eratosthenes?

idk how to spell that dudes name

Idk, you tell me, there should be many?

for the globe idk i mean i know what they say is proof but some of the proofs could happen on a flat earth some have been debunked

idk about u guys i dont trust the space agencies

Neither do I

u guys think the apollo missions were real and we got real accurate footage of what really happened in space on the moon?

i dont

Regardless, the Globe is independently testable, not dependent on space agencies

i have proof of globe

so u dont trust the space agencies but u think the earths a sphere?

I'm undecided

thats interesting

oh

do you know what the galileo experiment is?

cheese this is the proof we can show everyone and end the flat earth movement?

I think it could be a sphere, but idk, I need more work on that hypothesis

its an experiment that proves gravity, which'd be impossible on a flat earth

i have proof of globe earth

look

take a ball

Alrighty

give me the proof that will end the whole flata earth movement

and a feather

take them to a same height

then drop em

ok

the ball falls faster

which one drops faster

yeah

cuz...

that is impossible on flat earth ?

gravity!

yes

cuz gravity don't exist

how on flat earth would the feather fall faster or same speed

The ball falls faster

yes

cuz it has a higher mass

And the significance of that?

idk

it means there's a force at play here

he says flat earth model has no gravity ?

why did it drop faster

cuz it has a higher mass

and if you don't know already

f=Gm1m2/d2

the higher the mass, the higher the pull and tidal force, the higher the velocity/acceleration

if u take a balloon that weighs 50 pouns and fill it with helium it has more mass than both of them and it doesnt fall at all though

50 pound balloon

it'd drop

the helium balloon ?

yeah wait no cuz

it has more mass than the feather and ball

well to put it simply

gravity is the weakest force in the universe

wait

density is stronger than it

u just told me the ball drops faster cause it has more mass

yes

That hypothesis predicts that phenomenon. And no, gravitation doesn't predict that the ball falls faster because of higher mass. Remember inertia cancels it out to equal acceleration in a vaccuum.

also cuz its denser than air

oh sht

so the density of the ball and the feather matter

yeah

u said it was just mass

And it does not prove a globe, it only affirms one of its predictions

but there's also the aristotle experiment

wait

i can tell you it

hang on a sec

ait

f=Gm1m2/d2 where is density in th is

m1 and m2 are mass

that calculates gravitation's force on them

there's also density which plays a role, the stuff its made out of

like many things

im getting bored

sorry this is boring i know but u gave me a formula for why the ball falls faster than the feather but theni bring the helium balloon into the experiment and now u bring a new force into play

If you accelerate a car, you push back due to your inertia. Bring a helium balloon in the car, and accelerate, it will move in the opposite direction. That is buoyancy at work.

yeah i kinda forgot density has a role in gravity

well clearly u cant have a formula for gravity unless u take density into account

Well, density is basically mass, but per unit volume, so it is directly relevant

thats just the equation for sir isaac newton's universal law of gravitation

idk ask him in hell or heaven or whereever he is

whats the real formula for gravity than

then

thats it

the formula that factors in density

f=Gm1m2/d2 what is density in that formula ?

density is mass

Yes^

but in a certain area

?

wheres the formula for in a certain area

so technically its not wrong

lol

i dont get it once again

the law was made for objects in space anyways lol

not on earth

idk if there's one for on planets

is their a law for it on earth where we can actually test it ?

idk

so this is all theoretical then

well galileo's experiment isn't wrong tho

well hang on

this is all theory since we cant test it right ?

you also gotta realise when the balloons pop they fall back to the earth

We can test it

we can test it

use galileo's experiment or just drop something on the floor

yes but by the time the balloon pops the feather and ball will have already hit the ground so

but why do they fall?

cuz of gravity

whats the formula for gravity

the one u gave me earlier?

there's many formulas

which one you want?

well that one u gave me doesnt work cause the balla nd the feather hit the ground first

that one is for universal gravitation

give me the one that factors in density since real world we have to factor that in right

in **space**

not here

lemme try to find one

for here on earth

cool

i keep finding problems with all these formulas

he told me the ball hits the ground faster than the feather and gave me a formula then i added a new object and that formula doesnt work anymore

The most simple is F = m * a
Force = mass times acceleration. This applies to gravitational fields and accelerating bodies.

F = m * a that takes into account density ?

Yes. because density is mass

So an area of air would apply to this as well

so i got a 50 pound balloon filled with helium a feather and a basketball

yo i found some equations i think

according to ur formula the object with more mass hits the ground first

?

No, at the same time actually

eheh you calculated it wrong boi

if its in a vacuum there's inertia

astral ur formula has all 3 objects hitting the ground at the same time ?

Yes, in a vaccuum

we are talkin about fantaasy vacuums we are talkin here on earth in reality

which would make it hit the ground at the same time

ok on earth

the ball

you know why

since you gotta take the density in account you gotta do for the balloon

Well, with the gases around us, it changes things, because the atmosphere would be pulled to earth with a density and with air resistance

And so you have to account for those

yes so whats the formula

for here on earth in reality

hello

Good question, that would take some digging for me. There are calculators for this

hi broom

ha sheeple earth is a crab

?

earth is a crab

totally

oohhhh i found an equation

@jeremy

look

do you know what gauss's law for gravity is?

i know their is a lotta different opinions and theorys on gravity i dont know them all

ok

so

ive never heard a theory for up and down

lol

What do you mean?

up is up down is down once they brought gravity into it their is no more up or down

it states that gravitationnal force of an object is equivalent to its mass times the gravitationnal field

this could be measured anywhere

Well, up and down in that theory are relative to the center, as a force of attraction

So it is real, but illusory as we perceive acceleration

ok so i got my 3 objects im about to drop them gravitational field is the same for all the objects they are right next to each other

yeah the center of mass i think

but the mass is different

the equation takes account density aswell

yes mass on the helium balloon is more ball is less and feather is even less

whats the formula

search it up

u dont have it ?

but you forgot something

Density and resistance of the medium around have to he factored in. I could maybe factor in density to get freefall rates.

the surface area of the balloon is probably like way more then the ball

so its less dense

cuz its rubber

and its less dense than air

like

Because the buoyant force, the ratios of density affect free fall

imagine you're floating on water at the beach

im lost

look man

And viscosity resisting it

imagine floating on water

ok

why do you not sink?

i could sink if i wanted to

im doin the dead mans float ?

your center of mass is equal all accross your body so you're less dense than water

yeah density if something is more dense than the water it goes down

if the water is more dense it doesnt fall or goes up

the same reason you're floating is the same reason the ball goes up

it floats on the atmosphere

until it pops

so gravity has nothing to do with it its all about density

like midway there lol

gravity has something to do with it

which gravity do u believe newton einstein ?

Gravitational theory predicts it, because buoyancy is another force

why do you think it floats instead of going somewhere else

because something is pulling you

constantly

so you stay floating

2 forces pulling at you

imagine it like 2 ropes

pulling at you

like tug of war

@jeremy We are talking Newtonian, Einsteinian isn't important here right now.

but in certain circumstances one force could be stronger than the other

which gravity though arent they all different

Newtonian and Einsteinian match in the basics here

ok

wait they're different sht

yeah so which gravity are we using

newtonian

this is why i question the globe

newton got it right einstein was wrong ?

mate gravity isn't different though

the way we measure it is different

Questioning is fine

its ok to be lost lol

hey guys

Newtonian and Einsteinian gravity aren't mutually exclusive at this level.

earth is minecraft flower

um hey

they're different at a level on how we measure it

whats the ball earth proof

not its force

or its behaviour

or its effects

idk how we got into gravity whats the undeniable proof earth is a ball

gravity

math problems arent gonna prove it to me

it cant work on a ball

should of listened in math class

is not a ball, it's a sphere

@engineers turret you probably failed math class lmao

WHOO HE AH HA

*spheroid

its a spheroid