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2018-07-31 22:41:34 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXiuO5Guds4 @Crumplepoint some background context on the current government(ANC/SACP alliance)

2018-07-31 22:46:09 UTC

@Crumplepoint in a nutshell it was a system to assist each group to own their own country.

2018-07-31 22:46:25 UTC

the government spent trillions on uplifting these countries

2018-07-31 22:48:25 UTC

jerm's always going on about his prepper farmer friends(and himself)

2018-07-31 22:50:28 UTC

@rob Not a fan?

2018-07-31 22:51:04 UTC

if someone doesn't know the benefits of a vehicle, he will burn the tyres.

2018-07-31 22:51:22 UTC

No, I'm a fan

2018-07-31 22:51:27 UTC

that's IQ and democracy in a nutshell

2018-07-31 22:51:33 UTC

just saying, it's a hobby of his on twitter

2018-07-31 22:52:31 UTC

Top Comment on (In Brazil, it is considered rude to be on time to a party):
"My impression as to your cheap labour was soon disillusioned when I saw your people at work. No doubt they are lowly paid, but the return is equally so; to see your men at work made me feel that you are a very satisfied and easy-going race who reckon time is no object. When I spoke to some managers they informed me that it was impossible to change the habits of a national heritage."
This excerpt appears in Ha-Joon Chang's book "Bad Samaritans" and it was written by an Australian consultant with regards to Japan in August 1915. Chang also mentions Sidney Gulick's 1903 book "Evolution of the Japanese" which also stereotypes the Japanese as "'easy-going' and 'emotional' people who possessed qualities like 'lightness of heart, freedom from all anxiety for the future, living chiefly for the present.'"

I don't have details on Brazil, but I am almost certain that this "Brazilian time" is just a symptom of some completely reversible, systemic problem that is making it difficult to do business with high-technologies in Brazil.

Possibly relevant to us?

2018-07-31 22:53:19 UTC

@rob Was genuine question. Just interested in your opinion

2018-07-31 22:53:57 UTC

not avoiding answering, was just commenting, I have no problem with it

2018-07-31 22:54:19 UTC

maybe the tone wasn't communicated

2018-07-31 22:55:14 UTC

Lol and I read the wrong message thinking you were answering me

2018-07-31 22:55:36 UTC

Britain in the 17th century was superior to the rest of Europe

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Ditsem! @AltCapRight, you just advanced to level 1!

2018-07-31 23:00:54 UTC

that is not accurate

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it is mixing lies with truth

2018-07-31 23:01:35 UTC

it is saying we stole dingaans cattle

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and we said we will give it back if he gives us land

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You stole his dog!

2018-07-31 23:03:40 UTC

it does

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This is getting confusing 🤕

2018-07-31 23:04:09 UTC

@9:10 ou oom jy jok lekker. Old man you are lying through your teeth, Dingaan knew who stole the cattle and he knew it was not the voortrekkers. The treaty was, go get dingaans stolen cattle and the thieves who stole it and then we can start negotiating.

2018-07-31 23:04:17 UTC

sorry for the afrikaans

2018-07-31 23:04:28 UTC

that was me pointing out to him that he wa slying

2018-07-31 23:05:42 UTC

have a look at this link and let me know what you think

2018-07-31 23:07:07 UTC

yes our government back in the early 1900s made a movie

2018-07-31 23:07:15 UTC

but i think it's all in afrikaans

2018-07-31 23:07:25 UTC

@theeChristopher ja that's a pretty bad spot @AltCapRight compare 9:10 in that video vs wikipedia on that episode: In October 1837, the Voortrekker leader Piet Retief visited Dingane at his royal kraal to negotiate a land deal for the voortrekkers. In November, about 1,000 Voortrekker wagons began descending the Drakensberg mountains from the Orange Free State into what is now KwaZulu-Natal.

Dingane asked that Retief and his party retrieve some cattle stolen from him by a local chief as part of the treaty for land for the Boers. This Retief and his men did, returning on 3 February 1838. The next day, a treaty was signed, wherein Dingane ceded all the land south of the Tugela River to the Mzimvubu River to the Voortrekkers. Celebrations followed. On 6 February, at the end of the celebrations, Retief's party were invited to a dance, and asked to leave their weapons behind. At the peak of the dance, Dingane leapt to his feet and yelled "Bambani abathakathi!" (isiZulu for "Seize the wizards"). Retief and his men were overpowered, taken to the nearby hill kwaMatiwane, and executed.

2018-07-31 23:08:16 UTC

there are some (large) inaccuracies but the dates and map/territory details should be correct

2018-07-31 23:12:39 UTC

Who is the guy asking for a documentary?

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if you want information about us Boers

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you must

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search Voortrekker

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Ditsem! @RaRi, you just advanced to level 6!

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Ditsem! @Crusher, you just advanced to level 3!

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see ya guys

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going to bed

2018-07-31 23:50:24 UTC

Night man

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Hello @RaRi ! Hier is hy!


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Got is before the federal judge stopped them


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why is it so quiet?

2018-08-01 17:03:08 UTC

still on Renalso's live stream

2018-08-01 17:03:33 UTC

We should also switch to Willem in 5 min

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debating EFF person

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2018-08-01 17:05:13 UTC

who you debating, not the Julie chick again?

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2018-08-01 17:08:36 UTC

renaldo is commenting on your video

2018-08-01 17:20:17 UTC

die eff is besig om baie eeeeeee ffffffffokken kak te praat... geen grond om op te staan nie...

2018-08-01 17:22:07 UTC

Willem hou vas neh, bly om te sien hy is in beheer.. hy moet dit net so ophou

2018-08-01 17:22:50 UTC

Daai eff kan gaan slaap, hy het nie feite nie... Go willem

2018-08-01 17:23:59 UTC

Ja maar laat hy homself peophol maak, sodra willem sy feite bring, en die ou kans gee om homself peophol te maak.. kan sien daai ou raak bietjie nervous soos hy willem in die rede probeer laat voel, en willem sit hom in sy plek

2018-08-01 17:24:16 UTC

hy hou nie sy hou terug nie

2018-08-01 17:25:02 UTC

Nou gooi hy weer dit is "RACisT"😫

2018-08-01 17:27:54 UTC

Jip, maar hy moet nie dit hom laat af gooi nie, hy moet net ingaan met sy argument

2018-08-01 17:31:19 UTC

how are you suppose to debate between 2 people who have different 'facts' ?

2018-08-01 17:36:42 UTC

Willem will address the facts here after... it doesnt matter, this guy is dropping us their information and their rhetoric, so after this video, will fact check all his claims, and compare with history.. guarentee you this guys facts cant be tracked very far back, will find out when the lies were made up.

2018-08-01 17:37:32 UTC

we need this guy to give us as much of their rhetoric as much as possible, so that we can disprove it later on

2018-08-01 17:41:28 UTC

This EFF guy doesnt know the difference between propaganda and fact

2018-08-01 17:42:59 UTC

the black intellectual = communist was producing their indepenedent news = propaganda

2018-08-01 17:45:06 UTC

you won't be able to disprove people who want to believe something else,

2018-08-01 17:45:18 UTC

facts won't matter to them

2018-08-01 17:47:14 UTC

it's not about convincing this fool,

2018-08-01 17:47:55 UTC

I mean the general population, not one individual... it is just the same issue on a larger scale

2018-08-01 17:50:50 UTC

lol we're going to reason until kingdom come.

2018-08-01 17:51:07 UTC

the larger majority probably dont have access to free information, only what they are provided

2018-08-01 17:52:17 UTC

around the 7 billionth time we're gona go "hey, wait just a minute... reasoning doesn't seem to work with these here people..."

2018-08-01 17:52:49 UTC

I see the same duality of reality in much of the world, and in my own country, this is the failure of multiculturalism

2018-08-01 17:52:50 UTC

yeah he is not accepting it, just says no... flat out denies it

2018-08-01 17:54:11 UTC

failure of multiculturism? you imply it can succeed? How so?

2018-08-01 17:54:27 UTC

no implication of that intended

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Ditsem! @Hyko, you just advanced to level 2!

2018-08-01 17:56:57 UTC

lol I"I dont understand what you are doing"

2018-08-01 17:57:02 UTC

thats a gem right there

2018-08-01 18:05:33 UTC

@Guss do you have a MEGA account?

2018-08-01 18:11:23 UTC

Yeah lets go check this guys history, and then bash his propaganda and expose it for what it is

2018-08-01 18:12:22 UTC

he is right, stealing everything will create equality, everyone will starve to death

2018-08-01 18:13:59 UTC

"it takes a genius not to see it"

2018-08-01 18:15:03 UTC

Good Grief daai "debat" was shocking

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it was neh

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presies ja

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ja wie was daai settler

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ekt hom gesien da opi video

2018-08-01 18:22:28 UTC

dude ISIS skiet elke dag sy 7.62 AK47 met een hand

2018-08-01 18:23:59 UTC

daar is min boere wat rerig beplan

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Culture en values is ook net so groot saak om te maak

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kon skaars hoor

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@Nux Is jy Bellville Piet?

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Glo dit was i signal vir 'n third party

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@Sheamus ja ek dink ook so

2018-08-01 18:38:03 UTC

Okei sorrie Nux

2018-08-01 18:38:51 UTC

np 😃

2018-08-01 18:39:31 UTC

@Daniebees Vertigo Politix het 'n great video oor liberale, dat mens moet aanhoe hul cognitive dissonance trigger en as hulle teendruk = "up the fucking voltage"

2018-08-01 18:39:42 UTC

vat sy feite aan en bewys dit as propoganda... sy feite kan nie moontlik so ver terug gaan soos ons geskiedenis nie, daai is onlangse alternatiewe feite

2018-08-01 18:40:33 UTC

Die beste is as jy hul kry om hulself te contradict

2018-08-01 18:40:44 UTC

die mental gymnastics

2018-08-01 18:42:12 UTC

dit was uitstekend!

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Hello ouens! Dankie virrie invite Klip! Ek moet 'n mic soek erens.

2018-08-01 18:46:22 UTC

Ja maar daar is wel slimmer swart mense - nie almal is so nie

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plus kleurlinge

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hoe meer mense mens red uit die kake van komunisme 😄

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feite is goud werd

2018-08-01 18:47:37 UTC

wat was die boeke wat daai ou genoem het?

2018-08-01 18:47:50 UTC

@Bellville Piet Werk jou mic? Jarra bra, ek gaan daai livestream van Willem uitmekaar meme.

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ad hominems, strawmans en appeal to emotions lol baie logical fallacies

2018-08-01 18:49:09 UTC

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) Nai sorrie ou ek het noggie 'n mic nie, ek moet een soek. Sal more grawe. HAHA janee ek dink jy het genoeg content daar vir 10x videos!!!

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@Bellville Piet Als orait ou, welkom!

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@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) jy kan al daai logical fallacies uithaal... sal 'n goeie video maak, jy het al klaar begin met daai teen Renaldo ek glo

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lol wtf, Toys R us?

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ek hoop hy het die slippie gehou...

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Definitief @Daniebees

2018-08-01 18:52:17 UTC

kan iemand daai video aan stoot vir ToysRus vir comment?

2018-08-01 18:53:46 UTC

My Pa is nogals skepr op Facebook hoor

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Ditsem! @Bellville Piet, you just advanced to level 1!

2018-08-01 18:54:02 UTC

lol ya 😄 😂

2018-08-01 18:54:37 UTC

hulle sal seker, maar ten minste is die ander kant ook nou beskikbaar vir almal.

2018-08-01 18:54:38 UTC

youtube is 'n propaganda platform eintlik is dit nie? Sien baie van dit

2018-08-01 18:54:55 UTC

Swart Maandag?

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Ons moenie kak soek nie

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nee ou ons is nie k- furs nie

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Ek gaan eers 'n vriete maak. Safe.

2018-08-01 18:56:04 UTC

Die kak gaan anyways na ons toe kom

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Leka Klip!

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Onthou Retief

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Die witman moet afleer om so te praat @Lofty. Dit doen ons nie goed nie.

2018-08-01 18:58:10 UTC

Die witman moet afleer om so te praat @cµrvy . Dit doen ons nie goed nie.

2018-08-01 18:58:13 UTC

Toys R Us EFF Gun. co

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OK Piet

2018-08-01 19:01:39 UTC

@TruthCanary build a wall

2018-08-01 19:01:58 UTC

Build a wall that would make trump proud

2018-08-01 19:01:59 UTC

Ditsem! @Sheamus, you just advanced to level 14!

2018-08-01 19:02:41 UTC

die weermag se mos hulle gaan "skop en donnor"

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kan julle my hoor?

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jou mic is gemute

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you're muted

2018-08-01 19:03:24 UTC

this browser app is full of bugs

2018-08-01 19:03:28 UTC

@theeChristopher Nee, jou mic is dan af

2018-08-01 19:03:49 UTC

okay nee ek sal more weer probeer el moet nou werk

2018-08-01 19:04:13 UTC

ek is die browser app, click die rat (settings) regs onder egaan deur al die audio en mic settings

2018-08-01 19:04:29 UTC

Tata ouens ek sleep eers, ek voel bietjie uit sonder 'n mic. Ek moet erens eens he, sal gaan rond krap vir dit.

2018-08-01 19:05:00 UTC

@Bellville Piet gebruik jou foon en earphones

2018-08-01 19:05:05 UTC

dankie @Guss ja maar die ding toggle nie altyd

2018-08-01 19:05:33 UTC

Juis dit waarvoor ek gaan soek @Sheamus 😉

2018-08-01 19:05:52 UTC

lol reg so

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kyk die doccy

2018-08-01 19:09:32 UTC

@Guss you've got some feedback bud, try push to talk instead of auto

2018-08-01 19:09:37 UTC

Met skerms as jy baie tyd spandeer:
1) VA panle se back lid beter, aangesien dit nie flikker nie.
2) OOk, kry skerm met blue light filter

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Its ok, just typed here what I wanted to say

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Ditsem! @HoppeanSnake_ZA, you just advanced to level 12!

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was there a moderator? how did you guys give each other turns so civilly

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Serbia was a monarchy

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they sided with the communists

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wat gebeur met zim?

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dit lyk soos burgeroorloog

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Libertarianism is impossible

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all cultures definately arent equal

2018-08-01 19:21:27 UTC

globalists? you mean jews?

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Ditsem! @Nogals, you just advanced to level 2!

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@Arm Ayn Rand is a jew

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it was

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Renier het die heeltyd gekla oor die kamera

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are you going to have a moderator/chair ? @Rendier Lindsey Maasdorp won't follow any protocol

2018-08-01 19:28:25 UTC

Yes humans have morality and reason... not everyone has that

2018-08-01 19:29:18 UTC

My favorite was "I dont understand what you are doing"

2018-08-01 19:30:22 UTC

SAIRR are pretty redpill

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tsk tsk tsk

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facts are pretty redpill.....

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coz facts are Right :]

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you guys are classic

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if you're scary enough people leave you alone

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kolonies gaan mekaar colonize

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no, it will be glorified gated communities

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weet die DA jys 'n joiner?

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only if there's a mole/spy here

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@Rendier - 😅

2018-08-01 19:40:01 UTC

You can bet there are lurkers here.

2018-08-01 19:40:17 UTC

no doubt

2018-08-01 19:40:20 UTC

Maybe SAPS intelligence

2018-08-01 19:40:28 UTC

do you think they can follow all the afrikaans?

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