019-05-03 01:43:41 UTC

they should know if they curve you , you are no longer their customer and cant make more money off you so it would defeat their purpose of being in business

2019-05-03 01:44:18 UTC

they dont want to cure you just mask the symptoms and treat the symptoms not the root cause of the problem

2019-05-03 01:50:29 UTC

Though just the name HPV strikes fear into the hearts of many, for the most part, it is totally harmless.

2019-05-03 02:52:14 UTC

I don't think anyone claimed that pharmaceutical companies are actually helping anyone

2019-05-03 02:52:19 UTC

I certainly didn't

2019-05-03 02:52:57 UTC

They'd be working on cures and genetic immunity, not symptom treatment and temporary immunity

2019-05-03 02:53:42 UTC

It's all profit, sure. But when there are hundreds of millions of living examples of proof to the validity of vaccines, they at least do their job

2019-05-03 04:48:40 UTC

I wonder if Anti Vaxx's think about how doctors get their vaccines. If they secretly knew they were poison why would they take them? Hmm maybe this is to logical to think about. Guess I go 70mph in an elementary School zone and hope nobody dies. Because taking risks like that is perfectly logical and if you disagree then obviously you havent done your research.

2019-05-03 05:35:28 UTC

Careful, last I heard from an admin they prefer the term "immunohoaxers." unsure if that's just them or that's enforced

2019-05-03 05:35:55 UTC

But I would assume they would think doctor fake their vaccination records

2019-05-03 12:04:57 UTC

doctors buy them

2019-05-03 12:05:21 UTC

or get batches from governmental organizations who bought them

2019-05-03 12:06:46 UTC

<@572799652219453460> that pathogen is either weakened or dead. Or they use a weaker variant or any toxoids. Other ingredients used are adjuvants, preservatives and other substances

2019-05-03 12:07:16 UTC

some of the substances are of concern, especially for those who are sensitive to them. Take for instance polysorbate 80 or tween 80

2019-05-03 12:08:57 UTC

and speaking about vaccine injuries, whether it's a small percentage or a large one doesn't matter. The cases matter and should be confronted and prevented, not rationalized nor neglected as doctors often do

2019-05-03 12:53:50 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552285797038948364/573854735237644298/image0.png

2019-05-03 19:42:04 UTC

@Citizen Z not only does that text box not have who said it, but it also has crap Grammer. Im not taking that seriously.

2019-05-03 19:47:53 UTC

@Pinnaplia what's wrong with the grammar?

2019-05-03 19:49:50 UTC

Also, why do you not take that seriously?

2019-05-03 19:52:28 UTC

More people die from a cold than measles

2019-05-03 20:01:04 UTC

Fallacy.
You cant possibly know what every doctor thinks or does.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552285797038948364/573962251162091556/Screenshot_20190503-130002_Discord.jpg

2019-05-03 20:01:26 UTC

Willful ignorance.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552285797038948364/573962343315144704/Screenshot_20190503-130109_Discord.jpg

2019-05-03 20:49:52 UTC

Says the flat earther

2019-05-03 20:50:21 UTC

Also saying that is cute because you didn't give me an option to learn earlier

2019-05-03 21:10:56 UTC

vax your children now ligma is spreading

2019-05-03 22:11:46 UTC

I didnt give you an option to learn? What does that even mean?

2019-05-03 22:12:20 UTC

Says the globe earther

2019-05-03 22:14:34 UTC

The globe earther that thinks the CDC has bad grammar and doesn't take the CDC seriously.

2019-05-03 22:14:36 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚

2019-05-03 22:17:16 UTC

80,000 people died from the flu in 2017 2018 winter in the US

2019-05-03 22:17:31 UTC

How many died of measels?

2019-05-03 22:21:58 UTC

The Public Health Reports study also found that families of unvaccinated kids are more likely to be:
โ€ข Wealthier on average, with annual incomes more than four times the poverty level
โ€ข Non-Hispanic white
โ€ข Married couples in English-speaking households
โ€ข Educated, with college degrees, and
โ€ข Covered by private health insurance.

2019-05-03 22:34:22 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552285797038948364/574000832094273546/Screenshot_20190503-153402_Drive.jpg

2019-05-03 22:35:55 UTC

Only about 70% of children are vaccinated with 7 series

2019-05-03 22:44:28 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552285797038948364/574003373603553293/Screenshot_20190503-154420_Drive.jpg

2019-05-04 01:21:20 UTC

Interesting info there

2019-05-04 11:35:24 UTC

safety remains the main priority, over the fact that still no long term studies have been done. These studies need the following criteria for proper safety testing: latency for at least 10 years, the presence of an inert placebo group (saline as placebo, not aluminum) and the reproducibility by all parties including third parties.

Furthermore, there's much appeal to authority from the proponents, who keep pointing at certain studies, that only study one vaccine out of many. Epidemiologically it's a meaningless study due to it's healthy user bias. The other side has just a growing pile of studies, that point to mechanisms. They connect them to show how aluminum salts that don't dissolve in water, when administered via intramuscular injection (which happens at nearly all vaccinations), can cause autism. The most recent study came from 5 years ago, pointing that there may be a causal link between aluminum administered via vaccines and autism. The reason that their conclusion say that it may be so, is due to the absence of an inert placebo control group. In other words, if such a study is performed again, but with the presence of a placebo control group (double blind), it will either show the causal link or debunk that link. Mechanism on the other hand is already known. How do macrophages respond to aluminum particles that don't dissolve in water?

2019-05-04 13:01:39 UTC

autism has a life expectancy of 36 years

2019-05-04 13:02:20 UTC

whether you like it or not, it's in general about a neurodevelopmental disorder, in this, developmental delays fall under it's definition

2019-05-04 13:03:09 UTC

whether it's the inflammation of the brain or an oxygen deficiency, it can manifest as such

2019-05-04 13:04:56 UTC

vaccines dont cause autism

2019-05-04 13:07:29 UTC

have you read this? https://archive.fo/Xy55r

2019-05-04 13:09:09 UTC

im not bothered reding that

2019-05-04 13:09:15 UTC

explain what it ses

2019-05-04 13:09:37 UTC

the study has just made the question, just reading the conclusion is enough to know what the study says.

2019-05-04 13:10:03 UTC

it says that aluminum vaccine adjuvants (which don't dissolve in water) may have a causal link with autism

2019-05-04 13:10:51 UTC

where is the proof

2019-05-04 13:11:11 UTC

when it comes to proof, they say that further research is warranted

2019-05-04 13:11:42 UTC

for now, there's neither evidence that shows the aluminum has a causal link, nor evidence that debunks that link between aluminum and autism

2019-05-04 13:12:09 UTC

in fact, debunking without evidence is unscientific

2019-05-04 13:12:22 UTC

yes

2019-05-04 13:12:32 UTC

so it doesnt cause aautism

2019-05-04 13:13:49 UTC

that's only proven by the studies that have a healthy user bias present, which at the same time just tested one vaccine and didn't look for the other vaccines

2019-05-04 13:14:39 UTC

furthermore the scientists behind the study that "debunks" the link have stocks in pharmaceutical companies that manufacture vaccines, so what would you expect from these scientists?

2019-05-04 13:15:11 UTC

did you know that manufacturers can't be held accountable for vaccine injury?

2019-05-04 13:15:25 UTC

ooft

2019-05-04 13:15:52 UTC

where is proof that it actually causes autis?

2019-05-04 13:16:08 UTC

there you go again, burden of proof

2019-05-04 13:16:26 UTC

whats wrong with needing of proof

2019-05-04 13:16:39 UTC

the focus was on the functionality, lets move onto the mechanism

2019-05-04 13:16:57 UTC

the mechanism has enough to say, connecting the dots will come to that conclusion

2019-05-04 13:17:08 UTC

non of those can apply without proof

2019-05-04 13:17:33 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552285797038948364/574223091887243264/Autism-and-aluminum-adjuvants-in-vaccines.pdf

2019-05-04 13:17:36 UTC

here's the pile

2019-05-04 13:18:12 UTC

sheeple sent me a chart showing people with autism when vaccined and how many people with autism without being vaccined

2019-05-04 13:18:20 UTC

which was biased

2019-05-04 13:18:29 UTC

one of the statements is that the immune activation in the brain is causal factor for NDDs

2019-05-04 13:18:56 UTC

i have very low space

2019-05-04 13:18:59 UTC

cant download

2019-05-04 13:19:24 UTC

you need a PC

2019-05-04 13:19:32 UTC

im on a mac

2019-05-04 13:19:38 UTC

same thing

2019-05-04 13:19:52 UTC

how much ram at maximum?

2019-05-04 13:20:09 UTC

200mb

2019-05-04 13:20:22 UTC

8gb for my pc

2019-05-04 13:20:28 UTC

ooft

2019-05-04 13:20:49 UTC

capacity of C drive is 111 gb

2019-05-04 13:20:58 UTC

oh my

2019-05-04 13:21:00 UTC

so much

2019-05-04 13:21:04 UTC

yup

2019-05-04 13:21:27 UTC

but

2019-05-04 13:21:30 UTC

when it comes to buying a good pc, it's better to have one that's a beast

2019-05-04 13:21:46 UTC

there is no proof that vaccines cause autism

2019-05-04 13:21:52 UTC

just sayin

2019-05-04 13:22:21 UTC

there's neither proof that says otherwise

2019-05-04 13:22:34 UTC

which is the reason it's still up for research and debate

2019-05-04 13:23:13 UTC

what made people think that vaccines cause utism

2019-05-04 13:23:44 UTC

what they or their friends experienced

2019-05-04 13:24:40 UTC

seeing a child going in regression, shortly after vaccination, no longer being able to do what they've reached before

2019-05-04 13:25:51 UTC

and further resulting into developmental delays

2019-05-04 13:26:32 UTC

but autism usually shows around 12 to 18 months

2019-05-04 13:27:02 UTC

and babies get vaccinated around 12-15 months of age

2019-05-04 13:27:39 UTC

so it may seem like kids are getting autism from vaccines

2019-05-04 13:27:49 UTC

but it really isnt

2019-05-04 13:28:21 UTC

the definition of autism comes as a cluster of symptoms that represent developmental delay at the aspects of communication and socialization

2019-05-04 13:28:41 UTC

yep

2019-05-04 13:28:57 UTC

these developmental delays were observed among these children

2019-05-04 13:30:13 UTC

have you ever compared mercury poisoning symptoms to autism symptoms?

2019-05-04 13:30:24 UTC

nei

2019-05-04 13:31:18 UTC

ooft

2019-05-04 13:31:22 UTC

i just reasearched

2019-05-04 13:31:47 UTC

you can compare symptoms and look at which sound familiar to you

2019-05-04 13:32:24 UTC

treating the disorder at it's causes is one solution to many. If air pollution for instance is a causative factor, what measures would you have taken?

2019-05-04 13:33:14 UTC

kill cows

2019-05-04 13:33:18 UTC

they fart methane

2019-05-04 13:33:31 UTC

Non peer reviewed

2019-05-04 13:33:42 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2019-05-04 13:34:11 UTC

im a anti-anti-vax

2019-05-04 13:35:14 UTC

and i have been vxinated

2019-05-04 13:35:28 UTC

and experienced no autistc symptoms

2019-05-04 13:35:44 UTC

and our school vaccinates us

2019-05-04 13:36:02 UTC

so most of the 1200 people in my school are vaccinated

2019-05-04 13:36:16 UTC

and there was no autism

2019-05-04 13:36:43 UTC

@Lancelot burden of proof falls on the claim of โ€œvaccines cause autismโ€

2019-05-04 13:36:52 UTC

Thats how burden of proof works

2019-05-04 13:36:59 UTC

it also does for the opposite

2019-05-04 13:37:04 UTC

No

2019-05-04 13:37:06 UTC

LOL

2019-05-04 13:37:07 UTC

yes and vaccines dont cause autism

2019-05-04 13:37:14 UTC

wazzaaaah

2019-05-04 13:37:21 UTC

Thats not how burden of proof works

2019-05-04 13:37:29 UTC

Lmao do you know what it means

2019-05-04 13:37:31 UTC

bullocks

2019-05-04 13:37:32 UTC

some people cannot have vaccines due to allergies

2019-05-04 13:37:40 UTC

allergic to eggs

2019-05-04 13:37:55 UTC

sometimes sensitive to polysorbate 80

2019-05-04 13:38:15 UTC

which is like 10 peeps in my school

2019-05-04 13:38:25 UTC

Thats like
โ€œGod exist.โ€
โ€œProve it.โ€
โ€œProve to me god doesnt exist then!โ€

2019-05-04 13:38:36 UTC

Burden of proof falls on the initial claim aka โ€œvaccines cause autismโ€

2019-05-04 13:38:49 UTC

prove that vaccines cause autism

2019-05-04 13:39:05 UTC

the existence of God is neither proven nor disproven, there are just theories behind it based on reason alone

2019-05-04 13:39:20 UTC

Lmao bruh

2019-05-04 13:39:32 UTC

This is just about the phrasing you used โ€œburden of proofโ€

2019-05-04 13:39:42 UTC

Okay fine prove me a negative

2019-05-04 13:39:45 UTC

the burden of proof falls on both

2019-05-04 13:39:48 UTC

so vaccines dont casue autism

2019-05-04 13:39:59 UTC

NO

2019-05-04 13:40:08 UTC

Okay wanna see how thos works

2019-05-04 13:40:08 UTC

where is proof

2019-05-04 13:40:25 UTC

Prove to me that invisible purple monsters dont exist

2019-05-04 13:40:44 UTC

stop avoiding it

2019-05-04 13:40:48 UTC

prove it

2019-05-04 13:41:01 UTC

Prove it

2019-05-04 13:41:14 UTC

here's another problem, strawman and false dichotomy

2019-05-04 13:41:32 UTC

avoiding as usual

2019-05-04 13:41:40 UTC

Lance, burden of proof does not fall on both parties in this situation. If you believe that then you fundamentally dont understand the term โ€œburden of proofโ€

2019-05-04 13:41:41 UTC

very typical of anti vax

2019-05-04 13:41:47 UTC

I've already said, there's no conclusive proof

2019-05-04 13:41:55 UTC

so

2019-05-04 13:42:00 UTC

there's just mixed publications

2019-05-04 13:42:00 UTC

it doesnt cause autism

2019-05-04 13:42:17 UTC

who follows Corbett Report?

2019-05-04 13:42:26 UTC

nope

2019-05-04 13:42:29 UTC

never heard of it

2019-05-04 13:43:31 UTC

and from this discussion

2019-05-04 13:43:41 UTC

vaccines dont causie autism

2019-05-04 13:58:23 UTC

it's more accurate to say that vaccines could cause autism

2019-05-04 13:58:46 UTC

this especially applies when it contain aluminium salts

2019-05-04 13:59:35 UTC

but where is proof

2019-05-04 14:02:02 UTC

the proof says it could, I've already shown the publication

2019-05-04 14:02:37 UTC
2019-05-04 14:05:08 UTC

@Alexandre#2107 you remind me of a robot

2019-05-04 14:06:40 UTC

@Pinnaplia you have nothing of value to add here. When will you show us real information? Or do you have none? Just opinion?

2019-05-04 14:07:00 UTC

Source is CDC

2019-05-04 14:07:17 UTC

@Pinnaplia
The globe earther that thinks the CDC has bad grammar and doesn't take the CDC seriously.

2019-05-04 14:08:09 UTC

he left

2019-05-04 14:08:17 UTC

probably a shill

2019-05-04 14:08:20 UTC

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2019-05-04 14:08:36 UTC

Someone muted him

2019-05-04 15:32:45 UTC

@Alexandre โ„

2019-05-04 20:35:57 UTC

Hey any anti-vaxxers here, explain how vaccines cause harm and cause autism

2019-05-04 23:59:12 UTC

they dont

2019-05-05 00:09:28 UTC

Explain how they dont

2019-05-05 00:09:33 UTC

Im interested

2019-05-05 00:57:38 UTC

@boonie1020 go somewhere else then

2019-05-05 00:57:45 UTC

Let me help you out ok

2019-05-05 00:57:51 UTC
2019-05-05 00:57:52 UTC

<:CHECK6:403540120181145611> **boonie1020#8630** was muted
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2019-05-05 01:19:29 UTC

u guys made the claim that it cause autism

2019-05-05 01:21:09 UTC

and i found no proof that it does

2019-05-05 01:49:27 UTC

if vaccines cause autism, then explain me this antivaxxers

2019-05-05 01:49:31 UTC

Checkmate

2019-05-05 02:08:19 UTC

is there not a epidemic of autism , ?

2019-05-05 02:09:25 UTC

if vax work so well then why don't they protect against un-vaxed ppl // proof they don't work , only kill , just like bill gates said

2019-05-05 02:19:57 UTC

no, they just know how to diagnose it now

2019-05-05 02:20:32 UTC

autism is not a terrible awful thing. its not an awful disease.

2019-05-05 02:35:04 UTC

@spiritualVapor somaRaSa we are not completely immune to diseases

2019-05-05 02:35:23 UTC

vaccines have weakend versions of diseases

2019-05-05 02:35:36 UTC

and it trains our body to fight it

2019-05-05 02:36:02 UTC

basic knowledge my dude

2019-05-05 04:00:19 UTC

@Pinnaplia you provided nothing

2019-05-05 04:04:34 UTC
2019-05-05 04:04:35 UTC

<:vSuccess:390202497827864597> Successfully banned @Pinnaplia

2019-05-05 04:05:01 UTC
2019-05-05 04:05:01 UTC

<:CHECK6:403540120181145611> **TheBubbleThug#8398** was muted
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2019-05-05 04:05:07 UTC

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@Citizen Z ๐Ÿ‘ _clapping_

<:BigGrin:507986757753634826> ๐Ÿ‘

.
lol, smfh at that @Pinnaplia#5281 guy, smh...

@Alexandre <#551617059013001236>

Checkmate

2019-05-05 11:55:22 UTC

2019-05-05 16:39:34 UTC

@The Gwench you are welcome. It is so important for all of us and our DNA.๐Ÿ˜œ

2019-05-05 16:40:19 UTC

ikr

2019-05-05 17:17:53 UTC

nagalase suppresses the immune system through deglycosylating the protein GcMAF (Globulin component Macrophage Activating Factor), which causes that protein to remain unable to bind to vitamin D. This part is a key mechanism for macrophage activity

2019-05-05 17:18:58 UTC

to those who don't understand what macrophages are, it comes from two greek words, macro = big and phage = eater. In other words, big eater.
Here you talk about big cells that capture pathogens

2019-05-05 21:08:20 UTC

This sounds normal

2019-05-05 21:08:26 UTC

Ban anyone with an opinion

2019-05-05 21:08:41 UTC

!mute @Cake B0i

2019-05-05 21:08:42 UTC

<:CHECK6:403540120181145611> **Truman#5675** was muted
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2019-05-05 22:26:19 UTC

!unmute @Cake B0i

2019-05-05 22:26:19 UTC

<:CHECK6:403540120181145611> **Truman#5675** unmuted

2019-05-05 22:26:48 UTC

Why exactly was I muted

2019-05-05 22:28:51 UTC

Vaccines are good

2019-05-05 22:29:54 UTC

Your children need them

2019-05-05 22:30:07 UTC

Careful citizen Z might fly off the handle and mute you for no reason

2019-05-05 22:30:34 UTC

<:CHECK6:403540120181145611> @Doggo has been warned
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2019-05-05 22:30:40 UTC

Dang

2019-05-05 22:37:51 UTC

He is trash

2019-05-05 23:56:10 UTC

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