And the reason vaccines produce it is the reaction from the vaccine; so if your body didn't create enough antibodies then it doesn't matter if you got vaccinated because you can still be that % susceptible. A titer test will confirm if you are safe or not, that is what we should be utilizing in the medical industry when pushing vaccinations, because why push a dosage that we aren't measuring?

I promote proper medical and scientific use of our knowledge, not pseudoscience.

Vaccines without measurements, just like popping pills without proper dosages is ludicrous.

I am for vaccinations, but i am also for proper dosages and proper vaccination.

Otherwise it's not 100% effective and ridiculous.

We have the technology, and you can request it from your doctor....

but most people just accept the information spoon fed instead of questioning.

I mean to be fair, this isn't a new behavior of the human condition

Looking at Milgram's experiments on obedience to authority

I agree

Just by the way... how vaccine studies are done are by testing titer levels; that is how they prove vaccines -partially- effective. It is only truly effective at the individual level, because one dose is not equivalent for another person. Each body reacts differently to vaccines and same with their antibody levels.

"Immunogenicity will be evaluated by the immune response, as measured by change from baseline of the serum HI antibody titers [ Time Frame: 21 days after vaccination ]" https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03321968?cond=%22RNA+Virus+Infections%22&rank=3

Are u also against giving your kids autism?

I am against unnecessary ingredients in vaccines, and unnecessary vaccines.

There pros and cons to either side of the debate

I'm just scared off the sharp asse needles

there are no pro's and cons, you gotta get vaccinated bro 😂

At least you can leave with autism

vaccines dont cause autism bro

vaccines cause cancer

Guys

this server is a gold mine

mining all day

agreed

Vaccines are overrated

Here in china

We don't get any

Yet

We are thriving

Explain that

Capitalist pigs

hmm

oh

Exactly it’s so dumb

your dental care is expensive

and our teeth are well

our dental care is cheap

Listen before there were baxxcines how did we survive

compared to yours

explain that communist pigs

Ever heard of toothpastes

yes

Brush your teeth

but

nvm

@League Pro

we developed natural immunities to everything

Yea

So?

Y did we lose it

Cuz of the vaccines

They weaken us

All these things always have side affects

Yea

There is aluminium in them

im not going to say anything

We need to develop our immune systems by ourselves

Not with axillary drugs

Smh

Alright, @coolangamer1934 has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

AUTISTIC

YOU ARE AUTISTIC

THE VACCINES ARE NOT THE PROBLEM

YOU ARE YOU ACTUAL TARDS

lol

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-04-15-measles-vaccinees-should-be-banned-from-all-public-places.html

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-03-06-genetic-sequencing-science-breakthrough-just-proved-that-measles-outbreaks-are-caused-by-the-measles-vaccine.html

says it causes autism right on the vax insert, along with sids among other things that can kill you

Vaccines are healthy

*drops mic*

They are it’s been proven

THEY STOP DISEASES NOT START THEM

AUTISM IS GENETIC AND CANT BE CAUSED MY A NEEDLE

Alright, @oopers has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

Ha

<:whopinged:489114411387191296>

but seriously

like

most of you anti-vaxxers

get your info from one artice

cle

which most of the authors

said was false

yeah they tried desperately to pull their names out of the article after the fact

okay so i got into an argument with an anti vaxxer because they would rather their daughter be dead than be autistic and healthy

opinions?

hello fellow antivaxxers

!!

i agreeeeee

Agreed

agree

Vaccines are good I know

Use some gasoline

yes i know from expeirience

hahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

HAAAAAHHHHHHHhhhhhhh

HAHAHAHAH

https://vaccinate.initiatives.qld.gov.au/facts/

Sheep

>>ban <@533437713744134144> talking about burning children

<:vSuccess:390202497827864597> Successfully banned <@533437713744134144>

Vaccines are good

If you think they cause anything apart from protection

Alright, @Kage Wune has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

@Rev what makes you say that?

Vaccinations are used to protect people

Strengthen their immune system

K.

Not harm them

I studied this i know

So no one is harmed?

Of course small number of people get affected

On the rare cases they react badly

So you dont care about those?

But thats their body nothing to do with the vaccine itself

Not that i care

Then stfu

It’s that there’s not enough proof from the few individuals who react to vaccines to prove they’re unsafe

Okay calm down

You want to debate we can debate

This looks like a debate chat?

Yes debates are not consisted of “stfu”

U just warned someone for bad word usage but your using bad word

?

!mute @Bailey_

Bailey_#8628 (567568465540546563) is now muted for '**Unspecified.**', alright? <:THUMBSUP6:403560443345371137>

I have evidence you have evidence, I’m happy to show you the evidence

!mute @Rev

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Lol when you can’t win an argument so you mute them

Lol

<@&484512215764828162> wtf u doing this guy is just muting people for his incapability to win an argument and his frustrations

i dont think thats how it is supposed to work

>>mute @Nurofen

<:vSuccess:390202497827864597> Successfully muted **Nurofen**#0242

😄

Dang I can't send images in here?

jesus what

from what it looks like the mods just got kinda annoyed so they muted?

don’t mute me tho pls

i don’t want to be involved with this

when it comes to aluminum toxicity, vaccine papers turns out to have the most clear explanation regarding that. Their focus is on the effects of them

then we've got 10th amendment movement

instance 1: https://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2019/04/texas-bill-would-increase-vaccine-safety-reject-federal-narrative/

if you want to know about how safety is tested and how they are approved by the FDA, do your own research by looking on their websites. Also look at the studies and specifically look for inert placebo groups (placebo that uses saline, not adjuvants)

furthermore look for long term safety studies if you want to find out

This is not a debate channel nor will we entertain concerns about the staff or server here.

@tekashi

@vPinchr @tekashi Join voice chat for vaxx discussions so you can back up your assertions. We provide you the evidence against vaccinations and you all simply ignore it and tell us to do research. Clearly, we did. @WanderStruck @MooMooMilk One article? Looks like we have several sources in these vaxx channels if you bother to get off your ass and look. @coolangamer1934 @RNG Salesman

Well

I loked

back

and realized

there are multiple soruces

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These

“This is not a debate channel” the title: ‘Vaxx discussions’

And voice chat

undeafen me maybe

@vPinchr Ergo, why I said, ***"JOIN VOICE CHAT!!***

i would but i cant hear you

@Citizen Z what's up?

@The Rig nothin

Just was asking if same ppl at gems

I liked talking to a few ppl there

Toxic bunch overall tho

@Citizen Z yeah same bunch but a few new people

ahahhahhhaha citizen why did you mute them during a debate

This isnt a debate channel how dumb are you

but there was a debate going on

There is no debate

Stop concern trolling

ok ill stop

Hey

speaking about mumps, there's an extract from spirulina that has been shown in vitro to inhibit replication of that virus.
Here's the study: https://archive.fo/Zb1Db

then there's also sandalwood oil, one of the benefits is that it's expectorant, it therefore is effective in treating coughs and infections that cause coughs, cold, flu or mumps.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2018/10/01/synthetic-sandalwood-chemical-for-hair-growth.aspx
https://books.google.com.ph/books?id=cuCoDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA37&dq=sandalwood+oil+relieves+itching&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjri6HMt8PdAhUM_4MKHbuzD40Q6AEIJjAA#v=onepage&q=sandalwood%20oil%20relieves%20itching&f=false
NOTE: Sandalwood oil has aphrodisiac effects

rehab

niggers

Alright, @God has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

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Alright, @God has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

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Alright, @God has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

Alright, @God has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

!mute @God

God#6761 (458117319076478978) is now muted for '**Unspecified.**', alright? <:THUMBSUP6:403560443345371137>

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1grRtkrWCGlHVkewgc8pzm_ZFJRexdwvoMOK-wG1Axqo/mobilebasic

What are your guy’s views on vaccines? Any opinion is completely fine.

It’s needed

anti vaxxers reasons are totally out weighed

based on the research I've done, my opinion comes to that we have to first do pre-screenings for any possible side effects that are more likely to occur among certain groups. Secondly to have patients individualized on vaccination, just like with all other medical interventions. If we want to stop overvaccination, individualization as well as not using excessive vaccines

flu shots and HPV vaccine are two examples of excessive vaccines, where it's most likely risks outweigh benefits

MMR should be given with all three apart instead of the "cocktail" itself. Since these viruses can interact with each other.
For decreasing risks, taking extra vitamin C could be helpful

vaccines cause cancer lol

this is true should they contain free DNA SV-40 virus and/or other retroviruses

Ok vaccinations do not course brain damage

that is only true if they don't contain anything directly or indirectly toxic to neurons

problem is that the aluminum salts, namely aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate and aluminum sulfate, the used adjuvants don't dissolve in water

therefore if the vaccine containing aluminum looks like a clear solution, it's actually a colloid

liquid containing nanoparticles are colloids, which is true for this reason

once the injection takes place, the immune system gets activated

macrophages are involved, and capture some the the aluminum nanoparticles

here's a mice study about the hepitatis B vaccine (contains aluminum):
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0162013417304749

this study also says that the casual relationship is likely to be present: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0162013411002212

the first study has an inert placebo, the other shows a possible causal relationship

https://www.wishtv.com/amp/news/local-news/iu-nearly-all-mumps-patients-were-vaccinated-prompting-some-students-to-get-third-mmr-shot/1935080190?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_WISH-TV&__twitter_impression=true

when vaccines go wrong

vaccines gives aids

duh

actually it gives you the disease ur tryna protect urself against

No trolling

https://youtu.be/WwcXiU0c7e4

http://abundanthope.net/pages/Political_Information_43/Did-Bill-Gates-KNOW-His-Polio-Vaccination-Push-Would-Paralyze-Children_printer.shtml

I think that people not vacinating is fine, even though they are beneficial, not vacinating solves overpopulation and make funeral industries alot of money.

Dumb

Have you read anything or do you just blindly follow the pharmaceutical companies?

You are hoping people die. You are a sick piece of shit

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The Chucken Noris#6862 (452156083956613130) is now muted for '**Unspecified.**', alright? <:THUMBSUP6:403560443345371137>

only sick people hope for the death of some people, sometimes of a specific property

the term overpopulation alone is dehumanizing, depopulation isn't even the solution if you stop narrowing your viewpoint

if it is about that issue, the real cause has to do with population density and access to resources

the solution is creating breakaway civilizations in space, an alternative that has it's moral value, which will save all lives not just from death, but also from tyranny as a consequence of decentralization

No air in space. It isnt real

if other dimensions exist, build there breakaway civilizations

hello anti vaxxer

Hello mindless sheep

wat

hey guys

you will all die

you brought back small pox

you will get polio soon

this is why we need to get mandatory vaccinations
so we dont make other people die and yourself die

What are we trying to discuss here

If vaccine are the cause of autism?

vaccines*

@engineers turret stop fear mongering

@happybag discussion of any topic related to vaccines

Ok

idc citizen z

that's what you do with your jet trails

and saying 9/11 was done by the goverment

If you dont Vax you are gay

Are you all antivaxxers?

Hello fellow anti vaxxers