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So you have to see thru the lies
That shit's going way too fast, it looks like
The suit's pretty thin too tbh
Its sped up
The point is not the speed
The point is the trajectory
Oh I see it now
That is pretty weird
To be clear I think faking this kind of stuff during the space race is a very plausible conspiracy with a clear motive and also something that would be easy to fake. I still think the earth is round, but am open to other ways of thinking regarding that.
I am curious, though. For what reason would anyone have to keep such a secret?
I haven't done much research on this topic, or any conspiracy for that matter. From what I've heard, it's tied to religion in some way. I want to hear your thoughts on it.
Ill tell you later
Heliocentrism is tied to atheism and satanism
Lets think about your question
What reason would anyone have to keep a secret
First we need to know who is keeping the secret
Who actually knows the truth but lies about it
We dont really know for sure
now we've established we dont know who is lying
So all that matters is the truth
I believe most ppl just believe
Cuz they were told a certain way is correct by the mainstream
They just believe it
Is it conceivable that those with power and wealth would band together and lie to us?
That they would make a long range plan to direct our future?
Not really, no
Are there really that many rich satanists?
If so then I joined the wrong religion.
Lots of music artists
I always wondered why music went downhill in the 90s and now I can blame satanism
How much money would be required to keep everyone else in the world from finding the world's edge?
There'd be a lot of things that would have to be done on the regular.
That's the main goal here, isn't it? To keep everyone from finding an edge?
I dont know
It doesn't matter
Yes it does.
There has to be a reason
We can only speculate
Money. Power. Hide free energy. Hide a creator. Hide knowledge for power
But we dont know
So it is definitely happening for some reason but nobody knows why or how
People used to believe it was flat, right? Why'd they change their mind?
Becuase the church told them it was a globe
I thought the church supported the flat earth theory
Most religious ppl think its a globe cuz the church told them
Didn't you say it was tied to atheism and satanism though?
The church is satanic
They are satanic
Atheists hate god so they invent things to disprove god
So they made a religion that worships god in order to disprove his existence?
Originally atheists believed in god or gods
They just rejected them
Its similar to now
Atheists say they dont believe
But its more so a rejection
Atheists like to use arguments like
"if there was a god then why do children die of disease, god must be cruel"
But thats just saying children die. We dont know why god or the creator built things the way they are built. We just know it was built this way and we have to live it. We know this isnt heaven. If everything was perfect it would be heaven, which supposedly we dont go to till we die. Earth was built for us to learn and to have challenges i believe. It can't be perfect or we would be bored and have nothing to do
Fair enough, but why did atheists and satanists team up to establish catholicism?
To kill christianity
To subvert the culture
To control people easier
So how is catholicism killing christianity?
This isnt flat earth stuff
Because apparently satanists and atheists teamed up to establish catholicism in order to destroy christianity and promote flat earth
Oh? Do you have a different explanation?
Flat earth of course
We were talking about the motive behind hiding the fact that the earth is flat
You said jk when you said it was true so I assume you have a different theory?
Just most religious fanatics think earth is a flying ball
And as i said the motive for why someone would lie about earth is irrelevant
The fact is people have lied
I don't think anyone would dedicate so much time and resources for no reason.
Therefore a reason would definitely be relevant in this context.
Many people would have to be involved, and there would have to be a specific goal in doing that.
In order to believe such a conspiracy, I'd need both a how and a why. I have been provided with neither thus far.
Honestly I have no 100% idea why they do it but I could assume a few things
Ok so what reasons do you have that might be behind it?
Globe earth is the conspiracy you should be worried about believing
If you cant think of one reason on your own of why someone would lie to you then you prolly shouldnt be here
Just go on with living in a lie
I can think of reasons, I just want to know yours.
Just the basic ones as i mentioned above
What can you think of
We've established that there are many satanists in power. It'd make sense for them to want to secularize the world, since it would be in line with their goals to keep people from believing in god. Creating a narrative wherein they teach that the earth is actually a globe and many things can be explained through science would allow them to achieve that goal. I still doubt that there would be so many people that would be willing to go along with such a plan but that's the main reason I can think of.
I also don't think atheists would be linked to this conspiracy, since it shouldn't matter to them whether or not people believe in god.
O well there are a lot of reasons for a few examples: For money (maybe?), to hide more land that is on earth (unlikely), for power (also unlikely), for God (lol wat), because there is no God ( <:lul:484994724118134784> ) to more reasonable answers like: The fact that there is no life outside from earth and they are hiding the fact for our 'greater' good by continuing to push that we are on a globe earth and there are *clearly* things out there it is pretty obvious now that we have never had any contact from things outside of this world in 'space' and we wont ever. Going to another planet is also out of the question, and it will never happen during our lifetimes I can assure you of that so in the end it could be for money or they just dont want to know for another reason (seems to be all about the money tbh)
So you think people just can't handle the truth that we're alone in the universe?
You can't see what I say.
So they're keeping flat earth a secret so they'll have an excuse to go to space?
Couldn't they do that anyway?
They could, its just an assumption
Pretty big assumption.
It'd make sense if going to space wasn't their true intention.
But if they could go to space either way there's not really a point.
The point is, space as we are told and stuff they 'do' there isnt true
I dont think anyone has been to space period
What do they do up there, then?
Idk if they are even up there tbh
They gotta be if they're trying to keep flat earth a secret.
But even they are still searching for type of something from 'space'
Didn't they put a super powerful telescope on a big plane? Isn't that what the ISS actually is?
There's nobody actually in the space station. They just livestream a guy pretending to float.
The globe model doesnt pan out
Who cares about space
We know they lie about that too
Look at the clouds
Do you believe in outer space, Z?
I don't think we've been told truth about it
Just fed a story
Which seems cool but who knows
Is there just a ceiling, then?
Must be to keep us contained i suppose
The second law of thermodynamics
You cant inflate a tire without a tire
You need a barrier to keep everything in
Just tires specifically or...
Im saying i dont believe we are next to a vacuum with no solid barrier
Everything would be sucked away
Yeah we'd need some sort of atmosphere surrounding the earth for that
Atmosphere would be sucked away
Unless gravity exists, but it doesn't
Gravity is a myth
If there is a ceiling, and there is a vacuum on the other side, would poking a hole in the ceiling kill everyone?
Gravity wouldnt prevent the atmosphere from being sucked away
You think the little force of us being pulled to earth is enough to fight the vacuum of space
The globe model is a bunch of bs
Ok hun fair enough
So why does air get thinner as you gain altitude?
Also if the earth was flat, wouldn't we have a similar problem with the oxygen falling off the edge?
Or does gravity just go the other way on the other side?
That would make sense.
How would it get back, then
It's a mystery
But my model is a bunch of bs so I guess I shouldn't be talking.
You humor me
To be clear though space itself isn't a vacuum. Spacecrafts and the like are pressurized and filled with air. Space is relatively empty, which makes for extremely low pressure. This is what causes space to act like a vacuum. It's not constantly sucking.
I know what space is *suppose* to be
If earth was a ball the air would fall off the sides and bottom
Gravity doesn't just go one way
You never proved gravity
I thought you believed in it
So how can you explain the whole not floating away phenomenon?
Also I just figured there's an edge since it's flat
Not sure how it wouldn't have one.
It doesn't just go on forever, after all.
Thats true but the edge is non-existent until we find it which I doubt we will
There can't be a finite flat plane without an edge, hun.
The world isnt infinite to my knowledge
Where does all the oxygen come from, then?
Either an infinite supply is coming from somewhere or it finds its way back after falling off the world's edge.
At this point a bowl would be more practical
concave earth is a thing to be fair
Good that's not nearly as bad
It'd be impressive if that were the case
I still think it's more likely that we're all in a simulation.
But is the earth flat in the simulation? That's the real question.
It's a globe in my opinion.
But I definitely think the only way for FE to work would be if this is a simulation.
Flat earth does need god to work
So that would make sense
So I've heard
I wouldnt say so
Yeah not from everyone but majority
Especially if you include the dome
It does need a creator
Could just be a thick exosphere
I don't believe I have.
I'll look into it.
The whole simulation thing is really interesting to be quite honest.
Yeah I love those tbh
I think I can find his paper in the link
I can kind of agree with those points
an exo***sphere*** huh
Also filming the sun is bad for the camera sensor
Just putting that out there
if its literally in the middle of setting its fine
It could even be footage of an actual sunset
This guy filmed a ship sinking and didn't do anything to help smh
You still dont understand how ships disappear?
Its the angle of light
Coming to eye or lens
The ship was sinking but this globe earther didn't do anything to help