🤔 survival of the fittest isnt excepted

Leave and watch

Please

I never said that—I said Darwinism isn't. Which it isn't.

I'm going to augue with Kevin

Yo Kevin

A'ight.

@^Kevin^

I don't think you can leave and watch

Ever heard of a genetic desires

Desiease

yea, there is genetic disease

STD's aren't genetic

Bracuse that comes from something called a mutation

Some mutations are good

none of this matters, you trying to prove we came from apes?

Some are bad

no one says we come from apes

I think king thomas is stepping towards that argument

like in chess, I see the chess board 5 moves deep

You see suvival of the fightest means the strongest mutation survives

not nessarly

No over a long period of time you get what people call adaptions

Oh fuck me you are both wrong

omo

BE QUIET

PLEASE

genetics do mutate over time, why people change based on their environment

🤔

I AM GIVING A LECTURE

but people don't become different species

a bad one

Be quiet

snails don't become cats

RESPECT YOUR TEACHER

And be quiet

BE QUEIT

SHUT THE FUCJ UP

thomas. stfu

you've already made unscientific claims lmao

this is a public discord server

I'm giving the lecture and I don't want to be interrupted

a) its bad b) its a public discord server, deal with it

you look at your profile, your not a professor

And

telling people to STFU isn't going to make you one

I nkow

But I expect common fucking curtesy

Species don't change in their own lifetime Kevin, it happens during meiosis.

people want to increase their level and they don't do it by being quiet

we have only been on this planet 6 K years

hehe

Way longer

No one gives a shit about level

I think you would find

not sure what you are thinking about this meiosis but current scientists who think we have been here for longer are clueless

Your wrong

Why

You mean all scientists?

any scientists who think we have been here longer than 6 to 10 K years

Well I can't explain beacouse every one is interrupting me

you know how long it would take 2 people, say adam or eve to produce 7 billion + people?

<:smart:484956754489376781>

Wow so now you’re calling every single biologist in the world clueless. Good job.

"adam or even"

Maybe the Bible is wrong

...

Well it would sure take a lot longer than 6000 years.

Oki Kevin can we augue in dms please

lets presume the new testament is BS, old testament is valid

That’s a big presumption.

Kevin can I fm you please so I don't have to deal with them

. . . No. None of will accept that premise lmao

*dm

king thomas, as the professor everyone wants to talk

What Thomas is trying to say is that, over long spans time, hundreds or thousands of generations, these tiny genetic changes can and will add up to massive changes, sometimes changing the organism into something completely different.

I can't help being popular, don't hate me ;/

Active people with opposing views tend to be. Active people in general tend to be popular.

Fine I won't augue with you

I just popped in to say you are both wrong

in 33 generations you could have 8 billion people on the planet

No

if no one did any murdering/war, and there was no disease

Assuming nobody dies before having children.

taking those into account, it takes longer

And assuming none of these children die.

This is why I need a lecture hall

in roughly 660 years, given 2 people turns into 8 + billion

2 to the 33rd power

**Also remember that the population does NOT double each generation!**

and you have massive wars

~~Popped in to confirm both of you are fucking absurd, and reading this is an exercise in self-harm~~

and plague

and various other forms of death

8,589,934,592

The population does not double each generation, so your entire premise is wrong.

so if you can get that many people in 33 generations and presuming a 20 year per generation cycle

that is 660 years

@The18thDoctor kevin doesnt care

um, 18thdoctor, do you know how big families were in the early days

ummm do you know how many people died

even in 3rd world countries today they expect kids to die, so they have many children to offset that loss

Yeah, only one or two surviving children.

not always, sometimes there is more

and you arent taking into accout other forms of death

like plague, war, famine, etc

aviable food

anyhows, the point is that saying stuff about current birth rates and trying to project them into the past as if that was how they did things is patently false and obviously a fallacy

Kevin you haven't accounted for death rate, infertility, or anything at all other than birth. Your calculation is dumb as heck.

IF ThEy HaD 2o KIdS mY CalCUlatIoNS WoRK

Sometimes. For the population to double, every single person needs to marry and have four children that all survive long enough to have kids.

your missing the point

Mind not insulting Kevin

which is what I was getting to

See this is why people shouldn't interrupt other people

660 years is not account for all the death, and all the extraneous stuff like war disease and murder that hinders people thriving

So what you have, at best, is a proof of concept.

so a little less than 10 times that amount to compensate for all the death, murder, disease, plagues, and weather like lightning and heart attacks

cancer

in 6 K years its possible, I would say probable, that people could go from 2 people to 7 billion, not even 8 billion people on this flat earth

That’s a mighty big assumption to be making, that a factor of ten accounts for all of that.

I rest my case unless I hear objections

i dont think anyone argues that there could be 8 billion people in 6000 years

its also not 8.5 billion, its 7.5 billion people on the planet, so its more than 10 X in compensation

You have been this whole time you just don't listen

Objection: According to my calculations, only two children from each family would survive to have children when accounting for death and disease, so the population should stay the same.

And it would take an extremely long amount of time to grow to 7.5 billion.

population has been growing and continues to grow

china did some radical laws to try to mitigate growth because they saw in the long run they were going to have mass starvation

kevin, this is a useless point, no one argues we can have a population of 8 billion people

Records, actual historical evidence, shows that until a couple hundred years ago, the increase in population was very, very slow.

people were argueing with me until my awesome debating skills proved them without a doubt that I was right

that is how you win a debate people

no one wants to argue with the professor

I’ve presented two objections that you have ignored.

I didn't ignore your objection, I just finished saying population is growing

its not staying the same, your objection that its not growing and staying the same is in error

Thanks to modern medicine. Whereupon we come to my second objection.

you didn't even make your 2nd objection yet

lets not put the horse before the cart

and sanatation

so you admit your first objection was a red herring to led credence to this next bogus objection

are you going to come up with any valid objections

Records, actual historical evidence, shows that until a couple hundred years ago, the increase in population was very, very slow.

sanatation was a huge improvement

my 10 X time factor takes that into account

sanitation was severely lacking but is much better

at least in some places, in india you still have 1 billion people shitting in the street

severely lacking? you mean none exsistance

in the past

people knew about bathing, just didn't do it as much in the past as they do now

You ignore counter points and ramble that's why no one l Iikes debating you

*pokes nat*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Roman_bathing

Such was the importance of baths to Romans that a catalogue of buildings in Rome from 354 AD documented 952 baths of varying sizes in the city.

... yes i know the ancient romans like to bath

i been to several roman baths

Not because you convince anyone but because you are already convinced if your own greatness

are you saying I'm not awesome Big lover or you talking to someone else?

including a city called Bath

that whole graph is off

In addition to archaeological evidence, there are fossils and bones of humans that have been dated to be far older than the 6000 years.

Kevin

if we been on this planet 6 K years, then you have to project to like 4 K BC with 2 people

coo

l

How are u a professor if you don't have a lecture hall

It's like a teacher without a class room

we had thousands of people around during the romans

he's probably a troll

thousands upon thousands

He's saying really dumb stuff

Or a lumberjack without a Forrest

I'd say don't take him seriously

and I'm saying this as a flat earther so

Y don't nkow what I'm on about

He is a proffesor within the server

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZa26_esLBE

So where's your lecture hall ?

I think me and citizen are the only 2 professors on this server currently

I want to become a proffesor

Yeah your whole reasoning is incredibly circular..

You start with your conclusion, that the Earth is 6000 years old, and then you try to find evidence that supports it, while completely ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

So where's your lecture hall

no kidding

nah, even citizen Z didn't give himself the title

so I'm the only one

Where's your lecture hall

my lecture hall is where-ever I choose to lecture

welcome to the classroom

That’s not how science works. You must start with the evidence and an unbiased, open mind. Then you draw conclusions from the evidence, using all the evidence available to make your claim. Whatever you do, ***do not start with the conclusion!***

HaloNest was a professor

and like any proffessor people fall alseep in class

what happened to HaloNest then?

Not a very good class room if your interrupted every 5 seconds

he was banned

but he was irl

okay

In real life I'm not a professor

I'm a martial arts expert

I'm pretty sure he's an ancient hebrew professor

kewl

and a translator

<---reformed jewish

no he's not jewish

he just learned the language

ah

Not a very good classroom if your interrupted every 5 seconds

yea, I know no hebrew, didn't bother with the 13th year celebration

I know very little hebrew actually, I did go to camp for a few years

they spoke hebrew there a little

he knows about 10 langs

Not a very good class room if your interrupted every 5 seconds

impressive

he's actually getting famous with his globe earth society discord

Atheist

which is mockery to us

but I've heard him debate and I respect him

Not a very good class room if your interrupted every 5 seconds

whatever, he's on the wrong side of the debate if he's not a flat earther

its like taking the positoin that suicide is good, its a losing position

truth will come out

then you look like a fool

Not a very good class room if your interrupted every 5 seconds

do you think I'm giving a lecture?

if I'm typing like mad then you'll know I'm lecturing

I'm relaxing and responding to people

https://www.google.com/amp/s/relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/2018/01/oldest-human-outside-africa-discovered-fossil-jaw-israel-science @^Kevin^

What's a class room without a teacher but just a room

it's a class room without a teacher

It's a room

no?

at universities it's plenty of class room without teachers

you go there to study

Most likely a very loud room beacouse it has 50 students shouting at each over like mad men

desks and tables are what makes rooms a classroom

no, it's not the jungle

I said university

Well for some reason this is not like a university

so what

I want a fucking university and I'll fucking work till it becomes one

don't care

Don't need you to care

don't care either

This is becoming a child's game

it has

since you made up the class room batshit

Have I