Not something to care about

If the earth is flat it would mean a lot of things

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Why would the governments want to hide the fact that the earth is flat?

Control

@🍌ProduNababa🍌RealEricGuignard™

so the shape of the earth is the thing they change?

not the politics?

Politics are a puppet show

Not real

do you have proof of that?

Look up Freemasonry

Secret societies

🍒 👌

stop picking your cherries

https://youtu.be/ON8xq0djCRk

https://youtu.be/m7NXfuMhIwc

Funny how all the mainstream scientists are members of cults and secret societies

albert einstein, issac newton

Yes

do you have proof of that?

Watch the video

You are ignoring the evidence when presented

so you're going off of one (unverified) source, but whenever something opposes you, you need hundreds? and all evidence we present to you, you throw out the window, but if a flat earther makes any point, no mater how ridiculous, you accept it.

Sigh whatever

!mute @Juno no

Anyone wanna have an actual discussion?

I still don't really understand why governments want to hide the fact that the earth is flat

@🍌ProduNababa🍌RealEricGuignard™ many reasons but every reason may not be 100% the truth as we are not at the round table

They want to control us

Hide our creator

God

The elite don’t want people to believe that a creator exists
Which is why they indoctrinate us with naturalism and pseudoscience

What God?

We don’t know
But I believe it is YHWH @🍌ProduNababa🍌RealEricGuignard™

hahahaha

unmute

Read <#484513575801454593>

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@Deleted User

@Deleted User

gravity is real, space is real, the scientific method is not flawed

The scientific method is not flawed, just limited*

ecplain

explain*

great for explaining natural phenomenon

Come back in vc @Deleted User

and finding ways to predict how things will respond

but cannot be used directly to determine... say... historical events

if you unmute my boy <@409863297974927360> and stop having an orgasm over ur moderator role muting people everytime

it can verify certain facts

but it cannot say for certain that George Washington was the first president

what?

how does that relate to how the scientific method is flawed

you ignored the question

never said it was flawed

just limited

explainb

again

you havent explained

great for science

just gave some random "example

exactly

but it only works for science

thats why its called the scientific method

right

it proves facts

I agree with you

certain facts*

facts based on repeatability

ok guys arguing with a genius is hard, arguing with an imbecile is impossible

@Deleted User what did I say?

join vc

I can't talk rn... but can listen

ok well then no point in vc

I was just covering bases

before @California Nightmare 3.0 starts asking about metaphysics

do literally any of you guys have any sort of education or qualification?

like anyone

Me, yes

based on astrology or physics or engineering

in what

astronomy*

proof please

hang on

I was correcting you

and I am a glober, fyi

look at my tags

now

idc about tags

...

General Physics

General Chemistry

oh really?

can i see any proof>

Introductory Astronomy

Physical Geology

Environmental Science

Multivariable Calculus

at this point its cap

I'm thinking how to prove it without fowarding my transcript

what do you do for work

freelance tutor

why are you in this discord

Join vc pls

becuase I am trying to figure out what makes FE-ers tick

ok

can somebody unmute <@409863297974927360> please

@afd

the earth is flat and no curve has ever beenfound! they always try to convince that it's round by looking at properties that doesn't affect the land which determines if it's flat or round

thank you @He Cute e

How does gravity work on a flat earth?

Direction is just a concept.

@Secrette Gravity is a poor theory.

@🎃Oakheart🎃 How so?

It's not proven.

I mean I drop a marker and it falls to the ground.

Like what do you mean by proven?

@Secrette greetings

@Amthyric Hi

@🎃Oakheart🎃 @Secrette would you two care to enter vc so we can explain both perspectives in detail?

I can do globe just fine

but oak would explain FE

@Amthyric I would like to learn more about the flat earth model. I myself am not scientifically literate when it comes to space, and what not.

that's fine

I figured you would like both sides present

I wouldn't mind.

I can explain some FE stuff if no one shows up... but don't want to be misrepresent FE

I'll be in Flat Earth Chat

@Secrette if you want, I bet I can get citizen to explain it instead of Oak

explain what

FE to secrette

Sorry had to do something.

I'm back

@Secrette ok

So

Could someone explain to me the flat earth. I currently can't get into a voice chat.

@indio007 you or me?

A flat earth is literally what we observe, measure, and experiment with in real life. On a globe, it always has to be assumed we can observe, measure, or experiment with curve. When even if we do, those things break down. So the question for many who still believe in the globe is. Why are you still assuming it, when it has no tangible relationship to reality?

at 35 000 feet high on an airplane, you can see a whole area of 221 miles and there's not a single curve. crazy huh?

COOT

Can you explain the striped flag experiment?

No

If you’re talking about the one on Netflix? Yes.

Or discovery channel.

Atmospheric conditions do play a part in what you can see. There’s a reason they did the striped flag experiment over one of the most humid places in California. To obscure vision.

https://youtu.be/r1RRxR7W4OY

17 minutes into that video, they do a similar experiment over the same area of water, at different times of the year. Red pill philosophy found he could see further during different times, depending on the weather.

The striped flag experiment was a blatant attempt to deceive people. It’s called damage control. Since fe really can’t be stopped.

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What is up with that dang bot?

i don't know i guess

Someone is using bad words.

what i wanted to say without any insults is that mark sargent is a shill, he should've known that he needed to use a laser at a right 90 degree angle instead he used a flash light and held the flash with his arms swinging it around never making a precise 90 degree angle

There’s that too.

So do you believe the planets are globes then?

Or no?

No. They’re wandering stars.

look through a strong camera and all you will see is blurry lights

They have different orbits than the rest of the Stars, but they’re still stars themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abLKzCaenvE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dICIKYn5w4w

That video is showing how to focus on venus

Pretty cool if you ask me

the earth is the ground of the universe and the stars are just rotating around the earth in a planetarium. i don't know what's above us but i do know what underneath our feet with certainty

What's below us?

a flat plane, 70% flat

mostly flat

the most humans were ever able to dig down was 8 miles, that barely scratches the surface according to the globe model

And this is mars in focus, with glober assumptions.

We really don’t see terrestrial things like dirt, ice, etc. Every time we have from a mainstream source, or even an amateur, where they somehow saw it through a super duper telescope. They are using photoshop. Computer generated imagery. It isn’t real.

i think what is above us are spherical because if you look through a p900 you can see them change face during the day and this got me really excited, what if we were able to see the back of the moon in antarctica?

that would shatter the whole globe model if that was possible

but the elite are smarter than that, they block antarctic entry to everyone

except a couple of scientific personnel

The moon although round, doesn’t behave like any rock sphere/spheroid on earth. There’s never a hot spot on it from alleged reflected sunlight. It’s entirely unique.

I man direct sunlight is different from a lamp.

yes, it's really unique. have you heard about the cold moonlight experiment? a guy took an infrared camera and saw that everywhere that was in the shade was hotter than the areas that were affected by the moonlight

or photoshop.

Interesting.

Did he travel around and repeat this experiment?

i only saw him doing around his backyard and front porch

It would be cool to see it done in other areas.

Aristotle bolstered his belief in a round Earth with the observation that during lunar eclipses, the Earth's shadow on the face of the sun is curved. Since this curved shape exists during all lunar eclipses, despite the fact that Earth is rotating, Aristotle correctly intuited from this curved shadow that the Earth is curvy all around — in other words, a sphere.

For that matter, solar eclipses also tend to bolster the idea that the planets, moons and stars are a bunch of roundish objects orbiting each other. If the Earth is a disk and the stars and planets a bunch of small, nearby objects hovering in a dome above the surface, as many flat-Earthers believe, the total solar eclipse that crossed North America in August 2017 becomes very difficult to explain.

*the earth is a sphere*

*vaccines are good*

*9-11 happened*

*climate change is real*

*science can explain everything*

I honestly believe that 911 was an inside job. It makes sense if you think about it.

you've got to review all the evidence

not just the evidence you're inclined to review

I mean the towers fell like a controlled demolition. Our government is also not something to trust.

can you prove that the shadow that is on the moon is the earth shadow?

I think he already left.

did i now?

lol

what reason would nasa have to lie

I don't think they have a reason to.

https://youtu.be/hmx-DiWUqfs

literally, it's science

that can be easily proven

https://youtu.be/uXt1_dA2wBQ

they've lied in the past, you figure out the rest. the budget and deception made on the public is a good reason to lie

all i'd advise you to do is research basic physics

You don’t have basic common sense.

ad hominem, please expand

It’s not an ad hom. It’s an observation.

this is hopeless lmao

Personally no, but we know this based off of satellites that NASA made.

@nerdie02 we have evidence that nasa does in fact lie, yet you think that there's no reason for them to lie is evidence that everything against them is invalid?

Bc ur gey

ad hominem, there's a ton of evidence nasa lying

Oof

When did they lie?

⭐

lets start with the moon landing, remember when they went on the moon? according to the moon gravity and how tall the astronauts were, their jumps should've been way higher. the flag swinging around when there is no air is also good evidence that they lied. there was 2 sources of light in 2 directions, this should not be possible because there should be 1 direction of light that is the sun. they gave a fake rock to Holland prime minister, there was a mars picture that was the exact same type of picture in canada and they had a mouse on one of their mars picture

I mean they could of had lights in order to film on the moon.

Also the Earth's atmosphere amplifies our ability to see the stars.

the best evidence of it all, is that there is no way for you or me to prove that they went there or took any of the globe pictures. the burden of proof is on them to prove that they went there and there's none of it!

the only thing we can do is spot the inconsistencies to wake people up

I mean how close do you think the sun is?

Anyone saying they know for sure is lying. We know it’s local.

if you assume the plain is flat and do the stick experiment, it would be around ~3000 miles awaay

Precise distance? Can’t say.

Can you see the sun when it's night?

With a telescope"?

Not normally, no.

Shouldn't we be able to see it if the Earth was flat?

no way, it's on the other side of the plain, the sun is not hitting the earth with parallel rays where everyone can see it

What do you mean?

https://tenor.com/view/flatearth-gif-8521428

this is how it would look like, it wouldn't reach the whole earth

the sun is also very small