#flat-earth (Discord ID: 484516084846952451) in The Ice Wall, page 7


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2019-03-23 21:30:27 UTC

oh my god

2019-03-23 21:30:35 UTC

I've asked you four times to answer my question

2019-03-23 21:30:40 UTC

how does the earth being flat change that

2019-03-23 21:30:43 UTC

don't avoid it

2019-03-23 21:31:23 UTC

Has nothing to do with flat earth. It has to do with the impossibility of a globe

2019-03-23 21:31:35 UTC

so how does the same issue not relate to a flat earth

2019-03-23 21:31:54 UTC

atmosphere and gravity are physical barriers

2019-03-23 21:31:54 UTC

Earth being flat is a claim all by itself

2019-03-23 21:32:10 UTC

You are strawmanning the arugment

2019-03-23 21:32:20 UTC

it's the <#484516084846952451> channel

2019-03-23 21:32:41 UTC

so what do you suggest keeps gases in instead?

2019-03-23 21:33:38 UTC

right

2019-03-23 21:33:54 UTC

I'll take that as a "I believe this but don't have an alternative possibility"

2019-03-23 21:34:03 UTC
2019-03-23 21:34:11 UTC

oof

2019-03-23 21:34:59 UTC

also about flat earth, how do you explain a horizon

2019-03-23 21:35:34 UTC

and the moons orbit?

2019-03-23 21:36:44 UTC

oh and seing further from height

2019-03-23 21:37:24 UTC

lol

2019-03-23 22:03:42 UTC

The horizon line and elevating yourself to see further is basically the same question

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/559135208104919060/Indio.gif

2019-03-23 22:04:14 UTC

right I can't see any of that because it's a fast moving gif without a link

2019-03-23 22:04:27 UTC

@-Mat_ chill out

2019-03-23 22:04:31 UTC

<:butthurt:507983822244151306> ❄

2019-03-23 22:04:47 UTC

banned >:(

2019-03-23 22:05:01 UTC

wrong server

2019-03-23 22:05:07 UTC

Moons orbit. Exactly as you see it

2019-03-23 22:05:15 UTC

are moons round

2019-03-23 22:05:16 UTC
2019-03-23 22:05:17 UTC

<:vSuccess:390202497827864597> Successfully banned <@488793330646515718>

2019-03-23 22:05:28 UTC

damn

2019-03-23 22:05:29 UTC

Not in the mood for bs

2019-03-23 22:05:43 UTC

you seem to get pretty tilted by people arguing with you

2019-03-23 22:05:44 UTC

Im not a babysitter

2019-03-23 22:05:53 UTC

if you're already in a bad mood

2019-03-23 22:06:55 UTC

citizen z are moons round

2019-03-23 22:07:17 UTC

To be fair it was a poorly structured argument

2019-03-23 22:08:12 UTC

what was?

2019-03-23 22:08:40 UTC

Listing off certain things without explaining why they prove other things wrong

2019-03-23 22:09:13 UTC

you mean the gif he posted?

2019-03-23 22:09:21 UTC

Nah

2019-03-23 22:09:29 UTC

still lost me

2019-03-23 22:10:03 UTC

who listed what without explaining that

2019-03-23 22:10:09 UTC

had this argument like 30 mins ago

2019-03-23 22:10:16 UTC

already forgotten

2019-03-23 22:11:11 UTC

Well just saying "but what about this" isn't a great argument

2019-03-23 22:11:37 UTC

"You think this is true but this has been observed" is a better one

2019-03-23 22:11:50 UTC

Do you see what I'm saying?

2019-03-23 22:12:05 UTC

yeah but like what part of the argument were we applying it to

2019-03-23 22:12:07 UTC

cba to re-read it

2019-03-23 22:12:17 UTC

or the whole thing

2019-03-23 22:12:58 UTC

Dunno the messages aren't there

2019-03-23 22:13:23 UTC

huh

2019-03-23 22:14:48 UTC

I wasn't talking about your argument if that's what you're thinking

2019-03-23 22:17:00 UTC

I did lol

2019-03-23 22:17:01 UTC

sorry

2019-03-23 22:17:27 UTC

You're fine hun

2019-03-23 22:17:35 UTC

Asking questions is good

2019-03-23 22:17:41 UTC

agreed

2019-03-23 23:10:21 UTC

@zaz the moon has been observed to be round. Like a shield. While the earth has not.

2019-03-24 00:02:38 UTC

nasa live stream

2019-03-24 00:02:45 UTC
2019-03-24 00:08:48 UTC

@zaz its always bluescreen. Its rarely showing earth. Most the time it points at itself, not the earth. Video is not evidence.

2019-03-24 00:09:46 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/559166936873697291/Screenshot_20190323-170936_Chrome.jpg

2019-03-24 00:15:58 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/559168493870907432/jZ25Ev.gif

2019-03-24 00:17:18 UTC

Every planet/most satellites in space has been observed to be spherical yet the earth just isn't because why not

2019-03-24 00:17:52 UTC

Really reminds me of the arrogant attitude people took centuries ago thinking the earth was the center of the universe

2019-03-24 00:18:08 UTC

It's not special and it makes literally no sense to be flat

2019-03-24 00:19:13 UTC

It should be spherical for about every reason, including how it would have been formed in the first place

2019-03-24 00:19:57 UTC

But of course I'm just a believer in pseudoscience for going with the standard opinion and observation because it's been proven to make sense

2019-03-24 00:20:26 UTC

And I'll get censored in a few days for daring to have that opinion anyway

2019-03-24 00:26:32 UTC

@-Mat_ have you watched the movie the principal or looked at the data on the cosmic microwave background radiation?

2019-03-24 00:48:50 UTC

@Citizen Z right, for a start, I don't think a bunch of movies or YouTube videos are a good place to start with evidence for anything, not going to bother watching them because I'm about to sleep, secondly I know what background radiation is, what of it

2019-03-24 00:59:54 UTC

Have a sense of humor.

2019-03-24 01:00:27 UTC

The background radiation shows the stars to be on like shelves

2019-03-24 01:00:40 UTC

That there is a special direction in space

2019-03-24 01:01:13 UTC

That we are likely the centre

2019-03-24 01:09:10 UTC

What do you mean by shelves?

2019-03-24 02:42:57 UTC

Watch the movie

2019-03-24 02:47:03 UTC

I think the earth is round

2019-03-24 02:47:54 UTC

I think... it's hollow.

2019-03-24 02:54:21 UTC

Fr?

2019-03-24 02:56:06 UTC

I believe it’s Round, Donut, and Square

2019-03-24 02:58:23 UTC

Next person that trolls is banned

2019-03-24 03:05:11 UTC

Who trolled

2019-03-24 07:33:22 UTC

Is the Earth a donut or ice Berger shaped

2019-03-24 09:40:48 UTC

@Citizen Z so let me get this straight, you think the earth is also the center of the universe as well

2019-03-24 09:44:11 UTC

And instead of asking me to watch a film explain it yourself I'm not going to bother wasting my time on watching something to de-bunk it

2019-03-24 09:45:20 UTC

I'm here to argue not to have to watch stuff I don't want to

2019-03-24 09:59:54 UTC

Explain how background radiation shows the stars to be on shelves don't ask me to watch a film

2019-03-24 11:59:32 UTC

Gravity is a myth

2019-03-24 11:59:40 UTC

Science is a religion

2019-03-24 11:59:43 UTC

Change me mind

2019-03-24 12:43:40 UTC

hello fellow flatties

2019-03-24 12:47:12 UTC

where is everyone

2019-03-24 12:47:14 UTC

oiii

2019-03-24 12:47:17 UTC

flatties

2019-03-24 12:58:51 UTC

hiiiii

2019-03-24 14:03:20 UTC

I'm not a flattie tho, how dare you insult my beliefs

2019-03-24 14:09:49 UTC

Maybe talking about your anatomy?

2019-03-24 14:19:08 UTC

Mate wit

2019-03-24 14:24:06 UTC

hewoow friend flat

2019-03-24 14:27:27 UTC

can someone convince me that the earth is flat please

2019-03-24 14:27:37 UTC

I am not here for arguements

2019-03-24 14:27:38 UTC

Trust me

2019-03-24 14:27:43 UTC

You wont get convinced

2019-03-24 14:27:50 UTC

Because its not

2019-03-24 14:27:50 UTC

lmao

2019-03-24 14:27:53 UTC

i know

2019-03-24 14:27:57 UTC

Ty

2019-03-24 14:27:58 UTC

Ily

2019-03-24 14:28:08 UTC

I just wanted to hear a new perspective passively

2019-03-24 14:28:24 UTC

Ye but they seem to think science is an option

2019-03-24 14:28:26 UTC

So

2019-03-24 14:29:01 UTC

I dont understand like do you not realize everything else is a sphere

2019-03-24 14:29:07 UTC

🌑

2019-03-24 14:29:30 UTC

The moon is fake wut

2019-03-24 14:29:40 UTC

no cap no cap

2019-03-24 14:29:43 UTC

Lol

2019-03-24 14:34:05 UTC

THE EARTH IS FLAATTT

2019-03-24 14:34:14 UTC

Proof me rong

2019-03-24 15:17:18 UTC

the earth is flat because the ground is sometimes flat

2019-03-24 15:17:26 UTC

#jointheflatties

2019-03-24 15:28:11 UTC

i love how much these troll accounts trigger people

2019-03-24 15:33:41 UTC

@FluXje its really mean for people to make fun of that we believe and understand that is flat earth and then they come and troll which is very very mean. i bileive that earth is flat and its very mean when somebody does fun of me for think this

2019-03-24 16:19:10 UTC

Why are so many people so stupid. the earth is clearly flat. how could water stay on a big ball?

2019-03-24 16:19:40 UTC
2019-03-24 16:28:31 UTC

@-Mat_ watch the film

2019-03-24 16:35:20 UTC

I literally just told you I don't want to waste my time doing it

2019-03-24 16:35:36 UTC

Then stfu

2019-03-24 16:35:36 UTC

if you can't explain it yourself then you clearly don't understand what you're talking about

2019-03-24 16:37:40 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/559415547201323031/Screenshot_20190123-041310_Chrome.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/559415548119744513/Screenshot_20190123-035720_Chrome.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/559415548119744519/Screenshot_20190123-041331_Chrome.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/559415549046554645/Screenshot_20190123-035849_Chrome.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/559415549600464896/Screenshot_20190123-040205_Chrome.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/559415549600464898/Screenshot_20190123-035606_Chrome.jpg

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2019-03-24 16:37:58 UTC

Can I ask

2019-03-24 16:38:11 UTC

What do you lot believe is on the bottom of the flat earth?

2019-03-24 16:39:24 UTC

Water

2019-03-24 16:39:32 UTC

"[Redshifts] would imply that we occupy a unique position in the universe, analogous, in a sense, to the ancient conception of a central Earth[...] This hypothesis cannot be disproved" - Edwin Hubble in The Observational Approach to Cosmology

2019-03-24 16:39:39 UTC

"no amount of experimentation can ever prove me right but a single experiment can prove me wrong." - Albert Einstein

2019-03-24 16:39:42 UTC

"[W]e have[...] certainty regarding the stability of the Earth, situated in the center, and the motion of the sun around the Earth." - Galileo Galilei in letter to Francesco Rinuccini, March 29th, 1641

2019-03-24 16:39:45 UTC

"[A]ll this evidence that the universe looks the same whichever direction we look in might seem to suggest there is something special about our place in the universe. In particular, it might seem that if we observe all other galaxies to be moving away from us, then we must be at the center of the universe[...] We [reject] it only on grounds of modesty" - Stephen Hawking in A Brief History of Time

2019-03-24 16:39:46 UTC

"If the Earth were at the center of the universe, the attraction of the surrounding mass of stars would also produce redshifts wherever we looked! [This] theory seems quite consistent with our astronomical observations" - Paul Davies in Nature

2019-03-24 16:39:49 UTC

"I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it[...] A lot of cosmology tries to hide that." - George Ellis in Scientific American

2019-03-24 16:39:51 UTC

"The new results are either telling us that all of science is wrong and we're the center of the universe, or maybe the data is simply incorrect" - Lawrence Krauss, 2006

2019-03-24 16:39:53 UTC

"[Without Dark Energy, Earth must be] literally at the center of the universe, which is, to say the least, unusual" - Lawrence Krauss, 2009

2019-03-24 16:42:58 UTC

if earth round then water will fall off

2019-03-24 16:43:14 UTC

its not that hard to understand that earth flat

2019-03-24 16:43:20 UTC

@Jeraldine stop trolling or ill restrict your access

2019-03-24 16:43:53 UTC

@Citizen Z im not trolling

2019-03-24 16:44:47 UTC

@-Mat_ btw i can explain it myself but there is a lot to it and its easier if you just watch it

2019-03-24 16:45:40 UTC

you cant explain how view of polaris dont change if the earth is round. as is flat it makes sence

2019-03-24 16:45:54 UTC

https://youtu.be/TdVKZkfAkpk it was made as comedy but it actually shows some good proof the earth is flat

2019-03-24 16:46:43 UTC

Idiots joking about flat earth actually proving it

2019-03-24 16:47:16 UTC

also their is proof that horison rise as you go higher on plane

2019-03-24 16:50:05 UTC

@walkefr i hate when people who think earth round do fun of us who think earth round. it is very rude. we do not do fun of people ho say earth round. i think is very mean do this. is also very stupid

2019-03-24 16:50:20 UTC

as their is lots of proof that earth flat

2019-03-24 16:50:52 UTC

some people just dont want to understand and see what in front of theyre eyes

2019-03-24 16:51:51 UTC

People are so stupid especially those who try and joke about our community, most of the time people prove we are correct

2019-03-24 16:52:40 UTC

yes i very agree about this.

2019-03-24 16:53:16 UTC

some people think do joke to us is funny but they are just very dum and silly

2019-03-24 16:53:50 UTC

their is lots of prove that flat earth

2019-03-24 16:54:23 UTC

and they dont want to understand because they are very dum

2019-03-24 16:54:55 UTC

And very insensitive. They keep harassing our community

2019-03-24 16:55:02 UTC

all the prove is right their but they ignor it beacause they want to be right

2019-03-24 16:57:17 UTC

I tried to talk about flat earth in the lounge and they started to Harass me with bs proof about how earth isn't flat

2019-03-24 16:58:52 UTC

People should support what people think especially when what we think has been proven to be correct

2019-03-24 17:03:37 UTC

https://images.app.goo.gl/2DphtEMQ6r3AVtnn8 i found a picture on redit trying to prove us wrong. It's clearly now what it shows

2019-03-24 17:34:26 UTC

2019-03-24 19:51:03 UTC

govament alway дну to us

2019-03-24 19:51:05 UTC

no?

2019-03-24 19:51:36 UTC

people who still think earth round is very dum

2019-03-24 20:04:54 UTC

@Jeraldine do not insult others please.

2019-03-24 20:05:19 UTC

They were indoctrinated into believing it.

2019-03-24 20:10:22 UTC

@walkefr we're presented evidence that the earth is indeed not flat. How have flat earthers denied it? they disagreed, that's it.

2019-03-24 20:11:11 UTC

the flat earth community is disliked because the ignorant side of the community is represented in media most often creating a slandered view on every single flat earther.

2019-03-24 20:11:39 UTC

i'd love to hear why you think the earth is flat and i'll talk about it

2019-03-24 20:12:12 UTC

@nef what evidence?

2019-03-24 20:12:21 UTC

oh dear.

2019-03-24 20:12:38 UTC

Oh dear no evedencr

2019-03-24 20:12:46 UTC

Asking for it.

2019-03-24 20:12:51 UTC

where should we start? can you explain how atmospheric refraction and how ships disappear across the horizon?

2019-03-24 20:13:06 UTC

well for visual evidence you can view the several videos and images takin in high orbit

2019-03-24 20:13:34 UTC

Atmospheric refraction has never been proven to refract buildings or mountains or boats above the horizon

2019-03-24 20:13:48 UTC

Show me your model of this refraction.

2019-03-24 20:13:51 UTC

you can view it yourself

2019-03-24 20:13:51 UTC

okay

2019-03-24 20:13:56 UTC

Ok ty.

2019-03-24 20:14:17 UTC

https://youtu.be/TdVKZkfAkpk this video was made for comedic purposes but actually does prove the flat earth theory

2019-03-24 20:14:51 UTC
2019-03-24 20:15:04 UTC

Thats not refraction.

2019-03-24 20:15:13 UTC

Never proven to be.

2019-03-24 20:15:32 UTC

okay, then why is chicago transparent and appearing like that?

2019-03-24 20:16:00 UTC

atmospheric refreaction is proven.

2019-03-24 20:16:12 UTC

Show me a scientific study of how this refraction works to to elevate buildings 60 miles away up into the air and make the earth appear optically flat. @nef

2019-03-24 20:16:12 UTC

How I see no solid proof

2019-03-24 20:16:54 UTC

I want solid an conclusive proof please

2019-03-24 20:17:06 UTC
2019-03-24 20:17:23 UTC

atmospheric refraction is the deviation of light due to atmospheric conditions such as air density as a function of height. if you understand this, it is very understandable how chicago would be elevated at our perspective due to the light deviation

2019-03-24 20:17:27 UTC

Everything jet is saying

2019-03-24 20:17:32 UTC

Jet

2019-03-24 20:17:58 UTC

assume the sun is the city and it works just well

2019-03-24 20:18:01 UTC

@nef ok you can copy someone's words. Now prove it.

2019-03-24 20:18:08 UTC

i just did.

2019-03-24 20:18:12 UTC

look at both images.

2019-03-24 20:18:18 UTC

No you didnt

2019-03-24 20:18:28 UTC

The buildings are not even transparent

2019-03-24 20:18:40 UTC

😂

2019-03-24 20:19:00 UTC

is chicago naturally tinted the same color as the sky?

2019-03-24 20:19:01 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/559471254504210432/Screenshot_20190324-131851_Chrome.jpg

2019-03-24 20:19:20 UTC

woah do you notice how it's under the horizon? that also disproves flat earth

2019-03-24 20:19:27 UTC

They are not transparent

2019-03-24 20:19:41 UTC

@nef no thats how optics work.

2019-03-24 20:19:42 UTC

they're tinted. that means they are not solid objects blocking the light behind it from coming through

2019-03-24 20:20:02 UTC

Do you know how many miles that is?

2019-03-24 20:20:05 UTC

60

2019-03-24 20:20:13 UTC

Of course color change

2019-03-24 20:20:14 UTC

iirc

2019-03-24 20:20:20 UTC

60 miles

2019-03-24 20:20:25 UTC

Its blurry

2019-03-24 20:20:30 UTC

Its 60 miles

2019-03-24 20:20:34 UTC

that's due to the camera

2019-03-24 20:20:49 UTC

if we view it in person it's not going to be pixilated.

2019-03-24 20:20:50 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/559471711439814678/image-42-1-1.jpg

2019-03-24 20:21:13 UTC

is that an image of the ocean or the moutains behind it?

2019-03-24 20:22:01 UTC

or is that again just another example of refraction

2019-03-24 20:22:48 UTC

how many people here believe in flat earth?

2019-03-24 20:22:49 UTC

When you can show me a scientifically proven study that shows mountains popping up 3 miles into the air and the earth just appears flat. I will take what you are saying seriously.

2019-03-24 20:22:59 UTC

*appears flat*

2019-03-24 20:23:08 UTC

the earth does appear flat.

2019-03-24 20:23:31 UTC

But magic unproven refraction disproves it?

2019-03-24 20:23:58 UTC

you can see refraction in person.

--- PERSPECTIVE ..

why things disappear bottom-up from horizon ...

https://prnt.sc/g1fy4g
https://prnt.sc/mz0jy5

2019-03-24 20:24:06 UTC

No you cant

2019-03-24 20:24:10 UTC

really?

2019-03-24 20:24:17 UTC

Yes really.

2019-03-24 20:24:18 UTC

have you went to the exact locations at the same weather and proved that?

2019-03-24 20:24:29 UTC

Its not refraction.

2019-03-24 20:24:39 UTC

what is it then

2019-03-24 20:24:40 UTC

Its the actual objects

2019-03-24 20:24:45 UTC

the thing im confused about is if the earth is flat wouldnt all the water leak off the edge?

2019-03-24 20:24:55 UTC

why are they below the horizon?

2019-03-24 20:25:05 UTC

@CanWab who told you there is an edge?

2019-03-24 20:25:15 UTC

@nef optical slant

2019-03-24 20:25:25 UTC

so ur saying that earth is infinite?

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