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Who said co2 is the main contributor? Uhhh every crying liberal snowflake
You guys will stop at nothing to add more taxes to yourselves
If we left it up to liberals we would have 100% taxation
Your link is a hypothetical btw
Also, climate models have all been wrong. Why should this model be any different
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So much for the methane alarmists
I mean
Oof
There is evidence for climate change, there is a lot
I have no idea how taxes come into this
Actually, I lie, yes I do
I personally hate the idea of modern taxing and honestly think it is utter bull
I agree that if we left it up to the liberals that we would be 100% taxed
And also, why my link is hypothetical, hypothesis are created to be proven
So even if it isnt 100% true, it is supposed to introduce some ideas about what could be the potential hazards of methane in our system
Climate isnt my strong suit in geography but I know a large amount about it
At least we agree on that
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climate change is not real lol been proven. you should never trust government sources, they tend to lie @mineyful
Huh the whole world is against me then ๐ฑ
Dunno mate takes a lot to deny everything thatโs been going on
You donโt have to be contrarian
Climate change is never 100% set in stone
The climate has been changing forever
If you look at a chart itโs pretty hard to deny it
Cuz charts
Wow good comeback
I wish I thought of that
Hmmmm
Lot of naturalnews articles
Do you think man made climate change is a thing?
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Nice
they are on strike from not working ๐ค
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Weird
this guy SHIVA MIT Prof. totally awesome that video will be great for anyone who still believes the climate hoax he lays it out in a awesome way in 12 minutes : https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yoKMBMPeNnGQ?t=1m8s
Periscope
Cool
who benefits ? ๐
How dare you!
I should be across the ocean at school!
They used to have an entire article on their website that said the the sun is the driving force of the climate
Unfortunately that was deleted
1895 - Geologists Think the World May Be Frozen Up Again โ New York Times, February 1895
1902 - โDisappearing Glaciersโฆdeteriorating slowly, with a persistency that means their final annihilationโฆscientific factโฆsurely disappearing.โ โ Los Angeles Times
1912 - Prof. Schmidt Warns Us of an Encroaching Ice Age โ New York Times, October 1912
1923 - โScientist says Arctic ice will wipe out Canadaโ โ Professor Gregory of Yale University, American representative to the Pan-Pacific Science Congress, โ Chicago Tribune
1923 - โThe discoveries of changes in the sunโs heat and the southward advance of glaciers in recent years have given rise to conjectures of the possible advent of a new ice ageโ โ Washington Post
1924 - MacMillan Reports Signs of New Ice Age โ New York Times, Sept 18, 1924
1929 - โMost geologists think the world is growing warmer, and that it will continue to get warmerโ โ Los Angeles Times, in Is another ice age coming?
1932 - โIf these things be true, it is evident, therefore that we must be just teetering on an ice ageโ โ The Atlantic magazine, This Cold, Cold World
1933 - America in Longest Warm Spell Since 1776; Temperature Line Records a 25-Year Rise โ New York Times, March 27th, 1933
1933 โ โโฆwide-spread and persistent tendency toward warmer weatherโฆIs our climate changing?โ โ Federal Weather Bureau โMonthly Weather Review.โ
1938 - Global warming, caused by man heating the planet with carbon dioxide, โis likely to prove beneficial to mankind in several ways, besides the provision of heat and power.โโ Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/08/120_years_of_climate_scares.html?fbclid=IwAR2Ubv6NyqBOg5bl97LGOY3AWWis5XIA7d9NfTJiH0J5oNSdyPdPvoLuuHY
Sucking CO2 from our planesphere is not going to do the earth any good. ๐
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-10-03-dumb-bill-gates-project-gasoline-from-carbon-dioxide.html
Water shortages? Lol
@Citizen Z it goes right along with my post before it. Idiotic environmental predictions
@indio007 yeah it goes right along with your saying.
Consult the Oracle
Lol
^^^ funny
Mann now finds himself in some pretty hot water since itโs been revealed that his hockey stick is more of a hokey stick, as it holds absolutely no scientific weight.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-11-04-climate-change-a-criminal-science-fraud-ring.html
Professor Valentina Zharkova: The Solar Magnet Field and the Terrestrial Climate
109,786 views
โขNov 5, 2018
I thought climate change was destroying the reef
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Sabine Hossenfelder has a PhD in physics and is presently a Research Fellow at the Frankfurt Institute for Advanced Studies. She is author of the book "Lost in Math: How Beauty Leads Physics Astray"
@RadRhys you should read that. There is no such thing as manmade global warming
Thx my dude, Iโll read it later today
But because of the meme...
>breitbart lmao
Breitbart isn't a meme. Its a news organization that happened to report on marcos interview.
The meme is that Breitbart is a biased source that gets money from the fossil fuel industry and rarely sources information. Itโs like PragerU but marginally better.
CO2 was not claimed to be poisonous, at least not in the way implied.
CO2 increasing plant productivity only when there is a surplus of other resources. What I said about plants closing their stomata for longer still holds very true. I find it ironic that youโre supporting a conclusion gained from satellite telemetry. I would also like to point out the trillion tree campaign, which seeks to plant a trillion trees and is spearheaded by China, India, and Ethiopia.
During the Jurassic and especially the Triassic (Pangea), it is believed that there was a starker contrast between drier inland areas and wetter, river/lake/coastal areas. The prevalence of CO2 is an estimated average over millions of years. The criticism also ignores other factors, such as the sun increasing in intensity over time.
The forests arenโt the lungs of the Earth, but they are the carbon sequesters. As for the actual lungs of the Earth, they are facing habitat loss partly due to a tendency of lower productivity in areas with higher temperatures.
This is a fallacy theyโre positing, the effectiveness of H2O as a greenhouse gas has no bearing on whether CO2 is one or not. Thereโs also the fact that raising temperatures will increase the capacity for air to hold water and increase the energy of water, thus increasing evaporation. This means MORE H2O in the atmosphere.
Another fallacy, climate change having natural motivators has no bearing on whether climate change is or can be anthropogenically motivated. We have no evidence suggesting temperatures have ever increased so quickly in all of recorded history.
โWeโve been here beforeโ is a Nonargument.
Theyโre trivializing sea level rise by ignoring the fact that this fast of a rise has never been observed in history. Increasing average levels can and will be devestating to areas that donโt have the resources to move like Nigeria or the ability to terraform like the Netherlands.
More aggregious my, they claim that Greenland ice has INCREASED by 112 million km^3, which is completely ridiculous and would cover the entire continent of North America in over 7 miles of ice. I canโt find out where they got this figure anywhere, I canโt even find a single source reporting an increase of ice, land or sea, in Greenland. As for Antarctic (no sourcing is a problem again), this is ignoring (at that point in time) the past 2 years of data, which showed a rapid decrease in ice. https://www.pnas.org/content/116/29/14414
This claim about weather is also unfounded and smacks in the face of data. Hereโs an analysis of severe weather events in/near the US (which is the only country that matters ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ) https://nca2014.globalchange.gov/highlights/report-findings/extreme-weather
I have to presume theyโre cherry-picking data because they cite 1 source that isnโt even up anymore. Iโve literally a prediction model that underpredicted temperatures sitting in my camera roll.
Iโm not interested in the last 3 points for reasons that should be self evident, but speed run. Exaggeration of opposing claim and misuse of data; better medical care; this is literally a repeat.
I apologize for the dump but itโs every point in part 1. If p1 is this bad, I donโt even want to know how bad p2 gets. Dare I even imagine a part 3? *shudder*
And u believe all that?
Nice response
First of all. When a plant has increased CO2, it needs less water.
Increased co2 will make plants more draught tolerant
You dont need a surplus of other resources besides co2 to increase plant productivity.
It can be soley an increase in co2 and the plant will become a super plant (comparably)
They are specifically referring to this study, https://www.pnas.org/content/113/36/10019
If you cut down a forest, unless it is quickly replanted or you control the environment, it will cease to retain its moisture and the presence of chlorophyll necessarily decreases overall.
As I said before, there are more factors. Here is a study talking about another limiting factor: nitrogen. https://www.pnas.org/content/107/45/19368
Not only does man-caused global warming not exist, but it is also the scientific hoax of the century. And 90 leading Italian scientists say so.
https://www.afa.net/the-stand/culture/2019/07/90-scientists-global-warming-is-a-total-hoax/
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LOLOLOLOL
I donโt get it, theyโre right
Trump stands in the way of good environmental reform
Regional raw data is insufficient
All of them did*
โFor at least three decades scientists and activists have been warning that the world is on the verge of a global warming crisisโ
https://newspunch.com/12-climate-change-apocalypse-warnings-from-30-years-didnt-happen/
Have yโall never heard of a wave cloud?
Theyโve existed long before radio was a thing
have tyou ever seen those beams being sent around on radar. that stuff is pretty weird
โWhat a disgusting lie!
He has NOTHING to back up that number.
It-is-a-complete-lie!โ
https://nworeport.me/2019/12/03/junk-science-jumps-the-shark-un-secretary-general-says-global-warming-has-claimed-7-million-lives-where/
@Wretch Always the same BS from these people.
From your article
"There are virtually no actual measures of anything including temperature and precipitation, but especially GHG. What they do is produce data in a separate computer model and then use it as real data in another model."
Global cooling was never seriously considered, it was just a media fad. Climate science was also in its infancy.
climate science? LOL I don't think so. Climate tea reading is more accurate.
ah, so this is where the infamous indio resides
If you actually listened to what she said, you should understand that it was a literal translation
It would imply execution in English, but that was clearly not intended. She even explicitly stated that in her apology
Why would that be an accident
Whatโs more believable...
A rich, 16 year old girl saying we should kill government officials
or
A literal translation having different meanings in different languages and cultures
What did she mean?
Why would she apologize if she meant something else
The proper translation is โto put one on the spotโ
And since when is an apology an admission of guilt or a sign of weakness?
โThat's what happens when you improvise speeches in a second language. But of course I apologise if anyone misunderstood this,โ
Wtf!!! Now she is inciting violence? Omg!!! ๐ฎ
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-12-17-greta-thunberg-calls-for-executions-of-world-leaders.html
She apologized tho =)
No, she never called for executions
Again, โWhatโs more believable...
A rich, 16 year old girl saying we should kill government officials
or
A literal translation having different meanings in different languages and culturesโ
She said put them up against a wall
Sheesh u r like a communist lawyer
She doesnt mean it anyways
She uses single use plastic
Just a child beinh used
Niether the context of the speech nor the context of her broader message even indicates execution as something sheโs considered. I will ask again, which is more believable: literal translation having different meanings, or a rich, white, 16 year old girl calling for the systematic killing of government officials?
And how dare she drink water or eat snacks when she wants, amirite? Donโt mind that Swedenโs trash per capita is extremely low in comparison to other western nations
What does her skin color have to do with it?
If she was black it would be believeable? @RadRhys
Sheโs one of the most privileged people in class, is part of a racial majority from her country, and is a child. Thereโs no reason for her to call for the extermination of people who held/hold political office, and it doesnโt follow any context whatsoever. Youโre just denying reality if you actually believe she wants that.
Itโs your interpretation of her words
I still dont see why you brought up her skin color. Are you a racist? @RadRhys
Sea ice is a minority, most ice is present on the land.
So u r racist against sea ice too?
Lmao that was actually a good one
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like, idk, if the glacier is ABOVE sea level?
and I mean over land
like in Antarctica
or Iceland
or the Yukon regions of Alaska and western Canada?
Sea levels have been rising for 10000 years. Get over it
That doesnโt change the fact that ice is melting as a result of human activity
That's bollocks. Correlation isn't causation.You don't even have a correlation. You don't even have a statistically significant sample size for temperature data . 1 thermometer per 23000 sq miles. GL with that
Solar irradiance has slightly decreased since the 90s and we are just about it at another minimum now. Volcanic activity in emissions arenโt changing significantly. There are less forests to lock away carbon, but that is anthropogenic. Any other major factors?
Climate change is fake.
They put the sensors next to air vents ๐
*"โข A sensor in Redding, Calif., is housed in a box that also contains a halogen light bulb, which could emit warmth directly onto the gauge.
โข A sensor in Hanksville, Utah, sits directly atop a gravestone, which is not only macabre but also soaks up the sun's heat and radiates it back to the thermometer at night.
โข A sensor in Marysville, Calif., sits in a parking lot at a fire station right next to an air conditioner exhaust, a cell phone tower and a barbecue grill.
โข A sensor in Tahoe City, Calif., sits near a paved tennis court and is right next to a "burn barrel" that incinerates garbage.
โข A sensor in Hopkinsville, Ky., is sheltered from the wind by an adjoining house and sits above an asphalt driveway."*
๐ No shit it's going to be hotter when you put it next to an exhaust vent!
Thats pretty funny actually
Just further proof of the lies. These sensors are all conveniently placed in places that tend to gather large amounts of heat.
Hillarious how they try to hide them but people still find them.
Not to mention most are in California, again, another area known to be quite hot.
1) >Fox News
2) I checked all 5 and none can be verified. 3 were either down or had no evidence at all.
3) It says thereโs a survey of 1000 some stations, but provides no evidence for this
4) โWatts (the man supposedly responsible for the survey) readily agrees that temperatures are on the rise worldwide, but he believes the magnitude of the increase is in question, and he says his research puts the 1.2-degree global figure in doubt... But a team of three climatologists has completed a study of Watts' data on HCN siting and found the warming trend to be confirmed.โ -literally from your article
7) At the end of the article, some guy named Menne: โWe wouldn't want to dismiss 100 years of climate records based on a photograph from the year 2009.โ
Yet its still winter
"Can be verified"
They prop up people like Greta to make a big clash, whilst actual scientists and workers are kept in the dark.
Lol
Near an AC vent, on an asphalt road, in the middle of the desert with nothing obscuring it.
Riiiiighhhht.
Why do I have to believe thatโs a sensor? And how does this address literally anything I just said?
Do you trust CNN lol?
No
Even if I did, thatโs irrelevant to whether this can be verified or not
How many square miles does each temperature sensors cover
@Citizen Z There aren't too many as they are very old sensors and meant to cover a lot of ground.
For the "pacific sensor" they put it on an airport terminal in hawaii, riiiightt.
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