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2019-04-22 23:44:13 UTC

you'd have to load the rock onto a vehicle that can be levitated with magnets

2019-04-22 23:44:25 UTC

unless the rock is somehow magnetic it would be impossible to do otherwise

2019-04-22 23:45:16 UTC

and the sound one u could lift right off the ground ?

2019-04-22 23:45:21 UTC

no

2019-04-22 23:45:30 UTC

you'd have to get speakers under it

2019-04-22 23:46:06 UTC

yeah i dont think the tech in that is too advanced yet

2019-04-22 23:46:15 UTC

ill tellu what im psyched about is 3d printing

2019-04-22 23:46:33 UTC

in like 10 years we'll probably have inexpensive 3d printing with metal

2019-04-22 23:46:35 UTC

which will be sick

2019-04-22 23:46:43 UTC

im thinkin anything

2019-04-22 23:46:49 UTC

rubber pplatic metal food

2019-04-22 23:46:57 UTC

composite wood whatever u wanted

2019-04-22 23:47:08 UTC

3d printing with organic materials would definitely take longer

2019-04-22 23:47:12 UTC

instead of buying a sneaker in the store u print them

2019-04-22 23:47:17 UTC

i'd estimate 30 years minimum

2019-04-22 23:47:19 UTC

ok forget food

2019-04-22 23:47:24 UTC

rubber and all that

2019-04-22 23:47:29 UTC

plastic metal

2019-04-22 23:47:36 UTC

rubber can already be printed with, as well as plastic

2019-04-22 23:47:42 UTC

metal can be printed with but it

2019-04-22 23:47:46 UTC

's really expensive

2019-04-22 23:47:48 UTC

yeah but the ones for like hobbyists is just plastic right

2019-04-22 23:47:58 UTC

nah you can do rubber too

2019-04-22 23:48:04 UTC

depends on the printer you buy

2019-04-22 23:48:07 UTC

prolly mad expensive ?

2019-04-22 23:48:09 UTC

yeah

2019-04-22 23:48:18 UTC

the higher end ones definitely are expensive

2019-04-22 23:48:25 UTC

i know ive looked lol

2019-04-22 23:48:33 UTC

im waiting till the tech gets a little better

2019-04-22 23:48:53 UTC

need to be able to print more useful items to make it worth it before i buy

2019-04-22 23:48:56 UTC

like i said in ten years metal printing will probably be affordable enough to do in a home

2019-04-22 23:49:45 UTC

i hope

2019-04-22 23:49:56 UTC

i wouldnt doubt technology gets supressed on us

2019-04-22 23:50:20 UTC

wym

2019-04-22 23:50:26 UTC

like tech getting hidden?

2019-04-22 23:50:31 UTC

yeah

2019-04-22 23:50:34 UTC

eh

2019-04-22 23:50:37 UTC

im sure it happens u think?

2019-04-22 23:50:39 UTC

i doubt 3d printing tech would

2019-04-22 23:50:53 UTC

it definitely happens with other stuff

2019-04-22 23:51:04 UTC

yeah the main suspect for me is batterries

2019-04-22 23:51:14 UTC

valid

2019-04-22 23:51:18 UTC

Alright, @Siriusly has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-04-22 23:51:24 UTC

battery tech is kinda garbage

2019-04-22 23:51:27 UTC

second main culprit is cures

2019-04-22 23:51:34 UTC

smh stupid censor that only works on non-mods

2019-04-22 23:52:10 UTC

well think about it some guy invents a battery the size of a cell phone that can make ur car travel 300 miles. how much does the big oil companies offer him for it for the patent

2019-04-22 23:52:27 UTC

1 billion dollars ?

2019-04-22 23:52:44 UTC

100 billion big oil is like trillions a year they make

2019-04-22 23:53:12 UTC

they'd probably offer more than just a billion for something like that

2019-04-22 23:53:22 UTC

cures are probably not hidden from us

2019-04-22 23:53:25 UTC

just not researched

2019-04-22 23:53:38 UTC

it's more profitable to treat the symptoms than cure the disease

2019-04-22 23:53:53 UTC

no i dont think so

2019-04-22 23:53:57 UTC

well y es and no

2019-04-22 23:54:16 UTC

its mroe profitable to treat the disease but make ur treatment have side effects that makes u need more medicine they sell

2019-04-22 23:54:28 UTC

thats the best

2019-04-22 23:54:39 UTC

eh idk about side effects

2019-04-22 23:55:06 UTC

if u can have ur medicine make constipation be a side effect and u also sell a laxative lol

2019-04-22 23:55:40 UTC

but yeah ur right def more proftable to treat that cure

2019-04-22 23:56:40 UTC

so what are u sir globe flat or not sure

2019-04-22 23:56:55 UTC

globe.

2019-04-22 23:57:09 UTC

u dont sound like a globe person

2019-04-22 23:57:22 UTC

i just like questioning everything

2019-04-22 23:57:27 UTC

yeah me too

2019-04-22 23:58:01 UTC

some things should be

2019-04-22 23:58:03 UTC

questioned

2019-04-22 23:58:19 UTC

im questioning the globe idk anymore

2019-04-22 23:58:19 UTC

everything should be questioned

2019-04-22 23:59:51 UTC

even the globe ?

2019-04-23 00:00:54 UTC

if it can be proved there's nothing wrong with questioning it.

2019-04-23 00:01:57 UTC

according to lawrence krauss some things shouldnt be questioned

2019-04-23 00:02:08 UTC

and what are those things?

2019-04-23 00:02:28 UTC

evolution or the big bang i forgot what he said

2019-04-23 00:03:01 UTC

why shouldn't those be questioned though

2019-04-23 00:03:17 UTC

questions lead to research and research leads to more knowledge

2019-04-23 00:04:14 UTC

well idk thats how science works these days

2019-04-23 00:04:29 UTC

some things dont need to be questioned they are fact undebatable

2019-04-23 00:05:09 UTC

then u hear michio kaku tell us how terrible the science of space is

2019-04-23 00:05:39 UTC

then i see video and photos from space which is supposed to be evidence and they look faked or have serious anomolies

2019-04-23 00:06:11 UTC

i also have a problem with history

2019-04-23 00:06:24 UTC

the layers of the earth

2019-04-23 00:06:30 UTC

evolution and the big bang

2019-04-23 00:06:36 UTC

the real age of dinosaurs

2019-04-23 00:08:10 UTC

i have a serious issue with antarctica

2019-04-23 00:08:16 UTC

many issues

2019-04-23 00:08:33 UTC

like what?

2019-04-23 00:08:53 UTC

what with antarctica

2019-04-23 00:08:55 UTC

?

2019-04-23 00:08:59 UTC

yeah

2019-04-23 00:09:01 UTC

tell me

2019-04-23 00:09:04 UTC

ye

2019-04-23 00:09:11 UTC

we cant freely explore it

2019-04-23 00:09:28 UTC

idk if globe people and flat people agree on this

2019-04-23 00:09:52 UTC

to me it doesnt sound like u can ive never tried

2019-04-23 00:09:58 UTC

you can't iirc

2019-04-23 00:10:05 UTC

unless you're a scientist going for research

2019-04-23 00:10:08 UTC

ok

2019-04-23 00:10:15 UTC

that is my first problem with it

2019-04-23 00:10:15 UTC

even civilian scientists can go

2019-04-23 00:10:24 UTC

but they cant go freely explore

2019-04-23 00:10:30 UTC

they go to the science base

2019-04-23 00:10:33 UTC

Alright, @Siriusly has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-04-23 00:10:52 UTC

it's basically a law in place to keep idiots from screwing with the untouched nature

2019-04-23 00:11:06 UTC

ok so we cant freely explore there that is my first problem

2019-04-23 00:11:13 UTC

since you have to at least be a scientist to go there

2019-04-23 00:11:21 UTC

the people there are much more qualified to be there

2019-04-23 00:11:26 UTC

it makes sense

2019-04-23 00:11:36 UTC

yeah ok but even those people arent exploring they go to the science camps

2019-04-23 00:11:38 UTC

protect the research site

2019-04-23 00:11:56 UTC

yeah the science camps where they perform research on stuff there

2019-04-23 00:12:03 UTC

ok so noone is freely exploring

2019-04-23 00:12:07 UTC

i cant go explore there

2019-04-23 00:12:11 UTC

nope

2019-04-23 00:12:15 UTC

ok that is my first problem

2019-04-23 00:12:23 UTC

i dont get why

2019-04-23 00:12:30 UTC

u dont know why thats a problem

2019-04-23 00:12:35 UTC

i can go everywhere else on earth

2019-04-23 00:12:48 UTC

but there where flat earth claims the dome or edge or whatever is

2019-04-23 00:12:51 UTC

can you go into other national research sites

2019-04-23 00:13:11 UTC

prolly not but they got the whole continent

2019-04-23 00:13:32 UTC

and there are other countries with many other research sites not allowing you to enter

2019-04-23 00:13:55 UTC

is their any other research sites the size of a massive continent

2019-04-23 00:14:09 UTC

of course not

2019-04-23 00:14:15 UTC

people live on the other continents

2019-04-23 00:14:34 UTC

you can't research nature if humans have lived there

2019-04-23 00:15:09 UTC

so its not a problem for u that we cant go explore where the flat earth is claiming the edge is

2019-04-23 00:15:22 UTC

it really isn't

2019-04-23 00:15:24 UTC

it could end the debate

2019-04-23 00:15:33 UTC

its a problem for me

2019-04-23 00:15:33 UTC

they only claim there's an edge there because no one can go there

2019-04-23 00:15:45 UTC

well its awful convient we cant go there

2019-04-23 00:15:57 UTC

well anyways thats my first problem with antarctica

2019-04-23 00:16:13 UTC

it's only convenient because people use it

2019-04-23 00:16:23 UTC

well maybe

2019-04-23 00:16:35 UTC

its a problem in my eyes

2019-04-23 00:16:44 UTC

u wanna hear the second problem lol

2019-04-23 00:16:58 UTC

sure

2019-04-23 00:17:10 UTC

north south circumnavigation

2019-04-23 00:17:44 UTC

pretty short list and if u look at the path the last guy took he didnt even do it and they gave him credit anyways

2019-04-23 00:22:10 UTC

3rd problem is the climate compared to the north pol

2019-04-23 00:22:13 UTC

pole

2019-04-23 00:22:29 UTC

4th problem is the 24 hour sun

2019-04-23 00:23:01 UTC

i saw a 24 hour sun video before then i watched the debunked video on it

2019-04-23 00:23:11 UTC

their should be hundreds of them

2019-04-23 00:31:15 UTC

@โœงMike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)โœง Already wrote about this but I can't find it sooooo.

BIBLE IS NOT A VALID SOURCE
People wrote the Bible and back then people believed that earth was flat because they had horrid tech and they had complete faith in the church. Now that we have actual evidence you still cling to a book that is not only inbeliveably old, but a book that has also been translated countless time!

2019-04-23 00:32:13 UTC

Sorry for the late post but I gotta defend myseld, even in a battle I know I've won.

2019-04-23 00:34:31 UTC

You'd think after all of this, some flat earthers would have gotten a camera and a big balloon, hit record, and streamed the whole thing to himself and then be either surprised or embarrassed at the fact that we don't live on a brittle and impossible frisbee

2019-04-23 00:36:28 UTC

they have taken high altitude balloons up and it shows a flat horizon at 120k feet high

2019-04-23 00:36:39 UTC

u havent seen the footage ?

2019-04-23 00:37:11 UTC

Jeremy, the earth is massive, it's going to look flat at first. See what happens when they go higher

2019-04-23 00:37:36 UTC

how high before u see a cirve

2019-04-23 00:37:39 UTC

curve

2019-04-23 00:38:00 UTC

If I put a tiny tiny little insect on a beach ball, they wouldn't know it was a ball. If they had that kind of intelligence.

2019-04-23 00:38:15 UTC

Lemme check

2019-04-23 00:38:50 UTC

u would think at 120k feet you would see a curve idk

2019-04-23 00:39:05 UTC

10.5k meters

2019-04-23 00:39:08 UTC

youd be surprised i think

2019-04-23 00:39:15 UTC

So about 3x what you said

2019-04-23 00:39:29 UTC

Wait no my math sucks

2019-04-23 00:39:54 UTC

Bruh at 120k you'd see the curve, you watched a hoax

2019-04-23 00:40:02 UTC

Either that or terrible footage

2019-04-23 00:42:02 UTC

well ive seen a couple of them

2019-04-23 00:43:21 UTC

father said youd be surprised what did u mean by that you have to be higher ?

2019-04-23 00:43:48 UTC

pin is saying 120k feet u see the curve are u saying no father u gotta be higher

2019-04-23 00:43:50 UTC

?

2019-04-23 00:45:52 UTC

whats the math for how high up u need to be to see the curve

2019-04-23 00:47:06 UTC

i cant wait to see this formula

2019-04-23 00:54:00 UTC

is their a formula for it

2019-04-23 00:55:38 UTC

u guys fell asleep ?

2019-04-23 00:56:20 UTC

Nah I was playing D2

2019-04-23 00:56:33 UTC

diablo 2?

2019-04-23 00:56:37 UTC

Destiny

2019-04-23 00:56:41 UTC

oh

2019-04-23 00:57:22 UTC

There isn't a formula that I'm aware of but I have read that 35k ft in perfect condition is the start of seeing a curve

2019-04-23 00:59:32 UTC

35k feet idk

are u drunk?

2019-04-23 01:00:03 UTC

All I know is that you gotta be fking high up in the atmosphere

Did oyu NOT SEE someonnnnnneee ASKED ME for Scripturessss that SUPPORT a "FE" etc

2019-04-23 01:00:14 UTC

MKAY

2019-04-23 01:00:15 UTC

MAKY

2019-04-23 01:00:19 UTC

Derp merpdepr

feel stewpit now?

2019-04-23 01:00:21 UTC

mkay

2019-04-23 01:00:23 UTC

stewpit

2019-04-23 01:00:24 UTC

haha

2019-04-23 01:00:26 UTC

stewpit

or, you feel stoopid?

which one
@Pinnaplia
Stewpit, or stoopid?
.

2019-04-23 01:02:45 UTC

waot

2019-04-23 01:02:56 UTC

can you givee me the link

2019-04-23 01:03:12 UTC

i dont think we should bring the bible into science

2019-04-23 01:03:30 UTC

i mean a creator does make more sense than everything came from nothing but still

Am i in a bad episode of The Twilight Zone? ๐Ÿค”

WHAT PART DONT YOU PEOPLE GET?

2019-04-23 01:05:49 UTC

the big bang sounds silly to me everything came from nothing thats crazy talk lol

it makes chaotic sense

something had to come from nothing in the beginning

2019-04-23 01:07:11 UTC

its funny when u hear lawrence krauss tell us how everything came from nothin

2019-04-23 01:07:39 UTC

something came from nothing idk doesnt make sense to me i gotta jet though ill see u guys later

2019-04-23 01:08:51 UTC

It's not as a stable theory as people want it to be

2019-04-23 01:09:03 UTC

It's just a very good educated guess of how we got here @ใƒ‘ใƒผใƒˆใƒŠใƒผใ‚ญใƒฉใƒผ

something had to start it all lol

2019-04-23 01:09:52 UTC

Eh

2019-04-23 01:10:02 UTC

Having a hard time replying to that

2019-04-23 01:11:04 UTC

Why does it have to have a start

2019-04-23 01:11:19 UTC

I think our human minds just aren't able to comprehend the universe

2019-04-23 01:11:20 UTC

That's how humans are with a lot of things

2019-04-23 01:11:25 UTC

We're too limited by experience

2019-04-23 01:11:28 UTC

At least they assume everything has a starting

2019-04-23 01:11:30 UTC

And imagination

2019-04-23 01:11:49 UTC

I agree actually

2019-04-23 01:11:53 UTC

I believe in the big bang

2019-04-23 01:11:54 UTC

But

2019-04-23 01:12:19 UTC

I believe it was the result of quantum fluctuations in another already existing, and by that point dead, universe

2019-04-23 01:12:39 UTC

And that it all had no beggining

2019-04-23 01:12:44 UTC

It just always ways

2019-04-23 01:12:55 UTC

I can't put it to words because I myself don't fully comprehend it

2019-04-23 01:13:37 UTC

I also think that the cycle will continue until some intelligent race finds a way to revert entropy, or maybe they already have and are living somewhere in a universe that contains this one

2019-04-23 01:13:53 UTC

I believe that the universe always was

2019-04-23 01:13:59 UTC

Or it may not even be possible

2019-04-23 01:14:05 UTC

No proof that it couldn't be have always been there

2019-04-23 01:14:17 UTC

Don't go there

2019-04-23 01:14:27 UTC

Don't go by "there's no proof otherwise"

2019-04-23 01:14:43 UTC

It'll lead you down paths that you don't wanna go down

2019-04-23 01:14:50 UTC

Right

2019-04-23 01:15:47 UTC

A better way to explain the big bang is that once in awhile matter would form as two parts, matter and antimatter, somehow during that infinity matter outweighed antimatter and more matter was created.

Or if your like me you'd believe that back an unknown amount of time something destroyed the entire everything and was left alone, this being either felt alone or felt bad about destroying everything and decided to create something. Thus our universe was born. Then you just put that on an infinite cycle. Of course the details are hazy and unexplained because I'm a sentient meat bag and have nowhere near the knowlage I'd need to even begin to comprehend how any of this would work or happen.

2019-04-23 01:15:49 UTC

I just believe it. Its what makes the most sense to me and my limited knowledge of how astrophysics works doesn't conflict with that opinion in any way, and I've never seen anyone deny it either

2019-04-23 01:16:36 UTC

@Pinnaplia what you said doesn't prove or disprove the big bang being the result of quantum fluctuations you're just saying the big bang happened basically

2019-04-23 01:16:40 UTC

An important detail of the big bang is that it doesn't disprove a god, very few notice that.

2019-04-23 01:16:44 UTC

Except you got the singularity part of the theory wrong

2019-04-23 01:16:58 UTC

It's a rather unimportant detail in my opinion lmao

2019-04-23 01:17:18 UTC

If God wants me to believe in him, he can come down to earth and show himself

2019-04-23 01:17:36 UTC

Give me no proof of your existence and I won't believe in you, simple as that

2019-04-23 01:17:45 UTC

I'm with you there

2019-04-23 01:18:30 UTC

l+

2019-04-23 01:18:32 UTC

I'm not very religious but that is ironic of you to say lol

2019-04-23 01:18:53 UTC

Why is that

2019-04-23 01:18:55 UTC

God in any of the versions of writing and texts making it clear he would never do that

2019-04-23 01:19:05 UTC

Alright, @OctaviusWhoLost2fa has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-04-23 01:19:07 UTC

Although the biggest crack in the belief of God is the question with no answer.

Our world has a minute chance of ever existing, but with infinite time it had to at some point. But then it's such a small chance. It just cancelles itself out over and over.

2019-04-23 01:19:15 UTC

Well then he's stupid

2019-04-23 01:19:21 UTC

What do you want me to tell you lol

2019-04-23 01:19:37 UTC

Makes me both agnostic and atheist

2019-04-23 01:19:43 UTC

Is there a thing for that?

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