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2019-03-13 20:22:56 UTC

gravity exerts a force on objects yes? that's easily observed by dropping something. therefore this same force must be exerted on everything including gases. as gases have mass they will be pulled in with the same force so that creates an atmosphere. i can't remember which book i read that mentioned it and explained it better than that but it was either "why does E=mc^2? (and why should we care)" by brian cox and jeff forshaw or "a brief history of time" by stephen hawking and the explanation is much better than anything i can remember off the top of my head

2019-03-13 21:02:40 UTC

The experiment is the fact that there is less air on top of Mount Everest than right next to the ocean

2019-03-13 21:02:46 UTC

And that is a fact

2019-03-13 21:02:59 UTC

^

2019-03-13 21:44:55 UTC

Can someone explain to me why the truther role is given to people who spread things that are not the truth? Im new to this conspiracy thing :-/

2019-03-13 23:17:50 UTC

i think jfk's head just did that

2019-03-13 23:46:16 UTC

Pornhub is a way for jews to record us wanking and if become rich they threaten release tape if dont pay them monthly

2019-03-14 03:08:38 UTC

The earth is round, Vaccines don't cause autism, The moon landing is real, And humans didn't originate from aliens

2019-03-14 03:09:11 UTC

Fight me πŸ…±

2019-03-14 03:09:25 UTC

You wish

2019-03-14 03:15:00 UTC

Well we don't wish, we know, it's called facts

2019-03-14 03:15:19 UTC

K show me your empirical data

2019-03-14 03:24:51 UTC

Scientists have proved all those things

2019-03-14 03:29:28 UTC

they've proved the moon landing is real?

2019-03-14 03:29:55 UTC

also what's the deal with alien genetics. how would you even prove that?

2019-03-14 03:31:04 UTC

Technically NASA scientists, yeah

2019-03-14 03:33:06 UTC

so it's just a claim then

2019-03-14 03:33:09 UTC

no actual proof

2019-03-14 03:42:07 UTC

They recorded the moon landing

2019-03-14 03:43:31 UTC

So you believe videos recorded off a TV screen?

2019-03-14 03:45:12 UTC

So you believe random people on the internet, instead of scientists and people that went to college, got a degree, and spent years trying to make it?

2019-03-14 03:45:30 UTC

No. I believe my own eyes.

2019-03-14 03:45:53 UTC

Name one scientist that measured the curve

2019-03-14 03:47:18 UTC

Have you ever been on a plane?

2019-03-14 03:47:27 UTC

Yes many times

2019-03-14 03:48:09 UTC

I guess you never got the window seat

2019-03-14 03:48:17 UTC

Plenty of times

2019-03-14 03:49:51 UTC

Now tell me, why don't you see all of Earth in an air plane?

2019-03-14 03:50:05 UTC

Horizon

2019-03-14 03:50:16 UTC

Optical slant

2019-03-14 03:50:24 UTC

So the Earth is round good job

2019-03-14 03:50:25 UTC

Visibility

2019-03-14 03:50:36 UTC

No. Its flat.

2019-03-14 03:50:42 UTC

Worth noting we also have video of a guy living on Mars

2019-03-14 03:50:43 UTC

You dont understand optics

2019-03-14 03:50:49 UTC

Damn, almost got him

2019-03-14 03:51:28 UTC

What do you mean about that?

2019-03-14 03:51:46 UTC

You should be able to see all of Earth, unless there's a lot of clouds.

2019-03-14 03:51:59 UTC

If it's flat

2019-03-14 04:11:17 UTC

Why does the sun go up/down if It's flat?

2019-03-14 04:11:31 UTC

Shouldn't it, go straight ahead?

2019-03-14 04:12:01 UTC

Or do you flat-earther's just not believe in timezones?

2019-03-14 05:22:36 UTC

You don't understand

2019-03-14 05:25:25 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/555622491045756948/tenor.gif

2019-03-14 05:25:32 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/555622522222018570/FEEarthBestProof.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/555622522939506690/giphy_8.gif

2019-03-14 05:25:43 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/555622569391423498/Flat_earth_sun_path.gif

2019-03-14 05:32:20 UTC

ok wtf

2019-03-14 05:32:30 UTC

globies explain the video

2019-03-14 05:32:56 UTC

pretty sure under the globe model it wouldn't be that drastic

2019-03-14 06:45:54 UTC

!rank

2019-03-14 06:45:55 UTC

сам Π³Ρ€Π΅Π±Π°Π½Ρ‹ΠΉ дьявол, this command is disabled in this channel. <:SMILESWEAT6:403540174069432320>

2019-03-14 06:46:03 UTC

Wait wrong server

2019-03-14 06:46:25 UTC

ok

2019-03-14 09:09:41 UTC

GUYS did you know that flat earth exists

2019-03-14 09:09:46 UTC

it's called a map

2019-03-14 16:39:39 UTC

if earth is flat why can't i see the sun in the night time

2019-03-14 16:40:17 UTC

Because the sun turns off

2019-03-14 16:40:19 UTC

smh

2019-03-14 16:40:47 UTC

but his model doesn't have the sun turn off lmao

2019-03-14 16:40:56 UTC

he's obviously not informed in the flat earths

2019-03-14 16:41:10 UTC

sun obviously turns of

2019-03-14 16:43:31 UTC

Ikr

2019-03-14 16:43:35 UTC

it has a switch

2019-03-14 16:43:47 UTC

that god(who is a woman) clicks every day

πŸ’‘

2019-03-14 16:48:22 UTC

earth ain't flat it a coke can

u smokin too much coke, yo...

2019-03-14 16:59:51 UTC

Earth is my arse

2019-03-14 17:05:38 UTC

I see

2019-03-14 17:14:23 UTC

so it is round

2019-03-14 21:03:50 UTC

Dr Phil is a cyborg

2019-03-15 04:01:53 UTC

but the world is a ball what you guys on

we're "on" Truth serums --lol..

2019-03-15 08:16:50 UTC

Alright, @lewis has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-03-15 15:44:34 UTC

Yo

2019-03-15 15:45:06 UTC

I would like to propose a theory

2019-03-15 15:45:21 UTC

Anyone open for discussion?

2019-03-15 15:48:23 UTC

yo

2019-03-15 15:48:42 UTC

@Anxiety Go ahead

2019-03-15 16:44:28 UTC

Sorry I was in class

2019-03-15 16:44:36 UTC

Yes are you still here?

2019-03-15 16:44:45 UTC

My theory still stands

2019-03-15 19:00:17 UTC

the earth be hella round

2019-03-15 19:05:49 UTC

*flat

2019-03-15 19:09:13 UTC

Who cares about you stupid nonces go subscribe to pewdiepie

2019-03-15 19:10:02 UTC

Lmao

2019-03-15 19:10:13 UTC

My theory is still open to discuss

2019-03-15 19:10:20 UTC

Who wants to hear it?

flat n round <:BigSmiles:556070613224259594> πŸ‘

2019-03-15 20:13:58 UTC

owo

2019-03-15 23:58:04 UTC

@Anxiety#0467 whats your theory

2019-03-15 23:58:18 UTC

Oh shit he's gone

2019-03-16 00:04:20 UTC

the earth is a donut and the sky we see above us is an ocean

2019-03-16 01:02:20 UTC

so i think my biggest problem that i can generally find with a conspiracy theory is how heavily misinformation is spread by a very vocal and small group of unqualified individuals with something that would generally be seen as stupid but then you get the people that sheep to the ideas. i'm not saying that we should believe everything that the government tells us because they do blatantly lie to our faces and we should do our own research but don't follow the research of a single side because anyone can make an experiment that disproves something but that doesn't mean the experiment works. for example one may deny the existence of gravity by saying why doesn't this pen break through a table to reach the ground? this means gravity is a hoax but that's not a valid experiment as the pen (unless it's ridiculously heavy so can break the table in a short drop which i personally haven't observed or heard of) as already reached a state of rest

2019-03-16 01:03:52 UTC

and yeah there is a lot of bias in the media. i forgot to include that point but it's biased on both sides of the media e.g. fox is biased favouring trump and cnn is biased against trump

2019-03-16 01:04:27 UTC

there's alternative explanations for why a pen 'falls'

2019-03-16 01:04:42 UTC

it's good to question things

2019-03-16 01:08:15 UTC

yeah it's good to question things. that's more or less my entire point but what other explanation is there for dropping a pen where the only possible effector is gravity (e.g. a room with no or few draughts which when a level is placed on the floor reads 0 degrees incline) and it will fall straight down

2019-03-16 01:08:26 UTC

wind only has minor effects on the actual fall

2019-03-16 02:25:03 UTC

<@340446994558353420> stop trolling. An observation on the sky doesn't prove the shape of your floor.

During a selenelion eclipse, the sun and moon can be seen above the horizon

2019-03-16 02:26:18 UTC

Selenelion

2019-03-16 02:26:28 UTC

Shadow comes from top

2019-03-16 02:26:31 UTC

<@340446994558353420> bye.

2019-03-16 02:26:50 UTC

!mute <@340446994558353420>

2019-03-16 02:26:50 UTC

Gamertwins3#4885 (340446994558353420) is now muted for '**Unspecified.**', alright? <:THUMBSUP6:403560443345371137>

2019-03-16 02:27:20 UTC

hey

2019-03-16 11:49:58 UTC

so basically the thing that we depend on for observation is incorrect? to observe something you have to provide an observer and the process of observing the behaviour or nature of object X requires an outside interaction otherwise it can't be observed in any capacity

2019-03-16 19:15:06 UTC

Alright, @pratty69 has been warned for '**Posted an invite**'.

2019-03-16 19:16:51 UTC

Shut up cracker

2019-03-16 19:32:20 UTC

@Koro 'conspiracy theory' was coined by the CIA, ask yourself why

2019-03-16 19:34:35 UTC

to inevitably sow dissent in the people due to it being weaponized by the government to isolate a group of people so the population doesn't notice problems at large

2019-03-16 19:34:53 UTC

and what relevance does that have to my point?

2019-03-16 19:36:39 UTC

my point is that for you to see something you need to have light projected onto it to "bounce back" frequencies that it "absorbs" (inverted commas is representing me dumbing down terminology for ease of reading) and the same goes for observing particles or collisions. if i collide 2 protons it's their interaction that gives us something to observe

2019-03-16 19:37:14 UTC

is there a conspiracy to divide people by race, politics, gender, medicine, religion, etc?

2019-03-16 19:39:02 UTC

probably and also doing a little bit of research i can find no mention of the cia using the term. it may have been first said by them but it was not defined by them

2019-03-16 19:39:47 UTC

many people acknowledge the existence of political dissidence, but there are also other forms of dissidence not limited to spiritual dissidence and scientific dissidence

2019-03-16 19:41:32 UTC

yeah i think that a lot of "conspiracy theories" aren't conspiracy theories at all they're often rather factual but the government will deny it e.g. government deception

2019-03-16 19:42:18 UTC

that's why we should redefine this conspiracy

2019-03-16 19:42:28 UTC

by saying possible conspiracy instead of "conspiracy theory"

2019-03-16 19:42:34 UTC

because we know it is possible

2019-03-16 19:44:10 UTC

like false history isn't really a theory it's more or less true, for example the resistance of the polish in ww2 was lied about. a good example of how that was lied about it the battle of wizna and any other occurrence where it was advantageous to lie. the phrase "history is written by the victor" is the perfect example tbh

2019-03-16 19:44:55 UTC

The earth is flat

2019-03-16 19:44:59 UTC

Done

2019-03-16 19:45:25 UTC

If the earth was round, fetus's would fly off the table

2019-03-16 19:55:23 UTC

did you know that most mental disorder diagnoses are just based on clusters of symptoms?

2019-03-16 20:06:38 UTC

@eztaylor Lets talk about it here

2019-03-16 20:12:56 UTC

yesh

2019-03-16 21:28:23 UTC

Here is fine

2019-03-16 23:49:57 UTC

yoooo i literally came here to get woke and everyone is a round earther as far as i can tell. can someone please explain to me why the earth is flat as I'm having doubts about the round earth model. it just doesn't make sense

2019-03-17 00:40:46 UTC

@Santa's Spy goto <#484516084846952451> roon. Check pinned msgs

2019-03-17 00:41:19 UTC

Cheers

2019-03-17 00:43:18 UTC

Is there one for round earth as well so I can get both sides of the argument?

2019-03-17 00:44:09 UTC
2019-03-17 00:44:25 UTC

I don’t wanna be called biased by either side

2019-03-17 01:05:18 UTC

@A Search for Roche's Rifle Bruh I agree, people only way to defend themselves is with guns, tanks and so on,
politicians will try to do everything to take that power away from normal guys πŸ‘Œ

2019-03-17 08:19:33 UTC

The Earth is a simulation because I have seen the motherboard It's my neegas

2019-03-17 08:20:00 UTC

btw neeg is my preferred pronoun

2019-03-17 08:20:10 UTC

neega is what I use for those familiar to me

2019-03-17 18:25:49 UTC

+

2019-03-17 18:25:56 UTC

+

2019-03-17 19:30:25 UTC

Mingau...Our constitution in the United States is based on our First Amendment rights the only way to protect the First Amendment rights is with our Second Amendment ability to defend ourselves with life liberty and the pursuit of happiness against all agents foreign end domestic

2019-03-17 19:31:09 UTC

Adolf Hitler and all the dictators there is something called the first law of take over and that first law is number one first disarm the public if you disarm the public they have no recourse to fight you

2019-03-17 19:31:23 UTC

@Namatic πŸ‘Œ

2019-03-17 19:34:23 UTC
2019-03-17 21:04:29 UTC

obamacare turned me gay

2019-03-17 21:40:00 UTC

turned a bunch of people gay

2019-03-17 21:48:14 UTC

endocrine disrupting chemical exposure made the fetus gay

2019-03-17 21:48:25 UTC

bc of lower testosterone in men

2019-03-17 21:56:19 UTC

ur gay if you take vaccines

2019-03-17 21:58:46 UTC

nah, you mean if you drink BPA

2019-03-17 22:10:57 UTC

I recommend that all of you guys in here start drinking only distilled water it will purify and take toxins out of your system and is the purest water you can get the stuff that is called filtered water is garbage

2019-03-17 22:24:10 UTC

I'll add some essential minerals to it with some pure sodium chloride

2019-03-17 22:24:32 UTC

to filter water, preferebly do it with high quality filters. Meaning big filters like Big Berkey.

2019-03-17 22:24:52 UTC

furthermore, water fluoridation should be banned in the US as it already has been in the EU

2019-03-17 23:41:48 UTC

Yes other than distilled water I’ve got a big Berkey water filter with four filters and it makes the water taste pretty darn good and filters out most of the garbage

2019-03-18 00:42:03 UTC

If this isn't the place for this question, or not an appropriate discussion topic, please tell me.

2019-03-18 00:55:09 UTC

@Despato i believe it was CIA executed and children where just ritualistically sacrificed to push an agenda, maybe in a school, maybe not either way children where murdered

2019-03-18 01:07:48 UTC

Hmm. To me it looked like some organization was trying to appear is if a mass shooting had happened, but had not actually murdered anyone in order to push an agenda, likely a gun-grabbing one. Either way, there was a fair bit of evidence of something was not right. There was plenty of holes in the story and very contradictory evidence.

2019-03-18 04:16:57 UTC

What if we are in a simulation

2019-03-18 06:00:13 UTC

Hello, flat Earthers.

2019-03-18 06:00:18 UTC

I come in peace.

2019-03-18 06:12:16 UTC

hello

2019-03-18 06:12:26 UTC

this is not just a flat earth server

2019-03-18 06:12:31 UTC

we can discuss everything here

2019-03-18 19:12:49 UTC

you guys discuss with people that aren't flatearthers/truthers or whatever?

2019-03-18 19:20:38 UTC

isn't pure water less beneficial than well water because of the ions and minerals?

2019-03-18 19:21:03 UTC

i ain't a flat earther @Whistler

2019-03-18 19:34:11 UTC

ok

2019-03-18 19:36:18 UTC

why is the climate propaganda locked?

2019-03-18 20:54:28 UTC

Distilled water IS PURE as it gets....pulls toxins from the body and helps purify it

2019-03-18 21:31:55 UTC

umm

2019-03-18 21:32:03 UTC

dont think thats how it works

2019-03-18 21:33:21 UTC

Can someone explain the purpose of chemtrails

2019-03-18 21:33:31 UTC

Is it a weather controller or something else?

2019-03-18 21:37:22 UTC

it's basically a load of photoshopped crap or fire planes

2019-03-18 21:37:39 UTC

if anyone can show me anything otherwise be my guest

2019-03-18 21:39:20 UTC

here is the explanation

2019-03-18 21:39:54 UTC

people think the trail of water vapor that follows high altitude planes are 'toxins'

2019-03-18 21:40:13 UTC

Ok.....then what

2019-03-18 21:41:01 UTC

so then it leads to people thinking the government is poisoning the air supply.

2019-03-18 21:42:23 UTC

For........

2019-03-18 21:46:32 UTC

can you give more context?

2019-03-18 21:48:49 UTC

the government spends thousands of dollars to load planes with chemicals to poison its people despite no one ever seeing any of these chemicals on a plane ever but the government wants its workforce and tax base to die

2019-03-18 21:49:45 UTC

well

2019-03-18 21:49:58 UTC

no, its literally water vapor

2019-03-18 21:50:42 UTC

plus, there is no reason for that

2019-03-18 21:51:21 UTC

^

2019-03-18 21:51:57 UTC

There is no reason for chem trials?

2019-03-18 21:59:28 UTC

nope

2019-03-18 21:59:39 UTC

its just a side effect of the plane

2019-03-18 23:17:44 UTC

Thanks snowflake

2019-03-19 04:01:23 UTC

Australia exists

2019-03-19 04:01:40 UTC

Why wouldnt it?

2019-03-19 07:04:31 UTC

there is a homophobic christian wedged in my left toenail and i can hear him on his megaphone screaming about how god is sending the gays to hell

2019-03-19 07:04:44 UTC

he is purple and his name is lewis

2019-03-19 13:52:24 UTC

I've never understood seasons on a flat earth model. Can someone explain

2019-03-19 14:07:29 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/557565812991328257/A1V01B57VaL_1-1-1.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/557565813624930314/Screenshot_20190122-200941_Gallery.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/557565813624930316/reality.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/557565814224584714/Screenshot_20190122-200954_Gallery.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/557565814224584715/Screenshot_20190122-201032_Gallery.jpg

2019-03-19 15:33:56 UTC

so to refer to "THE SUN'S PATH OVER FLAT EARTH" image: how does that allow for night? if you give me a model that shows a ball of light traveling around the earth in a circular motion i'm going to ask you to explain how a ball of light shines a light as if it were being shone out of a torch not a ball of light

2019-03-19 15:41:02 UTC

Huh

2019-03-19 15:42:09 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/557589638638993423/FEEarthBestProof.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/557589639788101633/giphy_8.gif

2019-03-19 15:47:07 UTC

ok so that first model is really difficult to tell what's actually going on and in the second model a similar question arises. the moon is visible through out the night and with the model that i'm seeing in the second one where the sun isn't visible neither will the moon be and with that model the sun just has a cut off point where it decides: nah i'm not going to shine on this section of the globe

2019-03-19 16:05:52 UTC

@Koro its not a globe

2019-03-19 16:06:02 UTC

Lol wtf are you ok?

2019-03-19 16:06:48 UTC

so hang on a second, ur saying that it's not a globe and fair enough. if it's not a globe disprove what i've said

2019-03-19 16:11:09 UTC

That flashlight on a marble is a terrible analogy of the sun and globe

2019-03-19 16:12:15 UTC

yup

2019-03-19 16:38:55 UTC

It works just fine.

2019-03-19 16:39:38 UTC

@Koro prove curvature. Show me a direct measurement confirming a globe

2019-03-19 16:39:53 UTC

before i do anything of the sort prove your model

2019-03-19 16:40:24 UTC

as i'm not going to have something sprung on me because you end up loosing an argument

2019-03-19 16:40:44 UTC

It doesn't work. A flashlight to a marble isnt to scale

2019-03-19 16:41:26 UTC

Idk why you need to think something has to be close to give a planet light

2019-03-19 16:44:26 UTC

^

2019-03-19 16:49:16 UTC

You cant prove the curve.

2019-03-19 16:49:22 UTC

I dont need a model

2019-03-19 16:49:32 UTC

I know the surface is flat

2019-03-19 16:49:41 UTC

Not a ball

2019-03-19 16:50:00 UTC

You are the ones that need a belief system and a fake model

2019-03-19 16:50:30 UTC

I dont know how everything works while you guys sit there and pretend you do

2019-03-19 16:50:41 UTC

But i can prove flat earth

2019-03-19 16:50:54 UTC

You can't prove your magic space ball

2019-03-19 16:51:23 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/557607061131624505/generate_a_panorama_-_2016-07-24_02-28-50.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/557607061131624511/image-42-1-1.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/557607061802975242/image-38.jpg

2019-03-19 16:51:25 UTC

ngl it looks pretty curved to me

2019-03-19 16:51:36 UTC

What looks curved?

2019-03-19 16:51:55 UTC

Your CGI space ball?

2019-03-19 16:52:11 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/557607265130119178/image0-1.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/557607265130119181/Screenshot_20190203-030019_Chrome.jpg

2019-03-19 16:52:33 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/557607356112830504/Screenshot_20190208-141524_Discord.jpg

2019-03-19 16:52:45 UTC

It looks so fake it must be real

2019-03-19 16:54:17 UTC

no I know it's an edited composite photo

2019-03-19 16:54:31 UTC

I mean when I look out onto the horizon and see the curve

2019-03-19 16:54:33 UTC

from the ground

2019-03-19 16:54:35 UTC

so now we're going off of "I know the surface is flat" the second image looks like it's been take at a very specific time of the day: low tide where the water becomes the closest it can be to truly flat

2019-03-19 16:54:55 UTC

None of that has to do with your bs marble and flash lightπŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

2019-03-19 16:55:14 UTC

Comon snowflake

2019-03-19 16:55:28 UTC

that's what the vast majority of these are: low tides being photographed and also the curvature calculator just uses an average curvature so it's not a good way to calculate the curve

2019-03-19 16:57:01 UTC

Being on the top of a mountain and looking at tops of mountains doesn't prove its flat. The math works from ground level

2019-03-19 17:12:44 UTC

hello i study quantum mechanic and space at an university

2019-03-19 17:12:50 UTC

am I being brainwashd

2019-03-19 17:33:42 UTC

@April you see the curve from the ground? Where?

2019-03-19 17:34:24 UTC

@Dio Joestar the math doesnt work for the globe.

2019-03-19 17:34:29 UTC

Try again.

2019-03-19 17:34:40 UTC

8 inches per mile squared.

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