so doing it manually

D.E.W.

XD

@Mathieus the Walking Witness why are u so nice all of a sudden u treated me like trah yesterday dont u remember?

*trash

he's muted 👍

🥴

hm

@Abe Lover u missed good discussion yeaterday

@Mathieus the Walking Witness there is a lot to say about videos from my pov. most videos are not as good evidence as you may think they are

the earth flat

Civil is by definition a useless word

i talked with daniel about hotspots yesterday he seems not to be an fe and even we dont agree

That was a confusing method

Daniel is concave

U guys are mean

ah concave is meant different here

i see

anyway i know not enough about optical phenomena to claim such things to be evidence for either side

i see

well

this makes less sense than fe

Nothing shud be dismissed

Or then its a belief

Daniel has his reasons and evidence

I dont have a bubble

The shape of the earth doesnt matter to me

👌

thasnks 🙂

Hmm

How many times would I get stabbed if I yelled "the earth is a globe" during a flat earth rally?

None

Im pretty sure they'd murder me

I have a question for flat earthers. If the Earth is truly a flat disk, why is it that I cannot see Mount Everest from my current home in the United Kingdom? Surely the height of the peak would be big enough to see from even 4,606 miles? Unless less miles are required seeing as the Earth is one flat disk and it would require a smaller amount of miles seeing as I am not going over a curved shape.

@Zyk̨͛͑y̭͢a̫k̯̰̂ its so far away you wouldnt see it.

Unless you got high up and had a infinite zoom lens and there was no atmosphere

No, I'm pretty sure I would. You can see the Great Wall of China from space right? The great wall doesn't amount to half of the height of Mount Everest.

We are limited by atmospheric density, if there were no particles in the air we could see as far as we want and the sun would never set. Providing we were high enough altitude

@Zyk̨͛͑y̭͢a̫k̯̰̂ that's looking back at the earth😂 you cant see forever with the human eye. The earth is huge. And the flat earth is even bigger

If you wanted to see something youd still have to get closer

Then how would you explain the shifting of the contenents?

And the great was isnt big it is long, and it cant really be seen from space because no images of earth from space are real

Alfred Wegner's theory on contenential drift?

How would you explain convection currents deep underneath the "Flat-Earth's" crust?

Does the Flat-Earth have a mantle? I doubt it would have a core seeing as cores are usually described in the context of spheres.

@mjones You say that it can't really been seen from space becuase no images of earth taken from space are actually real, but what about the moon's rotation around the Earth?

Also, if the sun really goes around the earth in order to create the "day and night effect" are you suggesting that the geocentric model of our solar system is correct?

I am quite curious to learn about this philosophy of yours...

earth is flat

Where is your empirical evidence on that scientific claim you have just created?

I can make a claim too. The earth is round,

the earth is furry

feet

it has textures

it has eyes

I know this because when ships sail across the sea, they go from bottom to top.

it has ears

it has ear wax, duh!

Suggesting that the Earth is round and since the Earth goes around the sun, The Earth must be rotating counter clock-wise to spin from East to West

the earth is flat

don't judge

@HMM SOFIA I really do not think you are in the correct place to be debating on the form of the planet.

why does form matter, we're all equal right?

You make claims with no empirical evidence, data, warrants, or reasoning.

I don't think you clearly understand my contention.

And quite frankly, I do not understand yours.

then why are you in discord instead of researching, huh?

Earth=round

shouldn't you be devoting ur time and space to research LOL

That is the same question I'd like to ask you. I have already done the research. You haven't I am only debating here because I have done the research.

earth=life

Your ignorance and lack of knowledge on this matter is quite exasperating.

well, im here to have fun. You're here wasting ur time on people who aren't gonna make a difference to your factual evidence. you should be going out and sharing it to the world, not discord

This is the debate channel. If you are here to have fun, go to the General category with the memes, music, and games.

hmm... you can't contradict my statement on why you can't seem to share your insights to the world and not discord

I wanna say something before I leave this broken server.
People like @Mathieus the Walking Witness should be kicked from the server, when we were having an actual conversation he decided to come and throw personal attacks. Now I’m gonna do the same thing, and I know your gonna lump me in with everyone else who believes (even though it’s fact) in the global earth.
You try to argue others by saying their using fallacies when your the hypocrite.
There must be something seriously wrong with you to think it’s cool or educated to join a conversation and start insulting people. Your nothing but a wrongly educated person with the biggest ego I have ever seen.
I also looked at your videos, and they are the same quality as a 4yr old with a iPhone 4.
You don’t explain anything all you do is show memes and a couple of photos.
Maybe learn how to write a scientific paper and how to explain your ideas, cause you can’t blame others for not understanding what your saying, since you present your information so poorly. You got mad at me for not understanding exactly what you were trying to show on your video, almost like you were scared of me criticizing it.
This doesn’t apply to everyone. People like paradox are actually capable of having an actual conversation normally without resulting to personal attacks.
But you and your buddies in the other hand act like children. Just because we have different views doesn’t mean your point of views are right and mine are wrong. If you want to debate someone don’t act like an absolute idiot, be respectful and listen.
Unlike you I chose to listen to the other side, and I threw no personal attacks at you when you were attacking me.
Your a child stuck in the body of a egotistical child.
Goodbye.
I know I will be kicked or muted for this, since this server is heavily flat earth based, but I guess that’s what you get for voicing your opinion.

No, I am refusing to acknowledge your attack on me. You should be focusing on my case.

@CrowdersDefense I could not agree with you more.

This is a debate channel. Not a channel to throw personal insults at one another. The first word of the title of this channel is called, "civil." Saying the Earth is "furry" is nor realistic or civil.

@HMM SOFIA And there is already enough factual evidence that the Earth is round.

its funny cuz like...we have such a short lifespan to live. I would devote my time to giving the world advice on the world, like you should. I know it is, LOL. You think I don't go to school? Im just here having a laugh. I don't get why you can't either

I understand your point, but I don't understand how the "civil debate" channel is the correct channel to do this in.

sometimes, discord isn't the place for that. if your so serious then why don't you do something that will change people's mind

I am not sure you understand what Discord is now. Discord __used__ to be an area where people could talk about gaming and memes. Now it's so much more. You can debate, video call, create communities like these, share pictures, and spread happiness. Discord is a place for this. You are getting too stuck in the past.

I get it but the people here are so into "flat earth" or whatever that its hilarious. All we have to do is respect their beliefs

Although they have quite seriously misguided beliefs, which I think we can both agree on, we should still debate this topic to the fullest extent in the name of science and research. Science is always changing and 95% of the time, laws are created by multiple scientists debating over a topic and majority rules.

Okay? So then why don’t u become one of those scientists that create these factual evidences instead of sharing it in a community that won’t listen?

Only thing you can do is respect it. Whether or not the earth is flat or not, we should be able to acknowledge that we’re all just humans. ANYTHING can be wrong.

Why don't you two join a nice verbal conversation instead? 👀

That's the thing. "one of those scientists" are the people who share it in a community. The community wont listen since they are ignorant and unwilling to accept the truth.

Yeah, a discord community that truthfully believes the earth is flat 😂

I don't understand your sarcasm?

I don’t understand why u can’t go outside in the world to explain ur beliefs where it can make *change* instead of here where no one is gonna listen

I literally had a talk about pizza in this community about the earth. No one is listening 😂

1. You still don't get it. This is a debate channel.
2. That's where you are wrong, it is not a belief, it is a fact.

and these facts are in accordance to the laws of physics.

Hmm... you don’t know that anything can be wrong right?

*do

Our whole life existence can be a lie. We don’t know. We don’t know. That’s what. We don’t know. If it’s factual evidence, why don’t flat earth people believe it? It’s a belief

It is not a belief, it is a fact. A fact that has been proven by gravity, force, apparent magnitude, contenential drift, and many more laws branching from the laws of physics. Are you saying that the laws of physics is false? Because that is a whole other debate category.

Never said it was false, dude. Pay attention to detail. Anything can be wrong. We’re only humans.

And please don't condescend me. I have been in speech and debate classes since the 7th grade.

I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about 🙂

Okay? Like I care 😂. Life is too short to explain roundness and flatness tbh with you

I could be here for years talking about the form of the earth and not everyone is gonna believe it. Like, religion for example

Exactly. Why am I even "debating" with you. We are on the same side lol

Not everyone is gonna believe you, it’s just the way it is

Lol

@mjones you haven't finished explaining the logic of the flat earth? What happened? Have you stopped defending the Flat Earth society?

Globie trolls debating each other? This is epic. 😂

If u argue, nothing is gonna change. All ur gonna do is stand by your point even more

I'd much rather prefer the term "Globie" than "Flattie" 😆

🤷🏻‍♀️that’s why I didn’t pick debate for primary school. Too much work for just a simple topic. Like you, debating on the form of the earth. There’s so many problems in our society today and I don’t have time for arguing on such a topic, that’s already have been proven

it doesn't matter if earth is globe or flat, what matters is the geopolitical situation which the cia is pushing

F*ck hong kong

China 😂

Debate is the most important way of making decisions whether it be for a society or even scientific laws.

Hong Kong is rightful chinese clay. The treaty with the british ended 2 decades ago

Without debate, we wouldn't have societies like this one. Without debate, slavery would've been socially acceptable around the world.

There’s still trafficking around the world 😂

the greek used to debate, they were the creators of it at its basest levels. they still had slaves so your argument is kinda trash

No matter how much we debate, there will always be that smidge of people who are gonna go against that

My name isn’t even Patricia did u know that or do u wanna debate about that too? 😂jk

Is it though? The Greeks had slaves, true, but their form of direct democracy inspired American colonists to create the representative democracy that they currently have. May I remind you, Lincoln Douglas debates were founded on the resolution on whether slaves should be classified as American citizens.

Instead of arguing, why don’t we help eachother, huh?

And according to history, Licoln stopped slavery in 1865

Exactly and there’s still people in slaves like today. Not as serious as the ones before but there are today

Look at China. They have children working in factories and those children don't even realize that they are slaves because they were raised in this communist environment and were not exposed to socialism and the media.

Exactly, so his argument isn’t that strong 😅

Bad word usage 😂

@Zyk̨͛͑y̭͢a̫k̯̰̂ Still your argument is invalid, a debate doesn't necessarily means that there will always be a positive outcome like the removal of slaves. It just lets us explore other ideas. Greek thought that it was very humane to keep slaves, today not so much.

Thanks for explain that

Cuz he’s “wrong” for once I guess

I’m just saying. Arguments won’t help us fix our problems. All we have to do is accept, move on, and learn how the world is, together

It still should be implemented because no one would be doing anything rn

I don’t see ur point

The other guy bashed on you 😂. Ugh... this is why I don’t choose debate as an elective

Okay... whatever you say. Even though we weren’t even talking about that topic

I don’t think u know that some guy made a whole entire paragraph on YOU

Imagine thinking that the Illuminati controls everything

You do know what that pyramid and eye are meant to represent, right?

If two people can have different interpretations of a symbol, it's pretty safe to say that you can't use that as evidence for anything.

scary money

lol

I don't think you would have evidence for a single thing you say if YouTube didn't exist...

faith is cringe

ok off to work

so uh

bye

@Riley if faith is cringe then your life is cringe cuz its all based on faith

So ur comparing money to a game 😂?

I’m jk. 😂

You do realize that money was invented before the game Monopoly was right?

🤦

I can’t take it I’m laughing to hard 😂, i don’t wanna be offensive but like... cmon

Its hard not to laugh, but if you do, you will only convince them of their dilusions further.

So... ur telling me that money is a game?

I have a question. Do you believe that density or electromagnetism is the reason why things fall down? @Mathieus the Walking Witness

This isn't related to the current topic. Im introducing a new one...seriously dude.

It's only a fallacy if I'm using it as an argument against your current position on the current topic...

I'm not. Nothing to do with money and slavery

Seriously

🤦

I'm asking you a question independent of anything that you are talking about at the moment.

Got it?

Just...just 🤦

I don’t see why u can’t answer it...

Simple. Just answer it

😂👌

Then turn it off 😂, woah... to easy

You didn't have any momentum to begin with...

That's a subjective opinion

Momentum? You compared money to a game 😂

And you're once again resorting to insults.

Cherry picking proofs, and nitpicking arguments when it benefits you.

I assume you're an adult. If I didn't know any better, I would've thought you were a 12 year old...

Also. Thanks, you answered my question by saying 'relative density'.

If things go down because they are more dense, why is the earth flat?

What about the other side of the plane that is the flat Earth? Do dense objects move up?

No, he’s in the politic mode 😂.

Drop a helium balloon and find out

🅱

Bob

That doesn't answer anything, though. Are you saying that there is a material denser than everything on the earth below it?

I think that the are the is flat earth you omniscient you how bing it come and do it FOREVER.

....what

english?

I belive that the british government planned 9/11 so that boris johnson steal my fuckin cat

WHAT

yea and u know whos in on it

That's a pretty good theory

Hmm...

**orbama**

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i mean, hey

u guys know bout the deep state?

<@&484511709009281037>

the deep state took my dad

I mean why else did he leave me when I was 6 for a pack of cigarettes?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/394942478874050573/632745302041821195/uLXsurVQ.jpeg

@Logrian the numbers on this don't make any sense...

130km is about 80 miles

If there is 8 feet of curvature per mile, that's 8 feet times 80 miles

Or 640 feet of curvature

nope

Where the heck did 1304 miles come from?

you gottah square it

Which number do I square?

The final answer?

1326.28 meters

metres, not miles, oof

So it's 1326 meters, not miles of curvature...

so its impossible to see, an yet we see it

This proves a flat plane

71% of the earths water, it flat and level

Confusing miles and meters is still a pretty darn big mistake

4,000 plus square miles an no curvature anywhere

Well that was them, not i

You still posted it without correcting it...

Just admit it's a mistake and move on. No harm no foul.

I did, derp

An then I added more evidence

its flat

Fill one balloon with hydrogen and one balloon with helium. Make sure both balloons are the same volume. Then, tie each balloon to the end of a balance, which balloon goes up? which ballon goes down?

If both ballons are of the same temperature, then the helium ballon will go down

Why? because Helium is heavier than Hydrogen.

Balloons going up proves that gravity is working just as we think it does.

Lololol. Really? Ummm. Noooo

!mute @TheCreativeTree

@SunRazor damn that's clever

Why do some flat earthers underestimate the sheer scale of Earth?

Yes I feel the same way.

The fact that you can see the sun set at different times if you go higher proves the Earth has curvature.

If earth had such a sharp curve we would live in an incredibly small world.

exactly

Like with Logs post.

The Earth is so big you wouldn't notice the curve.

Plus... how would certain parts of the world have the sun and others not if we were flat?

And with the poles being light most of the year that proves a globe.

cus muh sun rotates around the earth duuhh

The Earth rotates on an axis so the North pole gets a lot more sun.

God created this universe to be complex and interesting, and fellow Christians destroy his work by reducing it to such simplicity.

also, different lengths of day depending on where the Earth is on its axis

Yeah