It was like the titanic iceberg times fifteen have you ever sailed @Question For Your Life

No i haven't

You really should sailing is vastly underrated

Sailing sounds like a drag XD

@CatataFish @Pit Droid

https://youtu.be/75psgvZCAHg

Even in satellite view on the web the earth is more oblong

Supposively

Explain your point please @Question For Your Life

There is no curve

That’s why I said supposedly so I could cater to all beliefs

Glad you brought up this servers favourite image @Question For Your Life ! Because if you use that data provided nicely with the image, you find the refraction is more than sufficient t explain the observation.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiZoP6CntUxvV8EMU6ohtMiswAJmSaXMT @MICKEY MOUSE!

Witch refraction you talking about @Pit Droid

Now if you believe they put a man on the moon.. a man in the mooon

I best be resting now anyway bye.

What do you mean 'which type'?

Ugh again. Explain your point about the geometric horizon. Aaand again refraction...

how does refraction explain this?

Yea you just cant say refraction and not talk about witch types if refraction is happening

I was hopen YOU would say something about the pic lol i caught me one @Logrian

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Help I'm need to learn discrod

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Refraction is refraction. The path of the light is bent in the atmosphere allowing you to see around a curve

show me the maths that have 7 miles of refraction from 5 inches, thanks

Or, depending on the temperature gradient, the opposite happens and you get the affect you see on a hot road

theres many types of refraction, not just one btw

Do enlighten me

well I was asking for you maths

that show from 5 inches theres a 7 miles of refraction

btw refracted horizon is a flat earth claim 😉

Good for you 👍

Bare with while I type all this on my phone

rite o

Isnt air temperature refraction really small

irrelevent

@Logrian what do you mean that we don't have a physical horizon

what do ships disappear over?

Curvature

which is a physical horizon, correct?

Water is physical

So yes

I still don't know what you mean by "physical horizon"

so we can calculate the distance to this physical bulge of curve, correct?

Explain to me what a physical horizon is

you just told me

Water

Just to be on the same page

or land

the bulge of a curve blocks your view yes?

Ok

so we can now calculate at which point this accurs yes?

It's somewhere between you and the boat on the water

so given the height of the observer and the distance to the physical bulge curve what is this distance, search for a horizon calculator an tell me the results, or screenshot an post, thanks

I think it has to do more with perspective

You still there typing@Pit Droid

you are not doing as I asked you

why?

I'm on .y phone

well you can search the website

theres many

then add the calculations

Right ugh that was painful on a phone

Using this

5.1 km @Logrian

We have context for the measurements

Cata, an yet we observe the horizon at 10 miles

RIP Glob

@Logrian where did you get that fact

Input of 0.5 ft height

Target distance is irrelevant for this demonstration

Do you know the 5 types of refraction @Pit Droid

I input T, P and dT/dh only goes up to that value on the simulation, where it is following the earth curve

Which gives us this result

@Logrian doesn't it have to do with the height of the object too

Which should be sufficient

an even if we go to 56 ft observer height we dont get ten miles Cata.

@Logrian not observer height

horizon doesnt have a height

How did you measure the distance to the horizon?

by knowing the distance beyond the towers an the observer hight, according to the glob model the MAX horizon is 1.22miles

Refraction shifts the position of the horizon away from the geometric horizon

@Logrian isn't the calculator based on the globe model

no, its basic geometry tangent

with the glob model R

Of a sphere the size of earth

pit, that silly

Pray why?

If someone disproves you. You should try to disprove them not call them silly

@Question For Your Life I'm honestly only aware of Refraction as the concept, not different types

Ice = positive T gradient ergo refraction around the curve.

Also your refraction is assuming an R value which doesnt exist in reality, thats wht its a model, an idea 😉

Seems to fit your obervation pretty well to me 🤔

Nope, you dont get 7 miles of refraction 😉

an also you cannot have refraction, unless youre a flat earther

Only in your mind

facts

your glob model needs a PHYSICAL horizon

Refraction happens perfectly well regardless of the shape of the earth

which is why ships disappear

according to you the glob model has a physical horizon

this is determined by R

this is NOT observed

ergo no R no ball

No. You dot understand the effect refraction has on the apparent position of the physical horizon...

we do, this is the problem

you dont know what types there are

you dont know you NEED a physical horizon

so, what do ships disappear over???

No, you need me to have one to propagate your narrative...

see, a physical water bulge, yeah?

The apparent position of the horizon. This isn't hard. If the horizon is projected to 7 miles away then a boat which tables more than 7 miles away will be seen to disappear.

*moves

you cannot say apparent position and horizon, thats a tautology

On another day, the horizon may be projected only.to 4 miles

thats a flat earth argument

welcome to flat earth Pit 🙂

Only if you utterly fail to understand the point I'm making

oh i understqand, i think you do not though, but hey ho, not all will comprehend 🙂

@Pit Droid

You just cant say refraction

Refraction is the cause of all those effects

because you dont know what refraction is

Lol

Literslly says that on your link dude, if you don't believe me...

how much refraction is there in a cold climate vs a hot cliamte

do you know?

Depends on the temperature gradient at the location, the air pressure and the temperature at the location of your observation.

& you just can't say refraction you have to speak about witch refraction your referencing to @Pit Droid

So do you mean over land or sea?

over sea

Hey

One type of refraction. Refraction is just a thing. If you are asking what type of 'mirage effect' then I guess superior.

do you know Snells Law?

In both cases over sea you would expect the sea to be a lower temperature than the air. This should extend your sight range in the same way I described above.

Yes

so you know theres a limit to refraction, right?

Indeed

how much?

What do you mean how much?

I need to turn in but feel free to @ me if you want to elaborate on that/ask me more questions and I'll look at them tomorrow.

ok

U sound angry luke

just annoyed at this lil numpty

im legit wheezing

cuz of u raging

unmtue me

@lukethiel unmute mne

u need ptt off

on

*

off on

im a flat earther

@lukethiel you wouldn't unmute a flat earther?

get roles

aha

ah

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have roles no

now

can i talk now?

I can't talk either, guess it's prep work for tonight's discussion 🤷‍♂️

why cant i have more conspiracy roles

everybody in here but nobody talking

sucks

@Godrockin welcome

Livestream Voice Chat will be open to all to join in a half hour or so

for the show tonight w/ aPlaneTruth, James Munder, and Exalted Lamb

testing

test

waj

what is livestream

on the internet?

Yo guys

@everyone wat is livestream

What if the earth is actually a 3 dimensional hexagon

what if that's called a dodecahedron

thanks

-volume 20

link to the livstream

put link

@Citizen Z

ok

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEpI3ZQoVaxwoB4d5o9l3Tg

@★ ҉W҉𝔦†𝓒ђ*☾𝓻Λ𝓕T҉ ✩ no it's for people with no IQ

ok

Nobody was typing to you @Zor you random liar

What is so flat about the Earth? What are you just going to walk right off the edge, or go completely down in a 90 degree angle in the ocean? Seriously?

Wow

Can't say the word Ret*ard

F*ck this place you guys are re*tarded. How many space pictures need to be taken of the Earth before you guys figure out it's round?

One

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We should focus on Christ, It doesn't matter whether the earth is flat or not.
Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.

true but flat earth has converted some atheists to Christ

I am one of them

Arguing about them with other Christians is foolish

Since they profit us nothing

@Dylan4Yeshua It helps some come to faith, there are conversion testimonies of ppl who come to belief in a Creator and Christ with the fe.

Theses testimonies are thoroughly scrubbed by SatanTube.

if your faith based off the flat eath then thats not good

it should be based off Christ and what he did for us on the cross

whats going on here is really upseting

it doesnt matter if the earth is flat or not what Matters is Jesus Christ

stop judging people. God is using flat earth to help wake people up