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oh my god
I've asked you four times to answer my question
how does the earth being flat change that
don't avoid it
Has nothing to do with flat earth. It has to do with the impossibility of a globe
so how does the same issue not relate to a flat earth
atmosphere and gravity are physical barriers
Earth being flat is a claim all by itself
You are strawmanning the arugment
it's the <#484516084846952451> channel
so what do you suggest keeps gases in instead?
I'll take that as a "I believe this but don't have an alternative possibility"
also about flat earth, how do you explain a horizon
and the moons orbit?
oh and seing further from height
The horizon line and elevating yourself to see further is basically the same question
right I can't see any of that because it's a fast moving gif without a link
Moons orbit. Exactly as you see it
are moons round
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Not in the mood for bs
you seem to get pretty tilted by people arguing with you
Im not a babysitter
if you're already in a bad mood
citizen z are moons round
To be fair it was a poorly structured argument
Listing off certain things without explaining why they prove other things wrong
you mean the gif he posted?
still lost me
who listed what without explaining that
had this argument like 30 mins ago
Well just saying "but what about this" isn't a great argument
"You think this is true but this has been observed" is a better one
Do you see what I'm saying?
yeah but like what part of the argument were we applying it to
cba to re-read it
or the whole thing
Dunno the messages aren't there
I wasn't talking about your argument if that's what you're thinking
I did lol
You're fine hun
Asking questions is good
@zaz the moon has been observed to be round. Like a shield. While the earth has not.
nasa live stream
@zaz its always bluescreen. Its rarely showing earth. Most the time it points at itself, not the earth. Video is not evidence.
Every planet/most satellites in space has been observed to be spherical yet the earth just isn't because why not
Really reminds me of the arrogant attitude people took centuries ago thinking the earth was the center of the universe
It's not special and it makes literally no sense to be flat
It should be spherical for about every reason, including how it would have been formed in the first place
But of course I'm just a believer in pseudoscience for going with the standard opinion and observation because it's been proven to make sense
And I'll get censored in a few days for daring to have that opinion anyway
@-Mat_ have you watched the movie the principal or looked at the data on the cosmic microwave background radiation?
@Citizen Z right, for a start, I don't think a bunch of movies or YouTube videos are a good place to start with evidence for anything, not going to bother watching them because I'm about to sleep, secondly I know what background radiation is, what of it
Have a sense of humor.
The background radiation shows the stars to be on like shelves
That there is a special direction in space
That we are likely the centre
What do you mean by shelves?
Watch the movie
I think the earth is round
I think... it's hollow.
I believe it’s Round, Donut, and Square
Next person that trolls is banned
Is the Earth a donut or ice Berger shaped
@Citizen Z so let me get this straight, you think the earth is also the center of the universe as well
And instead of asking me to watch a film explain it yourself I'm not going to bother wasting my time on watching something to de-bunk it
I'm here to argue not to have to watch stuff I don't want to
Explain how background radiation shows the stars to be on shelves don't ask me to watch a film
Gravity is a myth
Science is a religion
Change me mind
hello fellow flatties
where is everyone
I'm not a flattie tho, how dare you insult my beliefs
Maybe talking about your anatomy?
hewoow friend flat
can someone convince me that the earth is flat please
I am not here for arguements
You wont get convinced
Because its not
I just wanted to hear a new perspective passively
Ye but they seem to think science is an option
I dont understand like do you not realize everything else is a sphere
The moon is fake wut
no cap no cap
THE EARTH IS FLAATTT
Proof me rong
the earth is flat because the ground is sometimes flat
i love how much these troll accounts trigger people
@FluXje its really mean for people to make fun of that we believe and understand that is flat earth and then they come and troll which is very very mean. i bileive that earth is flat and its very mean when somebody does fun of me for think this
Why are so many people so stupid. the earth is clearly flat. how could water stay on a big ball?
I literally just told you I don't want to waste my time doing it
if you can't explain it yourself then you clearly don't understand what you're talking about
THE PRINCIPLE DOCUMENTARY https://archive.org/details/ThePrinciple720p
Can I ask
What do you lot believe is on the bottom of the flat earth?
"[Redshifts] would imply that we occupy a unique position in the universe, analogous, in a sense, to the ancient conception of a central Earth[...] This hypothesis cannot be disproved" - Edwin Hubble in The Observational Approach to Cosmology
"no amount of experimentation can ever prove me right but a single experiment can prove me wrong." - Albert Einstein
"[W]e have[...] certainty regarding the stability of the Earth, situated in the center, and the motion of the sun around the Earth." - Galileo Galilei in letter to Francesco Rinuccini, March 29th, 1641
"[A]ll this evidence that the universe looks the same whichever direction we look in might seem to suggest there is something special about our place in the universe. In particular, it might seem that if we observe all other galaxies to be moving away from us, then we must be at the center of the universe[...] We [reject] it only on grounds of modesty" - Stephen Hawking in A Brief History of Time
"If the Earth were at the center of the universe, the attraction of the surrounding mass of stars would also produce redshifts wherever we looked! [This] theory seems quite consistent with our astronomical observations" - Paul Davies in Nature
"I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it[...] A lot of cosmology tries to hide that." - George Ellis in Scientific American
"The new results are either telling us that all of science is wrong and we're the center of the universe, or maybe the data is simply incorrect" - Lawrence Krauss, 2006
"[Without Dark Energy, Earth must be] literally at the center of the universe, which is, to say the least, unusual" - Lawrence Krauss, 2009
if earth round then water will fall off
its not that hard to understand that earth flat
@-Mat_ btw i can explain it myself but there is a lot to it and its easier if you just watch it
you cant explain how view of polaris dont change if the earth is round. as is flat it makes sence
https://youtu.be/TdVKZkfAkpk it was made as comedy but it actually shows some good proof the earth is flat
Idiots joking about flat earth actually proving it
also their is proof that horison rise as you go higher on plane
@walkefr i hate when people who think earth round do fun of us who think earth round. it is very rude. we do not do fun of people ho say earth round. i think is very mean do this. is also very stupid
as their is lots of proof that earth flat
some people just dont want to understand and see what in front of theyre eyes
People are so stupid especially those who try and joke about our community, most of the time people prove we are correct
yes i very agree about this.
some people think do joke to us is funny but they are just very dum and silly
their is lots of prove that flat earth
and they dont want to understand because they are very dum
And very insensitive. They keep harassing our community
all the prove is right their but they ignor it beacause they want to be right
I tried to talk about flat earth in the lounge and they started to Harass me with bs proof about how earth isn't flat
People should support what people think especially when what we think has been proven to be correct
https://images.app.goo.gl/2DphtEMQ6r3AVtnn8 i found a picture on redit trying to prove us wrong. It's clearly now what it shows
govament alway дну to us
people who still think earth round is very dum
They were indoctrinated into believing it.
@walkefr we're presented evidence that the earth is indeed not flat. How have flat earthers denied it? they disagreed, that's it.
the flat earth community is disliked because the ignorant side of the community is represented in media most often creating a slandered view on every single flat earther.
i'd love to hear why you think the earth is flat and i'll talk about it
Oh dear no evedencr
Asking for it.
where should we start? can you explain how atmospheric refraction and how ships disappear across the horizon?
well for visual evidence you can view the several videos and images takin in high orbit
Atmospheric refraction has never been proven to refract buildings or mountains or boats above the horizon
Show me your model of this refraction.
you can view it yourself
https://youtu.be/TdVKZkfAkpk this video was made for comedic purposes but actually does prove the flat earth theory
https://newscdn.weigelbroadcasting.com/hT0tL-1494894006-10857-blog-7602503_G.jpg mirage created by atmospheric refraction of chicago
Thats not refraction.
Never proven to be.
okay, then why is chicago transparent and appearing like that?
atmospheric refreaction is proven.
Show me a scientific study of how this refraction works to to elevate buildings 60 miles away up into the air and make the earth appear optically flat. @nef
How I see no solid proof
I want solid an conclusive proof please
atmospheric refraction is the deviation of light due to atmospheric conditions such as air density as a function of height. if you understand this, it is very understandable how chicago would be elevated at our perspective due to the light deviation
Everything jet is saying
assume the sun is the city and it works just well
i just did.
look at both images.
No you didnt
The buildings are not even transparent
is chicago naturally tinted the same color as the sky?
woah do you notice how it's under the horizon? that also disproves flat earth
They are not transparent
they're tinted. that means they are not solid objects blocking the light behind it from coming through
Do you know how many miles that is?
Of course color change
Its 60 miles
that's due to the camera
if we view it in person it's not going to be pixilated.
is that an image of the ocean or the moutains behind it?
or is that again just another example of refraction
how many people here believe in flat earth?
When you can show me a scientifically proven study that shows mountains popping up 3 miles into the air and the earth just appears flat. I will take what you are saying seriously.
the earth does appear flat.
But magic unproven refraction disproves it?
you can see refraction in person.
No you cant
have you went to the exact locations at the same weather and proved that?
Its not refraction.
what is it then
Its the actual objects
the thing im confused about is if the earth is flat wouldnt all the water leak off the edge?
why are they below the horizon?
so ur saying that earth is infinite?