bruh everyone just left

literally one minute ago there were people here

and right when I get here they all leave

Im still here

very cool kanye

u a flat earther?

Yeah

oof

thats a bruh moment

Why oof

why do you think the earth is flat?

(this may come across as condescending)

sorry if it did

@Elon Tusk love the Rick and morty reference

thanks bro

UwU

Uwo

Lampz is really typing a thesis rn

1. Lack of curvature. 2. The physics of undisturbed water and 3. Motionless

Those have all been disproven

sorry

Show me don't tell me

Ok, i will

Well @Elon Tusk what proof do you have for a globe?

Water on earth is not "undisturbed", water can be affected by gravity, and this is shown in an example of waves

Secondly, what do you mean by lack of curvature

You are ignoring the fact that the surface of water when you put it in any type of container or anything will remain flat od level

Please show me a practical demonstration of water curving around a ball

Also gravity is a theory.

ok, the earth is so massive that the water may seem like it is flat

That is an invalid claim

the earth has a circumference of approximately 44,000 km

nvm it is km

You do know that the earth being massive supports my claim even more. The globe model claims you can see boats curve past the horizon

If the earth is so massive why do you guys believe in curving water merely pass the horizon level?

the only reason that you can't see this is because of the atmosphere

its like blaming your vision on fog

it is irrational

What do you mean by "motionless" in your claim

YHWH isn't correct

What please explain why you believe ships sail over the curve of this so called curving water. That is what you believe right.

the letter v is not pronounced like a w

and besides, it's pronounced like adonai

yes

anyways, the earth is obv flat

water does find its own level, but it is subject to other forces

Where did u see the letter v?

vav

...

What

i'm jewish

Same

YHWH in hebrew is spelled like yud hey vav hey

יהוה

like that

Which hebrew are you looking at?

anyway, your claim of water finding its own level doesnt apply to the earth

@Lampz wdym

The Yiddish modern day hebrew or ancient paleo hebrew?

water can be affected by other forces

modern day is not iddish

*yiddish

Modern is yiddish my friend

no...

yiddish uses much more german vocabulary

have you given up in this debate?

Then if it isn't yiddish then what is it?

it seems although you have

it's like biblical hebrew but the grammar is different

and new words were added

This is more important than flat earth.

^

I do not even know what you are currently talking about

The true name of our creator

And christ

it is yahweh

or emmanuel

Incorrect

one of the two

where tf did you get emmanuel from

just wondering

I don't even know

so hebrew is kinda weird

I think that emmanuel refers to the father, and yahweh refers to the 3

Hebrew reads from right to left correct?

dunno

I will google

we say יהוה instead of writing אדון

also yes

ok then

I will not google

Should we be in fe channel talking about this?

lol probably not

can you ping me when you would like to resume the debate @Lampz

Yeah

thank you in advance

thanls

@Lampz From what I recall it wasn't even given a form of pronunciation until far later

Initially, it was an acretion of visual cues

he isnt in this channel

at the moment

Like the name Mmrnmhrm

Unfortunate.

thanks

hey

Hey.

Hey

bongiorno

So, as I had inquired several minutes ago, what proof do you have of a flat earth?
(again, this is not meant to be condescending)

I sent dm @Thinky

I'm back elon

howdy

the earth is a flat simulation

^

And what are your main arguments behind this?

basic science

What type of basic science

how else have people just been able to think of stuff?

If we are to argue probability, via Occum's Razor we can state that probablistically it is less likely that the Earth is a flat simulation than it is that it is a sphere.

That'd be my slight rebuttal

Interesting

Of course, as Socrates once poignantly noted

The only certainty is in uncertainty itself

They thought of an idea, and it was added to the simulation if it was a probable idea

Ok, you believe in god right?

That's the thing, I am not arguing true or false, but of probability.

Interesting

And by probability it is unlikely that we are in a simulation

That is a different approach to this

Or on a flat Earth

Oh don't mistake my argument @Elon Tusk

i don't belive in god

i believe in the lizardpeople that run this simulation

I am saying the Earth is not flat, nor a simulation.

ok, but you do believe in a simulated universe

At least that is my inclination

proof

So, what is your proof behind the simulation, other than the odd nature of our world

https://youtu.be/ENsq_ejXnR0

P-1000?

Is this Granit?

It is simulation proof

what does the video state, I am too focused on this conversation to watch

My bad, P-1000 is Vulkan

What elon tusk asked for

Maybe there is a simulation, but I am here to argue about the topic of a flat earth, not a simulated reality

Wait, is that your YT Channel?

me?

No, Lanpz

Lampz*

The flat earth is directly tied into a simulated reality

In what way is it tied to a simulation?

Is it in the form of the government hiding things from us

lizard shapeshifting men have been hiding things from us for years

And what proof do you have of this?

In a simulation or a video game how does one thing come from one side of the map to another when viewed from going off right and coming back left?

Are you referring to the sun?

Or the moon?

Yes

I am off for a small bit, see you lads in a moment.

seeya

Byby

That can easily be explained by a spherical earth rotating

A spherical earth rotating cannot be pratically demonstrated. Nor can we deduce with any of our senses that it is spinning, rotating or orbiting.

Psuedo science

The earth spinning can be demonstrated with ease, it is far from a pseudo science, because the earth has been observed to be a sphere. You, as I know, do not believe this.

So how do I explain this to you?

who says a flat earth can't spin?

noone does

Then please with ease practically demonstrate to me a spinning ball earth

Let me explain to you another thing, one way tha you can prove how the earth is a sphere, is by timing your PING with another place that is far away from you. I do not know the exact numbers to use with this, but the PING of a flat earth and the PING of a sphere earth will be different numbers because of sattelites and the earth's curvature.

evading the question

I said that I flat earth can definitely spin

but it would be quite useless

it wouldnt do anything

No it cannot it is motionless

how do you know this?

Fixed, stationary

it could be

we don't know though

How do we know anything?

if the earth is flat, then how could gravity be in affect if it is motionless\

@Lampz exactly

that's what proves simulation

that doesnt prove simulation at all

Gravity is a theory that cannot be practically demonstrated and was theorized in a way to never be able to demonstrate. 1. Invisible force 2. You need a massive object.

We need to rely on our senses to make sense of our world. And gravity, spinning ball earth go against our natural senses

This is why I am confident that our reality is a simulation in which we are given these senses to make sense of our world

I would like to change my answer to a previous question, a flat earth could not spin because objects that are closer to the north pole would experience a lesser kinetic energy, meaning that if you were to go south on a plane, you would be moving away from your destination.

Gravity does not go against our senses at all, it is what grounds us

It is a invisible force that right there is what goes against our senses. Another the ocean water has to be clinging to a forever spinning globe and the same constant rate in 3 to 4 different direction all becaise of gravity

Complete nonsense because we can't confirm any of it with our senses

every force is invisible, it just comes from an object, like gravity

The water is clinging to the earth because of gravity and inertia

Do you not hear yourself? Water clinging is directly against the basic fundamentals of water and all liquids.

it is not actually

your false research is blinding you

I'll have to make this clear

yes, water finds it's own level, i've heard this argument so many times befor

but, it is also subject to other forces

like gravity

it is not clinging at all even

it is being pulled by gravity

Trillions upon trillions of gallons water for your model to work have to wrap around the globe in a complete 360. This means that water will be pratically upside down. And your evidence for this is gravity. If I ask you to show me the effects of gravity what would you do?

yeah

you seem to not have understood my previous message, it stated that water was subject to other forces, and not an immovable object

by your explanation, water would not be able to be held in cups

or drank by humans

it would not be subject to any force, this includes gravity

therefore, it would break newton's 3rd law

Of course it is subject to other forces. Forces that we can sense. Not invisible non sensible forces like gravity which is a theory and has nothing to do with science nor engineering

it is a sensible force

both fields of study that you have just listed somewhat revolve around gravity

also, as @Σ5 has just said, it is a sensible force

your philosophical concernes are irrelevant

that is what I have been trying to explain

Tell me then

How do I sense gravity which sense am i using?

your touch

My touch

its a bunch of senses

as well as your sight

Okay let me touch gravity

that is a very incorrect statement

It pulls you down causing a sensation

9.8 m/s^2 is just as good at explaining that feeling

your sensation of weight is due to gravity

Radio waves are a form of energy, can you touch it or sense it it? No, you cannot

but thr purpose of gravity is to explain more than why things fall down

yeah

it also dilates time

which may seem a little bit far-fetched, but it is true

Also, gravity is not a theory

@Elon Tusk thats a difrent subject

I guess so

Dont have to go to space time

lmao

🤔

I went a little bit too fa

r

In this simulation we are subjected to which this simulation provides us with. Water, Air, Earth, Fire etc. We breath in air so we know air is all around us like water surrounding fish. Why things go up and fall down is a fundamental of this simulation. As in all simulations or video games there is an up and there is a down.

how do you know th

is

It's like trying to explain to a kid which way is up they will point up.

Us being in a sinulation is unfalsifiable
Other than that i agree

True

There is many proofs for us being in a simulation

like what?

Have you seen clouds behind the sun?

there are obvious things and unobvious things