#conspiracy-discussion (Discord ID: 484515890759729182) in The Ice Wall, page 2

not towards kids

you misrepresent cause

butthurt af

`You’ll never be back on 24/7`

dude I left that shithole for a reason

when you cant ban, you leave

Was War Vet on team horse or cow?

Team horse.

Cow was the correct choice, cows have less bite force and no front teeth

Ha

Gottem

Cow is a good choice for food.

But Horse ribs.

🤤

Is this a meme or a real rural American food

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm gonna assume Americans eat horse now

They don't.

I just do.

Ice wall

Horse meat is generally low in fat

Very tough

Good stuff.

tanks

hehehehe

Tanks with rockets.

@[Ex-Mitch] 21.2.19

What?

Hello

What good?

Flat earth more like dab earth amirite?

Cool moon pics =)

😁

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Rip meme war vet

Wow that was a train wreck of a conversation

True.

>all globe earthers have nothing but lies and attacks
>uses nothing but lies and attacks

He seems like a lovely guy

Some of the 24/7 flat earth members didn't want to be here cause of well.

You know.

Because people might disagree with them and they can’t ban them

True.

Which is sad.

From what I have been hearing 24/7 is it?

It doesn't seem logic-friendly

That's one way of putting it.

It’s a garbage server

Full of FE mods so anyone who disagrees with them gets piled on and then banned

I haven't ever been there

FE mods also means they post all these proofs that modern science is wrong that are full of lies but nobody is allowed to call them out for it

I'm assuming it isn't worth it?

Save your sanity

Stay out

If you scroll up, that meme war vet guy is an admin there

What a shame

I’m not kidding, the more crazy you are, the higher you get ranked there

Lmao

Flat earth included though right?

It was a train wreck, puppy.
When you have to use aggressive personal attacks, you already lost

People are too much into the echo chamber they have created to care about the truth

Literally everything he said there is a lie

What does being an atheist have to do with common sense?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean, you aren't wrong.

All Atheists are retarded and autistic

I just noticed that they left

He can’t handle people questioning him

What a coward

“Reeeeee you’re all wrong and liars and I’m right with my pseudoscience and lack of a functioning model”
*quits*

😂

He contradicts himself so bad

Just saying stuff that they can't back up

I would love to see these trolls that he allegedly converted to FE

I want to debate them now

To see how fast I can get banned

>we don't ban anyone for different opinions

Honestly, just don’t go in there

^

There is nothing for you there

I won't

It'd take like 2 mins

Been warned by a lot of people

Including flat earthers

I've seen people literally get put in detention fo debating

Detention?

School all over again

Yeah it's basically a gulag where the mods send you abusive messages

It’s not detention, it’s “cognitive dissonance” where they force you to read a ton of flat earth material before they let you out

>we don't ban for different opinions we just ban people for "affirming beliefs are facts"
>Literally proceeds to call everyone retarded if they don't believe what he believes

Literally the most patronising thing I’ve ever seen

They have a detention room too, pup

And a reading room

Indoctrination that's the right way to do it

They have 3 jails lmao

I mean you would say that puppy, considering your condition

Do they? Huh

Yeah

I’m really behind the times apparently

Detention, reading,cog dis

And you have to read kings dethroned and get quizzed to get out

They give you timeouts for swearing

I mean legit wtf

I just know because I've been in all of those rooms :')

I guess discord mods are all gay

And half the mods from there are now mods here 😄

Is it true that 24/7 is sexist?

Probs

I mean

It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest

Not the servee

Server

Some particular retards have sexist and anti-Semitic and homophobic thoughts but it's not the whole server
I don't think it wise to paint the server sexist because of some particular retards

🍿

Like a few mods are chill
Others aren't

I hope the feeling isn't shared with the whole server or it would make it worse

It is not

True, like Matrix and others.

Matrix is chill af

I know.

Men

Anyways

I'm going to try and get some sleep after my bath

Maybe relieve some back pain tomorrow as well

Realtively high number of women in the FE community if I'm being honest

Don’t forget Indio with his “all science is pseudoscience” thing

Really? I’ve literally only seen Debbie and greyson

Night, thanks for stopping by. @AgentNoPony

Goodnight

Oh yeah Indio is big on that but he isn't a cunt

Don’t forget the YouTube videos

Like where he took one clip out of context and concluded “rockets don’t work in a vacuum”

@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS eh? Nah there are more men

I think he is in cog dis himself

But not a cunt, unlike some people there

But people there rely too much on power, most can't handle a discussion if they don't have the power to ban the other person

And that gets on my nerves the most

Then they also proceed to call others snowflakes😂

“Can’t disprove his actual science? Call him indoctrinated and force him to read a bunch of shitty books”

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>globies are indoctrinated
>Watch all these yt videos and be a flat earther
Isn't that indoctrination too

Don't hate on them so much

I try not to

I don't hate them

Then they post shit like this

They have a few points about how science is hard and really insular

And that's fair

There’s nothing wrong with finding it hard

I like most of them when I talk to them as people but I'll have to criticise them for being dishonest

Science is hard

But the correct reaction is “let me go and make the effort to learn it” not, “all of science is wrong because I don’t understand it”

But just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's a lie

And if they say that then they need to be called out on it

Oh god

That pic

How many fucking times

I mean I don't know how gravity works, I have to have faith in the scientific method. The difference is I understand the way the scientific method works and the inbuilt accountability

Every so called debunking I’ve seen has revolved around completely misunderstanding it

There is no connection between shape of the earth and evolution

“If gravity is real why don’t people get attracted to each other on the street” etc

Lmao

That’s a classic Derek one there

I got attracted to people on the street, it's just because I'm really lonely though

Gravity is complex, nat but the most basic concepts of it are not that hard, like you know, it being dependent on mass

Or why do birds fly

And if you don't get it then science probably isn't for you and that's fine but then you also don't get to call people liars and retards just because they understand something you don't

If you draw a simple free body diagram you’ll see that having weight and being able to fly aren’t mutually exclusive

It’s sad

It's terrifying that only arguements against gravity are "why does a helium balloon float" and why do people don't just smash into each other

We need to make science more inclusive and understandable, to get rid of the idea it's just white dudes in labcoats. That's what will help this issue of being against science

You can’t teach someone who doesn’t want to learn

It is inclusive..

It just takes effort to learn like literally everything else

It’s almost as though it’s taught in literally every school on the planet

Nah you need to make it relevant to people

Also if anyone thinks it's just white dudes in labcoats, they need a reality check

It is relevant

You can't force feed

If you want to learn you can

But you can make it easier and disguise the learning

Like how documentaries have stories and aren't just reading Wikipedia pages

Like literally everything else? Yeah we are finding better ways to make it understand to as much people as possible

You can make something simpler nat but you can't change how someone thinks
They think the whole of science is bad and devilish and won't make any effort whatsoever to understand it

You can't help that no matter how simple you make it

Like someone who said schools should teach you to use critical thinking and the thing is, it does

Mostly

If science isn't critical thinking then what is

They don't get how science works, they think scientists just take an assumption and run with it and make theories
They don't know and don't want to know that scientists repeatedly try to debunk their own theories

Almost like they have to misrepresent it inorder to suit their narattive

The amount of times I’ve seen “X is really just a theory!” Is saddening

It's no one's fault except them

Yep

Its the most basic shit
You have to know the difference between a theory (idea) and a scientific theory and need to learn how hypothesis becomes theory in science, most of them have no idea and have stopped even trying to learn

Then they complain about science not being transparent...
No ones stopping you from learning how science works
It's probably the most transparent shit out there

A lot of people seem to get stuck in the whole “if I can’t repeat it myself then it’s wrong”

Which rules out anything that requires more than a couple hundred dollars of equipment or materials even remotely hazardous

But the issue is, most of the stuff they complain about can be easily repeated by themselves

Most if not all

CAVENDISH

And the fact that they call everyone shill who does the said experiment is sad.. they are just normal people like you and me

And they get called shills and agents because they bothered to do something flat earthers didn't

They spent so much money on FECORE to do it badly..

They don't even need as much money or fancy equipment to verify basic things like you know, getting a couple fe on different parts of earth

Literally what sly did

But no why not shoot yourself in the face with a laser

And that actually happened

>FE: here’s a video demonstrating the crazy effects of refraction across a lake
>also FE: this laser proves flat earth WITH ZERO REFRACTION BECAUSE WE SAID SO

@xXPuppyLoverXx https://youtu.be/ydMavxTNhWg

What an idiot 😂

I'd really like to know who that is

I believe he goes by Johnny mcBraincancer now

Lmao

....they could have conducted a better experiment from literally their homes

But how will they make a misleading documentary then?

🔥

I'd like to start seriously debating what, why, and how we can explore extra sensory perceptions, the life styles, mindsets and communities best for such progressions, and what materialistic things may be needed.

Personally I’m hoping to build a series of log cabins, close to open seas/rivers leading to the sea; along with a houseboat. With hopes of farming/fishing for most my food while slowly building up a small economy/trade based community. Ideally I want provide people the opportunity to explore spirituality without dogma; giving them a place and purpose to work/relax as they explore reality.

With my background in Electro-mechanical engineering and robotics/computer programing and experience in carpentry and the labour feild. I hope to automate much of the day to day work over time, and ideally market this “place” in 3 tiers. The labour force who work on expanding the community; Caretakers who provide support during sessions; Explorers who take substances etc for spiritual progression. “Most” people will ideally spend time in at least 2 of the 3 roles, but the hopes are to collectively harness these divine gifts and explore/expand our capabilities while providing a growing community to support more.

Mr. J!

oh boy

By God, you’re alive

😉 not yet, i'm spiriutaly dead but growing closer

😂

Keep on keeping on

😄 i'm working again so progress within this matrix is coming along

Cause this type of thing never ends well

so who's up to collectibly rent out a house/fishing boat and sail around the south pole to "see" how small it is?

me

only thing is, we gotta bring a shit load of shrooms

J, these types of communities have been done a lot. There are a few problems. The biggest is keeping the population stable

I can totally eat shrooms. If you need someone to eat them....

It usually last for 1 generation

😉 that i will @Sparkles after all its no fun tripping by your self

And I'm a pretty great fisherman, but a girl.

well @DrPeper the thing is i'm not starting this thing as a stay for life kinda thing, mostly just renting out places for people to spend vacations, and offering some services if they so wish.

Ah

Sounds pretty great to me.

Excuse me, Your vessel is pathetic

😄 well unless we get another greyson event (server closing) i'll be here along the way till the day and beyond its coming into reality

Still have a similar problem of getting people for the community to work

I will bring an Icebreaker and a crew of 5 Filipino Mercenaries

Together we will accomplish the unthinkable.

😹 as long as one of them dosen't mind helping me cook I'd love to

I mean, maybe

I have 5 kids that do almost anything I say. Just let them play fortnite when they have free time.