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2018-08-31 07:57:21 UTC

Then they post shit like this

2018-08-31 07:57:25 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515890759729182/484995110233309185/image.jpg

2018-08-31 07:57:30 UTC

They have a few points about how science is hard and really insular

2018-08-31 07:57:38 UTC

And that's fair

2018-08-31 07:57:51 UTC

Thereโ€™s nothing wrong with finding it hard

2018-08-31 07:57:52 UTC

I like most of them when I talk to them as people but I'll have to criticise them for being dishonest

2018-08-31 07:58:01 UTC

Science is hard

2018-08-31 07:58:18 UTC

But the correct reaction is โ€œlet me go and make the effort to learn itโ€ not, โ€œall of science is wrong because I donโ€™t understand itโ€

2018-08-31 07:58:25 UTC

But just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's a lie

2018-08-31 07:58:42 UTC

And if they say that then they need to be called out on it

2018-08-31 07:59:32 UTC

Oh god

2018-08-31 07:59:34 UTC

That pic

2018-08-31 07:59:39 UTC

How many fucking times

2018-08-31 07:59:40 UTC

I mean I don't know how gravity works, I have to have faith in the scientific method. The difference is I understand the way the scientific method works and the inbuilt accountability

2018-08-31 07:59:43 UTC

Every so called debunking Iโ€™ve seen has revolved around completely misunderstanding it

2018-08-31 07:59:55 UTC

There is no connection between shape of the earth and evolution

2018-08-31 08:00:00 UTC

โ€œIf gravity is real why donโ€™t people get attracted to each other on the streetโ€ etc

2018-08-31 08:00:17 UTC

Lmao

2018-08-31 08:00:27 UTC

Thatโ€™s a classic Derek one there

2018-08-31 08:00:27 UTC

I got attracted to people on the street, it's just because I'm really lonely though

2018-08-31 08:01:08 UTC

Gravity is complex, nat but the most basic concepts of it are not that hard, like you know, it being dependent on mass

2018-08-31 08:01:15 UTC

Or why do birds fly

2018-08-31 08:02:09 UTC

And if you don't get it then science probably isn't for you and that's fine but then you also don't get to call people liars and retards just because they understand something you don't

2018-08-31 08:02:17 UTC

If you draw a simple free body diagram youโ€™ll see that having weight and being able to fly arenโ€™t mutually exclusive

2018-08-31 08:02:19 UTC

Itโ€™s sad

2018-08-31 08:03:08 UTC

It's terrifying that only arguements against gravity are "why does a helium balloon float" and why do people don't just smash into each other

2018-08-31 08:03:50 UTC

We need to make science more inclusive and understandable, to get rid of the idea it's just white dudes in labcoats. That's what will help this issue of being against science

2018-08-31 08:04:13 UTC

You canโ€™t teach someone who doesnโ€™t want to learn

2018-08-31 08:04:33 UTC

It is inclusive..

2018-08-31 08:04:48 UTC

It just takes effort to learn like literally everything else

2018-08-31 08:05:13 UTC

Itโ€™s almost as though itโ€™s taught in literally every school on the planet

2018-08-31 08:05:34 UTC

Nah you need to make it relevant to people

2018-08-31 08:05:36 UTC

Also if anyone thinks it's just white dudes in labcoats, they need a reality check

2018-08-31 08:05:41 UTC

It is relevant

2018-08-31 08:05:46 UTC

You can't force feed

2018-08-31 08:05:55 UTC

If you want to learn you can

2018-08-31 08:06:10 UTC

But you can make it easier and disguise the learning

2018-08-31 08:06:37 UTC

Like how documentaries have stories and aren't just reading Wikipedia pages

2018-08-31 08:06:47 UTC

Like literally everything else? Yeah we are finding better ways to make it understand to as much people as possible

2018-08-31 08:07:47 UTC

You can make something simpler nat but you can't change how someone thinks
They think the whole of science is bad and devilish and won't make any effort whatsoever to understand it

2018-08-31 08:07:58 UTC

You can't help that no matter how simple you make it

2018-08-31 08:09:11 UTC

Like someone who said schools should teach you to use critical thinking and the thing is, it does

2018-08-31 08:09:13 UTC

Mostly

2018-08-31 08:09:33 UTC

If science isn't critical thinking then what is

2018-08-31 08:10:22 UTC

They don't get how science works, they think scientists just take an assumption and run with it and make theories
They don't know and don't want to know that scientists repeatedly try to debunk their own theories

2018-08-31 08:10:45 UTC

Almost like they have to misrepresent it inorder to suit their narattive

2018-08-31 08:10:49 UTC

The amount of times Iโ€™ve seen โ€œX is really just a theory!โ€ Is saddening

2018-08-31 08:10:57 UTC

It's no one's fault except them

2018-08-31 08:10:59 UTC

Yep

2018-08-31 08:11:57 UTC

Its the most basic shit
You have to know the difference between a theory (idea) and a scientific theory and need to learn how hypothesis becomes theory in science, most of them have no idea and have stopped even trying to learn

2018-08-31 08:12:52 UTC

Then they complain about science not being transparent...
No ones stopping you from learning how science works
It's probably the most transparent shit out there

2018-08-31 08:16:24 UTC

A lot of people seem to get stuck in the whole โ€œif I canโ€™t repeat it myself then itโ€™s wrongโ€

2018-08-31 08:16:49 UTC

Which rules out anything that requires more than a couple hundred dollars of equipment or materials even remotely hazardous

2018-08-31 08:17:33 UTC

But the issue is, most of the stuff they complain about can be easily repeated by themselves

2018-08-31 08:17:49 UTC

Most if not all

2018-08-31 08:18:48 UTC

CAVENDISH

2018-08-31 08:18:52 UTC

And the fact that they call everyone shill who does the said experiment is sad.. they are just normal people like you and me

2018-08-31 08:19:24 UTC

And they get called shills and agents because they bothered to do something flat earthers didn't

2018-08-31 08:20:02 UTC

They spent so much money on FECORE to do it badly..

2018-08-31 08:20:59 UTC

They don't even need as much money or fancy equipment to verify basic things like you know, getting a couple fe on different parts of earth

2018-08-31 08:21:09 UTC

Literally what sly did

2018-08-31 08:21:35 UTC

But no why not shoot yourself in the face with a laser

2018-08-31 08:21:46 UTC

And that actually happened

2018-08-31 08:24:14 UTC

>FE: hereโ€™s a video demonstrating the crazy effects of refraction across a lake
>also FE: this laser proves flat earth WITH ZERO REFRACTION BECAUSE WE SAID SO

2018-08-31 08:32:43 UTC

What an idiot ๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-08-31 08:47:04 UTC

I'd really like to know who that is

2018-08-31 08:47:48 UTC

I believe he goes by Johnny mcBraincancer now

2018-08-31 08:48:18 UTC

Lmao

2018-08-31 08:49:16 UTC

....they could have conducted a better experiment from literally their homes

2018-08-31 08:50:44 UTC

But how will they make a misleading documentary then?

2018-08-31 08:52:14 UTC

๐Ÿ”ฅ

2018-08-31 20:06:59 UTC

I'd like to start seriously debating what, why, and how we can explore extra sensory perceptions, the life styles, mindsets and communities best for such progressions, and what materialistic things may be needed.

Personally Iโ€™m hoping to build a series of log cabins, close to open seas/rivers leading to the sea; along with a houseboat. With hopes of farming/fishing for most my food while slowly building up a small economy/trade based community. Ideally I want provide people the opportunity to explore spirituality without dogma; giving them a place and purpose to work/relax as they explore reality.

With my background in Electro-mechanical engineering and robotics/computer programing and experience in carpentry and the labour feild. I hope to automate much of the day to day work over time, and ideally market this โ€œplaceโ€ in 3 tiers. The labour force who work on expanding the community; Caretakers who provide support during sessions; Explorers who take substances etc for spiritual progression. โ€œMostโ€ people will ideally spend time in at least 2 of the 3 roles, but the hopes are to collectively harness these divine gifts and explore/expand our capabilities while providing a growing community to support more.

2018-08-31 20:07:51 UTC

Mr. J!

2018-08-31 20:07:59 UTC

oh boy

2018-08-31 20:08:00 UTC

By God, youโ€™re alive

2018-08-31 20:08:20 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‰ not yet, i'm spiriutaly dead but growing closer

2018-08-31 20:09:10 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-08-31 20:09:17 UTC

Keep on keeping on

2018-08-31 20:09:46 UTC

๐Ÿ˜„ i'm working again so progress within this matrix is coming along

2018-08-31 20:10:44 UTC

Cause this type of thing never ends well

2018-08-31 20:11:01 UTC

so who's up to collectibly rent out a house/fishing boat and sail around the south pole to "see" how small it is?

2018-08-31 20:11:23 UTC

me

2018-08-31 20:11:47 UTC

only thing is, we gotta bring a shit load of shrooms

2018-08-31 20:12:28 UTC

J, these types of communities have been done a lot. There are a few problems. The biggest is keeping the population stable

2018-08-31 20:12:40 UTC

I can totally eat shrooms. If you need someone to eat them....

2018-08-31 20:12:45 UTC

It usually last for 1 generation

2018-08-31 20:13:02 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‰ that i will @Sparkles after all its no fun tripping by your self

2018-08-31 20:13:25 UTC

And I'm a pretty great fisherman, but a girl.

2018-08-31 20:13:54 UTC

well @DrPeper the thing is i'm not starting this thing as a stay for life kinda thing, mostly just renting out places for people to spend vacations, and offering some services if they so wish.

2018-08-31 20:14:07 UTC

Ah

2018-08-31 20:14:27 UTC

Sounds pretty great to me.

2018-08-31 20:14:46 UTC

Excuse me, Your vessel is pathetic

2018-08-31 20:14:55 UTC

๐Ÿ˜„ well unless we get another greyson event (server closing) i'll be here along the way till the day and beyond its coming into reality

2018-08-31 20:15:01 UTC

Still have a similar problem of getting people for the community to work

2018-08-31 20:15:13 UTC

I will bring an Icebreaker and a crew of 5 Filipino Mercenaries

2018-08-31 20:15:28 UTC

Together we will accomplish the unthinkable.

2018-08-31 20:16:03 UTC

๐Ÿ˜น as long as one of them dosen't mind helping me cook I'd love to

2018-08-31 20:16:16 UTC

I mean, maybe

2018-08-31 20:16:22 UTC

I have 5 kids that do almost anything I say. Just let them play fortnite when they have free time.

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