All I know is that supposedly there's this omnibenevolent being who sends people to burn for eternity in the sky

Not from what I know

Atheism is agnostic

Well

There are several definitions

Agnostic is believing in a creator but you don't know anything about that creator

Is it?

Ye

I thought it was not knowing

Whether there was or wasn't

Well then probably not

Oh wait it's both

The definition of atheist I take to is a person who isnt convinced by a god or gods

Wut

Words mate

That's why you always gotta clarify the definitions before going into a debate

If you care about it, that is

Yeah, I've had so many agreements when that was the only inhibitor

@Credibly Charted isn't God supposedly omnibenevolent and omnipotent?

Yeah

It's funny actually because that's the definition of God that can be disproven, and theres this quote I love which goes

The only part of that, that I don't beleive in is Omnicient.

"If God is omnibenevolent and omnipotent, then, as there is evil on earth, is he capable of stopping evil but does not do so? Then he is not omnibenevolent. And if he is willing to stop evil, but cannot, then he must not be omnipotent.
And if he is neither... Then why call him a god?"

It doesn't go exactly like that but that's the idea

Ah thats nice, but if everything about god is true, then he must not be omnibenevolent, as Earth looks like an expieriment

@Pinnaplia you can't believe in omnipotence without believing in omniscience

Omnipotence includes omniscience

Well Omnipotence is all powerful and all knowing yes?

If so, our definition is relative as we cannot comprehend what Omnipotence is, so it would just mean power and knowlage beyond our understanding.

But yes you did correct me

For everyone debating with me about how east works on a globe have a look at this please https://youtu.be/rfunPaUrWwo

Omnipotence, by definition, means all powerful

Aka with the power to do anything

And it's impossible

I can disprove any omnipotent being you believe in with one dare

Ask that omnipotent being to create an object so heavy that he himself cannot lift it

Well, what if that being possed all the power in the universe, then as long as "anything" is limited to the bounds of everything possible, then he could be all powerful.

No that's not all powerful

Very very powerful beyond our understanding isn't omnipotent

True

Omnipotence is very specifically the power to do all things

But I'm trying to give you a better definition of God

I like that one the rock too heavy for god to lift

Your definition of God is like that of many others, by elimination

God cannot be omnipotent, so just make him very very powerful

God also can't be omnibenevolent because there's evil (not good wtf me) on the earth so... Insert whatever reason here

Im not trying to do that, I'm just saying if religious people wanted their definition to be correct, this is the closest thing they could get.

Aight I slightly misunderstood you

Mb fucking fuck

I wonder if the bot picks up edits

Hahahahahahaha nice

I would think for us to be created it might involve someone that’s not supernatural

Watchmaker argument?

To me, if there was one, it wouldn't be biological as that would inhibit its power, it would never die and would not be able to die as that would inhibit it, it would also know next to everything and would be infinitly gainign more knowlage without even trying. It would have the power to do everyting I can think of and maybe even more. (I have no idea if the laws of the universe can be changed, but it would)

Why does our creator have to be this magical being what if it’s a scientist in a lab looking at a million earths in a Petri dish

Earth round

🌍

So you're saying it'd be omniscient

Even emojis know it

Infinitely gaining more knowledge = omniscience

Basically it would be in an endless suffering and torment knowing that it will never know rest or happiniess as nothing could ever relate to it. The only thing it would have failed at is gainging its power.

@jeremy because universe

If that even exists, then I hope not (Talking ab Omniscience and its presence in a god)

?

I lost you

The scientist in a lab lookin at a million Petri dish earths that sounds more likely than the guy that can or can’t make a rock so heavy he can’t lift it

Well if its omniscient it'd know happiness so... No?

Yes but that scientist guy isn't omnipotent

So

And yeah, that's true that we can't disprove a non omnipotent and non omnibenevolent god

Why does the creator have to be omnipotent

Idk

What’s more likely though the scientist in the lab or the guy who can or can’t make a rock that he can or can’t lift

You tell me

I'm not saying that this supposed create has to be omnipotent

Oh

I'm just saying a god is impossible because omnipotence is impossible

And if a being isn't omnipotent I don't think it should be called a god

But creator is possible ?

Well

We can't disprove that the universe had a creator. But then what created that creator

Also there's a truckload of evidence against your standard neighborhood creationist belief

I just told h about the scientist in the lab with the million Petri dish earths that’s not ur standard creationist belief lol

And I didn't say I could disprove that

Though I can because you can't have an infinite petri dish

Why’s it have to be infinite

U think we are on an infinite plane ?

Yeah

Maybe

Maybe it’s a done

Dome

It being a dome wouldn't explain physics

We don’t know they won’t let us get to Antarctica

So no

Wait

What

How can we know what’s out there they don’t let us explore Antarctica freely

1. I was talking about the universe and AFAIK because of physics the universe has to be one of three "shapes" of infinity

Also

You can literally take a cruise to antarctica

Literally just go do it

Right now

It's there you can buy tickets

Yes but u can’t go exploring it freely

Ye you can

You'll likely die because, you know, Antarctica

No I don’t think so

But you can

Well you don't have to think so

Take a drone on your cruise

Fly out to the supposed secret military line

See nothing

Be disappointed

Come back home

How far is the range on a drone

Idfk

Probably not enough

Nothing is stopping you from buying a boat and a months worth of provisions, and a tent, and risking your life

I think u need some serious gear and the freedom to roam

Though

Bruh there is nothing stopping yo from taking a bout out there

^

Literally just go there

The Antarctic treaty

They can't defend the entire border of Antartica

Lmao

And Where's the ships

WE CANT DEFEND OUR OWN BORDER

Then

LMFAO

Buy a boat

Go there

Ez

U need more gear then a boat

What amazing is I don't need to prove or disprove our globe

Ofc none of the other flat earthers will believe you if you do because you're shattering their world view that the earth isnt flat

I just gotta disprove our fking budget

And that's really all that is in question here

Is some people being too attached to their egos to think for a second that their senses may be wrong for once

Look at north south circumnavigation last guy that did it didn’t even do it and they still gave him credit

Do it yourself then

Save up, buy a boat, and go win a novel prize

Or if you believe those are faked too, the truth

It's like... You have to make up so much sheet to believe in a flat earth

That ockams razor is actually dying of laughter in that corner over there

That thing died years ago

Lmao

It gave up

Wouldn't be surprising

To believe in a flat earth you have to believe that everything is faked except your own perception of the world, which you have to believe your senses are perfect for

Literally assumptions at every corner

I would dare say baseless ones if I didn't immediatly get blasted by conspiracy videos proving the next big thing or people using terms like freaking electromagnetism to sound smart

Or buoyancy lmao I hear they like that one too

Put bluntly the flat earth theory is just the result of the confidence-knowledge curve

@OctaviusWhoLost2fa The Christian God? Yes

?

Responding to the ping: "isn't God supposedly omnibenevolent and omnipotent?"

And the. Muslim God too

Yes

And I think you mean Islamic God

DunningKrugerEffect.jpg is the same as FlatEarth.jpg @jeremy

Whatever

The Greeks had it right all along!

I gotta go sleep its 3am

Goodnight

Thanks, you too 😄

Thanks

Time is a non semi collateral ectoderm that loops on an infinite time stamp

Stop

No

That's not a language

h

p x V = mass p x V x g = buoyancy

What came first the chicken or the egg?

Flat Earthers: gravity is fake, buoyancy makes things fall!

Buoyancy: *has gravity in the formula*

<:lul:484994724118134784>

Yo my fellow flatties

<:nasalies:485141702403686403>

!mute @Universe

Universe#6868 (569418372609998868) is now muted for '**Unspecified.**', alright? <:THUMBSUP6:403560443345371137>

So a globe eather was muted because he had good evidence?

i've been looking for "good evidence" (for the spinning flying globe) for over 5 years 🤔 to-no-avail

Invalid arguments provided: User "globe" not found

stars move as the earth rotates
the sun sets and the moon rises
it can be day in some areas and not in others
my astrologer buddy takes pictures of other planets, which are all round
all other planets are round so why wouldn't earth be
why does it matter anyways

Yes but buoyancy cannot replace gravity as buoyancy requires gravity to work

you sure are showing your total ignorance on the topic of FE

hey guys

Showing "total ignorance" says the ignorant one. I honestly wanna buy a weather balloon, take a flat earthers camera so he knows I didn't do anything to my camera, strap it to the balloon, send it in the air and stream and/or retreive the footage, watch it. And get a nice glimpse at the flat earthers face when our giant spinning ball is shown flying through the vast emptiness of space.
Bruh if you're going to try to insult a subject by calling it a spinning flying globe and then call someone totally ignorant, which is the same as stupid and you know it. Remember your on team falling pancake with ice cubes surrounding the breakfast plate.

And "good evidence" is literally everywhere.

Our planet would have broken by now if it was a brittle disc and not s sphere

Our planet being the only flat planet it just dumb, if y'all believed every planet was flat that would make sense but this is just desperately clinging to anything you can and you know it.

Our government wouldn't lie about the shape of the planet because THEY GAIN NOTHING, and I did watch that video and thinking there is a war between the Government and Religion is probably the dumbest thing I have ever read. Probably just about every church and definitely the freaking Pope has the means to purchase a weather balloon which is $200-$400 btw.

Our government would never be able to afford to keep this secret considering the costs of surveylance, making sure nobody at NASA leaks data, nobody buys a balloon and camera, and not a single country disagrees with this.

Anybody can go to Antartica and see the fact that there is no Ice Wall because nobody can stop you. There is no. Military wall. Have you seen how big the border of Antartica is? WE CANT PROTECT OUR OWN BORDER.

If you think you have any other proof come at me because you trying to win a battle that you lost BEFORE YOU EXISTED.

I will probably get muted for daring to completely flatten every peice of proof that I have seen so if I do... Guess that means I win.

None of this is trying to insult or demean you, I'm just sick of this unending Pride and Ego.

I accept defeat and being wrong, others need to do the same.

Lol sorry Rossm what up

All good

The earth is a boomerang btw

Nah it's actually in the shape of a half eaten waffle

wow thats actually a good argument fr man

Which one the book I just wrote or the waffle?

both

Lol

ignroance isnt stupoid, its lack of knowledge, about whatever

@Pinnaplia btw, its you're .. you're = you are
and, you dont even come to my ankles on this subject nor any other, for that matter, ..m'kay sleepyhead?!

Falling pancake? nope. Not even close.

woah mike my man calm down we all know the earth is flat

wait

wait for it

wait for it

I wrote this on a phone and im not Shakespeare.

Plus I hope you know that insulting my Grammer and not my points say a lot more about you than it does me.

SIKE

woah#

u dont even believ in the ice walls (ICE SHELVES?) 🤔

that sike took a lot out of me

even Greenland has ice shelevs

oi mike is that ur last name bcos ur gf has no tits

Ross woah man this is civil debate

Civilllll

woah ross

Do a delete

debate? you look like you're in "Romper Room" (knowledge-level) on the subject
@Pinnaplia

there is no debate

you're IGNORANT..

Jokes on you

Idk what Romper room is

come talk to me after 5+ years of FE..

woah sorry guys

joke is on you kiddo .. @Pinnaplia ....
.

u missed the you mike son

Mike can you afford $200-400?

Is looking at your so called flat Earth worth that to you?

i'll show you >>317000 feet, altitude ..no curve
NASA Footage

you're a small-fry

Depends on weather and degrees of vision

YES YOU GET IT

smh..

huh?

Small fry!

I am small

oh

That's the POINT

We're to small to eaisly see the curve so you gotta go hiiiiiiigh and see wide

Otherwise it will always look flat

how high? 🤔

~~@Pinnaplia~~ \ you're way out of your little leagues

Think about 35k ft is the absolute minimum in perfect condition but I'm not positive

as i said -- out of your little leagues..

And that memes is wrong because it's comparing land curvature to atmospheric curvature

Alright, @mdlting has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

ok

Fine

why does the shape of the earth matter