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2019-04-05 16:16:26 UTC

We have a sight distance problem even on a flat plane.

2019-04-05 16:16:34 UTC

We cannot see indefinitely.

2019-04-05 16:16:56 UTC

Even if all elements were removed out of sight.

2019-04-05 16:17:25 UTC

We cannot see across Just like we can’t see across a crowd of people who are the same height.

2019-04-05 16:18:30 UTC

I don't quite follow that... Might explain why we can't see infinitely far across the surface of the flat earth but the stars being overhead you should be able to see other constellations I would think

2019-04-05 16:18:41 UTC

Because your talking about such vast distances anyways to the stars

2019-04-05 16:18:54 UTC

Although I guess flat earth model stars are closer

2019-04-05 16:19:25 UTC

Well, there’s parts of Mexico that see the North Star, when they should be hidden by the proposed curve of the earth.

2019-04-05 16:20:05 UTC

I have seen many examples put forward of land masses or buildings that shouldn't be visible because of the curve but can be fully seen

2019-04-05 16:20:18 UTC

That's one that makes me question for sure

2019-04-05 16:20:49 UTC

Also the fact that they are always parallel. They don’t tilt like they ought to on a curved earth.

2019-04-05 16:21:21 UTC

If that were the case. We should be able to observe that, but we don’t.

2019-04-05 16:22:21 UTC

You don't have to read that but that's what I'm looking at

2019-04-05 16:22:31 UTC

The other one raised is time zones

2019-04-05 16:22:41 UTC

Supposedly can only work on a ball

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2019-04-05 16:23:04 UTC

Flat earth already has it done.

2019-04-05 16:23:26 UTC

Also that article mentioned Foucault pendulums..

2019-04-05 16:23:38 UTC

Those don’t actually work.

2019-04-05 16:23:50 UTC

Ever go to a science museum?

2019-04-05 16:23:55 UTC

Not recently

2019-04-05 16:23:58 UTC

They have them there.

2019-04-05 16:24:11 UTC

And if you look at the top of the swindle.

2019-04-05 16:24:16 UTC

And they are like battery powered or something right?

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2019-04-05 16:25:24 UTC

If Foucault pendulums really were based off motion of the earth, wrecking balls would never stop moving. But they always stop when unprovoked.

2019-04-05 16:29:04 UTC

So I agree that there are an awful lot of anomalies and strange things

2019-04-05 16:29:19 UTC

So what was the one thing that flipped you to truly believe flat earth?

2019-04-05 16:29:28 UTC

What would you say is the top proof of flat earth

2019-04-05 16:29:38 UTC

The most powerful evidence

2019-04-05 16:30:05 UTC

I watched that documentary flat earth clues / under the dome and it got me thinking for sure

2019-04-05 16:31:31 UTC

The top scientific proof for me, is that we do not, and cannot observe or measure any real curve.


2019-04-05 16:32:52 UTC

And we can’t experiment with it either on a model that’s a sphere, for that matter.

2019-04-05 16:33:54 UTC

All requirements of the scientific method, btw. That is what determines proof in this world.

2019-04-05 16:34:31 UTC

It’s why flat earth is not a theory, and ball earth is - because ball earth passes none of the method.

2019-04-05 16:34:46 UTC

And flat earth passes all of it.

2019-04-05 16:35:12 UTC

Observation, measurement, and experiment.

2019-04-05 16:36:34 UTC

But I've seen experiments carried out that disproved flat earth

2019-04-05 16:36:40 UTC

Done by flat earth people

2019-04-05 16:36:47 UTC

Like what?

2019-04-05 16:36:59 UTC

So I think it's jeranism

2019-04-05 16:37:28 UTC

You think he proved a curve at surface level when we can’t observe that at higher altitude?

2019-04-05 16:38:13 UTC

Please for the love of God, spare me.

2019-04-05 16:38:17 UTC

And he sets up a series of wooden poles of equal height at distances and each pole has a hole at the same spot. Then they shine a lazer through the hole. On flat earth the lazer should go through all the holes and be visible. But when they did it you couldn't see the lazer. It was below the hole because of the curvature

2019-04-05 16:38:35 UTC

That was what they said basically

2019-04-05 16:39:08 UTC

But you are right it makes no sense how you could have a noticeable curve effect at that small a scale but no visible curve in that picture

2019-04-05 16:39:10 UTC

A curvature consistent of a sphere that has a circumference of 24,901 miles?

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2019-04-05 16:39:36 UTC

OK so grant that the earth is flat

2019-04-05 16:40:00 UTC

Thank you. Glad to have you around.

2019-04-05 16:40:34 UTC

Haha thanks. I appreciate you discussing with me. I just want to know the truth. So do you believe that space is as described? Do you believe in distant stars and planets?

2019-04-05 16:40:52 UTC

I take a biblical approach.

2019-04-05 16:41:07 UTC

There’s the sun, moon, and stars.

2019-04-05 16:41:11 UTC

That’s it.

2019-04-05 16:41:29 UTC

OK so you don't believe in all the other planets?

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2019-04-05 16:42:22 UTC

There’s 4 of what they call planets.

2019-04-05 16:42:44 UTC

Different sizes and shapes of rotundity.

2019-04-05 16:43:02 UTC

Quite impossible for the distances they’re said to be at.

2019-04-05 16:43:26 UTC

OK but the saturn one there you seem to be able to see a sphere with rings around it. Can't be a star

2019-04-05 16:44:16 UTC

It definitely looks peculiar.

2019-04-05 16:44:22 UTC

But it’s not a planet.

2019-04-05 16:44:30 UTC

And it’s not a sun.

2019-04-05 16:45:03 UTC

Why not a planet?

2019-04-05 16:45:33 UTC

Because it also changes in rotundity.

2019-04-05 16:45:46 UTC

Terrestrial objects can’t do that.

2019-04-05 16:45:55 UTC

Celestial objects, yes.

2019-04-05 16:48:29 UTC

Unless some outside force effects the earth, perhaps then our shape would change. But not like what we see with the stars.

2019-04-05 16:48:57 UTC

So sun and moon are inside the firmament?

2019-04-05 16:49:20 UTC

I can only say that’s a belief.

2019-04-05 16:49:42 UTC

Though, it’s one I hold.

2019-04-05 16:50:33 UTC

We dont know exacly where the sun or moon are.

2019-04-05 16:50:53 UTC

we know they are lights

2019-04-05 16:51:02 UTC

thats what we can observe

2019-04-05 16:51:51 UTC

How do we know the earth is flat

2019-04-05 16:52:39 UTC

We went through some of the evidence

2019-04-05 16:52:57 UTC

Mostly you can't see any curvature even at great height it appears flat

2019-04-05 16:53:30 UTC

But how can you say the moon is a light? I mean it appears to emit light but it's clearly also a Rocky structure wirh craters and stuff

2019-04-05 16:53:44 UTC

You can see those with the naked eye

2019-04-05 16:54:53 UTC

The light from the moon is reflected off the sun

2019-04-05 16:55:13 UTC

@Derek Nelson the reason I can almost believe in a firmament is that it explains how the atmosphere of earth can exist beside the vacuum of space

2019-04-05 16:55:26 UTC

And could also explain why no one had been able to go beyond low earth orbit

2019-04-05 16:55:37 UTC

is the moon just some white light or is it a white ball?

2019-04-05 16:56:04 UTC

It’s a satellite

2019-04-05 16:56:14 UTC

a satelite?

2019-04-05 16:56:23 UTC

but why is it so big?

2019-04-05 16:56:41 UTC

A natural satellite

2019-04-05 16:56:47 UTC

The moon is it’s own light.

2019-04-05 16:57:12 UTC

It’s cooler in moonlight than moon shade.

2019-04-05 16:57:22 UTC

A cold light.

2019-04-05 16:57:39 UTC

It is not reflecting the sun.

2019-04-05 16:59:27 UTC

Even ice that reflects sunlight is warm.

2019-04-05 16:59:33 UTC

Why is earth flat and every other planet is round

2019-04-05 17:00:01 UTC

Yeah why everything is round but only the earth is flat?

2019-04-05 17:00:27 UTC

Are the rotating toys above a baby’s crib the same shape as the crib?

2019-04-05 17:00:42 UTC

Well if you make it like one

2019-04-05 17:01:25 UTC

Well the rest of the planets don’t rotate around the earth

2019-04-05 17:01:31 UTC

Does anyone ever travel beyond the ice wall?

2019-04-05 17:01:48 UTC

So Derek Nelson do you believe the moon is a solid body or just a light?

2019-04-05 17:02:01 UTC

Apparently some people have. We have mixed reports of beyond the ice wall.

2019-04-05 17:02:15 UTC

I believe the moon is a light.

2019-04-05 17:02:35 UTC

i thought people got killed by the government if they cross the ice wall?

2019-04-05 17:02:57 UTC

Not if they are employed by the government.

2019-04-05 17:03:23 UTC

Why does the government want to cover this up

2019-04-05 17:04:05 UTC

Like why?

2019-04-05 17:04:10 UTC

My understanding is the reason for the cover up is too hide the existence of God

2019-04-05 17:04:13 UTC

Because it would prove what the Bible has said all along. That there’s a firmament. Separating us from the knowing God is real.

2019-04-05 17:04:39 UTC

Why cant god cover itself?

2019-04-05 17:04:46 UTC

Oh think if we got past the ice wall we’ll go to heaven

2019-04-05 17:04:49 UTC

They don't want you to know the earth is designed by a creator. Even though that is obvious even on a sphere

2019-04-05 17:05:10 UTC

Theres heaven pass the ice wall?

2019-04-05 17:05:16 UTC

Just DNA proves the intelligent designer

2019-04-05 17:05:24 UTC

Heaven is up. Not across to the wall.

2019-04-05 17:05:24 UTC

No heaven is above the firmament

2019-04-05 17:05:35 UTC

Yes, there is.

2019-04-05 17:05:35 UTC

We’ve been to space

2019-04-05 17:05:44 UTC

But the firmament must go all the way down to the ground

2019-04-05 17:05:56 UTC

Sorry I meant to say no, heaven is above the firmament

2019-04-05 17:05:56 UTC

Like a tent.

2019-04-05 17:06:10 UTC

Soo there is another dome underground?

2019-04-05 17:06:21 UTC

What about the core of the earth?

2019-04-05 17:06:23 UTC

you wouldnt know would you

2019-04-05 17:06:32 UTC

I believe there is a vast space beneath the earth

2019-04-05 17:06:37 UTC

core. idea to explain a spinning ball

2019-04-05 17:06:47 UTC

its a guess

2019-04-05 17:06:51 UTC

Inner earth beings and civilizations and oceans and such all below the ground

2019-04-05 17:06:51 UTC

sooo there is no core?

2019-04-05 17:06:51 UTC

There is space beneath the earth!!

2019-04-05 17:06:53 UTC

part of a model

2019-04-05 17:07:04 UTC

its just a Lava pool down there?

2019-04-05 17:07:09 UTC

The universe doesn’t revolve around the earth

2019-04-05 17:07:16 UTC

Minecraft i base it from

2019-04-05 17:07:28 UTC

The documentary the principle says they proved the universe revolves around the earth

2019-04-05 17:07:37 UTC

I haven't seen it but apparently it's science

2019-04-05 17:07:44 UTC

we only observe stars and sun and moon revolving around earth

2019-04-05 17:08:25 UTC

if there is a space beneath the earth would it be like on the surface but upside down?

2019-04-05 17:08:33 UTC

cosmic microwave background radiation suggests the earth is the center

2019-04-05 17:08:46 UTC

There could be another world on the bottom side of the flat earth

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2019-04-05 17:09:00 UTC

Like a coin

2019-04-05 17:09:05 UTC

Wait if heaven is on top...
Does that means hell is below?

2019-04-05 17:09:14 UTC

what could be and what is are two different things. if you cant prove it, then its just an idea

2019-04-05 17:09:48 UTC

Hell / sheol/ gehenna / tartarus may be deep within the earth

2019-04-05 17:10:03 UTC

Soo thats why its hot the deeper you go?

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2019-04-05 17:10:22 UTC

Some say there is an inner sun

2019-04-05 17:10:31 UTC

inner sun?

2019-04-05 17:10:37 UTC

another sun?

2019-04-05 17:10:57 UTC

Are all planets flat or just the earth

2019-04-05 17:11:08 UTC

Well in the hollow earth model the earth is a hollow sphere with another sun in the core middle and land and oceans etc on the inner surface of the sphere

2019-04-05 17:11:11 UTC

Are there any other flat planets?

2019-04-05 17:11:14 UTC

So they have their own sun in there

2019-04-05 17:11:23 UTC

But that's a different model

2019-04-05 17:11:23 UTC

You already asked that, @waffleking and I answered you.

2019-04-05 17:11:31 UTC

No you didn’t

2019-04-05 17:11:40 UTC

Hello duck brother

2019-04-05 17:11:44 UTC

Hello duck brother

2019-04-05 17:11:47 UTC

Apparently other planets are made up

2019-04-05 17:12:07 UTC

But people call the other sun below the earth "Earth core"

2019-04-05 17:12:13 UTC

No just the earth exists the Illuminati killed all of the other ones

2019-04-05 17:12:14 UTC

The so called ‘planets’ are just stars. I totally answered.

2019-04-05 17:12:21 UTC

Some people think the earth is an endless flat plane of ice with little puddles melted out all around by small local suns that melt little pools in the ice where islands and continents are

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2019-04-05 17:13:28 UTC

The Illuminati is trying to kill all of the pro vax people

2019-04-05 17:13:47 UTC

Sorry this is my dumb friend ducktor

2019-04-05 17:13:52 UTC

Seriously guys

2019-04-05 17:13:53 UTC

He is a tad bit slow

2019-04-05 17:13:58 UTC

They are

2019-04-05 17:14:07 UTC

He’s about to get muted.

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Theres 2 ducks

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The ducks are powerful

2019-04-05 17:14:35 UTC

I’m just here to ask about the earth

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2019-04-05 17:14:58 UTC

I am ** general duckins

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2019-04-05 17:15:47 UTC

That proves it

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I'm trying to share images but they don't post :(

2019-04-05 17:15:56 UTC

The earth can’t be round

2019-04-05 17:16:01 UTC

That looked like a meme to made fun of flat earther

2019-04-05 17:16:29 UTC

It’s a plane obviously!

2019-04-05 17:16:35 UTC

Honestly though this stuff is mind blowing

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Mind blowing!

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You notice how the sun comes UP from the horizon

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Because it doesn’t move

2019-04-05 17:17:16 UTC

And have you guys seem that one where they show how not only is the earth flat from space but also has a local hot spot on the clouds beneath it?

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2019-04-05 17:17:35 UTC

I’ve seen that

2019-04-05 17:17:43 UTC

Mind blowing!

2019-04-05 17:17:44 UTC

Truly doesn't seem to make sense if it's so far away

2019-04-05 17:17:47 UTC

@Derek Nelson how do I gain art access

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And also how the rays come out from the sun below the clouds in a triangle

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How come I can't hear any audio chat?

2019-04-05 17:19:00 UTC

This is a text channel

2019-04-05 17:19:04 UTC

@waffleking optical slant

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2019-04-05 17:19:38 UTC

If the earth is round how come so many people get lost on ships

2019-04-05 17:19:43 UTC

Why is the government covering this up

2019-04-05 17:20:07 UTC

Why The government would do this?

2019-04-05 17:20:15 UTC

OK so the one thing that doesn't make sense still is satellites. I understand why they shouldn't be possible because of the heat but the effect they have is real. And there isn't any other explanation that explains it

2019-04-05 17:20:37 UTC

We answered already the government wants to either hide God or hide the existence of other lands

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Soo satelites aint real?

2019-04-05 17:21:12 UTC

Satellite are bs

2019-04-05 17:21:38 UTC

You know what citizen z, im gonna do some more research

2019-04-05 17:22:02 UTC

Did you guys see the recent scientific article saying the moon is actually inside earth's atmosphere?

2019-04-05 17:22:23 UTC

Really, thats pretty scary

2019-04-05 17:22:39 UTC

@SonyPS2 whats scaRY?

2019-04-05 17:22:49 UTC

What if the moon fall on us?

2019-04-05 17:22:51 UTC

Guess that means they didn’t actually have vacuum-safe nozzles in 1969.

2019-04-05 17:22:56 UTC

Have you seen any scientific article ever written

2019-04-05 17:22:56 UTC

So they’re lying.

2019-04-05 17:22:59 UTC

That the moon is so class

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2019-04-05 17:23:17 UTC

there is a story from ancient times of a "a time before the moon"

2019-04-05 17:23:23 UTC

the moon used to be the sun

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then broke

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I've heard saturn used to be the sun

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then the old sun turned into the moon

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then we were given a new sun

2019-04-05 17:24:00 UTC

And lots of people think the moon is an alien satellite and maybe evil

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its a cool story

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to think about

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True it's cool

2019-04-05 17:24:18 UTC

Your all morons

2019-04-05 17:24:22 UTC

The moon as a burned out sun

2019-04-05 17:24:25 UTC

Will that happen again

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