possible? yes. is it a theory i hold to be the truth? no.

April and just as simple to disprove

Where did the energy come from, start there

Disprove it

So what are you more inclined to then @OreoToast

Tell me where the enrgy came from

and then the matter

Well people don't know everything

random chance is what i believe. like i said, there are too many possibilities

then they hydrogen because in order to get all those things, you need the universe to have them

and also like i said

Yeah but where did the universe come from
@Brian (Fourth Amendment)

if there was to be proof presented to me that it was something else, i would reconsider my belief

And do you understand the actual chance you are talking about is about 1 in 1Tx1Tx1T correct?

No response lol

April you're starting to argue my point

chances of any of the possibilities being the truth are stupid crazy

No response was needed

lol

3:26 PM] Durpyturttle: And do you understand the actual chance you are talking about is about 1 in 1Tx1Tx1T correct?

you're doing the work for me friend

@OreoToast

That is the chance for us to be a random chance

yes

The point is we know it started with energy because we know the universe is moving apart and we can trace that back in time

And you believe that over God?

To a single point

We have a theory of it april

No proof

and the energy had to come from some where...

Theories have some proof they are not %100 solved but they can be like %99

yes, because the odds of the universe coming to be because of literally any reason are equal

Answer this

Where did god come from?

The same place your energy did...are you starting to see my point yet?

i have acknowledged that divine intervention is possible, but i have chosen not to believe that that is the answer

So to sum you up @OreoToast You would rather put your faith in an absolute almost non-existing chance over the {possibility} of God?

Well it's been fun

Have a good day guys

Its based on FAITH and its PERSONAL. I can not prove God exists to you and you can NOT prove he does not to me

The difference is that you have zero evidence that it's a god

which was my point from the beginning

i would yes. because this "non-existing chance" is equal to the chance of it being a result of divine intervention

ultimately, we don't know and that is the bottom line

and you have zero evidence that energy and the big bang came from nothing

You are aguring out of ignorance saying that something is possible so it must be correct

Glad we worked this out

That's a cop out mate and you know it @OreoToast

hardly

We have the evidence of universal background radiation

April present your evidence there is no God?

No you have a THEORY

aka FAITH

At least the other unbeleiver here argues from a logical standpoint you wont even do that

Your compairing scienceftic studies to faith?

the possibility of it being because of me sneezing too hard in another reality is equal to the possibilities of it being literally anything else

We have actual photos of back ground radiation

It takes just as much Faith to believe EVERYTHING came from nothing (big bang) as it does to believe in God

you just refuse to see it

God came from nothing if he's real

You're so close to getting my point..

go ahead finish it

you can do it

@OreoToast do you have a car

i have epilepsy, i do not

I will BBL God bless

There's some evidence to my theory well there is zero to yours. I wouldn't %100 believe the Big Bang but I am %90 sure of its existence based off of scientific data. There is nothing not a single shred of data at all not even a crumb to support god being real

May God touch you and heal you and may that become your new beginning.

Hello everyone, this is my first message on the server, pleased to meet your acquintance

And like I said, we do not know the origins of the universe. Until we do, it's all up to what you believe. I choose to believe we exist because of random chance, you choose to believe we exist because of divine intervention. I can respect your beliefs and I hope you can respect mine.

Gods real I walk with him

How can you deny UBR when we have pictures of t

Of it

UBR - thats the background radiation yeah?

Yeah

Yeah, well to throw it out there, science can walk alongside divine intervention - What if the bigbang was the result of a previous big crunch that just exploded out again

While we don't know

Gods real I walk with him

But you can't just assume something's real

You need evidence

and i suppose we'll never know, until we find a way to see outside of this universal closed system...

When God reveals things to come before they do to you

Then you know he is real

When you speak and and God moves you know hes real

I mean why would god create people he hates?

Why would god create gay people if he hates them? We have two choices

1. God doesn't hate gays
2. God doesn't exist

Agreed Noah

You believe the lies of man

God does not hate gay people he hates the sin your premise is incorrect

God didnt creates gays

April - having just 2 choices doesn't leave room for other possible reasons....

We are to LOVE the sinner but hate the sin just as God does simple

People turned to own lust through seducing spirits and influence of the world

God is an all powerful being I don't think he would have such an oversight

So @April you wanna just be a puppet with no choice to seek him and serve him

Sure he would he gave us free will he wants us to choose what is good, not which is evil but he will not force us.

What if God is not all knowing... what if all choices we make gives a tick of 'experience' in what God now understands to be true, because you've experienced it.... then we have quantum entanglement - that all choices have been played out in some reality...... so in that way God can KNOW everything...

How do you know that other gods aren't real?

After all of you raised as a Hindu you would believe that religion just as much wouldn't you?

we could be experiencers for the almighty

God wants people to believe in him

By choice

If god wants us to be free why would he threaten us with suffering if we do something he doesn't like. Doesn't that get rid of the whole point?

@April do you deny God entirely or just unsure

I'm a women of science I don't believe anything without evidence

Because he has a much greater plan for us but you have to liaten and hearken unto him for it

Well even in Hinduism, the Atman, is what most see as the almighty creator... the others are deities, or 'God in other forms'

GOD does not threaten you at all

What about Islam?

He gives you choices you decide on ... all on your own

You think live now is good imagine when Gods spirit dwells in you and you have him in yiu for eternity and have life eternal

that whole free will thing, Roche

😃

What good is a choice if you refuse you burn in hell for all of eternity

yep Bri

Free will, **shnap!**

@April we talking about the Bible

If gods creations are perfect, why do I exist? I am broken, I suffer from epilepsy. Why would a god create something imperfect?

We were created in his image we have the capacity to reason, feel emotion, etc. He wants us all to choose him

it is after all APRIL His rules.. He is the creator duuh

April, well going to hell, if true, is still a choice that can be made..... you still have free will, doesn't mean there's no consequences to decisions made

HE WANTS US.. LOVES US

Oreo who says you are imperfect? God sees you as his child

and he loves you

So why create people who even commit sins than?

Adam sinned we fell from glory but for a purpose

But He does give you the choice of LOVING HIM back or not

JESUS is the conduit to loving God back

By suffering and repenting to God we can know him his love his mercy his joy his forgiveness

April - I entertained the notion of this evil.... sins... that the universe was created by a demiurge, or satanic copy of the true God, we will never know i suppose

yes Noah

He changes us from the inside and that changes everything about us

Sin is the result of Adam and eves original fall in the garden they CHOSE not to listen that is no more Gods fault then you walking into traffic and being hit by a car because you chose not to listen to someone saying "dont do that"

Why would god put the tree there

Why not somewhere they couldn't reach

Because

We had to suffer to know God

Temptation - or also, it was the intention to eat off the tree, so to go through the process of CHOOSING to be non sinful.....

And why does god want to keep knowledge from us anyways

And his goodness

In fact are you scared of him right now

Not really...

That you may doubt his existence

We also become testaments of God and his might when he overcomes through you and you are transformed

I know im a friend of GODS so yes I fear but not in the way you perceive

The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, April. As you walk and grow in knowledge and love of God you will start to fear him less as you begin to understand him. Then you will start loving him

@April if he is real and the Bible is the truth would you wanna know?

Is god like Hitler than? Wanting his citizens to fear him a great dictator beyond anyone else?

I am objectively a broken person, my brain doesn't function properly. If a god loved me, why would he allow me to exist? Why wouldn't he try to fix the problem?

Oreo Have you asked him too?

There's no evidence tho

That's the issue

I can't believe something that doesn't exist

Maybe so he could he heal miraculously through discord that you might sing of him and praises unto God and his Son Jesus Christ @OreoToast

Your belief is totally your choice 😃 and your right to believe in whatever you choose....

And I can't ever truly believe in something that doesn't have evidence

I think that just being here is evidence enough of an origin creator

If god wanted us to follow him he should have sent a sign

wasn't Jesus that sign? lol

If you walk with him proof is every where

No, why would I have to ask him? If a god is all knowing and all caring, why wouldn't he take initiative?

The Bible Jesus prophets a flood many things God has done

Jesus was a man who existed as a religionous figure there's no evidence he came from god

he did send a Sign April..its called Jesus, 2000+ years of ACCURATE biblical prophecies coming true

I think every human being came from God imo....

And good ol' JC knew how this system worked!

It did Ain

@OreoToast so you want his healing when youbwont even acknowledge his existence think about what you say. Him heal you so you and you continue to believe a lie

The bible has been predicting things that just keep coming true thousands of years later and people refuse to see it

@HelloThere That is a choice YOU are making, I hope you reconsider.

Because God loves you and wants you to come to him

He was prophesised, and also whole systems have been created around the existence of Christ....

Hurt mocking and scoffing can and is forgiven

How do you every human being didn't come from a different god or just natural selection?

We know humans came from natural selection from actual physical skeletons so visit a museum of human evolution and you may see physical evidence of evolution

simple

You just need to ask

@OreoToast when you humble yourself and cry out to God with all sincerity he will heal you but you must acknowledge him and come humbled

April, Darwinism is 'still' just a theory.....

it hasn't been proven

Even Darwin admitted God most likely existed

@Deleted User devils lettuce??!?!?

it's not guess work

On the Origin of Species reflects theological views. Though he thought of religion as a tribal survival strategy, Darwin still believed that God was the ultimate lawgiver, and later recollected that at the time he was convinced of the existence of God as a First Cause and deserved to be called a theist.

@April if you only wanna believe mans lies you will never see Gods truths

Darwin; the father of evolution said that april

Ahhh yeah fair enough @Deleted User

I can't cry out to something that hasn't been proven to exist.

Hurt God will forgive that too

yes you can oreo step out in FAITH

@OreoToast then you wont receive him and thats your choice

Theory's is not guess work. The theory of gravity is a theory. You guys don't understand 4th grade science class materiel. Your confusing hypophysis with theories

IN FAITH.. Cry out to an "UNSEEN" God and watch the miracle of regeneration take place in your life.. 🌹 💖

April you're doing the same thing

https://highexistence.com/images/view/the-egg-by-andy-weir/ Have a read of that story..... May put some things into perspective

In fact I would wager that SCIENCE is your religion

The Egg.... by Andy Weir

Hope not Scientology... rofl

Y'all need to go back to elementary school

Says the person who just said "yall"

You mean Indoctrination....

It's legit grammar

ok fine Just remember that HE IS ALWAYS there.. waiting for you to just be His child ..

Everyone return to your indoctrination camps, believe what you are told....

class is dismissed

😃

It's a shortened version of you all

Like I said @OreoToast I believe to have Christ in me and have said if you would only cry out God will change everything but it requires you to acknowledge him know that we arent even worthy of his grace his love and his mercy but we ask for it anyways

its a hard nut to crack BRIAN when all you ever have known is deceit and lies

Also quick social thing before I go, religion makes a lot of sense in the context of organizing society. So in the words of Q from star trek, when we were "fighting over tribal god images", it was a good way to organize society.

...faith in what? the existence of a god hasn't been proven. i will have faith in people to help me. i know that medicine can help.

Hello There @HelloThere

@OreoToast thats sad

😃

JESUS CHRIST has absolutely nothing to do with.. "RE OGANIZING SOCIETY"

what you believe is your choice. i don't believe in a god because it hasn't been proven, and it doesn't make sense to me.

i'm going to bed

It is your ticket to Salvation and freedom

Goodnight @OreoToast

i will pray for Oreo

Fair point Oreo, I pray you will change your mind brother. God does not force anyone to come to him, we have free will so I am not going to beat you over the head to convince you

Double stuuft!! yumm

May God watch over you oreo, be safe and rest well.

Psalm 14:1 KJV — To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

**Psalm 14:1 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<1> The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. ```

you come a willing SOUL to JESUS .. He doesnt force anyone

you know when you have hit rock bottom only one way to go THATS UP

awww gone quiet

Luke 17:20 KJV

**Luke 17:20 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<20> And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: ```

Luke 17:21 KJV

**Luke 17:21 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<21> Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. ```

thats my favourite verse.... although Im not a christian

Petition to add pride emojis into this discord

Yep, the verse was in a short clip called 'The Great Dicator'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7GY1Xg6X20

I would sign the petition @April

@The Gwench yo

april I think we have some

Last I checked anyway

We need the FLAGS

I think you can get them by subscribing to Discord it gives way more emotes

You know you can go to google, find one and paste it in?

Yeah but it isn't an emoji

beyond that I dont think the server specifically decides what emojis it gets, does it?

I honestly I don't know lol

Thought they were all pregenerated lol

Ahh I did not know that, Hello

Thanks for the info

I think if you get Nitro - you can upgrade everyone on the server with perks....

I was tempted to grab that today but I did not see the point

lol

I don't tend to use a lot of emojis

Animated GIF Avatar for one....