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2019-02-09 21:22:48 UTC

some good it can do

2019-02-09 21:22:55 UTC

Yes but if they where based on those good sciences you would be able to sue them

2019-02-09 21:23:16 UTC

you have to get this point ;

2019-02-09 21:23:21 UTC

so, a laser tag place isnt safe since you cant sue them for injuries?

2019-02-09 21:23:31 UTC

im more worried about the well being of my family than suing people

2019-02-09 21:23:33 UTC

its not that you can't when this this or that happens , you just can't sue them ,period

2019-02-09 21:23:46 UTC

i see what you are saying

2019-02-09 21:24:22 UTC

If you where concerned about the health you would not let them put anything you don't completely know what it is or does in your body

2019-02-09 21:26:38 UTC

The fact is vaccines are unavoidably unsafe

2019-02-09 21:26:53 UTC

i don't care how good they explain the science behind vacines ,if you're not willing to take responsability (being sued) for putting chemicals in my body ,you just won't.

2019-02-09 21:28:47 UTC

DrPeper if they knew what the side effects could be and what it can do to you ,they would not need to be unsueable but rather explain this stuff in court when sued. No1 would sue them anymore for these things cause they know the companies would win ,but that's not the case now is it ?

2019-02-09 21:28:48 UTC

you can get compensation for vaccine related injuries

2019-02-09 21:29:16 UTC

also, they list the side effects

2019-02-09 21:29:30 UTC

We can't even find out how dangerous they even are , or the efficacy. That's all proprietary information. If we had the right to sue we could find out during discovery . The National Vaccine Injury Act was CREATED so that never happens.

2019-02-09 21:29:33 UTC

Drugs companies do to , gues what ,you can sue them

2019-02-09 21:30:12 UTC

yes. if we could find out the dangers from the people that manufacture the vaccines it would be a different story

2019-02-09 21:30:42 UTC

Well, let's think about it. What other product has immunity from suit for the manufacturer?

2019-02-09 21:30:42 UTC

You shouldn't asume those dangers if we could just SUE

2019-02-09 21:31:12 UTC
2019-02-09 21:31:23 UTC
2019-02-09 21:31:26 UTC

i have no idea

2019-02-09 21:31:28 UTC

none

2019-02-09 21:31:49 UTC

yes the inserts

2019-02-09 21:32:00 UTC

tell a different story

2019-02-09 21:32:20 UTC

well, many companies are going to forced arbitration instead of law suits for employees

2019-02-09 21:34:20 UTC

also, cant sue gun makers for gun crimes.

2019-02-09 21:34:29 UTC

there is nothing wrong with wanting to know all the facts

2019-02-09 21:34:47 UTC

we wouldn't be suing the nurse injecting the vacine either dude ....

2019-02-09 21:34:48 UTC

you can sue a gun maker if gun malfunctions i bet

2019-02-09 21:34:54 UTC

apple is making the arguement it cant be sued for anti-trust violations

2019-02-09 21:35:45 UTC

the forced arbitration thing applies to every company that implements it

2019-02-09 21:36:22 UTC

so, thats a lot bigger then the vaccine thing

2019-02-09 21:38:31 UTC

i don't know what you're talking about

2019-02-09 21:39:58 UTC

How are they gonna do that with consumers ? i'm not signing anything before i buy something in the store ?

2019-02-09 21:40:33 UTC

it has nothing to do with consumers, it has to do with employees

2019-02-09 21:41:01 UTC

companies cant force them into arbitration and not be allowed to sue

2019-02-09 21:41:46 UTC

So companies would be able to make themselves unsueable by their employees ? then just leave not ?

2019-02-09 21:42:23 UTC

yes, they can make themselves unable to be brought to court by an employee

2019-02-09 21:43:16 UTC

That's fucked but i would leave and sue them anyway ,if you're willing to sue your company you shouldn't stay there in the first place

2019-02-09 21:43:34 UTC

most people cant just leave a job

2019-02-09 21:44:38 UTC

also, i dont know how the agreement is worded. so leaving might not matter

2019-02-09 21:45:05 UTC

Many people say that ,but i don't see that to be true as often as it's said. Ofcourse if you buy a house wich will take 40 years to repay ,then i'm sorry but don't complain that you've made yourself a slave of the system

2019-02-09 21:45:29 UTC

i am saying even if you leave you might not be able to sue them

2019-02-09 21:46:09 UTC

Yes ofcourse that's true ,so don't sign the damn thing ,but ofcourse we all know we barely know what we sign in such matters

2019-02-09 21:46:35 UTC

and if you dont sign, you dont get a job. so ๐Ÿคท kind sucks

2019-02-09 21:46:39 UTC

kinda

2019-02-09 21:47:24 UTC

Plenty of jobs out there in the world ,the systems wants you to think you need such a deal ,you don't ,but ofcourse you cannot have a pre determined lifestyle

2019-02-09 21:50:36 UTC

Evry1 just does what evry1 else does and than complain they have the same problems evry1 else has. euh duuh

2019-02-09 22:04:56 UTC

Legal discovery will give you all the internal records for the development of the vaccine .

2019-02-09 22:05:55 UTC

Now one is liable for false information on the DTAP information sheet. That's the point.

2019-02-09 22:06:37 UTC

The passage of the law giving manufacturers immunity is a de facto confession that vaccines INJURE people.

2019-02-09 22:07:56 UTC

see Bruesewitz v. Wyeth LlC, 131 S. Ct. 1068 - Supreme Court 2011

2019-02-09 22:14:50 UTC

"For the foregoing reasons, we hold that the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act preempts all design-defect claims against vaccine manufacturers brought by plaintiffs who seek compensation for injury or death caused by vaccine side effects."

2019-02-09 22:55:02 UTC

This is a good subject tbh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/543927838462443557/image0.png

2019-02-09 22:55:11 UTC

Discord is under investigation by the FBI

2019-02-09 22:55:12 UTC

Rip

2019-02-09 22:55:59 UTC

Both for this and

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/543928077730709536/unknown.png

2019-02-10 00:39:22 UTC

what is cub ?

2019-02-10 00:55:26 UTC

@Plukke_B Google it

2019-02-10 00:56:23 UTC

nvm

2019-02-10 00:56:25 UTC

More or less means that someone who is young

2019-02-10 00:56:29 UTC

In furry terms

2019-02-10 00:56:38 UTC

So possibly a cihld furry

2019-02-10 00:57:04 UTC

and people are offended by it ? what a suprise

2019-02-10 00:58:28 UTC

Its more of the fact that they allow it @Plukke_B

2019-02-10 00:58:32 UTC

In porn form

2019-02-10 00:59:03 UTC

That's childporn ,can't be allowed by guidelines ,it's illegal

2019-02-10 00:59:32 UTC

It should be

2019-02-10 00:59:38 UTC

ofcourse it's illegal it should be sued and probably no1 is

2019-02-10 00:59:38 UTC

But clearly it is allowed

2019-02-10 01:00:46 UTC

Sites do not have to delete illegal things ,but if they don't some1 might sue them ,if no1 does ,than yeah ofcourse nothing will happen

2019-02-10 01:01:14 UTC

I actaully went into an illegal server once

2019-02-10 01:01:16 UTC

It was pretty bad

2019-02-10 01:01:32 UTC

don't go on the darkweb xD

2019-02-10 01:01:57 UTC

I dont plan to

2019-02-10 01:02:36 UTC

just joking ,go ahead ,if you're not looking for things you don't wanna find ,well then you won't find them ...

2019-02-10 01:03:16 UTC

i think the darkweb will become the mainweb anyways in a few decades with all the sensoring

2019-02-10 01:03:17 UTC

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2019-02-10 01:03:20 UTC

I rather not

2019-02-10 01:04:23 UTC

there's nothing bad with it and if you're in conspiracy a few years ago you had to go there

2019-02-10 01:05:11 UTC

in a few years ,if you want to have a conversation without being spyed ,you'll have to go there too

2019-02-10 01:05:22 UTC

If I ever did find anything bad I dont want that to lead me to being arrested or something even if it was by accident

2019-02-10 01:05:29 UTC

So just might as well avoid the place as a whole

2019-02-10 01:06:02 UTC

you won't be arrested for seeing anything on the internet for just a few seconds

2019-02-10 01:06:42 UTC

don't like ? click away ,not saying you should go there ,im just saying there is no real reason to be afraid

2019-02-10 01:06:45 UTC

Idk I still dont want to risk it

2019-02-10 01:07:15 UTC

yeah i get it ,darkweb has a lot of bad rep

2019-02-10 01:07:40 UTC

But if you ever wish to cheaply murder anyone ... x'D

2019-02-10 01:07:58 UTC

guess they wont do trump though

2019-02-10 01:08:10 UTC

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2019-02-10 01:08:33 UTC

No one smart would do anyone in a high government position

2019-02-10 01:09:32 UTC

Those people who offer those services are not exactly .... smart ....

2019-02-10 01:10:18 UTC

Hitmen?

2019-02-10 01:11:26 UTC

Yes

2019-02-10 01:12:03 UTC

for 1000 bucks ,crazy right ? wouldn't trust those if i would be serious about it ,not that i imagine i ever would

2019-02-10 01:12:41 UTC

I dont think anyone does it for that low

2019-02-10 01:13:10 UTC

It's more like in the tens of thousands

2019-02-10 01:16:18 UTC

well that's what i saw ,did not put it to the test though

2019-02-10 01:19:05 UTC

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2019-02-10 13:20:50 UTC

Globebusters did an experiment with a ring laser gyroscope and calculated that if the Earth were a spinning ball, the Earth would rotate 15 degrees per hour, therefore the gyro would drift 15 degrees per hour, and it did.
They then put the gyro in a Zero Guass Chamber to remove any "heavenly energies" as a factor, and it still drifted.

2019-02-10 13:41:24 UTC

I was going to keep going, but the 0 deaths from measles and 108 deaths from vaccines thing... really? Before I even start with this, it says "Deaths in the U.S. during the past 10 years" yet it says "2004 - 2015" which is 11 years. So which is it?
Since their using both 10 and 11, I'll average that out to 10.5 and divide 108 by that amount, which is 10.2.

So you're telling me that they made a vaccine industry costing billions of dollars to kill around 10 people out of the 325 million people in America a year? Amazing. Let's all get diseases because of this.

2019-02-10 13:50:49 UTC

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2019-02-10 15:48:32 UTC

Taken out if context.

Your opinion .

2019-02-10 15:51:54 UTC

2hours 30min 30 sec start time for laser gyro rebuttal.

https://youtu.be/Qlnox5RYIzE

2019-02-10 16:00:50 UTC

Summary of previous Journal of Immunology

http://danmurphydc.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/AR-10-12-rata-AUTISM-VACCINE.pdf

Autism and Resulting Medical Conditions:http://www.tacanow.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/autism-studies-april-2008.pdf .

Mercury toxic encephalopathy manifesting with clinical symptoms of regressive autistic disorders. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17454560

Relation of mercury to high autism rates in boys

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16264412

Elevated levels of measles in children with Autism

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12849883

Abnormal MMR antibodies in children with autism

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12145534

Tylenol, MMR and Autism - A parent survey study

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18445737

A Positive Association found between Autism Prevalence and Childhood Vaccination

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/tandf/uteh/2011/00000074/00000014/art00002?token=004c170388ee06a6e5865462431636f5720415d23763c247b5e4e26634a492f2530332976261

Peer reviewed study on fetal cell contamination with retro virus associated with autism and cancer

http://www.globalresearch.ca/new-study-in-journal-of-public-health-finds-autism-and-cancer-related-to-human-fetal-dna-in-vaccines/5402912

Study documentation- Dr Deisher

http://www.ms.academicjournals.org/article/article1409245960_Deisher%20et%20al.pdf

2019-02-10 16:00:51 UTC

Autism and mercury poisoning

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11339848

Hypothesis: conjugate vaccines may predispose children to autism spectrum disorders

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21993250

Rise in autism coincides with rise in vaccines

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535

A two-phase study evaluating the relationship between Thimerosal-containing vaccine administration and the risk for an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis in the United States

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3878266/

Elevated levels of measles antibodies in children with autism. - PubMed - NCBIPediatr Neurol. 2003 Apr;28(4):292-4. Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov'tncbi.nlm.nih.gov ยทโ€ขโ€ขโ€ขโ€ขโ€ขโ€ขโ€ขโ€ขโ€ขโ€ขโ€ขโ€ขโ€ขโ€ขโ€ขโ€ข

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A study published in the Journal of Biomedical Sciences determined that the autoimmunity to the central nervous system may play a causal role in autism. Researchers discovered that because many autistic children harbour elevated levels of measles antibodies, they should conduct a serological study of measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) and myelin basic protein (MBP) autoantibodies. They used serum samples of 125 autistic children and 92 controlled children. Their analysis showed a significant increase in the level of MMR antibodies in autistic children. The study concludes that the autistic children had an inappropriate or abnormal antibody response to MMR. The study determined that autism could be a result from an atypical measles infection that produces neurological symptoms in some children. The source of this virus could be a variant of MV, or it could be the MMR vaccine.

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IMPORTANT-

Package inserts:http://www.immunize.org/fda/

Ingredients:https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf

Supreme Court declares vaccines unavoidably unsafe:https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf

National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act legislation (renders manufactures 100% of any & all liability):https://www.congress.gov/bill/99th-congress/house-bill/5546

VAERS:https://vaers.hhs.gov/index

National Compensation Court website (note the $3 billion paid out comes from tax payers):https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/data/

Detox baths:https://www.howhesraised.net/2016/11/the-beginners-guide-to-detox-baths-for-kids/

Vaccine requirements for work/school by state:http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements.aspx

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Vit K package insert:https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2003/012223Orig1s039Lbl.pdf

People who should not be vaccinated:

https://www.thefamilythathealstogether.com/vaccine-contraindications-six-people-not-vaccinated/

Lawsuit determines that federally required safety studies have not been performed in 30 years:

http://icandecide.org/government/ICAN-HHS-Stipulated-Order-July-2018.pdf

Fetal Cells & Vaccine Contaminates-

Fetal cells:http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/new-fetal-cell-line-from-live-abortion-emerges-for-vaccine-production/

20%-36% of cell lines scientists are using are contaminated or misidentified:https://www.statnews.com/2016/07/21/studies-wrong-cells/

Still going to vaccinate? Let's hope that you are getting real vaccines -- not alcohol & cat saliva! :http://www.wandtv.com/story/33272117/doctor-concocts-his-own-vaccines-with-cat-saliva-state-says

SV40 cancer virus that infected 98 million Americans in the polio vaccine:http://www.sv40foundation.org

Development of vaccines from aborted fetuses:https://cogforlife.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/farnsworthvaccines.pdf

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DNA mutations from fetal cell lines in vaccines:http://soundchoice.org/research/

WALVAX2 (fetal cells):

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25803132/

Ethics behind WALVAX2:

http://ethicalresearch.net/positions/the-ethics-of-the-walvax-2-cell-strain/

PBS on how vital fetal cells are for vaccine development:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/medical-researchers-say-fetal-tissue-remains-essential

Vaccine Failure & Shedding-

Mumps outbreak -- all vaccinated:http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57276bc7e4b0b49df6abc402

Measles outbreak in a fully immunized school:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3821823

Measles outbreak among the vaccinated:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8053748

New York measles outbreak linked to vaccinated:http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2014/02/27/cid.ciu105

Vaccinated child responsible for measles outbreak in British Columbia:http://www.eurosurveillance.org/images/dynamic/EE/V18N49/art20649.pdf

Mumps outbreak in Netherlands linked to those vaccinated:http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/20/4/13-1681_article

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Vaccinated student in Cali diagnosed with mumps:http://www.nbcsandiego.com/on-air/as-seen-on/Cal-State-San-Marcos-Student-Diagnosed-With-Mumps-395189031.html

What's shedding? :http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2008/02/24/secondary-transmission-%EF%BB%BFthe-short-and-sweet-about-live-virus-vaccine-shedding/comment-page-1/

98% vaccinated in pertussis outbreak:http://www.activistpost.com/2015/02/98-vaccinated-involved-in-whooping.html

Vaccine-related polio outbreak in Syria 2017:https://www.statnews.com/2017/06/08/polio-outbreak-syria-who/

More vaccine failure -- pertussis outbreak in vaccinated children:https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/22/2/pdfs/15-0325.pdf

Pertussis outbreak in San Diego -- 621 people & 85% were vaccinated -- MORE vaccine failure:http://www.kpbs.org/news/2014/jun/12/immunized-people-getting-whooping-cough/

Largest measles epidemic in North America in the last decade occurred in 2011 in Quebec where 1 & 2 dose vaccine coverage among children 3 years of age were 95%-97%:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23264672/

Hib outbreak -- 363/443 (82%) were vaccinated:http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/188/4/481.full

The Emerging risks of live virus & virus vectored vaccines:http://www.nvic.org/CMSTemplates/NVIC/pdf/Live-Virus-Vaccines-and-Vaccine-Shedding.pdf

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What's shedding? :http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2008/02/24/secondary-transmission-%EF%BB%BFthe-short-and-sweet-about-live-virus-vaccine-shedding/comment-page-1/

Small Pox vaccine sheds to infant from parent (military personnel):http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSN1744524120070518

Everyone infected in this whooping cough outbreak was up to date on vaccinations:http://fox13now.com/2015/03/27/19-kids-in-summit-co-diagnosed-with-whooping-cough-despite-being-up-to-date-on-vaccinations/

& this outbreak too:http://myfox8.com/2015/12/18/13-cases-of-whooping-cough-confirmed-in-davie-county-schools/

Even the CDC suggests that the vaccinated are an asymptomatic reservoir for infection:http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/6/5/00-0512_article

Mumps outbreak in Netherlands linked to those vaccinated with the MMR twice:http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/20/4/13-1681_article

Pertussis outbreak in California -"Our unvaccinated & undervaccinated population did not appear to contribute significantly to the increased rate of clinical pertussis. Surprisingly, the highest incidence of disease was among previously vaccinated children aged 8โ€“12 years.":http://m.cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/54/12/1730.long?view=long&pmid=22423127

Measles outbreak in a fully immunized population:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3821823

49% of children vaccinated STILL got pertussis:https://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/downloads/pertuss-surv-report-2016-provisional.pdf

2019-02-10 16:01:07 UTC

SIDS-

Infanrix lists SIDS as an adverse reaction. Page 12, line 250:https://www.fda.gov/downloads/biologicsbloodvaccines/vaccines/approvedproducts/ucm124514.pdf

SIDS:https://truthkings.com/dirty-secret-behind-infant-mortality-united-states/#

Interesting as the doctor found many SIDS cases to have inflammation &/or infection in the inner ear... & the vaccine inserts I have read have listed "otitis media" (medical term for ear infection) as a possible adverse event:http://www.seattlechildrens.org/about/stories/listening-to-a-hunch/

Family compensated for SIDS of their 4 m/o son:https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2013vv0611-73-0

SIDS DID NOT EXIST BEFORE THE VACCINE PROGRAM STARTED-NOW THE US HAS THE HIGHEST INFANT MORTALITY RATE IN THE INDUSTRIALIZED WORLD TO GO WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF VACCINES GIVEN!!!http://thinktwice.com/sids.htm

You may be surprised to learn that fully vaccinated children & adults can still be infected, paralyzed & transmit polio. Here are two cases in particular that may grab your interest-

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"Outbreak of paralytic poliomyelitis in Oman: evidence for widespread transmission among fully vaccinated children" :http://www.popline.org/node/315407#.dpuf

"Oral polio vaccine-associated paralysis in a child despite previous immunization with inactivated vaccine." :http://www.virology.ws/2014/10/08/oral-polio-vaccine-associated-paralysis-in-a-child-despite-previous-immunization-with-inactivated-virus/

Mutant strains of polio vaccine now causing more paralysis than wild polio:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/06/28/534403083/mutant-strains-of-polio-vaccine-now-cause-more-paralysis-than-wild-polio

Polio vaccine causing polio again:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/health/polio-papua-new-guinea-bn/index.html

Polio vaccine contaminated with HFM virus:

https://healthfreedomidaho.org/polio-vaccine-sheds-hfmd

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Stories-

A-Z injury stories:http://www.followingvaccinations.com/home

Colton's story:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CHYmb9Hwj4A&feature=share

Holly died after her kindergarten boosters:http://hopefromholly.com/blog/

Baby Ianโ€™s story - hep B reaction:http://www.iansvoice.org/

Baby Aniya was vaccine overdosed:https://www.gofundme.com/62bev-raising-money-for-aniyas-injustice

$101 million dollar settlement for an infant that suffered a severe reaction to MMR:

https://www.mctlawyers.com/101-million-dollar-vaccine-injury-mmr/

Two, one year olds die immediately after MMR:

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/samoa-recalls-vaccines-after-child-deaths/ar-AAzOvrF?ocid=spartanntp

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Polio wasn't vanquished -- it was redefined:
http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2015/07/polio-wasnt-vanquished-it-was-redefined/

Pertussis vaccine not very effective:
https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/54/12/1730/452864/Unexpectedly-Limited-Durability-of-Immunity

Synagis (RSV shot):
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/the-scary-side-of-synagis/

WHO recommends vit A to treat the measles:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs286/en/

Germany Supreme Court says the measles virus "does not exist":
http://drsircus.com/general/mmr-vaccine-from-hell-court-rules-measles-is-not-caused-by-a-virus/

Dr. Suzanne Humphries recommends vit C for whooping cough:
http://drsuzanne.net/2015/04/the-vitamin-c-treatment-of-whooping-cough-suzanne-humphries-md/

Lead Developer Of HPV Vaccines Comes Clean, Warns Parents & Young Girls Itโ€™s All A Giant Deadly Scam (Dr Diane Harper):
http://www.australiannationalreview.com/lead-developer.../

Japan pulled Gardasil from the schedule:

http://www.tokyotimes.com/side-effects-in-young-girls.../

2009 Spain halts batch of Merck's Gardasil:

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSLA56308620090210

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Doctors who explain clearly why vaccines aren't safe or effective.

Dr. Nancy Banks - http://bit.ly/1Ip0aIm

Dr. Russell Blaylock - http://bit.ly/1BXxQZL

Dr. Shiv Chopra - http://bit.ly/1gdgh1s

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny - http://bit.ly/1MPVbjx

Dr. Suzanne Humphries - http://bit.ly/17sKDbf

Dr. Larry Palevsky - http://bit.ly/1LLEjf6

Dr. Toni Bark - http://bit.ly/1CYM9RB

Dr. Andrew Wakefield - http://bit.ly/1MuyNzo

Dr. Meryl Nass - http://bit.ly/1DGzJsc

Dr. Raymond Obomsawin - http://bit.ly/1G9ZXYl

Dr. Ghislaine Lanctot - http://bit.ly/1MrVeUL

Dr. Robert Rowen - http://bit.ly/1SIELeF

Dr. David Ayoub - http://bit.ly/1SIELve

Dr. Boyd Haley PhD - http://bit.ly/1KsdVby

Dr. Rashid Buttar - http://bit.ly/1gWOkL6

Dr. Roby Mitchell - http://bit.ly/1gdgEZU

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Dr. Ken Stoller - http://bit.ly/1MPVqLI

Dr. Mayer Eisenstein - http://bit.ly/1LLEqHH

Dr. Frank Engley, PhD - http://bit.ly/1OHbLDI

Dr. David Davis - http://bit.ly/1gdgJwo

Dr Tetyana Obukhanych - http://bit.ly/16Z7k6J

Dr. Harold E Buttram - http://bit.ly/1Kru6Df

Dr. Kelly Brogan - http://bit.ly/1D31pfQ

Dr. RC Tent - http://bit.ly/1MPVwmu

Dr. Rebecca Carley - http://bit.ly/K49F4d

Dr. Andrew Moulden - http://bit.ly/1fwzKJu

Dr. Jack Wolfson - http://bit.ly/1wtPHRA

Dr. Michael Elice - http://bit.ly/1KsdpKA

Dr. Terry Wahls - http://bit.ly/1gWOBhd

Dr. Stephanie Seneff - http://bit.ly/1OtWxAY

Dr. Paul Thomas - http://bit.ly/1DpeXPf

Many doctors talking at once - http://bit.ly/1MPVHOv

Dr. Richard Moskowitz - http://bit.ly/1OtWG7D

Dr. Jane Orient - http://bit.ly/1MXX7pb

Dr. Richard Deth - http://bit.ly/1GQDL10

Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic - http://bit.ly/1eqiPr5

Dr Chris Shaw - http://bit.ly/1IlGiBp

Dr. Susan McCreadie - http://bit.ly/1CqqN83

Dr. Mary Ann Block - http://bit.ly/1OHcyUX

Dr. David Brownstein - http://bit.ly/1EaHl9A

Dr. Jayne Donegan - http://bit.ly/1wOk4Zz

Dr. Troy Ross - http://bit.ly/1IlGlNH

Dr. Philip Incao - http://bit.ly/1ghE7sS

Dr. Joseph Mercola - http://bit.ly/18dE38I

Dr. Jeff Bradstreet - http://bit.ly/1MaX0cC

Dr. Robert Mendelson - http://bit.ly/1JpAEQr

Dr Theresa Deisher https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=6Bc6WX33SuE

Dr. Sam Eggertsen-https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8LB-3xkeDAE

2019-02-10 16:03:06 UTC

Hundreds more doctors testifying that vaccines aren't safe or effective, in these documentaries....

Vaccination - The Silent Epidemic - http://bit.ly/1vvQJ2W

The Greater Good - http://bit.ly/1icxh8j

Shots In The Dark - http://bit.ly/1ObtC8h

Vaccination The Hidden Truth - http://bit.ly/KEYDUh

Vaccine Nation - http://bit.ly/1iKNvpU

Vaccination - The Truth About Vaccines - http://bit.ly/1vlpwvU

Lethal Injection - http://bit.ly/1URN7BJ

Bought - http://bit.ly/1M7YSlr

Deadly Immunity - http://bit.ly/1KUg64Z

Autism - Made in the USA - http://bit.ly/1J8WQN5

Beyond Treason - http://bit.ly/1B7kmvt

Trace Amounts - http://bit.ly/1vAH3Hv

Why We Don't Vaccinate - http://bit.ly/1KbXhuf

2019-02-10 16:03:09 UTC

All this research above....your doctor knows it right? Probably not. Maybe in 17 years.:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1497798/

Letter to pregnant moms questioning vaccines:
http://vaxtruth.org/2016/05/dear-pregnant-mom/

Health benefits of the measles:
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/unreported-health-benefits-measles

Vaccines - Unavoidably Unsafe:
http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/unavoidably-unsafe/

Sharing vaccine truths with loved ones:
http://journeyboost.com/2016/12/30/7-essentials-for-sharing-vaccine-truth-with-loved-ones/

Smoke, mirrors, & the disappearance of polio:
http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2011/11/17/smoke-mirrors-and-the-disappearance-of-polio/

154 of the last 162 cases of polio in the US were caused BY the oral polio vaccine:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/polio.html

MORE THAN ONE HALF OF ALL AMERICAN CHILDREN ARE CHRONICALLY SICK:
http://fearlessparent.org/americas-new-normal-chronically-ill-kids/

2019-02-10 16:03:11 UTC

83 cases reviewed by lawyers:
http://digitalcommons.pace.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1681&context=pelr

Measles deaths vs MMR deaths 2004-2015:
http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/zero-u-s-measles-deaths-in-10-years-but-over-100-measles-vaccine-deaths-reported/

DTaP, HIB, & chicken pox vaccines all list otitis media or parotitis on their inserts. This is what causes ear infections. You can find the inserts here:
http://www.immunize.org/fda/

7 out of 8 of the individuals that died from the flu in California received their flu shot:
https://healthfreedomidaho.org/7-of-the-8-individuals-who-died-of-flu-had-received-the-flu-shot

Hiding Vaccine-Related Deaths With Semantic Sleight-of-Hand:
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2271619-hiding-vaccine-related-deaths-with-semantic-sleight-of-hand/

2019-02-10 16:03:14 UTC

Adverse Reactions/Death-

Deaths during Gardasil Trials - 1 in 733 participants in the vaccine trials died.Bottom of page 7 of insert:
https://www.fda.gov/.../ApprovedProducts/UCM111263.pdf

213 Women who took Gardasil Suffered Permanent Disability 2012:
http://articles.mercola.com/.../hpv-vaccine-victim-sues...

โ€œThe only thing different about that day was that shot...โ€ Did a trip to the doctor kill a healthy 12-year-old girl?:
http://fox6now.com/.../the-only-thing-different-about.../

150+ deaths reported to VAERS as of June 2017 (Gardasil):
https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D8/D17F338

Vaccine Injury Court Cases of Death caused by HPV vaccine:
https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc...
https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc...
https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_docโ€ฆ

Shingles vaccine causes chicken pox, shingles, & eye injuries:
http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/merck-admits-shingles-vaccine-can-cause-eye-damage-and-shingles?utm_content=39146139&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

VAERS records of 1,000+ babies under the age of 6 months that all died shortly after vaccinations. These are ONLY those 6 months & under. Sickening:
http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?EVENTS=on&PAGENO=2&PERPAGE=10&ESORT=NONE&REVERSESORT=&LOWAGE=(0)&HIGHAGE=(0.5)&WhichAge=range&SYMPTOMS=(Sudden_infant_death_syndrome_%2810042440%29)

2019-02-10 16:03:17 UTC

Identifying vaccine damage:
https://healthimpactnews.com/2015/dr-andrew-moulden-learning-to-identify-vaccine-damage/

VAERS received 29,747 reports after Hib vaccines -- 5179 (17%) were serious, including 896 reports of death:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25598306

Make sure to report reactions:
http://www.nvic.org/reportreaction.aspx

US court pays $6 million to Gardasil victims:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/.../us-court-pays-6.../

Gardasil & cervarix vaccine adverse reports:

http://sanevax.org/vaers-report

Journal of Developing Drugs - food allergies & vaccines:
http://www.omicsgroup.org/journals/evidence-that-food-proteins-in-vaccines-cause-the-development-of-foodallergies-and-its-implications-for-vaccine-policy-2329-6631-1000137.pdf

The AAP on "Eczema Vaccinatum" (aka vaccines cause eczema):
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/22/2/259

& another dead kid compensated:
https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2010vv0103-145-0

2019-02-10 16:03:18 UTC

Herd Immunity
http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/02/18/the-deadly-impossibility-of-herd-immunity-through-vaccination-by-dr-russell-blaylock/

The term, โ€˜herd immunityโ€™, was coined by researcher, A W Hedrich, after heโ€™d studied the epidemiology of measles in USA between 1900-1931. His study published in the May, 1933 American Journal of Epidemiology concluded that when 68% of children younger than 15 yrs old had become immune to measles via infection, measles epidemics ceased. For several reasons, this natural, pre-vaccine herd immunity differed greatly from todayโ€™s vaccine โ€˜herd immunityโ€™.1,2

When immunity was derived from natural infection, a much smaller proportion of the population needed to become immune to show the herd effect; compare the 68% measles immunity required for natural herd immunity to the very high percentages of vaccine uptake deemed necessary for measles vaccine โ€˜herd immunityโ€™. In his โ€˜Vaccine Safety Manualโ€™, Neil Z Miller cites research which concluded increasing vaccine uptake necessary for โ€˜herd immunityโ€™ ranging from โ€œ70 to 80 percent of two year olds in inner citiesโ€ in 1991 to โ€œโ€˜close to 100 percent coverageโ€™โ€ฆwith a vaccine that is 90 to 98 percent effective.โ€ in 1997. Miller notes that, โ€œWhen the measles vaccine was introduced in 1963, officials were confident that they could eradicate the disease by 1967.โ€

2019-02-10 16:55:45 UTC

You posted about 266 links, this is shotgun argumentation at its worst.

2019-02-10 16:56:26 UTC

you need to be more informed before you just make blind arguments

2019-02-10 16:57:17 UTC

I was making my argument solely off of the anti-vax picture

2019-02-10 16:58:43 UTC

you asked questions

2019-02-10 16:58:49 UTC

so i gave some info

2019-02-10 16:58:59 UTC

no one ever said it was easy to figure out

2019-02-10 16:59:11 UTC

if you dont want to look through the info, your choice.

2019-02-10 16:59:25 UTC

i put it up so there is a record of in in debate room

2019-02-10 16:59:30 UTC

its not just for you

2019-02-10 17:00:43 UTC

I never actually asked questions, I just directly responded to that one anti vax picture

2019-02-10 17:01:00 UTC

the last death that i know of was 2015

2019-02-10 17:01:57 UTC

maybe we should stop disease and virus ridden aliens from coming here without geting screened first

2019-02-10 17:03:03 UTC

the last verifiable measels deaths was in 2003

2019-02-10 17:04:51 UTC

Someone died from measles in 2015 in california

2019-02-10 17:58:38 UTC

@Citizen Z Do you ever make an argument without posting dozens of links?

2019-02-10 18:01:16 UTC

@gohan I would be typing for hours

2019-02-10 18:01:28 UTC

@Quorum verified?

2019-02-10 18:01:39 UTC

That's not the info I was getting

2019-02-10 18:02:11 UTC

I mean, like Quorum said, you posted over 200 links, with very little of your own argumentation going on.

2019-02-10 18:02:35 UTC

So?

2019-02-10 18:02:39 UTC

That makes it seem as though you actually have no clue what you're arguing

2019-02-10 18:02:50 UTC

Concerned much?

2019-02-10 18:02:59 UTC

Attack the info?

2019-02-10 18:03:14 UTC

Or you just trying to attack me?

2019-02-10 18:03:23 UTC

You expect people to attack 200 links of info?

2019-02-10 18:03:27 UTC

I'm not attacking you

2019-02-10 18:03:28 UTC

Yes.

2019-02-10 18:03:35 UTC

You actually are.

2019-02-10 18:03:47 UTC

I'm simply stating that your way of arguing isn't conducive to debate

2019-02-10 18:03:47 UTC

Try looking at the info

2019-02-10 18:04:20 UTC

Your opinion. But since I own the server I decide what's civil debate and what isnt.

2019-02-10 18:04:48 UTC

๐Ÿคท

2019-02-10 18:04:51 UTC

If you dont like links. You are free to mute the channel and server

2019-02-10 18:05:08 UTC

Or you are free to leave all together

2019-02-10 18:05:34 UTC

I dont really care. All you're doing is attacking me not challenging the information

2019-02-10 18:05:42 UTC

Gtg.

2019-02-10 18:05:53 UTC

I don't have time to type all dam day

2019-02-10 18:06:06 UTC

Provide one link, and I'll challenge the information. Provide 200, and I'll point out how you're setting unrealistic expectations for debate.

2019-02-10 18:07:11 UTC

It's all necessary. It's not my problem the vaccine debate is to complicated for you.

2019-02-10 18:08:17 UTC

Like I said before. I want the information in the room.

2019-02-10 18:08:37 UTC

What do you care what I post.

2019-02-10 18:09:06 UTC

Sounds like you are scared of the sheer amount of info that could contradict your belief system.

2019-02-10 18:09:08 UTC

You're attacking me now. That doesn't seem very civil.

2019-02-10 18:09:28 UTC

Lol

2019-02-10 18:09:41 UTC

Just stating the obvious.

2019-02-10 18:09:46 UTC

Just as I did

2019-02-10 18:09:55 UTC

And yet one is civil, while the other isn't?

2019-02-10 18:10:57 UTC

Seems civil to me. I never said you weren't being civil. I just said you were ignoring the information and trying deflect from it

2019-02-10 18:11:30 UTC

You are trying to censor the links I put up

2019-02-10 18:11:37 UTC

I can't censor anything

2019-02-10 18:11:50 UTC

Yet you try anyway

2019-02-10 18:12:18 UTC

I'm simply pointing out that your debates would be more productive if you had fewer links, with stronger evidence. People will dismiss it out of hand if you post them en masse

2019-02-10 18:13:13 UTC

Now, I will respond to a few of them soon enough. The only reason I haven't done so yet is because I'm not actually at home, and being on a phone isn't conducive to typing out long rebuttals

2019-02-10 18:13:59 UTC

Listen man, I never said you have to have a rebuttal for anything. You are free to argue any of the links or not.

2019-02-10 18:14:26 UTC

Simply information take it or leave it don't kill the messenger

2019-02-10 18:14:30 UTC

And I'm saying I will, so don't accuse me of being scared, when the truth is that I'm in a car with 20 boxes worth of robotics material.

2019-02-10 18:21:43 UTC

It's not like I'm sitting here jumping up and down declaring victory based off posting links. You were accusing me of no argument when just before that I was commenting on measels

2019-02-10 18:53:44 UTC

Hi, I'm new here, and not trying to interrupt the debate. It just seems like it has taken a lull.

I suggest that for a good civil debate, you should try to find an impartial 3rd party who will observe and enforce some form of protocol. Not offering myself, just offering a suggestion.

2019-02-10 19:16:21 UTC

the protocol is just fine. thanks for your opinion.

2019-02-11 12:35:24 UTC

Can people have perms to post images here?

2019-02-11 13:14:10 UTC

Ill just post it in <#484515645258596369>

2019-02-11 13:14:54 UTC

Nvm, no perms there either

2019-02-11 13:15:51 UTC

I drew a picture of why the star trails diverge from the equatorial star trail, if you wanna see it then just ask

2019-02-11 14:29:21 UTC

ok so one question why are "THEY" lying to us about the flat earth?

2019-02-11 14:33:24 UTC

70 people online and noone has an answer or is it just to early for this lolol

2019-02-11 14:39:34 UTC

Oh god u donโ€™t want to start that

2019-02-11 14:39:38 UTC
2019-02-11 14:39:42 UTC

I got something for u

2019-02-11 14:43:21 UTC

ty

2019-02-11 16:52:42 UTC

Why wouldn't they lie

2019-02-11 16:52:52 UTC

Have you seen the news lately

2019-02-11 20:21:47 UTC

The only news I know is of the government shutdown. I dont watch the news because 1. Boring. 2. Could be yellow journalism. 3. If it's important enough, I'll hear about it without watching the news, like the gov. shutdown.

2019-02-11 20:23:43 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/544614533268897792/artflow_201902110843.png

2019-02-11 20:24:26 UTC

This is a visualization of the star trails and why they diverge from the equatorial star trail.

2019-02-11 20:25:27 UTC

Thsts not how it would look on a spinning ball

2019-02-11 20:26:42 UTC

How so?

2019-02-11 20:26:50 UTC

It's about the exact same

2019-02-11 20:32:00 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/544616616713912352/artflow_201902110843.png

2019-02-11 20:32:12 UTC

That's how a spinning ball would look

2019-02-11 20:33:06 UTC

If you are looking straight up that's how it would look

2019-02-11 20:41:21 UTC

It's impossible for a curved star strail, like a star trail near a polar star, to be a straight line while far to the left/right of your FOV

2019-02-11 20:42:20 UTC

It's like holding a hula hoop out in front of you vertically and seeing a straight line, then moving it to the right and still seeing a straight line and not an arc towards your middle FOV

2019-02-11 20:44:46 UTC

So we live on a tiny earth?

2019-02-11 20:44:56 UTC

The size of a hula hoop

2019-02-11 20:46:13 UTC

It's an analogy

2019-02-11 20:46:51 UTC

Like, try imagining that image you drew with the straight lines over my image, but with the northern and souther polar stars

2019-02-11 20:47:03 UTC

To the left and right

2019-02-11 20:50:17 UTC

I understand what you are saying I think. Im just picturing what it should look like if looking up 90 degrees from the ground

2019-02-11 20:50:31 UTC

Not sideways just straight up

2019-02-11 20:50:55 UTC

And if you were on the outside of the spinning ball, most the lines should be straight

2019-02-11 20:53:39 UTC

Its impossible to always get straight lines besides near the equator since eventually the lines will have to shrink in size

2019-02-11 20:53:47 UTC

Like this

2019-02-11 20:53:50 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/544622111852068885/artflow_201902111552.png

2019-02-11 20:54:23 UTC

And become the polar stars and the tiny circles around them, slowly making them circles and not straight lines

2019-02-11 20:56:12 UTC

That middle line represents the star trail at the equator btw

2019-02-11 21:20:12 UTC

I will try to do an experiment

2019-02-11 21:20:28 UTC

Or find other examples

2019-02-11 21:51:38 UTC

so if the earth is flat, how come nobody has ever fallen off the edge?
and if there is an ice wall, how come nobody has ever climbed on top of it?
i feel like these are things that would definitely make new headlines.

2019-02-11 21:51:57 UTC

@MbLeRgh because everyone is playing fortnite

2019-02-11 21:52:08 UTC

hahaha

2019-02-11 21:54:37 UTC

Uh, apparently the government keep people away from the ice wall 24/7

2019-02-11 21:54:51 UTC

Which would be a lot of ships

2019-02-11 21:55:03 UTC

which would probably be even more noticeable

2019-02-11 21:58:14 UTC

I mean they could just say you can't go to Antarctica its off limits and all the companies would suck em off and not go there, or take people there

2019-02-11 21:59:51 UTC

so you are trying to tell me that throughout the entire history of earth, nobody has ever tried to peek over the edge?

2019-02-11 22:00:19 UTC

btw there is no edge, the earth is spherical

2019-02-11 22:01:51 UTC

science tells us this, there have been many experiments to prove this and a couple of hair-brained ideas with meaningless experiments isn't going to disprove the fact that the earth is in fact a sphere

2019-02-11 22:02:37 UTC

the earth is large enough that it may not look like it is round, but we are far too small compared to the size of earth to make that decision just by looking at it from our perspective on the ground

2019-02-12 06:21:09 UTC

Our personalities are overrated

2019-02-12 07:51:08 UTC

?

2019-02-12 13:21:27 UTC

*falls off edge*

2019-02-12 13:29:32 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/544872691300302868/photo-original3.jpg

2019-02-12 16:06:25 UTC

Uh

2019-02-12 16:06:36 UTC

What's the image meant to mean?

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