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@Sassy Undeniably here's the globe theory explanation: "We donโt see the far side because โthe moon is tidally locked to the Earth,โ said John Keller, deputy project scientist for NASAโs Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter project. โThe moon does rotate, but it rotates at the same speed that it rotates around the Earth.โ The moon completes one full rotation on its axis in the time it takes to orbit the Earth. That means the same side is always turned toward us."
The Moon is rotating on its own axis at approximately the same speed as it orbits the Earth. Thatโs why only one side is visible
Btw this is called synchronous rotation
@Logrian yep, i was definitely wrong about being able to see the far side. however, i still have a problem with how the images u post seem to conflict with each other. why would you post a gif of two spheres rotating above a disc earth then post an image that calls into question if the moon is even a sphere? its conflicting information
the omages are to get you to think, not saying theyre accurate or exact ๐
what?? why would you post things if you dont think theyre accurate or exact? are you trying to create confusion?
because we dont have 78 million a day
so we do the best we can
so the "best you can" is to post conflicting info and make things more confusing?
we know NASA always lies, an at the top theyre freemasons, so we can discount any nonsense they push as its for their benefit an agenda an not ours
im not talking about what NASA says. this doesnt concern them at all. my issue is that the info posted by flat earthers often conflicting and confusing
Your ignorance is going to have you with cogdiss in a second. lol did you look at what you posted or are you going to regurgitate the same thing we all learned. In order to wake up and understand why we have and issue with what they have said you have to first start with a blank slate and stop believing blindly what you were told. Let me rip apart what that said and what it really means then we will see if you are ready to understand that they get caught in their own lies by the statements they have made. First off tidal look is a phenomena which means it is a special occurrence that breaks all rational and logical rules to be believed by those who subscribe to it. That is where you first go wrong. second off The moon takes 27 days to rotate once and we should see all sides off it if it is spinning so slow that it takes that long to spin. But here again there is another hidden truth to that lie in that it can't be synchronous to us if we spin faster then it. Thirdly You have to ignore the fact that a rotation means just that that something is rotating independently so we should never see one side we should see 27 different frames every night as it rotates. Think okay
it stops us from using the monies to actually investuigate
Some people just need to pick apart what they believe and then that will help them see clearer
"tidal look is a phenomena which means it is a special occurrence that breaks all rational and logical rules to be believed by those who subscribe to it" that is not the definition of a phenomenon
Hell leave believes all together. Phenomena lol like if i put my hand in this fire a phenomena will occur and I won't get burned cause i said so.
what? lol
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noun
noun: phenomenon; plural noun: phenomena
1.
a fact or situation that is observed to exist or happen, especially one whose cause or explanation is in question. This means it doesn't happen naturally so saying it occurs is like saying the tooth fairy took my tooth and left me some money
definition of phenomena from merriam webster: plural phenomena : an observable fact or event
[01:05] NS Jones: im not talking about what NASA says. this doesnt concern them at all. my issue is that the info posted by flat earthers often conflicting and confusing
That is in question meaning it is not a constant and can't be proven
why does that mean it doesnt happen naturally
> a fact or situation that is observed to exist or happen, especially one whose cause or explanation is in question.
do you mean that flat earther a contadict fla earther b or a contradicts himself
I feel like natural phenomena are things?
They are observed
Some of their explanations are questioned
Yeah phenomenon is something that occurs that you just use as a scape goat when you can't prove it happens in any other scenario in other words it does not repeat.
@chad46 both
what
I think lightning is a natural phenomenon by that definition
That repeats often
well for a contradict b , we are not borg
lightning is a great example actually
nd for a contradicting themselves everyone does
it is an observable event, but its cause is not clear at first
however, it can be explained
It is not a phenomena it does not meat the criterion it is known repetitive and observable so miss me with that.
ok at this point your definition of phenomena is just incorrect
But it is by the definition you posted
Yes it is known the cause of lightning
@chad46 what is borg
The cause need not necessarily be unknown or debated
What you guys are trying to do is ignore the fact that if something rotates it rotates and the moon doesn't
Notice the 'especially' in your own definition
google is your friend
27 days of the moon revealing it's dark side is what should happen
@chad46 i dont understand
we know ๐
i mean, i googled it but i dont get it
Different slice every night should occur my good sirs. the fact that it doesn't shows you like to ignore it
pfft
youre saying youre not a hivemind i guess?
and you are discussing philosophy of science
But you guys will go giggle giggle it doesn't cause it has this phenomena of not moving for 27 days
even though we move faster and it slower
if i ask a globe earther how far is the sun on average they all give the "right answer"
sassy, im really struggling to understand what youre even trying to say. your sentences are basically incomprehensible
when asked how do you know, well thats different sitution
you know what I am saying You need to critically think and make yourself a visual with some potatoes. You can use any balls you might have in your home to put it to the test and see if you are just being fooled by them or them and your self. Put the potatoes on the table and spin one really fast while spinning the other slow and get to its' level and tell me does it not move to where you can see the slow moving ones different areas of it. I don't know how simple You need it put buddy.
Tidal locking is a result of gravity lol
No theoretical unproven bs either like gravity looks it in place so we only see one side so gone on with that fairytale
Gravity looks it in place?
Tidal lock ask yourself it is rotating or not.
Sorry I donโt understand what you mean by that
Yes. Itโs rotating as the same rate for it to complete a full orbit
Like Mercury and the Sun
Amphidromic points
Or even Pluto and Charon which are actually tidally locked to each other
They both only show one side to each other
No it is not it is rotating at slow speed and take a full 27 days to complete so you shouldn't see the same side every night
It takes 27 days to revolve around the Earth and 27 days to spin on its own axis
^correct
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi6FkABFcQY This is what i mean by it should't see the same side it spins just like we do as it goes around us so we should never have a one sided moon seen.
thats why you only see one side, according to globe theory
Thats true.
Supposedly we see like 59% of a sphere
But that is assuming it is a sphere
Itโs not complicated lol
Its amazing the odds of things with the globe
Something like that should of never happened
@Sassy Undeniably that video is not correct, though
for multiple reasons
either way you have to ignore the fact that if it takes 27 days to go around us and 27 days to spin on it's own access at one point do you realize it should be different on each of the 27 days?
wait ignore what?
It moves slow enough for us to see it different every night
So is it spinning or not?
and no, if it takes 27 days to rotate on its axis and 27 days to orbit the earth, that means you always see one face
yes, it is spinning
slower than the earth
Why would that make any since day one it makes a slight change it should be noticeable that it is making its rotation because it is moving slower then us so we should see this change.
On day 2 we should see a little more cause guess what it moves slow
this is really hard to explain in words
its much easier to understand if i could draw diagrams
No not really why don't you get two marbles and move them with your hand maybe then you can understand it better because you can actually do the rotations and marbles have different marbalization so you can see what I am saying.
We rotate 1 time every 24 hours bud
so
that means
we would be back around to see a different sliver of its rotation
all 27 days
before the face makes its way back to us. draw a face on one side then do it
a happy face on one side leave the other side blank
ugh can we just get in a call and ill share my screen and draw what i mean in ms paint
sure
wait what kind of call
still if you draw it you will be force to see reality
a discord call
how do you do that
hold on give me a few minutes
anyone wanna talk in the flat earth chat
It takes 27 Earth days for the Moon to complete an orbit
Earth days lol
Every time the Moon moves around in space it also rotates at the exact same rate as it moves, relative to Earth, thatโs as simple as it sounds really
can u add me to da call
i want to be in dis as weel
well
?
the two people above are in a call having a debate and i would like to participate
you're more than welcome to join the vc
oml no\
look up in the chat
err
you can still participate in the debate.
?
what
Compromise: the earth is a semicircle : ) still round still flat
no
Its round not flat
Of course
Itโs not perfectly circular though
It IS slightly flattened at the equator
Ironically enough
ik
I thought it buldged at the equator
yeah thats what i thought
Yeah it does
Oh sorry I meant it flattens at its poles
We ended our call and did not reach a conclusion but maybe I gave him cog diss i hope. Either way I am unchanged
Thatโs okay
Itโs still good to debate
Hello
the earth is round
Oh I know
The suns flat
Jupitar is flat
ok
Alright then
Flat
pp
!mute @J.Kawsome76
when the earth is round doe
it is round. and flat-surfaced. correct
Mmm
are you his bastard son?
we had a couple of television artists, tony hart and rolf harris
We'll put some happy little clouds right here.
Put a gray filter here, aaaand done!
and here lives.....a happy little alien. But aliens need friends too. so we'll give him a few more...
that's great.
I'd love to see actual poll results from a decent population set
I have no clue what it could be right now. but clearly high enough that CNN had to address it on their homepage one day
i have big pp
Iโm baaaacckkk
Hello
evening
So how are all the people around the world doing today
I have a question
On a flat earth, when rain falls from a cloud, does it lose gravitational potential energy?
How much static is in the air
None
Or not enough to cause an influence
Lol
Well?
aight
I dont know @SpiderLedgic (Cancer)
@Juulesmann 3 reasons why its a globe?
ok
ship thing first
i realize yall have those photoshopped videos of ships getting smaller
but I literally went to a ship festival the other day
Like what photoshop videos?
and watched
Itโs an important question
sorry my bad
ill find one
@Juulesmann goto voice. Chad says he will interview you
On a spherical Earth, gravity appears to pull objects toward its centre. Iโm not really sure how that would possibly work on a flat Earth
Yeah if u find a photoshop video of a ship let me know @Juulesmann
But for a proper flat Earth theory, understanding of gravity would be needed
i'm sorry but my mic simply doesn't work on discord
dk why
All water would be sucked toward the centre of the disc and that clearly isnโt happening
@SpiderLedgic (Cancer) yeah i dont know. I would assume its not pulling to a center or the center is uniformly dense and gigantic under us
@SpiderLedgic (Cancer) could you make a diagram explaining that please
@SpiderLedgic (Cancer) you are assuming a core
vsauce has a great diagram on his channel
have you heard of prntscrn
@SpiderLedgic (Cancer) you are trying to use the globe model to make sense of a different model
and paint
Shell Theorem
Ton of bad info there
Seriously talk about garbage science
i see a straw man
And in real life, if one were in the Earthโs centre, gravity wouldnโt act on you at all
How does gravity work on Flat Earth?
@Juulesmann that is all flat earth society bs
We can describe how it would work on a globe pretty accurately
we can see how it works pretty clearly
@Citizen Z please show me a up to date model then
it seems even flat earthers can't agree on everything
heavy things fall to the ground
ok
is there gravity on flat earth
Up to date model
Yes
There would need to be
There is an effect known as gravity
But it couldnโt work the same way it does on a sphere
You dont know how it works
globe earthers dont agree on the shape of the globe
Thats the funny thing
tell me more @Citizen Z
More what?
Apparently no one knows how gravity would work on a flat Earth
That agrees with observations
about this gravity that we "don't understand"
nobody knows how gravity works anywhere!!!
@Juulesmann how can i tell you more? I dont know what gravity even is. Warping of space and time?
is that so
Itโs the curvature of space time
yes
Weโve known this for 100 years
K what is space time
Nearly
Spacetime is the combination of the 3 dimensions of space (length, height and depth) with time
Time is treated as its own dimension
But what causes it? Why doesn't it translate from quantum scales? Why does it fail explain galactic rotations at macro scales? Gravity is an unfinished theory.
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