No it hasn't. You are assuming that the movement of the "planets" is caused by the same force that causes things to fall on earth.

That's where the evidence is lacking.

I dont have a better explanation. But my lack of a better explanation is not proof that your speculative mathematics provide one.

I think that the "experiment" used to derive the gravitational constant is bogus.

Without solid evidence of "Big G", the heliocentric model is merely speculative.

I’m not asumimg it. It has been proven. We are able to measure the gravitation lull and orbit around objects. These equations have been created by newton himself.

Pull*

I gtg to bed

I’m tired

I’ll see y’all tomorrow

The equations are not proof. You have to include a large number of assumptions to arrive at those conclusions.

bye

equations are not proof. obviously. what makes you think I dont understand the equations?

The American School system is garbage and needs a complete overhaul

why?

many obvious reasons

patriotism, fake history, multiple choice tests

there is no such thing as fake history

history is history

its already proven

sorry mate @shiro

lol

do you believe everything thats in the news as well? @MagicalLuuk

no

ur weck

then why do you assume the news in the past were correct?

stupidity

no

sorry

mate thats not how it works

how come?

example: 911 was a lie. it was shown in tv therefore ppl believe it and thats why it will be in the future history books. now how can you be sure stuff like that or similar never happened before?

9/11 was not a lie

My uncle was at the scene

Or one of my uncles

And he was nearly killed

One of the funnier things ive seen lately

@patrickcooper289 what if i tell you...it can be a lie.. **but many people died anyway**

@MagicalLuuk no explanation? sad

the school system is bad tho tbf

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https://youtu.be/wkQcfkxWAZg

yes

It is good, lol

A classic

a modern masterpiece

True

Alright, @zJammy has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

earth is round i’ll spark ya mum out

which was the bad word

spark

or mum

or earth is round

Turning the friggin' frogs gay!

it’s the water

**dO YOu uNDersTaNd THaT?!**

Not to be a troll or anything but I rll don’t think the earth is flat

that’s not being a troll here.

We went to the moon.

Oh

Ok

If the earth is flat then how would heat dispersion work???

@Udo Do you think it would be possible to have slow motion effects live like in capricorn 1 given late 60s tech?
I can't internet search this stuff because it is too specific.

Possibly. The problem is, if I'm being honest, the later you get in time, the more easily it would be to hoax whatever you want on film.

In the Capricorn 1 movie, Mars landings were hoaxed by doing it live from the camera in a secret studio in the middle of some desert, slow motion effects were done live by some people in the studio who had direct control over what broadcasted to the public.
Generally, moon landing deniers claim the footage was all prerecorded, but I was just thinking about this and how plausible it would be given the technology at the time.

Just some food for thought I had for myself. I'm personally not a moon landing denier myself.

No one went to the moon. Look into it

Plenty of proof the moon landings are a hoax

@Technomatrix

Yes?

Easy if you just think

Its not like they did a good job of fakery

How far away would you guess the horizon on the moon is from the observer point of view in the above picture?

40 yards

But that doesn't matter. It could be argued they are on a hill

The point in this images is there is convergent shadows that cant be caused by a 93 million mile away sun. Its caused by local, electrical lighting.

I have an actual question, if NASA is this big fake machine, explain SpaceX and Russia space programs. with proof, calling it FakeX is an opinion and false without evidence.

@Popcornthattasteslikefish calling it real is just appealing to popularity. There is plenty of fake x evidence

Do you have some to share

@Popcornthattasteslikefish 🤔 didnt someone suggest to you "Jeranism's youtube channel" (earlier) for just one quick example, or nah? 🤔

oh I didn't see that, thank you

--k .. 👍

Yeah, if I had a favorite for flat earth content creators, it would probably be Jeranism or ODD

The earth is round

🌎

round like ball or round like flat circle 🤔

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Sphere

so he crammed his post (emoji) in, before i sent my comment lol

😆

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ok, well, @Jaxson

i says its flat
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@✧Mike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)✧

@!GPT

If anybody does why do you believe that the earth is flat?

it's not lmao

@Citizen Z Is this the right place?

Yes if you wish to argue about something. Thx

So i think that the horizon dropping below eye level with altitude is proof the earth can't be flat

Gtg. Working

K show me a horizon that drops.

Ok i can tell you my measurements, show you images, would that suffice?

I can show you footage from a redbull jump from 128 thousand feet and the horizon didnt drop

Didd that include a theodolite, and an accurate indication of horizontal eye level?

Have you heard of an apparent horizon?

Yes, but I'm measuring the visual horizon

That's the better one to use

Theodolites are only good up to about 400 yards

I can give you manufacturers specifications

You didnt do your research

wait do you know what a theodolite is?

it measures angles, not distance

sorry I'm a CE surveyor, you're wrong

The angles can only be measured accurately up to 400 yards or so

No you're wrong

yards isn't angle

Lol

i'm not using it in distance mode

No you're 100% wrong sorry

Its not accurate past 400 yards

It reports the visual angle between any two things in your view

And it can tell you horizontal accurately

Show me specs saying a theodolite measures a horizon 6 miles away

Then ill believe you

Gtg

This explains it well : http://www.johnsonlevel.com/News/TheodolitesAllAboutTheodo

It isnt' measuring the distance

Can you SEE the horizon through the sight of the theodolite?

then you can measure teh angle

And that's all you need

K where does it say accuracy

For distance

It's not used for distance

it's used for measuring angles

like a sextant

You cant measure an angle that far away

Youre wrong

A theodolite /θiːˈɒdəlaɪt/ is a precision optical instrument for measuring angles between designated visible points in the horizontal and vertical planes.

No you're wrong, if it' sin your view you can measure the visual angle

Dunno why you're saying this

Just like i can measure angular size of the moon or sun

or an object out in the ocean

1 microrad is a typical resolution for the angle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqOQ_BCtqUI

@Hedwig - that stupid old video 😂 lmfao

who SAID it has to always be (EXACTLY) "eye-level" hmmmmmmmmmmmmm??

you mussa been tlkin to the wrong muhfkn flat earthers lmao!..

flat earthers say that

they dont mean EXACTLY eye-level ,

..as i just said, moments ago

it does not have to be Exactly "eye-level" ..but....just the fact that (when extreme elevation) that it (horizon) RISES UP AS MUCH AS IT DOES to begin with? Annilates a Ball earth (the size they tell us it is)

mkay

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Lets go up! up up and away ..

lets go further, shall we

Lets go to 317,000 feet, mkay?...

http://prntscr.com/n58a1q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7BhcufC-5Y&t=655s

@Hedwig take your Theodolite and pack it....

@✧Mike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)✧ how do you know where eye level is in that first image? is there any indication the camera is perfectly leveled?

b/c to make that measurement you need a theodolite

and there is none in that image, so try again

"eye-level" is an estimate, or an expression, commonly used

ok so this image isn't usable then

the one you posted

have i not said (explained) that yet, ..im pretty sure i have

--yes it is very usable

not if it's just an estimate

if

on

a

ball

you can't use that to prove level, if it's just and ESTIMATE

it WOULD NOT BE THERE

really?

.. 🍼 🤤

what if that camera is pointing down

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@Hedwig Well first there is the manufacturers own specs. You can get off their websites

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1018363910000048

Comparative study of accuracy in distance measurement using: Optical and digital levels

https://www.gamut.com/p/johnson-theodolite-400-ft-max-measuring-distance-5-arc-sec-accuracy-NjcyOTEy

https://www.gim-international.com/content/news/laser-digital-theodolite-with-600m-range

https://cn.sokkia.com/sites/default/files/sc_files/downloads/ldt520_operators_manual_-_1st_ed_0.pdf

That PDF is the owners manual for the 600M one

Notice it says 100lux ?

Sokkia LDT520 Laser Digital Theodolite
LDT520 Laser Digital Theodolite.jpg

Please feel free to request a demo!! Call for availability and pricing!

Click here for LDT520 Laser Digital Theodolite: NR_LDT520.pdf & LDT520.pdf

Sokkia's LDT520, a 5” digital theodolite equipped with a telescope with laser beam emission capability, boasts the world’s longest laser range, class-topping dust and water protection,and a continuous operation time over 2.5 times that of its predecessor. The LDT520 is designed for directional controls in tunnel excavation, precise marking and alignment in construction and engineering applications.

It has to be dark to see the reflection

600m meters on a cvery dark day

Daylight washes it out

I doubt it is even very accurate at 600 meters

Which means @Hedwig

🔼 Information on Theodolite specifications 🔼

Next we have what is called Spatial Disorientation & Visual Illusions which includes our visible horizon. Sometimes called the offing, this apparent line is where the sky meets the ground and is being perceived as an edge because of perspective due geographical slant and other optical phenomena.
Visible Horizon 1
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/462039366013812748/Screenshot_20180628-141432_Chrome.jpg
Offing
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/462038361121619968/Screenshot_20180628-141841_Chrome.jpg
Visible Horizon 2
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/462038361612222465/Screenshot_20180623-163225_Chrome-2.jpg
"In the offing"
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/462038360362582038/Screenshot_20180628-143947_Chrome.jpg

False visual reference illusion
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/462038359708008450/Screenshot_20180628-144334_Drive.jpg

Spatial orientation & Visual Illusions
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/462038361121619969/Screenshot_20180628-144237_Drive.jpg @Hedwig

Lastly, do you believe we live on a cylinder? If you think the horizon drops, it should be dropping in a 360 degree circle around you. 3 boats spread apart by say 20 miles should be at different heights.

<@561690854620659723> it says angle

Take a look. All the information is there.

I dont believe you are a surveyor or you would know this

Yes it is

Its max distance

Which is measuring angle

Lol

Show me specs for a Theodolite that is capable of measuring anything beyond 600 meters

Thats not accurate.

You are using the Theodolite incorrectly. Plus i dont believe you.

Im talking about measuring anything with a theodolite. Its 600 meters max.

After 600 meters the accuracy is not correct

Look it up

Its accuracy of the entire theodolite

Show me specs of a theodolite operatiing furthing than 600 meters

No its not just the laser

Thats what i said

Angles up to 600 meters

Show me specs of a theodolite operating beyond that.

Yes it will get you degrees up to 600 meters away

K show me the specs that confirm that

What paragraph exactly?

Thats not specs btw

Thats a wiki article

Visible points up to 600 meters.

The wiki article isnt giving exact specifications

Its not accurate after that

Listen. I know you're a fake. I know you are lying.

Bye

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@Citizen Z yo why do you seem so good at debating fr lml

It wasnt a debate

It was me showing someone the information and them denying it

Plus them lying about their occupation

And they were Posting garbage wikipedia pages that were not completely accurate.